Backup plans for western civilization and it's progeny

Its really a joke I'm starting too see of Musk getting huge payments from the US government for all these "private" science projects.

1. There is no solar panel in existence which is able too produce as much energy as it takes too build it. Tesla.
2. The space shuttle did everything SpaceX can't even accomplish successfully yet and it started in 1981 and SpaceX has spent more taxpayer money already than it took for the Space Shuttle.
3. The hyperloop would be more funny if I didn't hate pop-science culture so much already. It can't work, there is no material that will allow its safe operation.

Its really shameful because even during the Apollo missions NASA almost 100% white then NASA were planning permanent self-sufficient moonbases that could get their personal back too Terra much more easier than the death sentence Mars would make if there was an actual problem.

The Jews clipped our wings and created the (((International))) Space Station instead.

Old NASA managed to do all that just because they had remnants of nazi scientists, these days they outsource most of their work to other companies, and it all came down to the same thing: making money. Elon musk is a top tier troll, a dead giveaway was his appearance on the simpsons, his car being "ecofriendly" and his trust in solar panels. He's a business man selling hype the same way indie devs sell video games.

This. All advanced rocket technology was developed by germans. All the original innovators are dead and NASA is now a cargo-cult

Artificial Island

He's a fucking kike, you jerk.

Kill yourself, defeatist.

Yes the National Socialists working for NASA were just continuing their mission. My father worked there at the time and met Wernher von Braun Braun believed Hitler was still alive, who knows, NASA was also almost 100% white and became something strange, everyone was working towards the mission, nobody cared about anything but doing their small part correct for the mission and everything was thought out, of what could go wrong and many things did go wrong but there was enough perseverance and shall I say European excellence too overcome nature itself and accomplish the moonshot.

SAGE + FILTER ALL DEFEATISM THREADS, WE NEED TO RECLAIM OUR ANCESTRAL HOMELAND NOT RUN AWAY LIKE RATS

Been working on this problem for years.

The upshot is this: it is far, far, far easier to fight for our right to exist in our our own lands, than it is to establish new lands.

Even the simplest attempt to geoscape some new colony will probably take CENTURIES (if not longer) to establish, given technology that we don't even have available to us yet.

There is really only one option: stay and fight.
Our backs up against the corner, and there's nowhere left to escape to.
Either we fight, and win, or we die out.

sorry lad but that 3rd picture is actually fake.

Antarctica is a good idea but a lot further in the future because it needs to get much warmer permanent human settlement could be possible.

As for the present, a much better option is for White Nationalists to reach some sort of an agreement with the Russian government to set up enclaves in the Russian Far East for whites escaping the shit show in the West.

Oblasts for specific westerners with nobody else allowed? Like a white american Oblast, British Oblast, French Oblast, Germany Oblast, ect….?

Well I wasn't really thinking of specific oblasts for specific nationalities/ethnicities but maybe that could be done once there are enough people willing to migrate. The first order of business however should be for the initial batches of western refugees to try an create a self-sustaining enclave which could create enough of a resource/monetary surplus to establish and develop other enclaves/colonies.

All of these anons who say:
clearly didn't read OPs post.

Fighting for what is ours is the number one priority. However, it would be idiotic to not have a backup plan in case that doesn't work out.

If Argentina goes tits up, it might be possible to carve out a piece of Patagonia. Or if Russia goes tits up, maybe a piece of the north coast or Siberia. Preferably places with as little natives as possible.

However, a brand new pan-white nation is only a temporary solution in a situation where Europe and the Anglosphere is lost. The globalist powers would start attacking it rather quickly. If not with military force then at least with economic sanctions and propaganda.

The only permanent solution to the backup plan is colonization another planet. A Martian base could be nuked if they're desperate enough. "The global community will not share Mars with a fascist nation."

Sending a generation ship to another solar system is not viable since it would take hundreds of years and during those hundreds of years the technology on Earth would advance to the point where they could send an autonomous ship after us at such a faster speed that it would catch the generation ship before it would reach it's destination. Which brings me to warp drives.

'Warp Drives!

Warp drives are not just science fiction, but theoretically they are possible. Or at least currently there is no evidence suggesting that they aren't. Watch vid related. It's a compilation of several clips explaining the idea behind the concept.

Requirements to starting a colony in another solar system/galaxy using a warp drive.
1: Minimun of 4 people. Two straight couples. Children will naturally not be attracted to their siblings even if they're not genetically related. Let's say both couples have 5 children. Or fuck it let's say 10. Child mortality might be quite higher on another planet than in a 1st world country on Earth. The children of the two families then make more children, but not the traditional way. Test tube babies cloned from a big data bank of dna from white people.

2: Big data bank of dna from white people. As dna databanks are getting more common, I think it might be possible to purchase some in the future, for a large sum of money of course. Most people who have given their dna to somekind of corporation (23andMe, ancestry.com etc..) are from white western countries so they would contain plenty of white dna. A dna databank from Nigeria would be of no interest. An automated script could then easily filter out any genomes that belong to nonwhite people leaving you with a pure white dna database.

3: Big dna database of animals and plants. First priority would be to acquire dna from common livestock, crops and wood. After that it should be continuously expanded until the day you leave Earth. In our current year it is already possible to turn data into a dna molecule. Artificial wombs would be also required, at least for the first few generations of livestock. How to create plant seeds out of data, I don't know, but I'm sure we'll figure it out.

Terraforming would only focus on creating fertile soil and releasing flora and fauna in the environment. Changing oxygen levels (for example by dumping algae in the oceans) would take too much time and during that time you could just warp to enough solar systems that you find a planet that's just right.

Also interesting side note that a lot of people who focus on interstellar colonization probably haven't thought of. We would go back to middle ages. Or more specifically it would be a mix of high tech stuff and the middle ages. There's only a limited amount of stuff you can bring with you, so if you need to keep expanding the colony and later the nation you need building materials. If you're on an uninhabited planet there isn't much else around except rock, then masonry will be a very important skill for the astronauts to master before leaving earth. Later stuff like wood will be used, but it would take years to grow. Or maybe we will develop some fast growing GMO wood before that.

I think I left out one piece of the puzzle.

4: A big databank of all available human knowledge.
We have advanced this far only because we have been able to stand on the shoulders of giants. We would need to bring all of this knowledge with us.

Antarctica should stop being a frozen wasteland once the poles swap.

Russia had significant ethnic German enclaves set up in the past, and during WW2 they welcomed the Germans.

Didn't the Russians slaughter them?

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Stop trying to push that, if we could colonised that uninhabitable frozen rock we would have by now, there's a reason why the only humans living there are scientists in tiny bunkers who rely on importing all their resources just to live.

Good luck going to the antarctic perimeter without getting hunted down. They want you goyim inside.

Many got axed during/after ww2 after being suspected of being fifth columnists, luckier ones got resettled to Kazakhstan/Siberia and the luckiest were left alone. They still exist as a minority of an earlier minority.

Flat Earth bullshit is not welcome on Holla Forums.

I'm sorry you like your cartoon ball better.

Move to Russia but not anywhere near Moscow.

I got a good place, Sakhalin; a humongous Russian island bordering the Pacific just north of Japan; it's underpopulated and the southern half (which was part of Japan for a few decades in the early part of the 20th century until the end of World War II) has a very similar climate to northern New England… a little more hospitable than Antarctica at least.

Running away is a pussy option.

The only plan we need is to convince truck drivers, barge captains and locomotive engineers to stop going to work for a week. Maybe two.

Then its Prison Rules. Doesnt matter who you are friends with, you stick with your own.

Yeah I think it could certainly be one of the options. However, it'd be a sensitive matter because of the disputed nature of the territory.

If you can't win America, you're not going to live in mars or some magical island you man child video game delusional faggot

FUCK OFF KIKE. The war will be won and the ovens will be ready for you.

Also, keep in mind the fact that arable land is ridiculously cheap in the russian far east in general so it'd be a lot more financially viable for people to establish themselves there

Let's be honest for a second here user.

If the Kikes win and kill whitey then they're going to to be doing nothing but ruling the ashes of civilization. I highly doubt that they'll be doing much advancing after civilization collapses.

Not to mention that Russia seems to be the only powerful nation that's actively resisting Globalism.

Even if Putin isn't the savior of the white race or a white nationalist I don't think that he wants it dead. Not to mention the propaganda victory against the west if westerners start fleeing to Russia.

I get the casing net but a scope for a scope and 3 tactical lights?

What is that drum magazine btw?

This. Don't abandon everything and colonize elsewhere. Retake what is yours.

Mars is bullshit, we're safer around feral niggers and Jews then on Mars.

Antarctica, unnecessarily scarse and harsh of a landscape.

Sea stedding… I don't know much about that but I'm fairly certain we'd be dependant on land settlements.

I've given this subject thought and think our best bet is to settle the wilderness of northern canada, the namely the northwest territories or nunavet region, very sparsely populated. Demographically we'd be safe for some time until the southern horde smells our prosperity and begins coming northwards.

But by then we can assume the US will be a Brazilian-esque shadow of its former self and will not have the might or logistic capability of reaching us with an effective invasion. Canada will just remain as cucked as ever . And of course we should make it our absolute priority to secede.

If all else fails that's where we hold our last stand. The eastern half of the NW territories are extremely mountainous and very defendable.

also we got nearly all-white Iceland nearby as a bro

I think there's a rather large island called Greenland in-between Canada and Iceland. And, strictly speaking, the Northwest Territories is a little less than half the size that it used to be, with the eastern half becoming Nunavit in 1999.

Touché, but considering it will be the only other near-exclusively white country on the planet it's a good thing to have them fairly close.

We can settle both Nunavut and the NW territories. We only need bodies settled and reproducing in that geographic area; with a zero tolerance for multiculturalism (besides the Eskimos well just segregate ourselves from them)

Why not just Iceland?

It's already white.

Because it's already settled, a check in the box. I'd rather have 2 homelands than 1.

Plus if we eventually have ~5 million whites wanting to emigrate they won't fit in Iceland.

The only viable place to run to left is Russia. Because they have nukes to provide a MAD cover. No where else is safe. No where else would be allowed.

While the Flat Earth idea is obviously bullshit, it brings up the point that a huge amount of the pacific ocean is not flown over. From what I can look up of maritime shipping, the most southern route is Panama Canal straight to New Zealand. There is a huge area where maps could easily be false.

There is an island off India; slightly larger than Manhattan where 100 stone age niggers live.
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I'm also finding people a lot more accepting to the truth about internationalist government run white genocide; people I've been ignore by previously.
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I read an interesting idea the other day that 'the easiest way to extend the life of an animal is to increase the age at which it breeds'. This genocide is putting selective pressure on us, while affirmitive action is taking pressure off niggers.

Always remember you are the pinnacle of evolution, the greatest predator ever created.

tl;dr pointless shit with some optimism

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Yes… by whites. That makes it easier, much easier. And it's a small population, making it easier to gain a political following.

Iceland as a landmass is almost the size of Great Britain.

It's cold, so no niggers.
It's modern, so no being primitive faggotry.
It has land, which may be protected, but with enough political support, could probably used to build natural lodging/housing.

Isn't there a plant chamber with all the known plants on the planet somewhere in scandanavia.
Also what about terraforming? Is that shit possible yet on Mars.
Could we perhaps recluse ourselves to Mars and breed a super race of whites with advanced tech and reclaim our homelands and purge the shitskins while also settling other parts of the earth and claim them for ourselves while also making our own galactic empire and making the stars our own

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Yeah, and that coupled with the fact that the russian far east and Siberia have vast untapped natural resources and very cheap prices for agricultural land make Russia the number one place to head to.

Also, the initial settlements could perhaps be based on the Orania model, where there is a private company that actually owns the town/colony and you have to buy shares of that company to be eligible allotted plots/houses in the colony. This makes the project more financially viable and makes sure that people who come there to settle will be serious. Of course, the first colony/colonies should be geared to make profits to enable expansion of the colony as well as subsidizing the establishment of new colonies. Also, a private company incorporated in Russia can legally on the land, unlike Foreigners, who are generally restricted from outright owning the land.

Also the migration would provide a massive propaganda win for Putin so it's in his interest.

Yeah it would really make sense for Putin to agree to such an agreement because it would be a massive propaganda boost. Also, Russia will benefit from the Skills/talents that the whites fleeing from the west will bring, along with of course the taxes that could be raised from the new white colonies/enclaves.

It's an up an coming method of Gene modification.
Google it.

Say what you will about materialism, but I think Einstein has been more than vindicated in regards to spacetime and nuclear physics.

Building a new system from scratch, is easiest, because you do not have to deal with the demographic issues and politician and lawyers.

People will self select, with the non-cucks leaving the rest to die or remain slaves of the central banks.

There are THOUSANDS of islands, just in the Philippines. The militaries in the area are a joke. Black water will overthrow some of these countries for $300,000.

The government does not even control the land.

Your biggest issue will be energy. You need advanced energy generation technology, or will dependent on foreign imports. You also need manufacturing base. You also need a high level of automation.

You will need to begin investing in CNC, energy and logistic and automation technology for growing food, years in advance, so that it is practical. Start working.

White nationalism is divide and conquer.

The real difference is between those who can use logic and reason, and between the brainwashed human golems who would eat their own shit if the government and media told them to.