How do people get jobs?

women don't program or drive forklifts user…

weird, I don't have this problem. If you are being honest about your qualifications but are not getting called back it's probably because the people you want to hire you are checking your internet history and background and finding things they don't like. Maybe your references or shit or someone you have as a reference is fucking you over. If you are American maybe it's cause king nigger fucked up the economy so bad and not everyone has recovered yet. It could be a lot of things but to go straight to "it's bulshit I want socialism" is pretty fucking retarded.

The job market is not great now. That's just how it is. I graduated with a computer science degree last December. I'm still struggling to find a job with it. And I did a lot of extra curricular shit, with extra programming experience working for the university.

Who you know helps way more than what you know. That will never change.

the "shortage of talent" in IT is complete bullshit designed to push tech wages even lower

I have met lots of women who do those things, user. Though the forklift driving women were terrible drivers. And the programmers were also bad programmers. Uhh…anyways…

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Dubs of dispair, man. Same for me, but I got my school degree from a technical school with focus on economics and couldn't get an apprenticeship in sales for shit. Is it nepotism? Just bad luck? Too autistic? Hell if I know. Out of despair I'm joining the college meme. See you in hell, fucker.

This isn't to say I haven't had interviews. I have had several interviews over the months. I just can't make it past that point. They always hire someone with much more experience.

do you have facial tattoos, do you interview terribly, or do you not have an actual college degree?

I'm going to get a college degree in physics in December. Right now I only have an associates with a 3.9 GPA. I interview fine, and practice for hours before one.

I don't wear tattoos, they hurt.

How did obama damage the economy? Republicans shit things up every time they get into office. Trump might be the only exception but he just started.

Just go to a temp agency retard

Why physics instead of EE?

Did that. It didn't work.

Because I don't want to be an engineer?

If you cant find ANY job, yiu really arent looking. And engineering is 3x more useful

Join the military

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Lie about your qualifications.
Get temporary work to fill in for people who are on holiday or off sick
Use this to further lie about your work experience.
Get a high paying job.

My friend did this and hes getting 5 figures now.
If your not lying, then your going to look shit compared to people who are lying.

I cant speak from experience. I work for myself Inb4 my boss is a fag. So when I applied for my job I already knew I would get it.

So do you call it Physic?

ScienceTechnologyEngineeringMathematics

Ah I thought you dropped the S from physics.

Like how Americans drop the S from maths. So they study mathematic (singular) not mathematics (plural).

And how is he going to anticipate who's off sick on on holiday?

Because lazy retards are always faking sick on holidays. Do you neets really noy know whats going on outside your bedrooms

There are agencies who provide temporary staff to companies who dont want to take on a full time employee with all the baggage that goes with that, just to fill in for someone who is ill or on holiday.

Companies call the agency when they need temporary staff, and the agency calls all the people on their books who they think will fill the position.

In this situation if you are flexible and reliable the agency will pick you over someone more qualified. Because all they really want is for you to turn up so they get their commission. Which is paid by the company on top of your wages.

Sometimes my friend would get a call on Sunday saying he was needed at a certain place at 7am on Monday morning.
So they really loved him.

Always blows my mind that people in the US (assuming OP is in the US) complain about not being able to find a job at all. You may not be able to find a job you LIKE, but places like Amazon will literally hire anyone who passes a drug test; they don't even interview (they'll just fire you later on if you perform poorly). Wal-Mart is similar (and any fast food or chain retailer). There are only two possible reasons you can't be hired by one of these companies. First is that you're a total imbecile and fail a drug test that you know is coming, or second is that none of them are around you (if so you live in the middle of fucking nowhere and need to move).

We are primarily a service based economy and we outsourced all the manufacturing jobs to chinkland. That's why they have you do this online application bullshit with 30 minute long fucking surveys. They streamline the process because they don't wanna deal with us. Its almost like were being fucking exploited or something.

Looked at Amazon's site, the most deadass simple job I could find in my area was going to retards houses to set up their shit, and that at minimum requires two years of experience and a driver's license, with a bachelor's degree preferred

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I think it was technology, specifically
But yes

well, op could be horribly fat or 13 yrs old, or a trap, a nazi or dressed in a fox suit.

That's because the Amazon job site sucks and is mostly meant for jobs like you described that require experience or specific training. Basic entry-level work is best to do in person. You can just walk into an Amazon "fulfillment center" and ask to apply and they'll set you up.

htt ps://blog.taxjar.co m/amazon-warehouse-locations/

Temp jobs can suck dick, but they're fun if you want it to be. Great networking, too.
Aren't there outsourcing sites for programming and the like? You're competing with loos for wages, but if you're not doing shit anyway you'll get some scratch and build the portfolio.

The thing is user I worked manual labor AND technical work before. I always got fired though because of drama or because the company lost funding/goverenment contracts and started laying people off.

I'd happily work hard labor but they don't want me either. I've been a sales associate, a forklift operator, a loader, a designer, and a general laborer all in one job before for $8.50/hr. I think I've proven how hard I can work, and my references allegedly should be reflecting this as well.

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Are you addressing the firings up front? If so, how? You have to walk a fine line as employees are dime a dozen and a lot of them are out to fuck you to get on fedbux. The diversity (depending on how it's presented) on your resume doesn't serve as proof of anything but lack of willingness to commit.
Looking at resumes is about as cynical as a person gets. Have you had someone who hires pick it to death?

you know what they say: if everywhere you go has lots of drama, the cause can be found in the mirror

You don't know if it's really his fault though. I mean, there are tons of people out there who are willing to start drama. Human beings in general are just shitty people. Look at all the drama that cops get into. Even something as simple as a traffic stop could end up being look at all the drama that cops get into. Even something as simple as a traffic stop could end up being a fight to the death.

Woops, typo

if you can't work around drama in the workplace, you're not going on my payroll. idgaf if the boss's niece Nancy from accounting got left with Jamal's kid and decided to take it out on you. you played the corporate game like a newb. all those cliches about "business is business" didn't just come from some rorshach wet fart on the book of cliche.

ehhhhhhh

So, is the best way around drama to just pretend it doesn't exist? To change the subject or leave the conversation whenever it steers in that direction?

the only time you poke your head out is when it benefits you. (e.g. creating a positive image)
if a higher up or someone with a ton of social capital in the company needs to vent, act the way that'll get you social capital with them. different people respect different approaches. generally; women=sympathy, men=reserved and respectful honesty.
social skill is just as important as the actual work.

that's one on one. if it's a gaggle of bitches from HR, do what you said. find it's best to just be charming and quiet. Just a quick flirty "Oooh" look and walk away. bitch pods should be top priority for gaining capital with, but never get involved.

easy. make friends. ask your dad if he has any friends.

if you could do HTML5 and Java, just make android game or apps. make a sweet website, offer online custom HTML5 site or android apps service, make a facebook page and buy $150 ads for a start up or something
try to get social connection since you really need it if you want to work as custom software developer

According to you people don't deserve a roof over their head if they don't make people feel good about themselves or aren't socially adept?

deserve's got nothing to do with it

Being a normalfag is required in order to prosper in a world filled iwth normalfags. Why do you think so many NEETs are on the bux?

It isn't necessarily because they're lazy or losers, it's because they aren't animals that want to play the social game (or aren't good at it) or play hierarchy politics.

Only mention things relevant to the job on the resume, if they ask about other skills, you can mention them.
No employer looking for a network programmer is gonna care if you can drive a forklift, in fact they assume you're padding a shitty resumé and trash it.

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if you're jobless, it's no wonder. all work comes down to: do shit, profit. some work involves working w/people. do social shit, profit. amazing, huh?
that post was 101 and could help your sperg ass in other areas if you'd quit feeling like the world owes you because you have a turd hanging from your ass and don't want to wipe.
you already get special treatment just being human. your ass should get maimed and left behind so the rest of the herd could prosper.

or b) be nigh irreplaceable in your skillset. bitch to establish that rep, though.

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Good advice, but in this case I think OP means Forklift the data migration tool.

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Employers hire based on nepotism because hiring a candidate who current employees or friends are willing to vouch for is a lot less risky than hiring somebody off the street who might be a complete fuckup. Depending on the job, all it takes is one toxic, lazy or incompetent hire to torpedo an entire team. If I hire someone who is a somewhat known quantity, I know they're probably going to fit in with the culture of the company.

And yeah, it sucks when you don't get hired because an employer doesn't want to take a chance on an unknown, but look at it from the employer's perspective. And be sure to ask friends, former co-workers, etc. to put in a word for you where they work. The best jobs don't even get advertised–they get filled because someone knows a quality candidate who they can count on and they seek that person out to fill a need.

everything's got upsides and downs syndrome. pretending to be a normalfag every now and again isn't so bad. now i get to sit in my house hanging with pets and fap/work when i want.

Don't have those

That never turned up anything.

Nepotism is evil and fucks over millions of people.

So does prostate cancer and Comcast. If you ran a company, you bet your ass your position would change.

You didn't graduate college, so they don't want you. You wouldn't fit in, and you'd get angry once you realized that they weren't going to promote you past the lowest type level of employment at a successful company. You should only seek out temporary employment until you graduate with a four year degree.
Until then, join as many political organizations as you can, and maybe even think about becoming a Free Mason.

jobs are for sell outs

THEY CANT FUCKIN GIE US JOBS IVE BEEN TRYing for the last five years at least to get a job and the market is trash obama ruined everything. never ever let so called ecomonists regulate what they dont understand again

My sister does this, but she just called them and setup a date to come in to do "orientation." Lots of nigs so you know it's easy to get in.

It's shipping/packaging though so you won't be getting any job experience with that.

Amazon would rather have people with college degrees running housecalls for them, because most thieves and violent criminals won't be bale to make it through four years of higher education.

Not him but I run a company and I don't hire via nepotism..

are you a nigger or have an accent? maybe that's the reason they don't want to hire you

In my area I applied for a job at Safeway and got the job within two days. Its called craiglist, nigga. You want a job? Its right fucking there.

Yeah craigslist doesn't work for me, sorry. Tried it many times in every category. Mostly scams there.

forbes.com/sites/lizryan/2015/11/26/how-to-use-pain-letters-in-your-job-search/#35072d697b44

Use this article and everything it links out to.

Advice you'll get from most anons and normalfags will be from smug assholes who lucked out with a job telling you shit that won't work.

Todya my brother called one of those job agencies for a dishwasher job. They fucking asked him

"How much experience do you have in dishwashing".

So its fucking real easy or hard sometimes a job like cleaning can be hell to get and jobs like in banks or selling insurance can be easier to apply to.

Look at the narional debt over time and where the money went. Also look up the deals Obama made with other countries to outsource jobs. When he left the presidency and the fucking country one of the last things he did was approve giving money to foreon organizations

Are you actually employable? Certifications are nothing without RELEVANT experience, which you don't mention - just a good job history. Do you have at least five years with your last employer? If not, you are lying to yourself about having a good job history.

People have this misconceptions that because there is a job opening, means that it must be filled sooner or later - it doesn't. Let me tell you about an employer strategy I call the "test job".

At my company we've had some openings listed for /years/. It's there in case someone they really want to hire happens to apply. In my industry (aerospace) this is particularly common with engineers. Engineer is a really critical position, we can't use people we don't trust well. We get an intern, or someone about to graduate or just graduated applying for an engineering job. Now, we ALWAYS need engineers, we probably have a half dozen openings right now. But, because of the expensive nature of our work, we'd rather turn work away than just hire any old schmuck to design an airplane exhaust that might ruin our very good reputation. We tell them that we don't have any engineering positions for them, but they get hired as something like "machine operator", "tack welder", "furnace operator", "tooling clerk". While they are doing this relatively menial task, they are tested and then fast-tracked or side-tracked depending on whether they are found to be engineer material or not. By seeing if these people can cope in an actual industrial environment and do at least a tiny bit of actual work, we have some idea if they are right for the job they really applied for. It's a smart practice, because not everyone is engineer material just because they managed to get through a four year or even masters degree in the subject. Colleges don't really DO engineering work, they just explain the information needed to start LEARNING engineering work. I suspect this is true of other fields, IT especially.

Like I mentioned, companies have learned that it's better to be exclusive and turn work away than to try to please everyone and do nothing well. Likewise, they realized it's better to require overtime of the good people you have than to hire crappy people to do a half-assed job, even at a lower rate. To get decent white collar jobs during a mediocre economy you pretty much have to be STELLAR - especially with just schooling and no relevant experience. Send an employer your college transcript if you have better than a 3.0 GPA, with no important gen-eds below 2.0 and NOTHING in-major below 3.0. If it's not better than 3.0 GPA you're probably in for a hard time. Expect to have to start sweeping floors and making coffee, delivering mail and so on, if you want to work your way up. If your overall GPA was below 2.5, consider giving up on your dream and get a job that just requires any degree like a fast-food, retail, or office supervisor/manager job. Better yet, take up a trade, the standards are lower and they pay okay. I made over 60K last year as a machinist with 6 years experience and a two year degree. I'm above average intelligence, but by no means gifted. I'm not tall, strong, or even particularly dexterous. I just tried hard, was fastidious, attentive, careful, showed up every day on time, and rarely said no to OT. Seriously- if you can't even do college well, you need to re-evaluate your potential. Making good money with skills like the IT skills you mentioned (or in engineering) takes a lot of skull sweat and talent, it takes years to get to that skill level.

You may wonder "if the opening isn't filled, what happens with the tasks this opening represents?" Someone does them in their spare time. It's a "test job", not a real position. It's something easy that takes less than 8 hours a day. It's there mainly to serve a role in the corporate ladder, not actually produce revenue. New hires are tested in a lot of ways to see if they:

1 - are retarded, stupid, slow, etc
2 - are willing to work for less than competitive wages
3 - get the work done in the time /required/ as opposed to the time /allotted/
4 - come to work most of the time
5 - come to work on time
6 - come to work sober
7 - lied on their resume
8 - have any interpersonal problems

If you don't have friends, maybe it's your lack of social skills that keeps you from getting offers, since you say you get interviews. If you can't express yourself and communicate, you will not succeed in any field. Especially in software or IT where literally hundreds of people can be working on the same project and need to be on the same page. If you think social skills don't matter there, you are too stupid to mop floors.

Very true, my father owns a lube firm that services the largest drag lines in the north american mining industry. From what I've heard this is a regular practice for not only him but also the large mining companies. I have started implementing something similar in the kitchen I have started to manage after being promoted. I also recommend not trying overly hard, its a turnoff.

You can help make bombs for the military-industrial complex. Find a women- or minority- owned small business that subs for a large contractor.

I feel your pain, OP.

Depending on where you live, you won't find a job for a very, very, very long time.

See, you are in the service sector. The services sector of the economy works well only when the industry sector of the economy works well. The industry sector of the economy only works well if mining and agriculture are working well.

If industry, mining and agriculture are decadent around you, they won't have money for paying you to make a nice website to them.

Most of those businesses might be hanging on a thread.

Think about that and move ass.

t. lonelyfag.
get out more and your company will be better for it

We're doing fine. I'm not a rabid hierarchal monkey like you.

your triggered outburst aside, i'm glad to hear. hiring people who have pre-established ties of responsibilities to me outside the j.o.b. (which is rare for people to not move on from) works better for me and a lot of others though.
worth a thought next time you expand

Well these two posts have convinced me to suicide. Thanks for the confirmation that life is too hard if you are not Chad to possibly succeed.

when you commit suicide can you say something cool on a livestream?

nice edge

I don't know.
I'm 30 years old, and I can't get a job.
I have an AA and BA and couldn't get a job at Baskin Robbins.
The owners was just like "why don't you just get a career in your degree?"

According to & you just suck user

Make a good resume. Find relevant companies for your line of work (I used engineerjobs.com for myself, as an example). Shotgun out applications to any and all jobs you qualify well for. You will get a handful of telephone interviews at the very least. I went through almost half a dozen on site interviews before I got my job. Just keep trying and don't give up. Ignore the faggots who say it's about who you know, just make sure you are decently qualified. Finding a job is a full time job.

Both you and the nepotism faggots are wrong. The solution is to go into companies directly or do what user in said.

Well I got a fucking job so I'm not wrong.

YOU did. Just because it worked for you, doesn't mean it does for everyone else. I'm not trying to attack you, I'm just saying you got lucky. Most people get fucked when it comes to online apps and they don't even yield interviews even if you're qualified.

I have social anxiety and the job I got has a strong focus in working with customers. I don't think it was lucky.

Payrate? Location?

62000 salaried

i've had like 40 jobs, and now run my own company. all were due to charisma or nepotism at about a 50/50 rate.
you're right about online shit though. unless it's a farm like the post office or something you will get lost. a lot of times they just post that shit for legal reasons. speaking of, PO is a gig that pays pretty well.

man that makes me feel bad…

What if I don't have charisma or I don't' have friends/none of my friends can set me up?

Sell your body.

post office pays ok but the benefits are really good, you work with some retarded motherfuckers tho, that aspect can be emotionally draining

Man you guys are all depressing as fuck man.

Temp agency gave me both. Hearing a lot of shit about only diversity hiring now though, but it's worth a shot. Think about your app/forms and lie accordingly.

Can't speak for other areas, but if you get CCA it doesn't matter too much. It can be kinda fun once you sort and get in the LLV/FFV (pray for LLV).

Don't give up. Check local classifieds and shit. Make your resume in latex

I actually did that lol. No one seems to give a shit.

I personally think it's nice. And it looks professional.

>you guys are all depressing as fuck

looking sucks a dick, but it's like the shit you hear in an hero threads. when you stop giving a fuck, you're finally free. hippies are faggot retards, but when you just let go, the shit you do find will be according to a no bs version of yourself.

Go smoke your Combie, faggot

nah im a mechanic, i maintain the fleet, the post office honestly seems to promote the most incompetent nigger mother fuckers tho, especially to supervisor spots, but because im in a skilled trade almost everyone i work with is white, i wouldnt be able to work there otherwise,

nice, you guys were always pretty chill. i didn't have any diversity promotions when i was there. the minorities that were carriers were pretty cool, though. it reminded me of working in a hospital or something where people have a fucked up sense of humor. postmaster used to say nigger and tell us stories about being blackout drunk.
the way it's set up, if you're in a lib state, i'd stay the fuck away though.

looked that up and it was a van. i can't smoke vans

Your first problem is you're an idiot. A meritocracy is a system in which people are rewarded based on -wait for it- merit, meaning whoever is most deserving, the exact opposite of socialism.

Based on your attitude and choice of image (I'm like 90% certain you've posted this thread before with gore and shit, this is why you can't get hired, you're the kind of creepy fucker that saves pictures of girls with tarantulas in their mouths) I'd say your problem is you're a douche.

I'm your stereotypical neet, or that is to say I was. I lived in complete and total seclusion, I was a complete recluse. I didn't have friends, I didn't put myself out there. All I did was make myself available when someone needed help. Someone asks me to clean the place up a bit, help them paint an apartment, move some stuff, watch their dogs, whatever, I say sure, expect nothing in return. Just being reliable got me job offers. I'm basically socially retarded, I speak as little as possible to anyone, ever.

There was even a point where I mentioned to my mother "Why didn't you ever help me get that first job?"

All it takes is a good attitude, a pleasant smile, a healthy dose of selflessness and making yourself available.

It really does look nice dude, but i don't think it really impresses anyone besides me

Also protip, get an engineering degree. All of the classmates I knew and my roommates got jobs/internships, despite being fucking white males.

I disagree. If I were a hiring manager, seeing the extra effort put in to make it look nice shows that you care and are more willing to go the extra bit, which makes you look like a more reliable person to hire.

Business owners don't want to hire over educated or overqualified people because they will likely move on as soon as something better comes up. Insecurity.

I just thought it looked cool. Hell of a stretch there pal.

Go be a woman somewhere else

When is it a good time to get an internship, first year?

Yeah I thought that too dude but I've talked to hiring managers (a miracle when I can pull it off) and they don't seem to give a shit. I do my best on interviews but they don't budge. It makes me want to die.

But if something better was going to come up it would have happened since you can only get jobs by being friends with people. It's high school forever.

You won't even get an internship if you don't have connections. Ignore him.

I'm not the best to ask for it. Second year usually is the sweet spot, because freshmen are not as desired, but I didn't end up getting an internship until junior year, and that one WAS entirely luck because I never went to the career fair.

LOL I went to every career fair and because I don't have adept social skills it didn't do shit.

Also my internship was a school wide email sent out from an alumni, and apparently the guy I sent my resume to liked it enough to take me. So no connections whatsoever were involved in that either.

Maybe not connections but definitely luck

The only way to get connections is through fucking

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I have an engineering fair coming up next month. But I've never been to one so I don't know what to do there except "Virgin walk" around the place

Get fucking mate

Sounds about what I did the few times I later went to my career fairs. I just looked up the list of companies coming, printed out a resume for each that I would be interested in working at, did a 5 minute research of each company, and gave each one a copy of my resume and was able to somewhat understand what they were about.

Never helped though. The place I work at was never even at my school once. I just skipped the last career fair I had and applied to companies on my own time.

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NOT REALLY THOUGH HAHAHAHAHAHAQha

fuck off

Just be yourself.

Get a job, Satan.

I can't.

just do it

They won't let me.

I believe in you. If I could, you can. I'm the person who lives in his room and doesn't go out in public. You can do it.

If you an hero - they win.

god…dammit. fine

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I do it for free it

If you are less than 28, just join the military. They pay 1,600$ a month and if you aren't a drooling autist and you get 90+ on the asvap you can get a literal deskjob. They cloth you, feed you, and house you while still paying you 1600 a month. If you have any minor health issues just lie about it.
call them, they will literally come get you
call them, they will help you lose weight

Some anons want independence or they wouldn't be looking for a Job, joining the military is like living with your mother still.

This isn't the worst advice ever. But only if you really can score that high on the ASVAB. You DO NOT want any kind of combat role if you're a neet faggot.

It's better than living with your actual mother forever.

hurrr durrr whats an applicashun?

fuck this i'm gonna buy a gun. how the hell am is supposed to even fee dmyself?

You're stupid.

How many feet of NSA dick do you suck every day?
How many litres of NSA cum do you swallow like a good little boy?

get a job, join the army, go to school, collect disability as you become transgendered, or go ghost
that's really all of your options right there