ANYONE BUT CLINTON

ANYONE BUT CLINTON

Hello Holla Forums

I know you are hurt about seeing Bernie lose. I am not going to lie to you; I am European, and I have hoped that Trump will win the election. I am do not frequent this board…

But…now that we are down to, it seems, Trump vs Clinton. Do you really prefer Clinton over Trump?

As I said, I am European. The wall, or whatever happens inside your country will not affect me, but I am scared to death by the prospect of having Hillary and the neocons in the white house. She just seems like a horrible witch in every way, and the relations with Russia and the rest of the world will turn even worse.

Obama has been stacking up almost everything NATO has of weaponry on the border of Russia now, he has bombed Libya, fucked up Syria. I don't believe Trump would do that. I want peace in this world…

Are any of you going to vote Trump over Hillary? I don't expect you to go to Trump rallies, but do you really want to see HILLARY leading your country into WWIII?

I would have preferred Ron Paul, but he didn't run. I never thought Bernie had a chance against Helldawg anyway…thus it became Trump.

ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/the-neocons-are-trying-to-drag-us-into-wwiii

ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/november/21/hillary-clinton-s-road-to-war/

ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2016/may/25/kosovo-hillary-clinton-s-legacy-of-terror/

ANYONE BUT HILLARY

…please?

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reddit.com/r/HillaryForPrison/comments/4mzmzy/things_are_going_to_get_grim_for_hillary_over/
thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/21/hillary-pac-spends-1-million-to-correct-commenters-on-reddit-and-facebook.html
abc.net.au/news/2016-06-08/caro-time-to-celebrate-hillary-clinton's-victory/7489398
independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nato-risks-nuclear-war-with-russia-within-a-year-senior-general-warns-a7035141.html
independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-refuses-to-rule-out-using-nuclear-weapons-in-attack-on-europe-a6961101.html
youtube.com/watch?v=sAmM872874A
theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/11/mainstream-left-silencing-sympathetic-voices
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_W._Adorno
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling
twitter.com/AnonBabble

I can add; if Bernie somehow gets into the game again; go ahead and vote for him. It is just horrible Hillary I am REALLY worried about. I think Trump would be better in many ways, but who knows…

BUT, now it looks like he is out..

on the one hand, hilldawg supports $12 minimum wage

on the other hand, trump is progunz, anti-TPP, anti citizens united, protectionist and isolationist (the US working class is going to need that shit in the years to come to protect itself from international capitalism)

you win some, you lose some

inb4 this gets anchored

kekarooni

love this meme

Nope. Really Trump is further to the left then Hillary is. You won't find anyone that supports her or the democrat establishment here friend. We don't support liberalism on this board.

Implying she'd actually do something like that and it isn't a worthless empty promise come on. As far is empty promises go. Trump's would probably help the working class more anyway.

trump scares me.

like, nobody can predict what he's going to do.

Holla Forumstards think it's fucking hilarious, but seriously, he could fuck shit up.

why would anyone make a position with that much power. the american government was designed by retards.

don't pull that fucking card. there is 0 accountability in this entire system so all we have to go by is what politicians promise to do. implying trump is trustworthy either.

Why would the mods anchor a legitimate political thread? In that case, this board is worse than Holla Forums!

What is the point of this board, if you cannot discuss things like this?

That's your strawman. I never said that. I do believe he is less crooked than Hillary, who is a proven liar and a warmonger though. She is in bed with the neocons and has earned a fortune on making wars…

Putin and Trump seems to respect each other. I am in Europe, and we are basically in a cold WWIII already. This is by far the most important aspect to me…

I am Scandinavian btw; I know how a welfare state by the "best" model works, and pros and cons. I believe in socialism, and true capitalism is cancer…

Our welfare state is currently in some trouble because of the racial and cultural inequality in the willingness to contribute to it, and not abuse it…

Why do you think any of that is bad? Fucking shit up is the best possible scenario.

There's a general thread that you're supposed to post in.


not "fuck shit up" in the revolution kind of way but "fuck shit up" in the pinochet kind of way

Don't buy into that liberal bullshit the mainstream media is pushing. Trump is just an edgy liberal and the president has very very little power to do anything on his own. If you're honestly thing of voting for Hillary out of fear of Trump you should just yourself right now. The world doesn't need chumps like you.

I didn't say he was more trustworthy. I said his empty promises were better than Hillary's. Also it doesn't matter what politicians say. Did Obama help get rid of money in politics? Come on.

you seem to be replying to the wrong posts

Well, you have a choice between Trump and Hillary now, basically.

Can you tell me why you are more scared of Trump than Hillary?

The fact that Putin says nice things about Trump, and we know how Hillary has played a huge role in the wars and hell we are currently in, makes me much less scared of him.

I know this Putin-thing is meant as anti-Trump propaganda, but like I said, I'm in Europe, and WWIII is the absolutely most important thing to me. Also, I think that

is right. I honestly believe Trump would do more for the working class in USA.

Great, we have no involvement in the political process, we're powerless to change it, and this thread is pointless.

that's funny because all of his policies seem pretty right-wing to me


He's already said he would exploit executive action. beyond that, republicans in congress would certainly team up with him to reform taxes, expand the military, etc.

i dont vote solely based on character. hillary is a crook but she hasn't threatened to loosen libel laws or block parts of the internet. you're completely ignoring policy.

What is so right-wing? And isn't the prospect of a world war the far most important aspect of the next four years? Trump has always been outspoken AGAINST the wars, while Hillary has worked hard to get her wars in Libya and Syria, among others.

What are you so afraid of?

Also, if you haven't figured out that he uses edgy rhetorics to WIN the election…well…that should be pretty obvious…

lmao try harder

I guess it's the Greens for Socialists and Clinton for the Unionists.

Is that for me?

Also; if you want to know how "perfect socialism" is working in practice, you can ask me. I grew up in "socialist utopia"…

You will not get it in USA with Hillary, that's for sure… and it has its drawbacks, but it's better than the alternatives.

Yes there have been studies done showing that you will literately never have any impact on the government as a an average citizen . What are you a soc dem? Did you actually deluded yourself into thinking which establishment candidate you voted for actually mattered ?

Not really He's anti-free trade and anti-globalism that puts him to the left of Clinton in my book. He's just being edgy to appeal to certain ignored subset of the population. It's just liberal hysteria. You're being foolish.

everything except elements of his foreign policy


he's still a conservative. if you think he's an undercover moderate you're crazy. he will have to try to fulfill some of his promises to keep his worshipers satisfied and willing to elect him a second term.

Yeah Hillary is a war monger. I'm more worried of her starting a cold war with China or Russia then Trump creating some kind of American Reich.

Not really He's anti-free trade and anti-globalism that puts him to the left of Clinton in my book. He's just being edgy to appeal to certain ignored subset of the population. It's just liberal hysteria. You're being foolish.


clinton changed her mind about the tpp (of course), but regardless, you do realize there's more policy than just foreign and trade policy?

DAILY REMINDER

reddit.com/r/HillaryForPrison/comments/4mzmzy/things_are_going_to_get_grim_for_hillary_over/

This. He is obviously very anti-globalism, and Hillary is VERY in bed with the globalists. My country donated a lot of money to her phoney Clinton-foundation, to buy the corrupt politicians good jobs etc. The Clintons are corrupt as fuck, that is 100% certain.

Trump MAY be shitty, but at least I'm sure he will not bait WWIII or continue the race-baiting that Obama has been doing. He is a wildcard, while Hillary *will* be a disaster…

Also, friendly reminder that Hillary has PAID SHILLS.

thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/21/hillary-pac-spends-1-million-to-correct-commenters-on-reddit-and-facebook.html

It's Hillary vs Trump at this point. You have to choose the LEAST bad candidate for you (I'm in Europe, so the only thing that matters to me is foreign policy)

Hillary for accelerationism? Open up to unrestricted capitalism, and then when everything goes to hell, stage revolution?

This may happen, true, because Hillary is a criminal who belongs behind bars. However, what if it doesn't? What if you have to choose between (realistically)

Trump or Clinton?

And she's lying. She won't do anything about the TPP. I guarantee you. Oh yeah what else is so great about Hillary Clinton's platform? Idpol? A sightly less garbage health care plan?Kick backs for "Green" companies to fight climate change? She's a neocon. I'm expecting a repeat of the Bush Administration with a little pandering to sjw instead of the christfag pandering. A repeat of the Obama Administration would be optimistic with her track record.

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I have no idea, I'm European. Trump is a complete wildcard to me, but at least he is not a PROVEN fraud.

You can either take a chance with Trump and see where it goes from there, or choose the 100% safe bet on hell on earth.

I do think that Trump will be better than Hillary for your domestic affairs too, though, but the wars is my major concern.

I suspect those supporters are paid by Soros.

she's a career politician. she just wants money and power. let her embezzle some funds here and there and delegate policy decisions to specialists and we will survive to try again in a new election.

Agreed on this. She is the safe bet if you want hell. Obama was a big disappointment to many, but Hillary will definitely be even worse. She is a fraud and very dangerous.

Does anyone believe she will be BETTER than Trump, on the "no more wars for the neocons"-matter?

No, I don't think it will be 4 more years of status quo. Have you noticed how the global political climate is now?

You know she was heavily involved in engineering the wars in Syria and Libya, right? It may be "status quo" for you, but not for the millions who have died, and not for Europe, who are facing WWIII in their homelands if we don't get someone who can fix things.

Hillary is PRO WAR. Proven record.

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though now that I say it, the huge SJW upsurge recently could be relevant. could have been started to drum up support for mrs. feminism. perhaps there is something more behind her. Perhaps there is something more planned for her presidency.


And I'm sure us electing a shiny model fascist right now will do you guys wonders.

Hi, welcome to US politics. Engineering wars IS the status quo.

What do you want? Are you referring to the rise of domestic fascism or the syrian immigrants or some theoretical war down the road…?


And people say burgers are loudmouths

What is that supposed to mean?

Will vote 3rd party like I do every year.
I'd prefer Trump because even though he's an unpredictable clown, that means he has the chance to do the right thing sometimes, ass opposed to war hawk Hillary.

Yes, but now it is starting to get really dangerous… we haven't been so close to a nuclear war since forever. Call it a status quo if you want, but I would rather have a guy who is NOT … I hope … going to lead us further down that road…


No, I'm referring to the HORRIBLE relations with Russia. It has worried me since the NATO-led coup in Ukraine where they are currently supporting nazis to murder the ethnic Russian population, and has a goal of getting NATO to the border of Russia.


Why would you waste your vote?

The real election will be between a wildcard, and a war hawk.. that's your two options at this point…

I also have to say I'm a little bit let down by this board. The "general election" thread is filled with one-line comments and rage, while few wants to discuss real issues in this thread…

Thanks for participating :)

abc.net.au/news/2016-06-08/caro-time-to-celebrate-hillary-clinton's-victory/7489398
P U R E I D E O L O G Y

The major parties supposedly keep track of third party votes in order to keep from losing to the opposition.

That "European" is just a troll… :)

Yeah I don't see war with russia in the near future, much less a nuclear one.

Though I don't live near it.

I think that is a weird strategy, and I think this election is the most important in the history of the US. If you think, like me, that Hillary is a war-hawk.. please consider voting trump..

independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nato-risks-nuclear-war-with-russia-within-a-year-senior-general-warns-a7035141.html

I don't know how much you follow international news, but things are REALLY bad now. And the worst news, is that we cannot really win a war if it breaks out…

Also EU is pure cancer, and a Trump presidency with less interventions from USA would probably hasten its demise… but that's just for us Europeans :)

If you focus purely on war and the global scene, Trump must surely be a better choice?

He really seems pro-USA, even though he may not be exactly what you want.

Hillary works for foreign interests and has no respect for human life…

Yeah probably.

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Ok, we agree there.. so what would you vote if you had to vote on one of them?

Yes, I do think it matters. If I am wrong, there is nothing to lose. If you are wrong, there is everything to lose.

Why risk it?

i guess trump could do wonders as an ideological leftist victory if another crash happened under his watch

btw someone in the other thread just pointed this out
independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-refuses-to-rule-out-using-nuclear-weapons-in-attack-on-europe-a6961101.html
LOL

Honestly, I get not voting for Hillary: I don't intend to either. But for the love of god, don't go Trump just out of spite. Don't play into the hands of the two party system trying to shoot for a "less of two evils." Just vote for a third party that actually comes closer to representing your views. If Sanders got your support for being an entryist who had a chance to push the Overton window a bit to the left, then you still can at least partially achieve that if the Green or Socialist party got noticeable numbers instead.

weren't they horrible sellouts or am i thinking of the CPUSA?

Probably CPUSA, since they're deep in idpol and have been shilling for Hillary since the very beginning of the primaries.

All he is showing is that he is honest. Why is this triggering you? He says he is not ruling it out. It would be stupid to completely rule it out.

IF say Paris is taken by ISIS and they get nukes, I'm for nuking them too, before they kill millions.

It's not out of spite. Did you read my thread? There is a world outside USA, and Hillary has been ruining it for quite a while. She will get MUCH worse as POTUS.

I have been honest about not caring so much for your domestic politics since the start, but I do honestly think Trump will be better there too… however; that pales in comparison to my fears for what wars Hillary would make. We are already in the worst state of the world since WWII.

are you a shill?
Yeah and if Paris gets invaded by ayy lmao's from Independence Day and they start exterminating humanity I'm for nuking them too.

The US is going to continue fucking with the rest of the world regardless of who becomes president. If Trump gets elected, its still mostly going to be the Republican party calling the shots, and they still have their neocon warhawks that are going to push for foreign shenanigans. This is simply the way that US capitalism operates, and it will happen in either party.

Trump DOES have the problem though of being empowered by and often supporting the far-right. Even IF Trump was less likely to fuck with the rest of the world, that wouldn't mean dick for us Americans. That would be like willingly electing someone like Franco into power; sure, he didn't really get involved with the rest of the world too much, but his reign was hell for people living in Spain at the time. Hillary is shit, and I don't support her, but Trump would still be far worse for the internal condition of the US. Why would I support a candidate who will make my quality of life noticeably worse? Why should the whole of the American population have to be thrown under the bus because the rich elite decided to be imperialist dickbags?

Define shill? I am European (Norwegian), and I know from recent history that Hillary is a proven war-hawk and is responsible for the death of thousands, if not millions. I know that Russia actually has my country on one of the top spots to nuke if things go hot because we have so much NATO-shit here.


Exactly. Watch the clip, and you will understand, if you are unbiased, that this is what he says.

Yes, a Trump-presidency will not be perfect. Imho NATO has to go. What we are doing to the world is pure evil, for our corrupt elite.

However, Trump will try to avoid it, while Hillary will try to create more wars for her own profit…

Your point about domestic affairs is fair, but I honestly think he is just edgy and populistic to get to what he understands (correctly) as voters who have lost faith in "the politically correct elite". He looks like a narcissist to me, and I'm sure he is doing this because he wants to make things better, not for money. If he is right, is another thing. Hillary is in it for personal gains…and I'm not talking about fame or a legacy here…

I forgot…


It seems that most people here agrees with me that he probably will be…


Because the alternative is worse, and because millions of people outside USA will DIE in the wars of the neocons. It will be more Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine etc.

Possibly WWIII.

I don't blame you for thinking first and foremost about yourself, but do you really think Hillary will be better for you? What do you think Trump will do that is so bad domestically? Build a wall?

Also Trump would repeal Obamacare for a free-market solution.

FUCK that shit.

Man I just can't get over how many people are just OK with how many have died or had their lives upturned because of Hillary's policies.

As a Norwegian, Obamacare do sound a bit stupid, but I don't know all the details. I am for free healthcare though, but come on, the world is on fire… you can wait four more years before you get your utopia!

Yes, we have a candidate who will kill millions FOR MONEY alone, and people are still considering her "better" because she is a "democrat".

What the hell is wrong with people…

She has proven that she has NO morals. Trump may not be perfect, but at least he seems to have a soul…

*does

English is not my first language, I slip up sometimes…

You think we're ok with it?
You also think we're ok with nicaragua? Vietnam? Gulf war? Gulf war 2: electric boogaloo? Iraq? Afghanistan? Chile? Timor? Argentina? Guatemala? Palestine?

Hillary isn't the first to do this, she's the two dozenth.

There is no getting off this train, for there are no brakes on it.

Absolutely not. Loss of social healthcare of any kind will be a major victory for the right, and we may never be getting it back.

That said, I am a socialist (at least by American standards) and support free healthcare, but I would have given up mine if I thought it could prevent millions from being killed in wars for the neocons…

I understand your concern, but not your priorites…

fuck Shillery, fuck Chump and fuck their NSA friends

But you have to choose. It will be one of them…going defeatist will not solve anything…

I'm not talking about Holla Forums necessarily but plenty of people here would take Hillary over Trump, who is isolationist.

Fuck off. Nothing at all will solve anything. We are completely powerless. Everything's fucked. Quit asking us which flavor of cyanide to take.

Obamacare isn't social healthcare. There are some good provisions in it, but it's not socialized at all. It's an insurance mandate, which is a lolbert's wet dream. Healthcare isn't provided for people, rather, they're forced to buy coverage or be fined.

Jesus

Yep. It started out as a little bit of socialized healthcare, with a "public option" provided to poor people who don't get health insurance through their employer (which is how it works for most wage slaves in the US). But Obama is a huge fucking pussy and the Republicans negotiated from that starting point to mandating insurance for those poor people instead.

I feel bad for you Americans, having to select between cancer and aids, my strictly unprofessional prediction is if Hillary is nominated Trump will barely scrape by with a win, if Bernie somehow makes a comeback Democrats do have a fighting chance.

no I don't.

Is this what they call concern trolling?

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No, you are right. You don't really have to do anything good. You can sit and whine at home because Bernie didn't convince enough people, and do nothing to at least TRY to prevent the murder of thousands of innocent people…

Ethics is not so much about what you *have* to do really.

I'm starting to believe that it is true what they say about Holla Forums, it's not much more than virtue signalling and gibsmedat…

You may be right, so the best thing to do is to not vote, right?

That will show them…

No, this is called concern for the future, and concern for innocent people in the world who will die because of Hellary's shenigans to keep her fortune growing.

Pic related; one product of Hillary & Friends.

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This is why you people are losing.

Tell me your address and I will send the local Antifa to your house for some one on one talking.

Vote Trump and watch the wheels come off the whole thing.

Is this the new 'cultural marxism'? An expression that fits and describes perfectly a phenomenon but (((certain people))) will attack and dispute the validity of the term?

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This is certainly an possibility and a masterstroke if true. But I don't think the Don's ego could take it. I think you're looking to justify yourself. Trump is objectively better than Clinton for the world at large and US workers. Many of you here simply won't because it would feel too much like Holla Forums winning.

You're absolutely right my redpilled brother, first I came for your jazz and now I come for your white women.

No, virtue signaling is a dumb meme just like cultural Marxism, cuck, regressive left, etc. That Holla Forumsyp just doesn't realize it yet, or he's too disingenuous to admit it. See: youtube.com/watch?v=sAmM872874A

Trumps foreign policy is probably going to be more incompetentthan hillarys if for no other reason than the best people won't want to work for him, I see them getting involved in about the same amount of armed conflicts

Fuck off Trumpchump. I'm voting Jill Stein to get the greens into debates at +5%. The Greens became vocally anti-capitalist recently with their political stance and a ton of Bernie supporters vow to vote for her the second Bernie drops out of the race so it could very well happen.

What, pray tell, is the "cultural Marxist" equivalent of actual Marxist concepts, such as surplus value, exploitation, dialectical materialism, or just about anything other than a vague idea of societal conflict?


kek

Yeah, that's the Antifa way of doing shit. Go in a large group and beat people who don't agree with you to a bloody pulp…

Forget it, I saw a lot of antifa and leftist violence in the city where I used to live :) I don't want anything to do with those violent apes…

>they don't even sage
Never change, Holla Forums.

You are right. They would rather watch the world burn, than swallowing their pride…

I have admitted it from the start; my support for Trump is purely based on the well-being of the rest of the world. I understand why some would want Bernie, but for the rest of the world, Trump will be a blessing and a saint compared to Helldog, if he turns out to be who he claims to be.

I don't want more neocon-wars killing innocent people and flooding Europe with refugees for money… we already have big problems with terrorism and people who refuse to work or integrate.

I actually think Trump would be a good president for the worker-class (but not illegal immigrants), but that's not my main concern here…

Saying all of this shit isn't real is just a cheap way of ducking out of conversation about phenomenon evident to most people. Hell, even the Guardian touched on the 'regressive left', albeit it not using that term.


theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/11/mainstream-left-silencing-sympathetic-voices

You can keep talking about how these people are 'not the real left' or whatever, but the the VAST majority of the public (you remember, those plebs who's support you assume?) see the PC, regressive, SJW as THE left today.

We don't support either, they're both dogshit, most of us here are radicals we aren't voting for your flavor of the decade porky puppet, now go back to Holla Forums.

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"Virtue signalling" is not a meme. Maybe the English expression has become one, I don't know, but it definitely is a legitimate phenomenom, and I have watched people do it for years….

I may be wrong about exactly what it means in English, but what I mean is signalling "the right opinion" within your group, like "we have to help those refugees!" without actually intending to do anything other than talk about it…

Are everyone here antifa? Ok then, all is lost…


Antifa don't even see how ironic that is…

I'm not antifa, i can't stand them personally, but they are usefull idiots.

What's this "concern troll"-meme you have here?

My only posts here are the one you can see (OP) behind…

Really? I thought most people here were pretty much normal people, not "radicals". I don't know what you mean about it, but if you mean the antifa-type, I'm clearly in the wrong place…

Nope. Tis called cultural marxism because 'it' came from the thinkings of a bunch of Marxists. It is cultural marxism because they (the modern left/western marxists) mfocus primarily on culture (superstructure) that they see as re-enforcing capitalism. At least the ones who actually understand what they're doing see this connection between culture and capitalism. The vast majority of those practicing cultural marxism don't even have this deep an understanding. They're simply longing to be revolutionary and see critical theory and generally deconstruction of western traditional values as a revolutionary act in itself.

inb4 spookposts

Cultural Marxists are do-gooder students who're using theory devised by Marxists to force change in western culture.

Pretty much.

>>>/liberalpol/

That's exactly what it means. The guy you're replying to knows this. This is how leftists operate today though, refusing to engage in debate by simply saying 'lol you dumbfuck that's not even a real word'. As if leftism itself doesn't rely heavily on creating new words to describe observable (and sometimes even less tangible) concepts.

This board is really weird. I tried to find some discussions to see if the guy threatening with sending Antifa to beat some "sense" to me was right about this place. I still don't know, everyone just seems to agree that there is some vague thing that needs to be defeated, and that Bernie was their only hope…

This is just the

Stalin did nothing wrong

version of Holla Forums

… only that there are no real discussion or news or anything here…

"We need to gulag "Bobby the retarded newfag"
"So comrades, did papa Stalin do anything wrong?"

Nah mate I just think you are a traitor from the perspective of both the left and right wing, since Trump is the kind of man to increase us military presense in europe, or even launch a full on war.

Trump is exactly the kind of people both the left and right in europe should hate, he is an imperialist, he wants to control us. You are just too brainwashed by american propaganda to realise that supporting someone like trump is anti-european.

[citation needed]

Why would Putin say nice things about someone like that, and why do you not mention Hillary's wars?

Hilary also did wars, but she has a track record of keeping the status quo. I'd rather have wars in the middle east than Fuhrer Trump invading europe.

As for putin, its like stalin and hitler. They are both maniacs and will divide up europe between them.

A lot of the Frankfurt school was really conservative though.
The exact same things that Holla Forumsyps cconstantly complain about is also exactly what the Frankfurt school saw as institutions upholding capitalism - rampant consumerism, hippies, nihilism ect.

The problem is that the generally they just analyzed culture, and the first generations were mostly just critical of exactly the kind of bullshit that right-wingers don't like.

Therefore, sure they wanted to change Western culture, but in that sense, so does Holla Forums.

Trump has ALWAYS been against Iraq, Libya, Syria. Hillary has engineered them. You have to be a paid Hillary-shill.

Stalin and Hitler never worked together or divided Europe between them either; read a book. I'm not worried about Trump or Putin invading us. I'm worried about Shillary creating more neocon-wars in ME which will lead to more chaos, more refugees, more death…and possibly trigger WWIII.

You speak arabic to an Arab
Kurdish to a Kurd.

There is only one language facists speak.

Thats not what i said you illiterate fuck. I said I would rather have america kill arabs than them killing me. Hilary will continue bombing the middle east, but i fear trump will invade europe.

Not that i trust any promise any of them make to "stop something".

I guess people attacking 'them' from the left could just adopt them term 'left wing capitalists'. That the name we give them should sound like a pejorative is a given since anyone to the right of the overtron window is called by these very cultural marxists/left-wing capitalists a fascist and anyone to the left of it a brocalist/commie.

U wot M8?

Are you fucking blind? I've written it out 3 times now already.

You've said it a few times but you've not explained where they hell you get this from.

Similarities to dictators in the past, directly using their quotes, being a full on populist, strongman image, nationalist etc.

It has to be a paid Hillary-shill. Nobody can be THIS retarded.

Man, they really fried your brain…

A meme was borned.

Yea nationalists never invaded other countries.

You take the countries NEAR you so you can expand…

Still, your reasoning is completely retarded.


Fucking brilliant. Sanders would invade Europe by the same logic.

I hope you are trolling….

Na fam, antifa maim, but they don't kill. Like batman.

Bernie ruined this board. It doesn't matter who the president is, sanders trump or Clinton. They are all ruling class and all will seek to continue to defend the interests of the nation bourgeoisie.

Is virtue signalling the new meme for the right to use against people who want to act ethically and lack the power to do so?

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The meaning is pretty clear. It's just giving term to what used to be known as do-gooders or at least people who want to be seen as good. je suis charlie for example. Virtue signalling.

I'd rather vote Hillary just to make Holla Forumsyps mad. I have no feeling that the Hillary administration will be any worse than the milquetoast Obama administration, while a Trump admin will just encourage the fascists even more.

Any threads trying to convince people to vote for either bourgeois candidate will get bump locked.

Sounds like a way to blame people for pointing out problems when they don't have the power to fix them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_W._Adorno

Adorno fucking loathed Hippies and their protest songs.

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I see our resident SJW has decided to lie to us again.

Can anyone give me a non cynical overview of what Clinton stands for and what her policies are?

nothing about hippies in there

surely what you want is a correct one

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No, it is a way of pointing out people whining about things which may or may not be problems so that they look benevolent in the eyes of their peer group. Correction what caused their whining is entirely incidental to the motives of the virtue signaller. Yes, I do think this term accurately describes a large percentage of the current social justice gang.

Come on. Are you fucking kidding me? Why do you think young people, especially the under 18s are overwhelmingly liberal? It is largely holier-than-thou 'look how tolerant I am' ego masturbation. It is largely about how they appear to their peer group.

Better get the wiki-(((editors))) back on the job.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling

Come on. Are you fucking kidding me? Why do you think young people, especially the under 18s are overwhelmingly alt-rigt? It is largely edgier-than-thou 'look how dank I am' ego masturbation. It is largely about how they appear to their peer group.

this accusation was originally leveled at Holla Forums, not liberals.

While being wrong too. Amazing. Young voters overwhelming supported Sanders. Now he is out I assure you they will choose Clinton over Trump. Not based on actual policy, in which Clinton is worse, but because Trump is portrayed as fascist and what could possibly be more virtuous than fighting fascism.

No it wasn't. It has always been about SJW types.

It was brought up in this thread about Holla Forums

Thank you based fascist "antifascist"!

It's bourgeoisie btw. Revolutionaries should get it right…

no, it's bourgeois as an adjective