SSD death

I've had a fair share of hard drives die on me. I've managed to recover all of them, sometimes doing the silliest things (like plugging it while on the fridge, hammering it a little, swapping controller board, opening it up and un-jamming it manually, using SpinRite kind of tools, etc), so I've grown used to "if it fails I can just recover it".

But SSDs are not like that - if one dies I have no clue what to do. I'm pretty sure I can't just swap the controller chip by de-soldering one from a good identical unit, right? And even then, I'd like to avoid it.

So, how do you protect yourself? I'm considering getting a 1TB sata for a laptop, can I use a 1TB external HDD I have for backup? What's the right way to back up? (It would suck if it dies mid-write of a backup).

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wtf. you're hanging onto your data by a 10 mile long string

You can still read an SSD if it won't write. SSD data recovery programs can read the data pretty easily, so long as the controller isn't completely fucked. The bad sectors that form will usually hold the data permanently. This is why SSDs suck for secure/secret storage.

SSDs are extremely durable, and there are many programs that can detect a failing drive.

You'll have to be extremely unfortunate to have a SSD randomly die on you without being able to recover the data.

how is it a problem if one uses FDE?

MAKE BACKUPS YOU FUCKING NIGGER.
EVERYBODY IS GIVING FREE ONLINE STORAGE THESE DAYS, JUST ENCRYPT ALL THE THINGS.

HGST
HITACHI
IBM
TOSHIBA
WD

If you buy seagate expect your offline backup to die same time as your laptop's online storage

Use micro sd cards, fam ! As much space and as many as are needed. Recovery and backup is the shit !

And for security reasons.

You fag, that shit aint free. You get fugged !!!

Local or go home.

I have 28TB of online storage which is 90% used and 10mbit upstream. Cloud backups just arent feasible.


You do realize that any SSD which isnt shit is self encrypting. Just change the key when it is time to decommission the disk.

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find a cheaper(most are expensive as fuck) corporate-grade SSD, its built and designed using higher standards and will last longer

To back-up really important data, good quality optical disk is the way to go.
- It is data storage only --> you don't have to rely on a proprietary firmware to be able to read back the data.
- Optical disk readers are cheap, can be built from open hardware.
- Optical disks are guaranteed to be read-only --> verifiable, hard to tamper with the data.
- Optical disks are cheap (compared to tape, ssd and hdd today).
- It is easy to read, easy to write, extremely easy to recover compared to other storage, less parts to fail.
- Good quality optical disks are durable enough if stored properly, but can be easily destroyed on will, no extreme tools needed.
- Optical disks do not have individual serial numbers (only manufacturer info).
- Bonus: You can write "my dick pics" on it. Good luck to those in court who ask for your decryption key...

That's what I thought the first time, but after half a dozen "now I really screwed up!" I just think "meh. Hard drive data never really goes away."


Yeah, most were Seagate, but two were WD. I think RAID is better than relying on HGST tho, you can buy two drives from Seagate vs one from HGST.

It's either thumb drive sized or I have to pay monthly for cloud crap.


Just more IOPS, and if it costs twice for "security" you could buy two and mirror a disk.

I don't understand why anyone would choose to buy a "more reliable" disk if it costs twice (or more) than an OK one. Two Seagate drives failing at the exact same time seems less likely than one HGST drive ever failing over its lifespan.

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From what I've heard, two harddrives failing at the same time is not that unlikely if they were from the same batch.


Do you have brain damage?

stop downloading HD rips of movies you dont watch

It seems absurd unless you work on a datacenter or something and are used to replacing failing HDDs every other day. At the exact same day and hour? On the other hand I imagine an HGST would die after several years.


That's his porn stash.

how fucked am i? are sandisk ssd's any good? does it even matter?

With what?
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openbsd fde. so aes xts i guess. i further encrypt certain files with software i've made myself.

but i was asking about the reliability of my sandisk ssd.

SSD`s are pretty reliable with my recent sample size of one in active use and another in cold storage. It survived fully intact when the PSU too quickly changed power sockets while the two HDD`s dropped out.

that's interesting. i've heard that ssds are very prone to breaking with power fluctuations. it makes me scared to even hard reset after a lockup.

i've also read that ssd retention is a problem if you keep them in storage long-term. supposedly they need to be powered periodically in order to retain their data. do flash drives do that too?

Probably, AFAIK all solid state memory is based on "charge a capacitor on top of a transistor and use the transistor as a gate" (right?)

You're thinking of DRAM.

You mean those NANDs like pic related are not a capacitor and a transistor? Or is this not how SSDs work?

Sup Muh? Did you get the sources for the Cisco shit?

This is why you use an incremental backup, or just sync files. But yes, automatically backing up an SSD to a cheaper mechanical drive is the way to go.

You should also have another unconnected HDD that is in a location where fire/theft are not issues for data you CANNOT LOSE.

what's wrong with bitlocker?

Those are some tastey hooks you have there. Let me count some of the ways, 0) closed source, 1)Made by Microsoft (who can totally be trusted, really), 2) heavily suggests and automatically uploads the backup key to Microsoft drive if an Microsoft account is connected, 4)Tied to specific licence versions of Windows (Pro and above at least for 7 and 8.x. Not shure and don't care about 10).

On top of those issues, the TrueCrypt team suddenly disbanding and recommending BitLocker sounded like a solid reason not to use it in particular. Like a subtle hint.
(It's not like they would tell you if they were under a gag order)

I back up my important data into CDs in spiral gravity chambers

Prevents natural deterioration.

Yes, the secret trick was sending a threatening letter to their general counsel.


Generally no, it is increased write endurance. My 480GB Seagate 600 Pros are rated for 2.6PB sequential write endurance, 512GB Samsung 850 Evos are rated for 300TB.


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gas yourself

You seem to like paying extra, and being a Mac user explains why.
It's opt-out.

Who the fuck pays for Windows outside of corporations?

nigger please, you're not a cryptographer. you couldnt analyze an algorithm to save yourlife.

no it isnt considering the entire microsoft account system is opt in in the first place. and the service can be disabled as well if you want to save some extra resources

and to further elaborate, you can still verify the output since it uses AES and you can query the TPM for the key

I'll give you points for the bixnood.net domain.

>>>/auschwitz/