What does Holla Forums think of Bezmenov?

Yup.

It's the current year.

As if that changes anything.

...

We have this thread every month.

He's lying, fam. He's a defector that wanted to get into the good graces of the West and make a bit of cash on top of it so he just told the Right what it wanted to hear.

Well he did say all of you wouldn't disregard the communist ideology by only a few words.

Oh well, I tried to help Holla Forums. But you do what you want to do.

Yes. We all know you came in here good faith to save the degenerate commie faggots from their anuddah shoah ideology.

You want us to argue that the KGB isn't subverting the US anymore?

Do we really have to?

The KGB don't exist anymore.

Except I'm not a Nazi by any means of the word. And I don't consider you all degenerate, just somewhat misguided.

That doesn't mean their subverting efforts didn't linger on and convert a few stooges like you to their ideology ;)

You do know that all his claim are unsubstantiated.

I mean, I know he was in the KGB but that doesn't mean that he's telling the truth.

He's telling American conservatives exactly what they want to hear and he's making a lot of money and fame on it.

Is it really that far-fetched to believe that he might have embellished slightly?

Help us what? Become right-wing paranoiacs?

Even a cursory amount of research proves what he's saying to be complete bullshit.

Like the claim that Marxism-Leninism was being taught in American schools unopposed. It only takes a cursory glance into actual Marxist-Leninist ideology to see that it's an entirely different animal from the American New Left, and that the two are actually strongly opposed on many, if not most issues.

He was playing your lot for fools, fam. And you bought it.

I'm not a Marxist-Leninist.
Unlike the 1980's there are almost no Marxist-Leninists left.

Surely that would be some more evidence that this happened. I mean, COINTELPRO was at least partly prooven.
This has no substantiation besides someone who's paid to say its true.

stop taking the fucking bait.

You want to explain to me then what he's embellishing, exactly?

Let me fucking school you cunts:
In the 1970s, the Soviets began to realize that they couldn't win a war with the US under any circumstances, and they were going to be choked and suffocated until they collapsed. They knew they were going to fragment and they decided to get one last hit back at the US.

They didn't have the ability to invade or conduct a conventional war, so they decided to instead target something that the US could not protect against, that being the subversion of the youth.

So, they decided to create massive amounts of propaganda and release it. They targeted other countries instead of their own people, and eventually some people in the West began to pay attention. At first the ruskies and anyone who sympathized with them were treated with scorn or hatred, but over time people slowly got more tolerant.

Around the 1980s, people born in the 1950s began to enter into positions of power. They were born after WW2 so they weren't around to experience total war, and all they had experienced was paranoia and hatred for no reason.

Of course, these people had been taking massive doses of KGB bullshit, so they began to soften. They had kids around this time, those kids were born into one of the better times of recent history, and they softened and took the Soviet's bullshit seriously.

After a while they had kids. Those kids are currently in schools being fed bullshit from the past two generations.

It's a run on effect, they had the intention of taking down the US from the inside but it lingered and now young under 25s are taking it seriously and parading it around as the best thing to ever be proposed.

You've all eaten literal KGB propaganda and you haven't even considered it.

Over 100 million fucking people dead through this bullshit you believe and you think maybe this time it will work? For shame. You people are bigots, racists, and everything you propose has already been tested and ended in literal genocides.

Want to explain what he isn't embellishing?

The point is that we can't know, because it's unsubstantited and he's the only source for all this.
So I can't know what is truth and what is lies and neither can you.

Oy vey, remember the 100 gorillion

Oy vey, I can't believe my shekels for last months subverting still haven't arrived!

Hi, this is OP, interesting stuff you've given. They call me a Nazi but then you come in and tell them how the KGB infiltrated them all.

I mean, I'm not even a Nazi, and I can understand that this is the truth. Why would Bezmenov come over to the West and share all this information that neither these leftist kids nor the past generations knew about.

It has to be true if you can find no sources for it anywhere if it is indeed, subversion, because that would mean it would have to be a subtle conversion of the populace.

That is pretty racist of you all.

Did the KGB infiltrate or cooperate with Marxist-Leninist organizations in the West?
Likely.
Did they have much sucess at it?
Considering that Marxism-Leninism has all but died out, not really.

Also, The KGB is a defunct organization.

Well, he did make a lot of money and get famous.
That was enough for Tania Head.

Which is why they adopted liberal politics that don't even remotely resemble Marxism-Leninism.

You could at least tone down the fact that your political "education" is strictly limited to Internet memes.

Not by the US, but the higherups certainly were being choked and held back by the state run economy of their own country.

For absolutely no reason. 'They' decided to attack their future capitalist allies. Seriously, you think they Soviet leaders went down with the ship, fighting against the American enemies?

Have I considered that modern american liberalism was invented by the KGB to destroy the west? Even if it was…. it doesn't affect me. Have you considered that you are eating literal ex-KGB propaganda? Why would you trust someone from the KGB? Just because you agree with them?

Yeah that subversive 70s KGB propaganda is deadly.

Why is that every faggot who posts this video somehow thinks we haven't been over this a thousand times already?

It's true, but he conveniently leaves out the Jewish mysticism/occult connection.

youtube.com/watch?v=v-AUGZxPalQ

crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/marx.htm

gnostics.com/newdawn-1.html

henrymakow.com/2016/01/Frankfurt-School-is-Illuminati-Jewish-Satanism.html

KGB didn't even exist when the Frankfurt School was created.

Oh hell, the Franks didn't even write about feminism - at all.

Just like my Lewd fantasy novels

Why is that convenient?

The Franks were anti-feminist.

Fromm said some very anti-PC things about gays and Benjamin said some very anti-PC things about women (which isn't surprising given that the Jewish god sees men as much higher than women). To even think of equating their works to modern feminism (Jizzabel, Judith Butler, etc.) is a joke.

no man you don't get it the jews propagate sjew and duhgenewucy while they hate it man their whole plot is to make the west adopt something they dislike to destroy it!!!!

Wow yeah the KGB subverting the US in order to institute Full Communism like totally worked, right guys? I mean we totally don't live under a global dictatorship of capital, right?

no man don't you get it communism = big gubermand which we have now the term "capitalism" is a subversive lie invented by leftists and jews to make voluntary free market exchange seem bad we haven't had that ever in history but everything we have now is thanks to capitalism

yuri is right homosexuals and niggers are at the root of all problems in this world they control all the wealth not the myriad of bankers

They are not here for a conversation because they opinion didn't form from critical evaluation in the first place, hence the conspiracy theories: "it just fits" a worldview that doesn't acknowledge the realities of capitalism. Four dimensional lizards? Chemtrails? Illerminati? Cultural Marxism? It doesn't matter for them.

What's with this reflexive "JEWISH MYSTICISM = SATANISM" nonsense from reactionaries? I don't get it.

I mean, kabbalah's legacy is that it basically became secularized and turned into stuffy literary criticism. Wow. Such evil. So satanism.

This.

To my knowledge, Benjamin and Derrida were into that shit primarily because of exegesis, that they were trying to get into the text beyond the text and such. They weren't "satanists" in the least bit.

Indeed. Also, Derrida's work influenced numerous Christian theologians, chief among them being Caputo.

Pretty sure a guy like Caputo wouldn't be influenced by a "satanist."

I am getting tired of this poor's man substitute for theory.
Proles in Russia have exactly the same conspiracy, in which all global socio-economic processes which Russia was part of and which led to devastating loss in economy, welfare, standard of living and so on are all really caused by long-standing CIA infiltration and subversion of Russian moral standards envisaged by its head Allen Dulles and outlined in the "Dulles' plan". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulles'_Plan
The only difference is that Russia was indeed devastated and exploited by Western transnationals while retarded American Holla Forums-tards could still eat their fucking sterilized burgers, thinking that Theodore fucking Adorno is responsible for global corporate oligarchy.

What's hilarious is that if they actually read Adorno they'd find some things that they agree with.

Is there any evidence AT ALL that those two were influenced by kabbalah? I can't find it on their wiki pages.

Nice shitposting flag m8

Every serious conservative should read Adorno, Benjamin, and Kojève.

Likewise, every serious left-winger should read Heidegger, Schmitt, and Strauss.

What is funny is that Frankfurt school is pretty conservative in its critique; if you read the Dialectic of Enlightenment where they trace the origin of modern alienation and totalitarianism back to prehistorical ancient magical practices of dominating nature for the subjects will, which parallels Heidegger and Sloterdijk.
Not to mention that the whole critique of the Kulturindustrie is basically a common sense now and is practiced even by Alex Jones; so I don't even no what Holla Forums-acks are arguing against, except for the meme pictures and videos with "le destroy the west".

kill yourself OP

Holla Forums merely hears words like "Marxist", "Jews", and "critique" and goes off on a rampage about da eevul j000z tryna subvert muh western cultuuuurrrrr.

Benjamin's Theses on The Philosophy of History is directly influenced by lurianic kabbalah. Benjamin's idea of redeeming the revolutionary potential of the fragments of the past correlates to the lurianic kabbalistic idea of redeeming the sparks of God's light that still exists among the malign husks (kelipot) that once used to contain said light but were too weak to do so; they consequently burst apart and the remaining husks/fragments fell to Earth and are now the cause of the world's ills. To the lurianic kabbalist, their purpose/job is the recovery of God's sparks of light in these husks and their restoration in the "ideal order." For Benjamin, who remains a mystic but takes a decidedly materialist approach to this idea, these "husks" are analogous to the disastrous history of bourgeois culture and society that heaps wreckage at the feet of the Angel of History. It's the purpose/job of the historical materialist to find the revolutionary promise/potential in the fragments of this wreckage and to redeem it. These fragments, imbued with revolutionary promise, cast light on the calamity of modern history and provide the means for imagining it otherwise.

I'm not as well read on Derrida, but I know he was influenced by lurianic kabbalah as well.

Hmmmm, tell me more.

Heidegger was directly influenced by Germanic pagan magic FYI, same with Carl Jung.

stay mad my dude

Sounds like some Dark Souls shit, fam.

yeah smh tbh fam

well it happened already, we see literally girls with dicks, so… yay?

Can you at least tell us why you think communism is bad? You can't "save us" unless you point out why you think what were doing is wrong.

I've seen plenty of writings by Jewish theologians who said Benjamin's writings are heavily influenced by the Jewish religion and mysticism.

The only scholars I've seen deny it are a handful of cherry-picking academics who insist he was, of all things, a surrealist.

IQ is genetic, most commie revolutionary leaders were jews. Get over it.

...

GOOD.

Jews have good values and have a basic understanding of philosophy and history. I'd rather have a communist revolution run by Jews than one run by generic WASPs.

...

Your IQ can only increase by 5 points. The environment has a negligible effect on one's IQ.

Like raping 3 year olds?

[citation needed]

Please. I know the "verse" you're referring to, and if you had any brains you'd see that the Talmud is nothing more than a compilation of debates between sages over how Jewish Law ought to be interpreted. No rabbi is going to tell others it's okay to rape a child. That verse in question is over whether or not a girl who was raped as a small child is still considered a virgin on her wedding night.

You must be thinking of Catholics

come-and-hear.com/sotah/sotah_49.html

...

Neanderthals did have larger brains. And everyone but the Africans have their DNA. What a funny coincidence.

Everything.

Also give proof that all races have equal IQ.

Your post is a great post of that.

Again, the Talmud isn't the word of God. It's sages having debates on debates on debates about how to interpret the five books of Moses.

It's like this: a book featuring a debate by two grad students at the New School about a debate between Badiou and Zizek on polemics between Lenin and Kautsky on Marxism/socialism. That's what the Talmud is.

...

If African had high IQs they would be in paradise considering the wealth of resources Africa has.

...

Richard Lynn basically lied about his low estimates; actual numbers from all possible reliable sources make a genetic explanation of low IQ extremely unlikely.

iapsych.com/iqmr/fe/LinkedDocuments/wicherts2010b.pdf

...

I posted a long-winded publication by reputed researchers and your response is a textbook example of a poorly compressed picture with no source?

Just admit that you want to believe they are inferior by nature and will do anything to justify it–most people are that arrogant about what they think anyway.

Not the people you were discussing with, but you are taking what is known from history for granted. The centers of power are always changing. You and I both, as humans, just happen to be alive during an epoch where the centers of civilization lie in Europe, North America and East Asia. Some centuries ago, the Middle East was where civilization was thriving. Remember where civilization was begun, in the Middle East and North Africa. This continued for centuries until the power game changed. It wasn't that the Europeans (who were barbarians (literally and not as an insult)) were inferior to the Middle Eastern people. There are many social factors and it depends on whether the material conditions are suited as well.

The tests given don;t even reference language and culture. They use pattern finding and number sequencing. How the fuck can they be biased?
predicted national IQs for Botswana, Ghana, Mozambique,
Nigeria, South Africa, Swaziland, and Zimbabwe are 81.4, 70.3,
83.9, 88.3, 73.8, 90.2, and 84.6
Those scores are still borderline retarded.

Ancient north Africans were not black. Also Sumerians are different from modern Arabs.

Your publication still shows that they're borderline retarded

Doesn't IQ usually increase with general cultural, educational and wealth improvements? If the genetic cause was true then that would mean that improvements in IQ among younger generations would be genetic too.

huppi.com/kangaroo/L-IQgapgenetic.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study

You'll notice that the ones with the highest amount of famine and violence are also the ones with the lowest iq. Childhood malnutrition and poor health seems to have a horrible effect on adult intelligence.
Besides, if you actually look into how those averages are obtained; the median and mode aren't signifigantly different from area to area, the larger presence of outliers is what seems to affect the average in these areas. i.e, a high iq area may have the majority of people with 100 iq but a larger amount of 140 iq outliers brings the average up. As well, areas with more childhood disease, poor pregnancies and nutrition are going to have a larger amount of birth defects and retardation, so even if most folks have a 100 iq the average is brought down by having more retards.

...

Any proof that the Bell Curve is biased other than "It makes me uncomfortable!"

Maybe being directly funded by an organization with ties to white supremacy

but what do i know right?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_Fund

...

this is usually coupled with studies from Rushton, which show that since whites have the highest IQ to penis size ratio that they are DA SUPERIOR RACE

also can you name another "scientific" work that directly proposes public policies at the end? ill wait

Most of these folks are basing their views on race out of personal experiences. Someone who has lived in a mainly white neighborhood and had most interaction with blacks during college(where obviously it would self select for blacks of above average intellect) are going to have a different view than people who worked in the gettho for example compared to folks who worked in lower-middle class black neighborhoods.

When was studying difference in different sub-species white supremacist?

...

this dude

Guys gyuys.

youtube.com/watch?v=CYl845GORmM

CRITICAL THEORY JEWSPIRACY CONFIRMED.

Not all IQ tests are the same. Lynn cherry picked the lower results.
90 is borderline retarded?

Your inability to read shows that you are borderline retarded.

Do you fucking idiots seriously think all whites and Asians have high IQs, not merely more of them on average?

Nah, the folks who say they're super biased and whatnot, that there's no differences in iq, are mainly basing their beliefs on personal experience.

We have DNA from Neanderthals and they don't How the fuck are we the same? Do you even Taxonomy.
It's enough to get put in special ed in some schools.

yup damn us for thinking that intelligent black people shouldn't be punished for the actions of the less intelligent of their race.silly us we should focus on the averages and just apply that to everyone

Cherry picking nice sounding numbers is even worse than anecdotes. That you are strawmanning counter-arguments as "literally no difference" demonstrates this.

And Holla Forums types have news about africa and the gettho as their main interaction with black people.

wtf is with Holla Forums's obsession with Black People, Jews I can understand because of the Nazi meme.

But why the fuck obsess over Black IQ so much? Even if it was genetic or even if it mattered as much they make to be so, it doesn't mean shit for us. Communism has nothing to do with "everyone living in an uniform equal intelligence utopia". Some people will still be dumb and some people will still be gifted, the issue being giving equal chances and opportunities for everyone inner skills and gifts to shine. Blacks in America even when raised in the ghetto are doing just in sports and the arts, considering the dog eat dog world which is the US.

because most Holla Forums users live in poorer neighborhoods with higher concentration of black people, thus making them the minority while making them believe they are being marginalized because all those mean black ppl bullied them at school : - (

Most of Holla Forums are american.

Crime and productivity.

Human differences are not subspecies, they are overlapping over large geographical areas, blending randomly. There is simply not clear cut line of "races".
Also, Neanderthal DNA making people smarter has literally never been proven by anyone, even theoretically. It's just assumed to be true because stormcucks gonna cuck.
lel ok

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if most Holla Forumsaks are Europeans. There are a ton of nazis in the EU.

Are almost always the result of no jobs, no opportunities and unequal distribution of wealth.

It never made much sense to me that making someone poorer and reinstituting jim crow laws would make a people more productive when we can see the effects of them. Welfare and gimmedats haven't worked. The main issue is they don't own their communities so there's no incentive or power to improve their economic status.

A few dudes having a fuckload of money does;='t mean shit. The few dozen billionaires out there only own less than 1% of the few hundred trillion dollars in the US economy.

That's exactly why they are so obsessed. They don't think blacks are "just different", but that they are literally demons from Hell that exist for the sole purpose to make the pure Aryans miserable, like cannon fodder in a video game.

Stormfags do not think blacks are less capable as much as they think blacks are completely incapable and that their existence is so detrimental to society that they need to be purged.

...

is this a troll or are you actually that retarded

I never said anything like that. I'd rather have anyone with an IQ under 95 shipped out.

Your heart is in the right place, but this is a poor argument.

same that why Trump can't win

The bourgeoisie isn't only made up by billionaires you idiot.

oh boy a shitty ms paint comic makes a poor argument?? jeez this is a first for the internet

It's not a poor arguement.
Whatever the average is, why wouldn't you judge on individual merit?

Easy access to abortion and improving public health is the less controversial way to reduce the amount of low end iq in areas.

Post unsourced graphs

I know this. What I'm saying is that it's not as simple as people seem to pretend. If you were born into a poor tribe (for the sake of argument) that needed to survive through hunting, where there was no school or learning material, and where there were sometimes acts violence around you and lack of necessary resources, do you really think you'd be so advanced in your thinking faculty? It's really about the material conditions that act as a base to support further development in ability fellow human. As I said, Europeans weren't always a dominant intellectual force and they didn't suddenly become innately superior. Their economies, society and culture allowed for their development. So would I believe that in certain areas IQ scores are lower? Of course not. If there is no stability or intellectual-advocating culture, you won't get anything astonishing. Take Japan, China and Korea for example. You will see that their IQ scores are relatively high compared to any other group. Now take other ethnically/racially (whatever you want to call it) East Asian IQ scores. Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Nepal, Bhutan, etc. Their scores are lower. What happened there? Or take East European countries like the ex-Soviet ones. They're lower as well. They're also poorer areas. Why? Because these regions' populations are innately inferior? Remember that the brain is a muscle. The more you use it and train it, the stronger it develops. This relates to China and Japan because they're society's culture is much more strict and emphasizes schooling very seriously. They attend school for a long time and have much higher expectations. This emphasis or even the ability of schooling is much lower or nonexistent in some areas of the world. If wet take these IQ scores seriously, it'll actually be more about country or region supremacy than "race" supremacy. Then it would go down to wealth supremacy and so on. Because you know, the rich are more likely to be more intelligent since they don't have to worry about bills like we do and have all the time and money to provide their children schooling without worrying about debt. Also, why the strong emphasis in intelligence? Is that really the only important aspect in a human's life? Is that the only thing that matters? What about fitness or happiness? You really only judge a person by their intelligence and if they happen to be more intelligent than you, you'll kneel down? This is ridiculous. It's a mistake to think this reality revolves around this metric.

Finally, why so eager to just put people into groups. The individual and what he brings forth is more important. You deny individuality and its fruits for some sort of collectivism in which people are placed into boxes and made to conform to your standards.
I advocate ECONOMIC COLLECTIVIZATION that wouldn't impede individual liberty and expression not SOCIAL COLLECTIVISM which is authoritarian.
Sorry for my shitty typing. The keyboard's broken.

The Yakuza in Japan have become so troublesome for the government that it has started to cover up their murders, and the Mexican cartel's military strength rivals that of the Mexican government.

Low IQ criminals are the least of our problems.

there already are a ton of abortion clinics in the ghettos, they're barely helping.

The improved public health and reducing poverty would likely have a larger effect. Poor maternal and childhood health has a very significant effect on adult iq.
Access to healthcare in general is very poor in the gettho so birth defects and whatnot aren't found out until way past the point that an abortion can be safely done.

Dumping.

As well, there are elements of Benjamin's Theses which may be inspired by the prophet Elijah, who is a big figure in kabbalah.

Incorrect! Both abortion access and reduction of lead pollution have seen tremendous improvements in crime.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect

American violent crime has actually been rapidly going down for decades. People think crime is increasing, but this conflicts with reality to such a degree that it even has its own name: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_world_syndrome

Simply put, the world sucking less doesn't make good news, but riots in a few city blocks will draw in viewers from thousands of miles away!

The CIA has done the same exact thing in other countries when it comes to capitalism.
Why is this any different?
In fact, cultural capitalism could make for a much better conspiracy if we were so inclined for retardation.

youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

You guys already are that retarded.

archive.is/koNbx

Terrible propaganda vid by 85 IQ point fucknut.

...

...

That's like getting race and IQ data from stormfront.

k, bucko

Sounds like you'd like that, since democracy is what lets the ebul low eye kew people exist.

Even so: danariely.com/

Then you and everyone else from Holla Forums better pack your bags, because you aren't the ubermensch you think you are.

I also notice you still haven't actually rebuked my source, which dismantles the original basis of the theory of African genetic inferiority, only bitching about plucked quotes instead of reading it.

And on top of this, you have yet to even prove how dumb people have no right to live. At the very least, someone's gotta scrub the toilets.

you know maybe I would listen, but I can't hear you over all the creationists.

Who?

I did several times, fucknuts. When those people tired to correct Lynn's studies they still found that Africans had significantly lower IQs.

"HBD" epithet for anyone who disagrees with them. Their community's version of "cuck".

Please forgive me for being ignorant, but what does "HBD" mean?

This

IQ and genetics guy here. I'm an atheist. As someone who believes in evolution I acknowledge the fact that evolution applies to us.

East Asains are not the same as southern Asians. Eastern Europeans are not the same as Western Europeans.

Human beings are a mutualist species though.
We're not subject to the same kind of natural selection that non-mutualist species are, since we don't adapt ourselves to nature, but adapt nature to us.

Actually, the adjusted numbers aren't that significant: southern European and modernized West Asian nations have similar IQs.

The original numbers Lynn proposed were extremely lower, which suggested sub-Saharan Africans were just different, some of the nations being literally retarded on average. Now we know this is an impossibility.

Unless you are willing to say that some whites are actually black. :^)

Oh sorry there was a typo. I mean to say that I would of course believe that in certain areas IQ scores could be lower for the reasons I mentioned above.

We still adapt to our artificial environments as well. One of the reasons Europeans have high IQs is because high IQ was a positive trait in the Neolithic period because of farming and warfare.

Ok sure whatever. I guess the "supremacy" just switches over history for reasons nobody knows.

And adaptive theories for intellectual disparities are completely stupid. Intelligence is, in theory, never not a useful trait, so there is no reason some people would be better at the same thing because their ancestors had different challenges.

I can tell he's bourgie just by looking at him.

Then how do you explain the rapid modernization of Africa? Because its sprawling major cities don't have a non-black majority.
Also see

Every single continent had a neolitic stoneage.
Sure, a lot of africans were still hunter-gatherers in the 19th century, but vast areas had been pastoral just as long as Europe had.

Also, I'd like to add that there is virtually no empirical evidence for hereditary racial IQ differences, despite mountains of evidence of the effects of genetic disease:

people.virginia.edu/~ent3c/papers2/nisbett2012int.pdf

Unless the ex-president of the American Psychological Association is a dirty lying libtard.

Let me also remind you that the neolitic age began 12.000 years ago which is peanuts on an evolutionary scale.

I find it ironic how examples of rural Africa are used to prove their inferiority when surviving in Africa is a fucking worrying prospect. Retards don't survive ebola.

then why are there so many dumb white people inbreeding in the South?

How does IQ effect your immune system?

I guess the Imperial College of London are a bunch of white supremacists
kurzweilai.net/genetic-intelligence-networks-discovered-in-the-brain

Rural living IS part of the solution they adopted, too; the diseases most deadly to humans are the ones that co-evolved in an arms race with the human immune system, and ergo are based in Africa. The catch-22 of Africab civilizations then is that congregating in the kinds of dense urban arrangements necessary to facilitate technological advancement only made them more vulnerable to the human-specific diseases in Africa. Sucks, but them's the breaks.

The climate of the southern US is incredibly lenient and relatively more prone to hosting cultures with less efficient practices.

like southern conservatives?

There have only been white people in the south for 400 years now.
What you're talking about would be super-evolution.
Are you saying that there would natural pressure, towards being stupid? What evolutionary benefit would being stupid have?

You know this is a lost cause, right?

From their counter-industrial plantation economy to their reactionary evangelism, the relative leniency of the fundamental material cost of living in the American south would nourish an inefficient culture long past the best before date. This isn't a biological or evolutionary phenomenon in a direct sense.

Do you actually think this is true?

but there's more evidence that different races have different IQ's than the opposite.

look maw i found a pdf file with lots o fancy names on it, must be immutably true

LMAO
Most Holla Forums users live in places like Montana and have never seen a black person on his entire life.

This thread needs to die

>for hereditary racial IQ differences

Would you stop pretending to know what you are talking about? It's tiring.

This would make culture some kind of deus ex machina.

user, you don't seem to understand our arguments.

Everyone knows that statistical evidence of differences exist. But there is no reason to believe that these differences are genetic.

How does IQ affect your ability to survive being infected with a virus?

except the fact that black children who are adopted by whites still have lower IQs

By avoiding infection and adjusting society to minimize the disease.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study

The last one is especially important because it meshes up well with a mountain of empirical evidence of the effects of malnutrition and disease on cognitive ability. A biological cause is not necessarily a genetic one.

Y'all got nothing that hasn't been discussed before.

While I'm at it, I'd like to point out that there is zero correlation between black American IQ and percentage of European DNA, which all black Americans have to some extent. Because intelligence is highly polygenic, this should not be the case if whites are genetically predisposed to high IQ.

I'm sure the orphanages fed the infants well.

Do you have a single fact to back that up?

Good one.

Yeah, I guess he just risked his life fleeing his diplomatic post, waking up every day knowing that he might be a target for neutralisation by the KGB, to 'make a bit of cash'. Sounds plausible.

First of all, he definitely wasn't getting into the 'good graces of the West'. He was telling them an incredibly uncomfortable truth - that US diplomats, journalists and a generation of children had been swindled - which nobody wanted to hear at the time. 1984 was not a year of McCarthyism whatsoever.

Second of all, Yuri says he was fired by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation for his attitude and broadcasts to the Soviet Union. Fuck me if that is 'getting into good graces'.

Finally - cash. You're retarded if you think his goal was money by defecting. He could have had a fat salary as a bureaucrat, which he turned down for much lower-paying jobs in Canada, like teaching.

The denial is strong.

Obviously nothing is 100% genetic, but this says heritability ranges from 0.4 to 0.8 (100% environment = 0, 100% genetic = 1)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_Science_on_Intelligence

Also, let's just pretend that it is 100% environment. Nothing ever is, but let's just say so.

90% of black kids are still going to be raised by black parents. A significant proportion of them will live in black neighbourhoods and have mainly black friendship groups. Black people are still not going to advance even if it is 100% environment because their environment will also be black.

...

Does he trigger you?

Stopped reading right there, thanks for the giggle m8

Your BS has 2 problems.
A) It's all about 'Murica, right? The world doesn't matter, right? And it's all about patriotism and morals and so on… Right?
B) Why is it that Nato doesn't do THE EXACT SAME THING to the rest of the world? I say it does! I say this whole neoliberalism thing is war against the world from the US. And it is our role to oppose this war.
C) How come then, that the USSR fell, Capitalist are doing more than great and your whole conspiracy theory is baseless? Add to that that in the 80s USSR was ALREADY falling and THERE WAS McCarthyism. It was tha time of Neoliberalism's beginings. Reagan in US, Thatcher in GB.

OFCOURSE YOU NEED A "SOVIET" BOOGIE-MAN!

The whole culture of the 80s 'Murica was about "the soviets are comming!"

Indeed. The denial is strong.

antonio gramsci literally prescribed cultural marxism in his prison notebooks.

He likely legitimately disliked the USSR.

The stuff he says, he's the only source for though, and well… A few embellishments beats driving taxis, right?

Fun fact: Gramsci's theory of cultural hegemony was the exact opposite of "cultural Marxism"

Heh. That's dark.

Statistical heritability is a bit tricky because it varies from person to person: if you are very young and poor, your neurological development is extremely vulnerable, but if you're older and well off you can probably predict it in the long term, barring a nasty head injury. Even traits that are almost completely hereditary, like body height, can have substantial non-genetic influences, usually detrimental; and this is still leaving out recessive genetics, a statistical headache.

Mind you I'm not saying that IQ isn't at all hereditary, I'm saying that the genetics of cognitive ability are not racial. It could just be a defining biological trait of humans in general, or single-gene disorders could cause outliers.

Well… yeah. That's kind of what I was trying to point out. Early environmental explanations failed because idiot liberals cannot into material conditions.

the theory is all about how power works and how revolutionaries can attack prevailing ideas that give credence to power within a society (cultural hegemony). attack the prevailing ideas and install a new ideology, and you will change the base. classical marxists tried too hard to change the base without paying attention to the superstructure. gramsci responded by giving attention to the superstructure and the importance of ideology in revolutionary struggle. this is the whole idea of the frankfurt critical method: critique the values and assumptions that coalesce into ideologies, and make people more willing to entertain revolutionary ideologies that could bring about social change.

I'm aware, but you realize that the Frankfurt School most often attacked growing then-modern cultural and ideological movements, not muh precious Western values right-wingers like the circlejerk around, right?

Like thinking that jazz music was a capitalist degradation of the Western musical tradition promoted to sell records.

...

Don't fuck with Jazz music. It's a legitimate serious and complex style of music that musicians spend hours every day practicing despite that they're going to be poor. It's the only good thing to have come form the US.

You're talking about smooth "Jazz" which isn't jazz at all.

nah they critiqued a lot of ingrained Western values (whether you consider them precious or not) like the family as an institution. reich wrote about how maitriarchy was the only natural family in a "natural society" in the mass psychology of fascism. this links with marx's dislike of the family as an institution that perpetuated oppression because now we have these intellectuals introducing new ideologies/ideas about how families are to be structured. the nuclear family is the cornerstone of western civilization and the frankfurt school knew that to weaken that civilization, they would have to weaken the institutions that support it. this is but one example.

Marx didn't "dislike" the family, but saw it as an institution that was brought about about by relatively recent material conditions. He believed that it would eventually transcend the current problems it faced under capitalism and be replaced by the "holy family", whatever that may be. The point was that capitalism was making family life worse, not that it was inherently a blight.

I have to say it…

I gotta say it…

your post is spooky af, fam.

He liked an institution that he thought perpetuated the ideology of private property and female subordination? marx and engels wrote that the family was a "hypocritically concealed system of wives in common" in the communist manifesto. both wrote about the socializing influence of the family. did marx like capitalism? no. did marx like institutions that socialized people into supporting capitalism? no.

but regardless, it was a target of attack by the frankfurt school in order to bring about cultural change so as to make western society more conducive to marxism. that was the fundamental point i was making regarding the weightiness of cultural marxism as a phenomena that exists, with its intellectual heritage reaching back to gramsci, expanded upon by the frankfurt school, and now widespread throughout the social sciences of the western academies.

doesn't seem to be working too well if that's the case.

One could say that about Marxism in general. That doesn't mean Marxism doesn't exist.

I wish.

thank u, based Adorno :^)

Nature is literally everything around us, of course we are still subject to the same natural selection all other species are. We are 100% dependent on our environment.
If a meteor hits the world and the only things that survive are microscopic organisms then they were more fit for a changing environment and we weren't. If we fuck our environment over then people die: poisoning ground water, destroying soil by not rotating crops, deforesting, etc. If there are no metals we cannot make metal objects, if wood did not exist we would not have wooden tools are structures. Our use of tools and mutalism is simply a buffer, not a complete immunity.

Automatization

He disliked an institution that created a family dynamic that survived by perpetuating said institution. Nuance, fam.

*Bourgeois family*
ftfy

[citation needed]
also, keep in mind the frankfurt school was also critiquing the USSR. It wasn't just the west.

Spook

Except various members of the frankfurt school didn't believe you could change the base like that.
Adorno pretty explicitly stated subversion would not be possible when talking about the culture industry.

-Employ liberal identity politics
-make the proles hate eachother to the point working class solidarity isn't possible anymore.
-???
-suddenly marxism

Correct, jews have higher IQ, and produce higher amount of intellectuals therefore higher percentage of communists and marxsits are jews.

Who's side are you on?

In what?

Are you a liberal or a socialist?

...

Marx hated the family.

youtube.com/watch?v=TyvcNLujUEA

...

I'd fuck Dr. Bielik-Robson.

9/10 qt3.14

Israels average IQ is lower than most Europeans countries. They may have been the smartest a while ago, but inbreeding has taken it's toll.

no, I'm not watching that shit.
Give me cliffnotes.

In fact the vast majority of their critique was aimed at the USSR/Stalinists and Nazis.

The only real critique of "the West" came from Adorno - and if reactionaries actually read Adorno, they'd probably find themselves agreeing with his critique.

We are not talking about Israelis
The average IQ score of Ashkenazi Jews has been calculated to be 112–115 (Cochran et al.),[8] and 107–115 (Murray; Entine).[9][10][11] A study found that Ashkenazi Jews had only mediocre visual-spatial intelligence, while their verbal IQ (which includes verbal reasoning, comprehension, working memory, and mathematical computation) compensated for this with a high median of 125.6.[12][13]

...