WikiLeaks Emails Expose Alcohol Industry’s Paid Campaign to Keep Marijuana Illegal

Yeah, admittingly I've quit cold turkey a few times without any issues. It's less harmful than alchohol.

All the arguments against smoking that were backed by actual science were from studies that found that smoking excessive amounts of weed had deleterious effects on people who were under 18. I smoked a bit, very casually, for 2 years while in college. I'm a person with a lot of willpower it's true, but it wasn't hard. I can tell you honestly that it's a lot less degenerate than alcohol. If you don't like the mental effect then try a brownie, it's more of a body high.

I'm a bit of a movie buff, and the first time I smoked I sat down and rewatched a movie I'd seen countless times: The Sphere. It was so good. I watched American Psycho high soon after that and I was hooked. You just notice different things.

Cannabis is a nigger drug, if you use it on any regular basis you are likely self medicating your child abuse.

Holla Forums is not a board that promits cannabis so can you kindly fuck off

This is a board where we disagree on things, we're not a hugbox, Mrs. Grandin.

-posters whose blood pressure just went up 20 points at the thought somebody might take away their weed

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Weed is for movie and music listening.
And watching various andeluvial videos on youtube, like Carl Munck

Anything else is nigger tier.

what?

Excuse me?

Holla Forums is not one person

There's nothing wrong with weed.

Company I work for does a lot of testing. Me smoking means I could get my shit pushed in.

then watch the movie sober you worthless addict.

I don't think that alcohol is any more or less degenerate than weed, or most other psychoactive substances.

They're tools for altering the state of consciousness of the imbiber. Used correctly, they can ease social interactions, provide added insight during contemplation, or make otherwise monotonous tasks enjoyable.

Unfortunately, media glorifies, and even advocates, the misuse of such substances. Such misuse lines the pockets of merchants with coin, and it keeps people politically inactive.

Everyone has their own brain chemistry that reacts to drugs differently.

Weed makes me enter maximum autism where I can barely communicate with other people and just want to be alone until it wears off.

Alcohol makes me feel like Donald Trump, I become a charismatic alpha.

I think it's like this for the majority of white people, which is why our culture has overwhelmingly embraced alcohol as the leisure drug of choice.

It's just low-tier bait and another one of those things that's surprisingly easy to virtue signal about on Holla Forums.

Everybody has a vice, but if you're upset by idiots on the internet using >memearrows about your habits you might want to look at 'em too.

Pathetic stoners disgust me.

NO DRUGS, NO CIGARETTES, NO ALCOHOL

I rest my case.

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In the short-term, it's about as bad as using alcohol. In the long-term, it reduces IQ and short-term memory.

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Doesn't surprise me at all. Alcohol has a monopoly on legal ways to get messed up right now (there are others but they can be dangerous) of course they want to keep it.

I'm willing to bet a lot of people would pick pot over booze as their drug of choice if both were legal.

Since alcohol is a carcinogen and weed isn't, it's literally more degenerate than weed. There's a way to be responsible with your drug using, and pretending like all drug use leads to niggerdom means you yourself are a nigger with no self control. I don't enjoy having to limit myself because niggers ruin everything they touch with their reverse-Midas touch.

Is there no person who smokes weed who isn't a stoner? Do I turn into Seth Rogen as soon as I light a blunt?

so free watermeluns? SHHHIIEEEETTT

Yes

dude weed lamo

Weed is counterproductive, it just makes you sit on your ass all day!

t. internet addict who sits on his ass all day.

I enjoy bud as a focusing agent, but of course most people here would never believe that it's possible to consume substances without them controlling you. Their loss if you ask me.

Marijuana helps me enjoy my normie job which can be very tedious, puts my FPS skills at top notch, and let's me immerse myself in a story to a much greater degree; be it a game, novel, film, or epic poem. It also makes the sweltering Midwest summers much easier to bear.

I've been smoking since I was a teenager, and still outperform my older peers by a significant margin professionally. This is largely because of my strong social skills, which were developed over years of smoking with other people and debating different types of people on all sorts of philosophical and political truths. Weed opens up normies to discuss topics they normally stay far away from. It has been a tool for me to force feed red pills to people for years now.

That doesn't even cover the numerous proven medical uses; which can be healthfully accessed via vaporization, tinctures, or edibles.

Sadly degenerate jew media has created the "stoner" memes and culture to co-opt a potentially useful substance and group of anti-establishment people's. Primarily this is done through promoting substance abuse, which of course is what these other user's are warning about. If you're a weak willed cretin you can and will be controlled by your substance use.

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I'm not so certain of this. I think that a fair number of people would consume both, as a fair number already do.

Though what gets me is that several of these alcohol companies would be capable of getting in on the ground floor of the legal marijuana market very quickly. Bacardi, Jack, et cetera undoubtedly have the land and liquid assets necessary for such a venture.

Weed doesn't make you do anything, or are you one of those tools who denies free will?

Yes.

Then you have no objectivity

So I assume you only vape and eat edibles? Because otherwise you are a retard if you think that shit will not give you cancer.

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dude

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The sheer depth of shitposting these threads attracts tends to make me think there are shills about, whether paid or personally invested.

Holla Forums is never this bad, not even in religion threads. This is Holla Forums-tier posting.

Open mindedness is not useful with ideals that are harmful to the National Socialist interest.

Are you objective about muslims living in your country?

I do ~2 month on/off cycles of daily smoking (~2 hits at night after lifting/before free time)

I have been obsessively scrutinizing myself for the differences

and literally the ONLY difference I see is a slight brain fog for an hour in the morning when I smoke

no effect on my job performance (STEM PhD) or lifting

weed

This board is fucking DEAD.

I'm not sure what to make of the fact that all the smartest people I know are habitual users. World-class programmers, a couple biologists, etc.

There is a Jewish agenda to promote drugs that lower mental capacity. That is why weed is promoted as 'cool' by the media at every turn they get.

I know marijuana was used by traditional cultures long before the kike reared its head, but their use was not DUDE WEED SMOKE EVERYDAY!!! XDDD.

I won't go into the science of weed providing a cancer fighting boon to your body through cannabidiol ingestion, but yes you can buy small hand-vapes or the larger variety. I have neither since, as I said, I've been forced to give up smoking because of stigma and work.

I am objective about Muslims. I objectively think their culture is incompatible with mine.

As if people didn't know already… at least now there's proof.

I'm not denying that, but the response it gets here is analogous to the board becoming hostile to the idea of a TV because of what's on it.

I've known stoners from every strata of social and educational class. I've never seen it ruin anyone. The successful are still successful, the losers are still losers. The successful ones are just also smart enough to not get caught, and are therefore seen as the kind of people who are above illicit drug usage. Saying they're successful because they avoided marijuana is mixing up the timeline: They're successful enough in all things that they don't fuck up their use of marijuana and get caught. Lawyers, engineers, architects, mathematicians, etc etc etc. The one thing they have in common is that they were successful -before- they smoked.

That said, I don't think developing brains should be near the stuff.

its because when you spend all day thinking hard, being able to turn your brain off and be easily amused is the perfect form of relaxation

And all of the dumbest people I know, smoke weed. 99% of niggers, smoke weed. I'm pretty certain that weed isn't responsible for the talents your friends exhibit. Nigger run inner cities aren't known for being wellsprings of intellectualism.

There are intelligent people who gamble clinging to beliefs in runs, and divine intervention.

Cannabis can't give you any creativity that isn't in your mind already, that's breaking the law of thermodynamics. It's solely for focus, helps your brain analyze in depth. For example when I read a book while under the effects I sometimes stop at a word that seems interesting, then I think of the definition, that then splinters off into thinking of the definition of each of the words of the definition of the base word. Eventually I have to step my way backwards through all the mental burrows I crawled into.

oh Holla Forums

Correct.

Oh I certainly have. When people with poor willpower and lacking motivation start using it, they can easily degenerate into a wasteful state.

Right, no one is doubting you have, but why should I be regulated from doing something that I enjoy because others are complete wastes of life? That's akin to pushing for gun control because niggers also can't handle guns without shooting them at school yards.

people with poor willpower and lacking motivation

Those people are fucked regardless. I know some, one is hooked one pot and another is hooked on MMOs. The weak will always find something to lose themselves in.

Because free will and unbridled liberalism lead to a degenerate society. For most things we regulate, we could find someone responsible enough not to require the regulation.

Guns have a useful purpose, but I believe they should be HIGHLY regulated too. Only permitted to those people who are of sound minds who complete training and necessary testing.

lay off the weed, pal.

ebin

Ok, science Jew.

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Weed has a $20 entry fee for participation, and is less of a gamble for people with no real careers to lose. That dumb people more commonly do it doesn't mean it makes you dumb.

People have already made this point for me, but

Sorry, could you repeat that for me? My Sluggish Schizophrenia was acting up.

Trump needs to support decriminalizing marijuana at the federal level. Let each state decide to outlaw or tax it. He does that and he will win by a landslide. The Bernouts will actively fight for him. Hillary will be done. Election over.

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That's pretty much his position, except he qualifies it with "medical marijuana".

I do not want niggers running around with guns. I don't give a fuck about the Second Amendment argument, I do not believe that applies to blacks.

Weed is a nigger-tier drug, just as alcohol.

Try MDMA, LSD or mushrooms, not only are they harmless, they actually improve you.

Cocaine too, except it has an enormous potential for addiction. Otherwise it would be the perfect drug.

absolute moron

MDMA is not harmless and if anything it is THE faggot drug

LITERALLY THIS

you cannot argue with this unless you are a statist like

stupid people will fuck themselves with weed
smart people can use it without problem

my dumbass alcoholic normie roommate uses weed and is a waste of space
many of my PhD student colleagues also use it regularly and are very successful

people like only know useless degenerates, probably because they aren't smart themselves

I, living in Florida, have known exactly 12 niggers with guns.

One of them was legally purchased. One.

STONERS LISTEN

I do not give a fuck ok? All of you degenerate sons of whores need to die the death. Do you understand me? I will fucking kill you. Fuck you homosexual bastards with your weed and drugs. You get caught you die. Still want to try your luck gay boy?

Vaping means no combustion.

I like MDMA (real stuff) and weed. LSD I didn't like, mushrooms were okay.

It's actually being given to soldiers with PTSD and it soothes their symptoms a lot. It's being considered being given a pharma name and prescribed.

And?

if you didn't like LSD, you probably took "LSD"

Yes it has therapeutic potential and all that but to say it's harmless is a dubious statement. It has addictive potential and is known to be neurotoxic

Daily reminder.

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Alright guys, you all think I'm crazy but I'll tell you something else.
If you do enough psychedelics you will gain psychic powers.
Tryptamines will give you these powers faster if you ingest them every day. I'd recommend some research chemicals, but I don't want the one I'm heavily abusing to be banned because some of you aren't hardcore enough to take it.
That being said, the holocaust never happened.

Kill all potheads.
Burn all pot plants.
Shame all degenerates.

Reported.

Yes, and a National Socialist to be specific. Single issue lolbergs like yourself are an embarrassment, and never forget, that your spiritual homeland is Somalia.

You read "End the Fed", reached the zenith of your intellectual achievements and decided it qualified you to make such statements, isn't that right?

Doesn't surprise me at all. Liquor companies are operating as the only legal drug in a Prohibition state.

It always makes me laugh seeing people get so butthurt over weed, especially Holla Forums.

Like any drug, it can be enjoyed with moderation and control. It's only a nigger drug because niggers don't have any self control.

Sell it, tax it, dedicate the vice tax to fixing roads and infrastructure. That's what I'd do, as it's seemed to work out pretty well for the places that have legalized so far.

If you don't want to smoke it, don't. If you do, know your limits. It's no different than alcohol.

A lot of the harm from ""MDMA"" comes from derivatives like MDEA. I knew a guy who made the stuff. He showed me how to test (acid tests are cheap, on Amazon too IIRC). Most of the shit they sell around is antifreeze crystals or whatever other shit they can find.

All drugs are harmful to some degree, that's why overdosing is a thing. Then again, you can overdose on water too, but that's being a bit facetious.

Possibly. It was just too strong for me, whatever I took.

Okay Holla Forums.

Unless you're making cannabis tea, there is combustion. It won't filter water-soluble combustion products, either.
It also means being a faggot hipster.

pic related

Do you really not understand the difference between vaporization and combustion?

ebin

Spotted the autists.

Reported. Get the fuck off the pot.

Reported for degenerate.

NO!

NO LOGIC ALLOWED!

BURN THE POTHEADS REEEEEEEEE!

Nixon was right about so many things, but abandoning the gold standard for the Petrodollar was as good goy as you can get. Not sure why he trusted Kissinger as much as he did, either.

Weed is nowhere near as harmful as alcohol. Not even close.

The world is filled with losers in their middle ages with no motivation who have accomplished nothing and never touched drugs.

Everyone makes at least one mistake. For Reagan it was amnesty. For Nixon it was not just reverting Bretton Woods entirely.

For Hitler it was not actually committing a genocide on jews.

same thing as degeneracy: it literally means "anything I don't like"

Not saying the current situation is better, but the gold standard has always been pure kikery.

The real "Reagan mistake" was Hinckley missing.

smoked 2 years, didnt hinder getting my Bsc in Mechanical Engineering, quit cold turkey.

If you smoke after you've done your tasks of the day, it has not a single negative effect on you. If you just stick to that, you are not becomming a lazey faggot at all.

The only mention worthy thing is that I was 19 the first time I smoked it.

Besides weed legalisation, I want hemp to be sown and grown everywhere to use it for the literally hundreds of industries it can be used for, I am especially autistic about this because of my Engineering and tech-background, you can use it for almost EVERY SINGLE petroleum industry and get the same products out of it, including energy production(Bio-diesel, pellets for buring, bio-ethanol).

well I fall into the "pro" side of this argument, and I'd define a "vice" as an activity undertaken purely for enjoyment/relaxation which has potential deleterious effects

something which has both pros and cons, but is not necessary for your life, only wanted for enjoyment

I agree, I despise goldbugs with a passion; I just think the petrodollar was the catalyst for the implementation of NeoCon foreign policy. Additionally, I believe the petrodollar is the key to sustaining jewish global hegemony.

Kill yourself, degenerate.

alcohol fucks your liver but marijuana fucks you brain and turns you into a boring piece of shit that cant put a single thought together and needs marijuana to do basic things like watch a fucking movie

kill yourself pothead

kek some more quality rational arguments from your local internet puritans

That is exactly how he would say it.

Is 4chin down or something?
Or are we being raided by leftists?

Stoners and fucking degens get out.

Not my fault if you're a stuck up christfag. It's all in moderation and self rewarding.

Interesting, I didn't know.
But it doesn't surprise me.
Anyway, have a bump.

There is literally nothing wrong with drugs.

LEGALIZE NUTMEG

the "alt-right" has started to purge its autists

people like you will need to start a new movement soon

Yes there are but the black-and-white mentality underage/autists ITT can't into thinking.

Top tier thread today Holla Forums, really top teir.

DEGENERATE REEEEE

"THINKING" IS JUST JEW WEED TELLING YOU LIES

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well tbh its a pretty important issue and the new right has kind of pussyfooted around discussing it

most of the "leaders" and e-celebs too old and have kids and no time for such luxuries

but the rank-and-file are 20-something males for whom it is a very relevant discussion

Psh, I already do stuff like that without weed

willing to bet im more succesful than you, and than you willl ever be.

fucking peasant.

I used to smoke 1 cigarette a week (some months, others not).
Does that make me a smoker?
Trump drank champagne at social settings (probably his wedding and others).
Is he an alcoholic?
Same with weed.

You morals fags can't even ride a cat let alone a tiger.

The people who talk about DUDE WEED all the time are no more likely to have been brilliant thinkers if they hadn't been introduced to the drug than not.
There's nothing inherently bad about many recreational drugs; some people just cannot behave responsibly and want to blame their inadequacies on something that doesn't have sentience.

(full disclosure: I personally hate weed and my favorite drug is desoxyn)

Why do you guys take any drugs? I took lsd once and it turned me off completely.

The alcahol industry is largely white. All of the breweries and wineries are all owned by white men in my county and I believe this is the way it is almost everywhere else. If pot is legalized it would be nothing but cheap Mexicans growing the shit.

Remind me user. How this is a bad thing?

To modulate neuroreceptors

But more generically, you would take recreational psychoactive drugs to modify your perception of reality and/or modify your mental state.
Whether the change is good or bad, that depends.

Hops are filled to the brim with estrogens which makes you grow manboobs, so you're limited to hard liquor which you can only enjoy in very limited quantities before you fuck your liver up. All the 'brewries' we have stateside produce over-hopped IPA trash who can't produce a pleasant flavor profile if their life depended on it so they just nuke it with bitter hops.

I would like to also add, that the prison industrial complex makes a lot of money for our country and jails more blacks than any other race.

REMIND ME HOW THIS IS A BAD THING OP!!!

Makes money for our country? Explain?

As far as I can tell the prison system is:

Taxpayer funds go to pay for negroes to stay at the gray bar hotel and the profits of jailing these animals go to corporate kikes. I'm not lamenting niggers off the streets but it's not without exorbitant cost.

That is why I drink beer with less hopps. I am a brewer actually, I know this. Moderation never hurt anyone with beer, mead, wine, likker. In fact in less you are a hipster faggot and drink nothing but IPAs the amount of estrogen in a beer is so minimal it has no effect at all. It is a trace amount.

That is state and federal prison. Right now in my state at least…and most these are private prisons. Privately own, and while they do get some tax credits, the decline in criminal violence, robberies, and black on white violence decreases.

This means

really it is a win, win, win

make PUBLIC smoking of pot illegal

its not like they're raiding niggers out of their homes for it anyways

No, the war on drugs is a good thing. Less niggers on the streets.

We had 6 raids on my town this year that have all been pot.

If you read into any bhuddist philosophy you wouldn't take any drugs at all. Including Christianity.

Yeah, and I enjoy a good bear now and again, but weed has none of those externalities you listed but I'm to believe that it's the devil because the government tells me so. I have tried both, weed is a lot more natural for your body since your body already produces endocannabinoids which is why the drug has any effect on you at all.

I enjoy lagers almost exclusively however.

Private prisons cost the taxpayer even more money. It's a fucking racket. I don't think people should be jailed for marijuana possession, but that's me. Your argument is just a bandaid when the real solution should be deportations or segregations. Niggers commit plenty of the other crimes to hit them with three strikes with, no need to have taxpayers fund people getting felonies where they aren't able to get a job afterwards. People that go to prison become better criminals, not better people.

Distributors.

this

i want niggers to be gone from my society completely

not used as a destructive infinite human money farm for prison industry jews

In Funland (in which "they" grew "own" kind of strain - actually a tree - called Ruderalis). Which was forbidden to grow in the early 1900's by "flipping a coin", or so it sees in the pulbic.

The fact is that the alcohol industry is predominantly white owned. I have never been to a vineyard, a fucking brewery, a distillery owned by a minority. I have smoked weed…meh. It is a nigger tier drug that makes you fucking lazy, slow, stupid and hungry. This would ultimately decrease productivity in an already declining producing country, it would give more jobs to minorities, and illicit more illegal immigration. (I know farmers and they hire all illigals.)

If you really like your weed faggots…stop being pussies and do it illegally, but to expect an industry to bow down to a new market when it is one of the last white owned industries left…is full on cuckery, and you should not expect it. It is called capitalism. Deal with it Marxist hippie faggots.

Including all of the white jailers and such they hire, the commecary, and so forth I have a hard time believing this. If you give me some statistics that aren't pozzed I will agree with you.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3800090/

The known potent phytoestrogen in hops is 8-Prenylnaringenin and the amounts that have any kind of estrogenic activity are on the order of 20mg/kg body weight

Even the most hopped beer would probably contain less than a thousandth of this amount.

Do you enjoy to crack them in half too?

this.

And you say that weed is the vice that makes holes in your brain? Just because you don't enjoy the effects of weed and can't imagine being productive on it, doesn't mean that others can't. I find my programming to be improved when I smoke, which could be mental but then again so is the courage portion of alcohol's nickname 'liquid courage'.

Who invited this infowars drone?

I'm glad someone spotted it.

you literally support a parasitical class of jew lawyers and businessmen who farm stupid niggers for government bux

billions upon billions spent cycling nigs into and out of holding pens

"white jailers" etc are fucking illiterate trash who don't deserve their race

my mom works as a doctor in one of these holes, and they are the biggest fucking shit scam on the planet

using taxpayer money to turn dumb drughead niggers into violent trained criminals so they can get arrested again and fuel the system

If anyone is a white nigger it is you. You are cucked by their culture. Brainwashed by nigger music as a young child to smoke the herbal jew.

Look,

I know jailers, they all graduated high school. The fact is a job is a job right now. There aren't many. Jobs fore white men that include health insurance and a 401k, but that is one of them. It is also a necessary job.

Herodotus has written about the Scythians smoking weed daily almost two thousand years ago. Europeans themselves have enjoyed nature's bounties since time immemorial. Homer wrote about the Greeks enjoying opium in his Iliad, yet I'm to pretend like niggers have a monopoly on enjoying drugs. Nope, only the drugs that puritanical burgers deem okay must be the only ones that one consumes because reasons.

I know jailers too, fat, lazy has-beens that played football and never did anything else with their lives. They are the type of person who live in a constant state of nostalgia because their best years are behind them because they have no sense of time horizons, yet this human dreck is who I'm supposed to prop up with my tax payer dollars. No thanks. Europeans have a lower quartile too.

I've smoked weed for a very long time. Drank and messed with other shit too.
It's a crutch. I quit in January this year and I feel clear headed. Less lazy. I had been slacking on my reading and lifting for a long time as well. It would distract me and I'd just play vidya or watch TV. Quitting it was the best decision I've made in a long time. You don't need to smoke weed anymore than you need to drink alcohol. It does nothing for you except get you high.
Those medicinal effects can be extracted without leaving the user high as a kite. The original lobbiers for it in Colorado made this their main platform. But both pharmaceutical companies, cuckservatives, and DUDE WEED LMAO types all made sure no one heard that.
Put down the glass. Take a deep breathe (your lungs are black as smoking tobacco) and look at life sober. Without needing a constant release of dopamine just to function. You get that same feeling from working hard. Learning new things. Acquiring new skills. I've become so much more active I can think faster and I've been exercising like no tomorrow. I also have more money to spare and have just bought a new shotgun and stocking up ammo.
I implore my fellow anons on Holla Forums to quit the habit. You are using it as a crutch and you will be so much more without it clouding your brain.

If you needed your weed money to buy a shotgun then you're a poorfag. Only losers let drugs interfere with their life, yet you pretend we all use it as a 'crutch'.

you are a fucking shill man. How much is OTR paying you?

Sounds like you know shitty people. To assume everyone is like this is the same mentality the niggers have towards police.

how often did you smoke though?

also
i smoke + do all those other things too
i only smoke during time i wouldn't be doing useful things (the 2hr before bed)

God forbid that a business does not want to employ pot smokers.

god forbid a business hire/fire based on actual performance instead of puritanical obsessions with what people do in their free time

Fucking this. You think Trump got where he was just "feeling good" at the end of ever day? What about the original hero Uncle Adolf? He implored all of his comrades to kick their smoking and drinking.
Man I have seen so many people I know end up in shit-heaps because they won't quit fucking smoking. They won't even think about it.
YOU WON'T HAVE ONE IF ALL YOU DO IS FUCKING SMOKE. You won't try to strive ahead because then you won't be able to smoke anymore. You have to stop smoking before you can even begin improving yourself.

It's CTR, something you would have known if you didn't have so many holes in your brain from alcohol. Your argument is that I should want to pay for niggers in jail simply because it keeps retarded whites in a job. No thanks, they can rake some yards instead.

If I was high at work? Fire my ass. Why should a company get a say in what I do in my free time though? They already own my ass enough.

I quit when I received my first job offer and they gave me plenty of heads up that a test was coming.

Look at this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_fallacy
You're already on Holla Forums. So you are probably smarter than the average normie and are able to control yourself. But do you think Chad and Tiffany can think that far ahead? Could control themselves? Drug use overall has increased vastly in the US and look where we are. Almost 1934 levels of degeneracy if we haven't passed it yet. Weed is fucking legal in our nations capital now, but illegal in the surrounding states. It's disgraceful.

Weed is good. Plain and simple. I'm not saying its good for everyone, but it has many positive uses. People who say medical marijuana is a farce are shills with no experience. These cop-tier cucks saying potheads are degenerates are most likely either sheltered or nerds who were picked on in high school. When I was in college it was really easy to pick out the criminal justice people because they were all autistic and couldn't into anything better. Aside from alcohol, the prison industrial complex is the main lobbyist against weed. Weed is great for the environment (when grown outdoors responsibly) and hemp is a great underutilized resource that was long ago BTFO by oil and textile jews. Henry Ford was well aware of that when he was building prototype cars out of hemp plastics way back then. That whole herbal jew, not even once meme is backward autism at its finest. The only thing good about marijuana criminalization is its discriminatory enforcement.

Honestly this fam. If you were to tell me you can smoke weed 'responsibly' and not let it hinder your search for knowledge and fitness, I'd call you a flagrant liar. The shit makes you a damn sloth, it's a subtle evil.

I quit a few months ago and I feel great. I encourage this to anyone willing to listen.

It's called a dictionary dumbass, look it up.

Using your example, Chad shoots Tiffany in the head because she got caught sucking Jamal's dick. Is that an argument for gun control or are these argument useless fluff anecdotes that avoid the philosophy we should be arguing instead?

so much wrong with this post

comparing standards for leaders of nations to average people is retarded
of course a small subset of the topmost ambitious and driven people will have no time for recreation
however, I have no intention of becoming a trump or hitler

trying to deprive populations of their means for recreation/relaxation is a waste of time, counterproductive, and will always fail

You can do that without getting high.

I knew it was CTR, fucking typo. No you don't understand my argument. The niggers being in prison is just a pro imo.

Let me clarify my point a little better.

The alcohol business is primarily white. The marijuana business is not. I don't see how the alcohol business passing legislation to stop a new market that can threaten their business model is a bad thing as the article suggests. This is called capitalism, this is actually something America is founded on. You edgy "Dude Weed lmao XDDD" fags that identify that this is a Greek Tragedy, are actually progressive Marxists and you don't even realize it.

But statics would probe what you just said wrong.
Not so with weed friendo.

>OTR

have a look at your keyboard mate and explain

don't be a fag and argue about typos

he makes plenty of other mistakes

Would you care to refute his points then?

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I slipped and never proof read..not hard to explain. Are you going to focus on something as menial as that now, because you can't rebuttal my point?

Yeah, this is my second language and I am still learning.

Marijuana prohibition gives a bunch of money to border jumping spics and niggers. Where it is legal, it gives good jobs to whites with clean records. Supporting prohibition is supporting border-jumping, violent spic gangs.

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well i can so…

turns out there's a part of my day at the end where i WANT to be a damn sloth

also I've been off for stretches many times before - I'm well aware of the differences

Solution

Build wall

Apply yourself, fam.

Why, it says right here on page one of The Wealth of Nations! How did I miss that all these years!?

Not at all was just curious, if its a second language you're doing alright, y'all niggas so hostile itt

I don't care if the business is white or not. The colorado weed industry is remarkably european, and that's nothing to say of Amsterdam proper. That has nothing to do with the fact that it's stupid that I must fear for my job for enjoying the vice of my choice while drinking remains A-okay because kikes enjoy taxing it.

I just gave you a couple example of ancient European usage of drugs yet you can do nothing other than set up strawmans. I think we can all see which drugs has more effects on the brain.

I don't think you understand the argument.

Been hostile lately, because it seems there are so many fucking jews in here as olf late. I am sorry fam.

is not an argument worth refuting

No capitalism is the right to profit. All I am saying is to lobby and stop a new market is legal, and is no Greek Tragedy.

Here's something interesting
denverpost.com/2016/02/17/marijuana-legalization-unlikely-to-blame-for-denver-crime-increase/
fool.com/investing/general/2015/11/21/crime-rates-are-soaring-in-seattle-and-denver-is-m.aspx

Jobs are good, especially when they are white owned and you fucking know it.

You argue with the logic of a small child. I know a seven year old girl who can have deeper discussions.

Sounds like defeat to me

Do you? Statics would show that your little anecdote is small drop in a large sea of responsible gun owners. But if we look at who uses weed and what they do well…

Have fun working retail forever

a bloated monopolistic industry using nepotism and corruption to stamp out a more efficient, less destructive alternative is not any sort of capitalism i want to be a part of

you jew

it's all good fam, carry on with your arguments, having a good time reading both sides

Oh, how is that? Be specific. I want to know. Don't just throw out blanket statements and expect me to learn how to argue in English on my own.

It is not Jews that run this industry. White American families. and they are using the jews tactics to beat the jew.

whites who use jew tactics can go fuck themselves

they're equally culpable for our problems

Fucking good. They did something right.

Now if we can just get rid of alcohol and teach people how to deal with their shitty problems instead of being dependent on stuff that makes them retarded.

Holy shit, Prussian Blue a byproduct of zyklon B??? Are they shitting me?

Fucking idiots.

The legalization of marijuana is backed by Jews to make the white productive man Slow Stupid and Hungry.

washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/2/billionaire-george-soros-turns-cash-into-legalized/

What can you possibly mean by the "right to profit"? You have the right to attempt to earn profit, but not the explicit right to profit.

Also, you're arguing from legality, rather than what should be. Should the timber industry lobby to outlaw brick manufacturing because people living in brick houses threatens the market for wood houses? Certainly the outlawing of bricks would be legal because the government writes a law, but do you think that it is just? Or should consumers be allowed to choose for themselves, depending on their various preferences?

Finally, on topic: The original article involves lobbying based on a false premise that marijuana increases traffic deaths substantially, when the data don't support that conclusion, and alcohol is still far more dangerous on almost every metric I can imagine.

The lobbying itself is based on lies, goonlord.

Again you misunderstand my argument. I'm pro-gun in my example. I'm saying that just because Chad and Tiffany can misuse [guns/drugs] doesn't mean that we should regulate based on their specific behavior. We should regulate it based on the basis of the assumption that the average consumer won't be a fucking moron with that responsibility. Niggers misuse guns just as much as they misuse drugs, but only drugs are regulated in that way because of cryptokike """whites""". I'm not arguing in favor of gun control in this scenario, simply an understanding that we legislate against soft drugs like weed based on weed paranoia instilled in the society by corporate interests.

Here is another one just for you. I got more sources.

rt.com/usa/soros-mpp-times-marijuana-189/

So who uses weed the most?
drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/what-scope-marijuana-use-in-united-states
Should a child or adolescent, whose brain and body are still developing, really be exposed to and told that weed is ok? But hey man it's fine look the TV and those college people all say it's ok!
drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/international-statistics.html
I recall another small population of people pushing for their degenerate lifestyle to be considered normal.

re-read what I said
And we have a LOT of gun owners in the states. But lookie here

Weeds users are only less than 4% of the world population and yet they seem to be connected to a lot of other crime other than weed.

DUDE WEED LMAO

If it were regulated like alcohol then that'd be different. When the middle schoolers can go to Jamal or Pedro down the street for their fix of stems and seeds, it's obvious that minorities would sell to a toddler if they were presented the opportunity. Your argument rests upon stilts. I never argued for underage usage of weed. Another strawman from Mr. Subhuman-tier-IQ.

alcoholandcrime.org/issues/alcohol-and-crime/
bum bum bummm

Here's another one for the road kike
ncadd.org/about-addiction/alcohol-drugs-and-crime

Do you have an argument or are you just going to spam links in an attempt to appear as if you had something to say?

Here is your knee-jerk, automatic. guilt by association George Soros hate post:
FUCKING KIKE, REEEEEEEEEE!

Now please refute the points I presented. Or if you prefer, post another article accompanied by something resembling a cogent argument as to why well established industries should be able to strong arm smaller, less-developed industries that have fewer Jewish lawyers and lobbyists.

You need to put down the glass user.

Research surveys have found that:

5.3 million adults − 36% of those under correctional supervision at the time − were drinking at the time of their conviction offense
40% of state prisoners convicted of violent crimes were under the influence of alcohol at the time of their offense − the more violent the crime, the greater the likelihood that alcohol was involved
25% of state prisoners given a standard questionnaire to screen for alcoholism tested positive

Our nation’s prison population has exploded beyond capacity and most inmates are in prison, in large part, because of substance abuse:

80% of offenders abuse drugs or alcohol.
Nearly 50% of jail and prison inmates are clinically addicted.
Approximately 60% of individuals arrested for most types of crimes test positive for illegal drugs at arrest.

Even I was never that lazy when I smoked. Okay, maybe I was.

Who fucking cares no industry or corporation should be strong arming legislation anyway. Two vices fighting for which one you'll pay for oh boy what a choice.

Shit I messed up.

was to

was to

Fuck off lolberg

Hey scatterbrain, try calming down before pressing the reply button. Now sort through your post and thoughts before subjecting me to your mind vomit.

That sure is some refutation of my points.
Let me restate them for you:
Then I posted sources backing up my claims. You just keep using fallacy after fallacy with no sources, no statics. Nothing but your feefees.

Except 'degenerate' in this context is used solely as a word that means nothing since it is used colloquially as 'thing I don't agree with'. If the only people you know that smoke weed are degenerates then you must only be surrounded by human refuse. All of the guys I knew that went to top 5 law schools were avid pot smokers for many of the same reasons I became one.

Crime follows weed because it's still illegal and thus only pedros/jamal on the corner fighting for turf will be involved in other crimes. Alcohol, in full legality, still causes a myriad of social issues, most notably DWI's that ruin people's lives. Weed at most will make you skip a meal because you were too in your head.

Also you keep saying statics as if you're talking about physics. It's statistics.

The (legal) choices available as it currently stands:
1) Drink Alcohol
2) Abstain from alcohol

With legalization your choices would be:
1) Drink alcohol
2) Smoke weed
3) Abstain from either

Do you favor full prohibition of all drugs? If so, why not? What if marijuana production was performed exclusively by hWhites? You are probably a dumbass without any help from drugs, but did Prohibition of alcohol make crime and drinking go down? Or did it enable mobsters like Al Capone to murder, rob, racketeer, and corrupt because people still wanted to drink, EVEN IF IT WAS ILLEGAL?

Here's another hot link, shit-for-wits.
alcoholproblemsandsolutions.org/deaths-during-prohibition-government-poisoned-alcohol-to-stop-drinking/

Look at that anecdote and those sources!
At least that's one thing we can agree on
DING DING DING that's the answer fuckwit. No responsible hard working adult uses weed. It's all teenagers, college kids, and niggers. Look back at one of my sources here drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/international-statistics.html
Well it was great debating you but you still don't have a source in any of your posts. And now you ignore statistics. Filtered.

DUDE WEED LMAOS

We should all vote for who ever promises to make these magic leafs legal, who cares what else hes going to do as long as we have our fiend leafs LMAO.

I can imagine your paper hat from here.

I have many friends working in finance and insurance, all extreme potheads. They put me to shame. But no, we must limit ourselves because lower quartile pondscum such as you and your social circle.

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sage

Kill yourself, degenerate.

Kill yourself, degenerate.

Kill yourself, degenerate.

Can confirm, weed chess is very fun. I had one game take me 3 hours.

I advocate that no one needs drugs to get through life (baring medicine).

I am no lawyer or psychologist, but prohibition was done terribly. It just banned alcohol with no plan in place to deal with the back lash.
Try reading this to get a better idea of why it was enacted and why it failed. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1470475/

dude weed lmao 420 blaze it fagget

For a year, chess was the only board game I owned, and I didn't have a TV. Bong and chess was literally the only option for entertainment in my apartment. Good times… especially the trash talk.

I ain't clicking this shit nigga

Then you are willfully ignorant.

I won 90% of my games so my friends got upset with my trash talking. They were all chem E majors so it really hit them in the ego when I would rape them so hard. I even gave them a take back turn every game.

Meth not even once.

found the government shill tbh fam

Haha, my friend and I were more evenly matched, but still good fun. Whenever on of us tried to renege on one of our moves, we would call the other a…

Renigger

Tfw always get raped by computers but usually demolish people in person

Where can I find a middle ground? I'm thinking about learning some good intros as that's probably the weakest part of my game. Computers are so fucking brutal.

What fool would think that people would drink less beer if weed was legal?

King's Pawn + mobilizing at least one knight gave me the most consistent results as White. Sicilian defense is pretty much the objectively best response to this, if you believe Kasparov.

chess. com/play/computer
I would just put on Coach mode, so it tells you what the most optimal move is mathematically after each turn, so you recognize new things, then try to increase the difficulty. I went up to 6 I believe. Chess at higher levels eventually becomes a memorization game of opening moves going out 10 to 15 turns, which takes the fun out in my opinion.

remember to sage this dead thread

Thx fam. Yeah I think the math makes it out so that there's only ~12 trillion trillion board positions or something crazy like that but that chess will be a 'solved' game eventually when computing catches up with that scale.

He was also receiving regular oxycodone shots from his doctor.

It's already been solved, a long time ago the Chess you play has difficulty options which is how gimped the computer is. The real money is on other games like Go.

crutch, handicap, weakness.

Also, guilty pleasure, or harmful pleasure.

And? That's a good thing

All those problem you listed stem from the illegality of cannabis, not its consumption.

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My nigga. Most people who hate pot just base their hate on the stereotypical stoner who makes their whole life revolve around weed.

They don't realize that humble weed users hate those faggots too.

The way I see it is not everyone is like me. Drugs effect everyone differently. If it effects you like a normie and you just haze out then you should not at all use it every day. If you're someone like me and it acts as a medicine, correcting an imbalance in your brains chemistry, then there's nothing different from smoking weed daily than taking a prescribed pill for depression daily. Aside from the weed being less harmful to my system than the pill cocktail I had tried earlier in my life. It helps me be a better person but I know for sure it is not the case for everyone. Just because I am not a degenerate does not mean degenerates do not exist.

Come on now you summerfags, you never watch and pay attention to the propaganda Hollywood puts out? You know who owns Hollywood? Think, why they are pushing weed down your throat in comedies, as the funniest substance around?

Fuck, thinlk for a fucking second beyond yourself. You all claim to be red-pilled. And still fall for the easiest traps there is.

A degenerate is one who is willfully, accepting to lower himself and his state of living and mind, only for the reason of experience pleasures.

Hence why weed is never a trancendental experience, neither is any drug of that matter. It's all just a way to distort your mind so you don't have to experience the world and life in itself. Using drugs to highten life, is anti-mindfullness. It's degeneracy.

This happened with MDA in england. No one was buying booze and rolling tits off it then alcohol industry helped ban it. Then a research chemical known as MDMA with similar effects came out as a legal alternative and rinse repeat, decades later chemists keep syntgesizing 'legal' analogues to work around the law.

Yeah, but MDA and MDMA are awesome. All those new research chemicals are bullshit. They made all the fun ones illegal. It's pretty funny that a direct consequence of drug prohibition is these terrible new drugs like "flakka" and "spice" making people flip the fuck out. Nobody would ever even try to take that shit if they could just get their hands on better, safer drugs.

I don't understand why cigarette companies don't lobby for Marijuana legalization.

They have the logistics and infrastructure, all they'd need is to grow it and its not like they couldn't keep selling tobacco and add a whole new segment of customers.

I understand why alcohol companies oppose it but not so much tobacco.

[Incoherent Puritanical Rage Intensifies]

From experience, the /psy/chedelic RCs are the only class that actually has a huge assortment of shit thats worthwhile. Otherwise I agree, the RCs for the most part especially stimulants and synthetic cannabinoids are sketchy as fuck.

Also MDA > MDMA imo, but both are dandy

Says the guy who has obviously never taken LSD/mushrooms/DMT. Doing drugs all the time is degenerate. Everyone really needs to trip at least once in their life. If you haven't done it, you really have no place talking about it.

A million times this

As a guy that knows more about weed than the next 100,000 people combined, I'll tell you this.

It should not be used habitually, period. If you have appetite problems, absolutely go for it, but you're paying a steep price. Habitual weed usage kills dreams. You do not dream if you smoke a lot, that has knock on effects on your personality. The people I work with cannot think critically about themselves, it is incredible how predictable they become. For that reason, I strongly believe it to be a gateway drug. Mind you this is anecdotal, but I've been in the industry since legalization was a twinkle in someone's eye. I don't consume any weed myself, but I have a PATIENT group with TERMINAL medical conditions that I provide for.

Habitual use is far less dangerous than alcohol consumption, but it isn't harmless. Why do you think those typical stoner fucks act the way they do? Festival going types, you know the ones. They cannot think critically about themselves to where going to a Rob-or-Bust-Me-Fest doesn't register as a bad idea. Aspiring white rappers, you better believe they're fucked up something terrible on the weed. I have friends that are in the ground right now because they bought into the "peaceful herb" meme after smoking so god damn much of it that they vacation to Jamaica to get shot up by some booga gang.

It fucks with your head, a typical healthy person should not be consuming cannabis frequently, period. I've seen thousands of case studies at this point, I consider my experience valid. You think Juggalos could exist without a disconnect from self-critique? I don't. They're just one example. All the best producers in the industry don't touch their own product, myself being one of them. Guys that smoke the most grow fucking garbage because their shit-tier "12-week-sativas" get them so stoned XD. 99% of colloquial wisdom about pot is patently false. There is some medical usage for people that are already of atypical psychology, but there are also tremendous risks in that category. I don't support recreational legalization, nor do I think alcohol should be lawfully allowed to market the way it does. Mind-altering substances are bad for average healthy people, there is no reason not to be sober. If you need to get out of your head to enjoy recreational activities, something is wrong that drugs aren't addressing.

Also tripping is just being high on drugs, I've dipped hundreds of sheets, made tons of DMT, and grown pounds of shrooms; they are just drugs, you don't have to do them, and you aren't any smarter/wiser for partaking. In fact I'd argue the opposite.

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This is what you sound like.

back in the day when I used to smoke weed erryday, this was the complete opposite, my dreams were INTENSE and frequent. stopped smoking 5 years ago, they come here and there but nowhere near as lucid or frequent.

on the contrary, weed was the only way I could focus on difficult tests that I had to take

gateway because people who specialize in selling illegal substances (weed is NOT manmade, so it's not a "drug" but an herb) tend to have… guess what? lots of different illegal substances to offload. and it's way more profitable to get someone addicted to the manmade shit than a generally physically unaddictable drug.

Alright, I was gonna start writing up about your next paragraph but then I read
aaaaaaand I stopped reading.

Spotted the nigger.

How about I call out degeneracy as I see it without debasing myself like a faggot

Alright kiddo, I'm sure your experience as a passive consumer is more valid than a guy that's been manufacturing that product for decades.

Do you own a car? You must thereby be a seasoned mechanic.

wao bro sounds like a super positive experience with no degenerate effects that should be free for all

Why don't you actually look into the history of LSD and shut the fuck up

Hmm, I think there's a correlation. I was anti drug for a long time, you just don't understand what it's like. If you don't want to that's fine, but drugs do have a purpose for some people that lies outside the realm of 'lel lets get high niggaaaaa'. For me it relaxes my muscles after lifting and lets me sleep like a baby when I'm having trouble with back pain.

You haven't really proven anything though. I've manufactured DMT a few times with some friends, and my friend was a big time dealer. I was with him when he did 10 tabs of acid, a few points of molly and smoking weed all day. The guy is a doctorate in medicine so it's obvious saying things like 'drugs are bad m'kay' is a very unnuanced position to take for such a 'seasoned veteran' such as yourself. If you're a guy who cuts the leaves off of bud, you're not exactly in a privileged position as to have your opinion valued higher than anyone else.

Woo bro you need to mellow out, can't you make a case for yourself?

Better stick to the peace pipe

Sorry laddy but the case has to be made. No doubt stoners will make the case on the cancer patients behalf about health benefits but their real intention always has and always will be a drug for recreational use.

A cancerous case for society that is often well packaged and covered in platitudes and muh personal experiences.

A degenerate comes in many other shapes

Keep posting that uber cuckservative bro, so h'redpilled. If you can't enjoy drugs without letting it interfere with your life then you're a moron, just don't project that idiocy onto others. I'm not saying it isn't recreational, simply that there is a method to enjoying weed that doesn't make you a LEL WEED LMAOOOO stoner tool. I have no wallets with cannabis leafs on them, for example.

General observation =/= universal truth

Yeah, there are exceptions, but I don't think it's worth the risk with odds favoring failure and incarceration. There's no sane reason to do drugs, they don't make you some kind of X-men spirit warrior, being sober is obviously a better option.

gas yourselves for falling for the 'herbal' jew.
how cucked can you get?
tell me. has anything came from weed smoking besides garbage?
DUDE WEED LMAO

And yet his point is much more clear and concise than yours, it is well researched, well founded and observable.

To unleash cannabis, or any illegal poison on a population is exactly that; a poison.

Drugs interfere with your life, your wallet and your mind, you are deluded and reliant

You view yourself as a cut above the rest, like a faggot who votes conservative, or a nigger who is aware of his peoples inability.

-I - I'm a cool reasonable fag!

But there are no shades of grey here, you are a drug smoking degenerate, just like the rest of them.

You fucking loser

Things I don't like.

What is your """profession"""? Being in construction or warehousing surrounded by users isn't exactly indicative.

So you're backing off on your 'having produced tons of DMT' stance then? What is your profession?

Except I should have a right over my own headspace if I'm harming no one else. That statement might be true for you, but don't project your opinions onto me.

I haven't touched any drugs in over two years since I got my job. Your inability to view things with nuance is sad, a sign of youth, subhuman intelligence, or myopia. I assure you that the corn/soy based diet you likely have is a thousand times worse for you than vaping a bit of weed. Do you know that your body creates cannabinoids endogenously for example? Do you know that dreams are caused by your brain producing DMT? No, you don't, because you want to fit in by being a super edgy memelord since you've been here for less than a year.

Compelling m8, really gave me food for thought

Christ almighty give me strength

Not an argument

There was nothing of value in your post worth arguing with. I made a clear and amazing argument just a few posts up if you feel like taking that on at some point

I run an indoor grow facility for a patient collective. I think weed is beneficial for certain sick and terminally ill people. I'll forget more about the subject than you'll ever know.

I don't think it's wise to advocate for people to have more options to waste their time and money. I don't think social drug use is a high-affect activity. I would rather advocate people find fulfillment without substance use. There isn't much of a reason to get fucked up on drugs as a healthy person. Saying otherwise is just hedonistic apologia. Possibly even masochism.

The costs of enforcing anti-weed laws are not worth the benefits.

People just like banning weed because it's a good excuse to jail blacks and mestizos. We just need to stop beating around the bush and deport them, while allowing responsible white people to smoke weed as long as they aren't otherwise acting degenerate.

People should be allowed to kill themselves, and by that extent anything that does not also cause direct harm to others around them like injecting poison into your veins should also be illegal. I'm very in favor of people giving themselves darwin awards, we should make it as easy as possible to weed out the weak.

*should also be legal

Because enforcing laws and regulations to protect people from themselves only shelters the undeserving of life and keeps them in the gene pool when 500 years ago they would have gotten themselves killed through their own stupidity.

Except that society isn't as simple as living by the individual.
People have familys that are damaged, businesses and properties are affected.
When health is adversely affected it isn't an individual problem, but societies problem. There is an influx of those taking healthcare resources, and handouts, at the tax payers expense.

There is no living by the individual, when a degenerate abuses drugs, or drugs are allowed into a society, the society suffers from the effect of those drug users.

In your opinion

That's where your post should end. Endless projection of puritanism on people who don't wish for it. Like I said, I don't smoke anymore, but that's not my choice. Why should I be limited to alcohol which is objectively worse? This isn't about fulfillment, what are you smoking? I don't have to coddle your neuroses so that I live the way you wish I did. I highly doubt you 'run an indoor grow facility' when in reality I probably hit it right on the nose that you're just some low rent leaf pruner.

That's their problem for involving their problems in other people's lives and your problem for being so dependent on them that you suffer as a result of their self harm. I don't bother other people and I keep to myself, I go to work, avoid interacting with other people or their lives, go to the store for food, and otherwise live in my house isolated. All I ask is that the same courtesy is shown to me.

And the only part of your post that has an effect on other people

I abhor welfare and I promise to live my life to the best of my ability to never ask for healthcare. If I have health problems, I will use my own money for it or just die.

Aye m8 but if you are a drug abuser you become a public liability
And your faggy personal example of a life just doesn't hack it, talking in terms of society and legislation, it is damaging to unleash more drugs on society.

It affects familys, societal health and the tax payer.

That's how you sound.

You still fail to explain how or why. The worst that would happen is I hurt my families feelings, which won't happen because alcohol and drugs are degenerate.

Feelings don't matter. If you mean economically, then it's stupid of my family to take care of me for being a drug addict. If a relative of mine became a drug addict and fucked their life up, I would disown them.
Broad encompassing term that means nothing other than you trying to sound smart without explaining anything in detail.
See my previous post. I don't take welfare and I'm not asking for any.

I honestly cannot wrap my head around why Holla Forums dislikes Cannibis consumption.

I get the whole gateway drug argument but that may be because of the age they begin smoking it. Also like any drug its all about regulating how much you consume.

It is a lot less degenerate than alchohol.
It is a lot less dangerous than alchohol.
It is a lot less damaging than alchohol.

I hear all these autistic virgins complaining about girls going out and getting absolutly smashed and sucking off a bunch of dudes and blaming it on Mr Shekelstein. While they are not necessarily wrong, more of the blame should be shifted to excessive alchohol consumption.

If the girl were to smoke a bunch of Cannibis no degenerate hook up culture dick suking would occur.

It has shown huge promise in curing disease as well as helping people with pyschological problems. Same thing with other natural drugs such as Shrooms.

Now you might think it's degenerate and thats fine. I can assure you that you aren't missing out on much, but going against the grain and crying over "stoners" isn't getting anywhere.

I had a nutella crepe my first time I smoked. Best thing I ever ate.

One of the rules here is that you never, EVER name the liquid degeneracy for what it truly is. It's fine if you decry degeneracy all day on Holla Forums, but you better not even hint at taking away the bottle.

No, I am not saying remove alchohol. We just need to stop excessive consumption.

Excessive consumption is generally harmful regardless of what is being consumed, yes.

Hard working contributing members of the New American Reich should be allowed to enjoy any mild vices in moderation on their own time in the privacy of their own home.

I have no problems living next to the blue collar worker who enjoys a cigar, a drink or a joint after a hard days work.

Didn't Goebbels warn us about the joyless puritanical no fun allowed faggots?

Sure did.

research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb60.htm

Honestly, any attempt from an outsider to regulate what does or does not go into someone's boy reeks of jewry attempting to herd the goyim like cattle.

Also, if you bitch about smoking or drinking in moderation, but don't make a peep about all the fucking corn syrup in your food or the fluoride in your hygiene products, you are either a hypocrite or nigger-tier retarded.

So much this.

Good read. It's really starting to make me wonder if the "EVERYTHING IS DEGENERATE BAN EVERYTHING REE" posters are D&C shills trying to fit in.

Tbh the only reason soft drug use has such a bad rap here is because of the niggers and spics who go apeshit under the influence.

Christ almighty, marijuana prohibition was originally just a means to an end to stick it to beaner farmers and nigger jazz musicians. The substance itself was practically an afterthought.

But these dunderhead posters seem to forget that niggers and spics would still be just as awful sober.

In a white ethnostate these vices wouldn't be an issue.

I think it's less insidious. Some people only know degenerate stoner fags because they're surrounded by losers so they don't understand that a lot of successful people smoke without having it interfere with their life.

Shitty people make things as shitty as they are no matter what the thing is, be it drinking, smoking something, erotica, etc.

I don't know, it's eerie how he all but predicted a good number of posts on Holla Forums nowadays.

Successful, employed pot smokers are almost as adept at hiding their powerlevel as Holla Forumsacks tbh.

People only know loser leftie potheads because you HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA that your successful friends get high, because they keep it to them fucking selves.

Think about it this way. How many of your friends, family members and co-workers know that you're a frog-worshipping nazi shitpost wizard?

Same concept.

The south american drug cartel is fueled by drugs being criminalized in america. Every year a shit ton of people are murdered, raped, and corrupted in south america from the cartel, and when it gets here it spreads to the niggers and gang violence ensues and gang sizes grow.

Decriminalization of drugs, coupled with a greater emphasis on rehabilitation rather than imprisonment, is the route to take.

Portugal decriminalized ALL drugs and actually saw usage for every single drug, including marijuana, decline.

It's more about portrayal than it is about legality. The war on drugs has cost a trillion fucking dollars. My tax dollars pay for the imprisonment of people who smoked weed. These people shouldn't be in fucking jail. They should get help.

But I guess that's a kike view right? Even though its supported by logic that violence and wasteful spending would decrease, and supported by trials in other countries such as portugal that usage would not increase.

Yes, vice B is still a vice. But I'm tired of americans being corrupted by cartels, gangs, and drug violence. Fuck.

everything in this thread is wrong!!! my D.A.R.E. program told me that weed will lead to heroin use and all the potheads in my junior high were dumb, therefore marijuana is degenerate!!! alcohol and tobacco are ok though because the government says so.

TBH after we finish with the mudshits we need to go to war with the cartels.

Exactly.
The way one of my gurus put it once,

and to add on to this, smoking Marijuana is not going to turn people into degenerate losers. Holla Forums has taken the term "degenerate" and thrown it around almost as much as we throw around shill and kike. I've seen countless things described as 'degeneracy' on here that in actuality are not degenerate at all.

Plenty of successful, useful people have smoked pot or still do recreationally. But that's the thing: recreationally.

The stigma comes from loser leftists who become potheads. They're the stereotype that is perpetuated when it comes to marijuana. Laziness is practically a symptom of leftist ideology. I'd argue that simply having a leftist mindset is more degenerate, more harmful, more of a 'vice' to he who posses the mindset, and society as a whole.

Do not rule somebody out as a filthy degenerate scum on the sole basis that they smoke marijuana. That's just ridiculous.

u triggered me m8. Check your privvies and donate to my patreon immediately

Fuck the cartels. I used to live in the southeast united states where they come up. I hate that shit. They bring so much rot into this country.

Decriminalizing drugs in the US would put a financial blow on the cartels, and after that it'd be easy pickings.

Also, This.

Dubby dubs confirm. Spics shall dangle from the edge of the wall like Christmas lights.

Prase be unto kek.

Mexico isn't the only problem, the entire continent of south america is shit. Why is it all shit?

Socialist governments.
There's good people down there, they're just getting rekt by pants on head governmental philosophy.

Because those dumbass spaniard conquistadors couldn't keep it in their codpieces and spawned a mongrel race that spread like pubic lice all over the rainforests?

Let this be a lesson to the RWDS. The only way you're supposed to fuck the native populations you colonize is metaphorically, with heavy ordinance.

I'm ready for Trump to give hard drug users a chance but then unleash Duterte level violence against them.

White hard drug users are suffering from an illness. They need detox and medical support imo. A lot of otherwise talented people cripple themselves with these substances because they are failing to cope with some type of trauma.

Again, in a white ethnostate, these people probably would have been given opportunities in the first place that would have prevented such drastically poor life decisions.

Nigs under the influence, however, should be shot on sight as a matter of public order. Obviously.

I smoke a few hits off my pipe before I go to bed.
Fuck,I'd rather do that then drink and end up hugging dudes crying like a bitch.
It helps me sleep,fuck off if you don't like that.
Trump is legalizing medical and leaving recreation up to the states.

ITT: Str8 Edge kiddies

i.e. Meth

found the goy that can't give up the hemp jew

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The hell it isn't. When I went to get my MED badge there was literally one nigger and five or so other minorities out of ~50 people in line and on grow scenes the ratio is even more extreme. This isn't Tyrone and Jaykwon growing ditchweed in a closet to "slang" from a street corner.

When was the last time you saw - ever - minorities clamoring to enter agriculture or even expressing positive sentiment about the same? Even the Mexicans or SEAsians or whatever minority group works on illegal grow sites don't want to get into the industry for themselves and just want the seasonal money.

Gas yourself, Cheech.

the only way to counter a trump victory (says increasingly nervous man) is to legalize weed right after he's elected president in the hopes that everyone would smoke themselves into a dull haze.
it wont work, instead pacifies the left and lets the reich just roll over them.

calling it

So ban alcohol too?

It's illegal because that makes it easy to arrest hippies and niggers.

Make it more illegal.

STALIN GET OUT

DUDE

WEED

LMAO

Who gives a shit? People who heavily partake in either are fucking morons.

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They don't care. They'd rather you kill yourself so they didn't have to look at someone who wasn't perfect. That's just how these people are.

Holla Forums has never cared about the white man. Only the perfect one.

Have you ever really helped anyone?

Have you ever successfully helped anyone else?

Have you ever really saved anyone? Or did you just pick them up for a minute so you could feel better about not needing help?

Too bad Trump said Federal Medical and states rights for everything else.

Almost as if he realizes we're not completely homogeneous and can't be due to the vast regional difference is whites alone.

You don't get it. They'll never care. Ever. It's all about what exact brand of fascism you follow, which vices you indulge, which ones you condemn.

There will never be anything cohesive from here or anywhere else.

You alright? This thread has been dead for a while.

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So did you read the thread or..?

Noah was a drunk too.

If you brew the devil's drink you have no claim to whiteness. So, no, alcohol is not predominantly white owned… whites in fact have zero stake in it.

t. Single mother-marrying cuck

user..

Different weed has different effects and your mood can change it. With alcohol I start off like that but then I end up getting too emotional and hating everything, where as the worst thing is I get paranoid on weed but I don't do or say anything stupid.

Actually, Holla Forums does not promote degeneracy in any of its Semitic forms.

Holla Forums (in general) promotes striving for perfection in body & mind, as the ancient Greek philosophy states.

It is only through discipline that we can advance ourselves and our race, & achieve ascendancy over the other races. Whites have a head start in this, by nature, but we must always be moving forward, always progressing.

The one good thing to come from free market collusion is this. Once we gas all of the druggie degenerates then we can move on to gassing all of the drunks.

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Marijuana is degenerate

you shouldn't smoke it ;^)

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I guess it's easy to call others degenerate when one doesn't engage in social drinking or smoking oneself due to lack of friends. :^)

You're really lucky. Smoking around people makes me unbearably socially anxious to the point of leading me into unnerving bouts of self-hate and depression.

I typically only micro-dose, and even then the last thing I want to do is be around other people.

I mostly use it to explore my subconscious and fix automatic negative behaviors, I also enjoy watching very intellectually stimulating material on it.

Alcohol>>>>>weed for me. I must have bad THC receptors or something because I just don't get the appeal.

Try an edible.

I bet a lot of these DUDE WEED LMAO posters don't have the balls or the savvy to find a hookup anyway. I imagine they're mostly NEETs.

Nothing wrong with not wanting to smoke weed. That's a personal decision, like drinking alcohol. But the fags ITT haven't made a single good argument. They argue like liberals, calling names and throwing hissy fits, and they should feel bad.

Guaranteed for not having read the thread.

Police don't give a shit about "weed" or make the laws pertaining to it, they enforce. Maybe you should get on a higher education level on law and how it works.

police hate anyone that even looks like they smoke pot, what the fuck are you on about?
why do you think some pothead yelling "AM I BEING DETAINED?" gets tazed but a typical normalfag looking cat like vid related barely gets bothered even when he's getting mouthy with the cop

pleb tier tbh, grow your own or kill yourself.

Growing means you could get with a distribution charge instead of just possession.

depends on where you live, but if you're breaking the law anyway why not go full tilt and get some top quality shit while you're at it?
also, think your dealer treats you right? so does every other schmuck he sells to. toppest kek.

Like I said I don't smoke anymore, but back when I did one of my best friends was my dealer. He always smoked me out for free with some great stuff, and only charged me when I wanted to replenish my house stash. He always gave me a better price than he charged his usual clientele as well. I've seen the dried basil that other dealers sold to schmucks, and that's not what I ever got. I enjoy growing things so maybe one day I will, but not when I have to worry about drones scoping my shit out.

"police hate anyone that even looks like they smoke pot"

Said the man to the police officer, we are normal people as well. Not robots. Many of my fellow officers use Holla Forums.

I agree. And I assume you aren't saying best producer == most popular producer? Because some of the most popular figures in the industry are brain dead.

Even Sam aka David aka Angel aka whatever other names he goes by is probably legally insane at this point and can't have an in depth discussion without google in front of him. And he's a good bit responsible for GW's success.

You near Humboldt/Trinity by any chance? Gonna be setting up a few MMRSA and maybe AUMA grows there in the next few months, curious if there's anyone left there who can be considered sane.

This is actually a decently informative article.

WONPR was founded by Pauline Sabin who married thrice. One such marraige was on December 28, 1916, to Charles Hamilton Sabin (1868-1933; banker; chairman, Guaranty Trust Company). Judging by the name and profession, a likely (((chosen))).

Capt. William H. Stayton, who had been the AAPA founder and president, and was an honorary president of (((J.P. Morgan))).

BWH

I can have a joint every night for a week or two, get over whatever was making me emo and be back to my prime whenever I feel like it.

Even low key pharmaceutical antidepressents like valium fuck you up.

Smoke a little weed from time to time, there's no hangover or lasting addiction and destressing every once in a while has got to be good for you.

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Marijuana is illegal for the same reason lamps are made with an expiration date rather than 'eternal'

It solves too many problems. It's great for bio diesel, it's better than hemp for clothing, supposedly helps cure cancer.

If this became legal, too many industry giants would fall

So a pozzed retard laughing at another pozzed retard that willingly got fucked in the ass by a group of "youths" suddenly means we should support taking it up the ass?

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Yeah, and it burns your brain, causes you to be addicted, slowly numbs dopamine receptors and long term usage usually ends with a psychosis or a ruined life devoid of all pursuit. Besides, derivatives of marijuana are used in pharmaceutical industry. Industry-applicable derivatives are usually legal or partially legalized, at least in Europe.

The leaps you are making lad is sad, like real fucking sad.

You can't see outside of yourself as the individual, it keeps coming back to how YOU would treat your family and how YOU wouldn't take the welfare.

YOU aren't the point and you can't fucking see that, every argument of yours boils down to

Most embarrassing of all is that you have shown your true colours as a drug taking degenerate.

You would abandon your family if drugs was an issue, you have no problem with your fellow man suffering and all just because you want to get high like a fucking degenerate.

All it fucking boils down to for you is:

No talk of higher ideals or what is better for society or what will further the white, western peoples. Just an entitlement to poison one's self you selfish fucking cuck.

You stoners sit around and agree its bad that shit is put into the water to pacify the population, female hormones and flouride and the likes. And you don't see a problem with giving free reign of a new narcotic to the population, to limit them to their bedrooms to see funny colours or feel fuzzy.

You are fucking nigger m8

untermensch detected.

Before weed, I was a staunch believer in open borders, multiculturalism and in our alliance with Israel. Now I get high everyday and want niggers, muds and kikes to leave our communities. Weed made me believe in the importance of making our streets safe again for our children to roam.

And you're trying to tell me weed is bad?

Is this some sort of divide and conquer thread?

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Sage and hide thread faggots.

Is David Frum on the payroll of the alcohol lobby?

NeverTrump’s David Frum Behind Opposition to Marijuana Legalization

breitbart.com/california/2016/08/01/david-frum-nevertrump-behind-opposition-marijuana-legalization/

"An anti-marijuana legalization group founded by The Atlantic senior editor David Frum and former Rep. Patrick Kennedy is gearing up to do battle this November in five states that are considering legalizing the drug for recreational use.

Frum is a member of the “#NeverTrump” conservatives, who have vowed not to vote for Republican nominee Donald Trump even if that means electing Hillary Clinton. One argument for doing so is that Trump alienates potential Republican voters, including among millennials. However, on this issue, Frum and the millennials may be on opposite sites.

According to the Los Angeles Times, Smart Approaches to Marijuana (SAM) — an outfit founded by Frum, Kennedy and former Obama administration drug policy advisor Kevin Sabet — has raised $2 million to fight what are already well-funded pro-legalization campaigns, including in California."