All human life has equal value

Who the fuck came up with this meme lmao

We start from the assertion that all human life has equal value.

The onus is on you to prove that it doesn't.

Pretty sure it was the Jews

The starting assumption is that human life has no value. You might be tempted consider this equal because "everyone is 0" but this is a misconception of language. In fact the category of value doesn't apply.

value is a spook

Exactly.

Why?

If I extrapolate from myself, and I believe I have value. Then it follows that everyone has the same amount of value that I have given to myself. Ergo, every human life has the same value.

You randomly assert that because "durr dey have da same cognitive abilities as me amirite". Other people aren't you.

The fact you value yourself is subjective.
There's no objective factor determining what has value and what does not.

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Of course it is. And everyone else will value themselves subjectively.

So? Why not rely on the subjective factors?

We're all made in God's image, comr8

god is dead *tips fedora furiusly*

All human life has the same "value" because we are all human. Doesn't matter if one is stupid, or another is beautiful, or vice versa. The moment we forget that humans are human therefore we are all equal is the moment we lose sight of Socialism, Communism, or anarchy.

This.

The difference is some people choose o exploit. They are still human-ly equal, but those that exploit make a conscious or subconscious decision to do so, violating that right of others equal-ness

do you have brain damage

>same value

Are you seriously saying that you think yourself better than someone stupid, or ugly…?
I also don't understand what you mean, I was saying all X belong to category X, therefore they are equal. The point of communism is literally to establish Equality that we should have, fuck off.

Yeah I know value isn't a good word, I couldn't think of the proper one to use my spookman

sure is humanism in here

The point is not to assert Equality, which translates to equal ends. That's what the conservatives think communism wants to achieve. The proper aim is Fairness, which translates to equal access to means. Hence the deconstruction of private property for a hierarchy (omg!) based on action and ability. Only in communism will we have a proper arena to contest one another.

Read Nietzsche.

Not necessarily.
There are people who don't value themselves.


Because it's anecdotal with no bearing on the universal. You can't use it to prove all life has value.

L I B E R A L detected

This. Fuck this slave-morality bullshit about "equality"

Spook =/= subjective, I suppose? ;^)

But it does have equal value.

As in, It's all equally worthless.

A relationship cannot exist between non-existing entities. Nothing in terms of value is different than value=0 for all. For the latter example predicates the existence of value to rule worthlessness upon something! This is the absurdity; there is no rule. That is, there is nothing that is value.

Since when does human life have value at all?

I think being misunderstood. I mean equality in terms of having equal access to means of production and products of such, as well as being inherently equal with the next guy - having the same options in life if he so chooses. Of course someone that is perhaps more stupid than the next won't be able to do rocket science, even if he wanted to- but he would be given the chance to try and learn. Inevitably his intelligence wouldn't permit to it.

If communism doesn't mean equal opportunity then I'm off the fucking train

I still do maintain that I am "worth" (dont flip dick at that word, I can't think of a better one) just as much as anyone else. To not think that would essentially mean the downfall of any communist societies. What I'm hearing is literally chads v betas right now

smh no one is "inherently" equal anymore than anyone is "inherently" unequal - as racist discourses try to argue. Ideologies of equality will always on one count or another use the idea of "equality" only within the context of whatever is considered to be a valid category of person: all Aryans are equal, are are equal "before God", etc. There is no such thing as an archetypical "human being" which we all equally measure up to; this concept of the Man is an abstraction from particular individuals, who are all essentially different from each other. And as an abstraction it can only be an idea created from the values of one person, or a group of peoples - which historically has been the ruling classes of democracies who claim "all men are created equal" and then qualifying what counts as a "man".

There are only differences of strength in wills and individuals who are exceptional or who are common members of the herd.

Marxist here, regardless of your participation the train, or "Mr. Bones Wild Ride" will continue.
Anyways, yes communism does aim to bring about equal access to the means of production. This is very basic stuff comrade.

I agree completely still, I think I just can't get my point across cause I have to type this on a phone. The point is, even if there is some stronger, or more intelligent, it doesn't matter because they will be stronger in some field (playing the trumpet, whatever) so it's all fairly subjective. This is the reason why I don't think ones better than another. Too subjective


I know its basic stuff oober

welp, now you just killed the conversation with muh subjectivism

If human life has no value, then you'd all be posting on Holla Forums and screaming for jews in ovens.

Fucking arseholes, the lot of you.

That is true from that perspective, everybody has their strenghts or weaknisses.


I dont value what you say.

That's fine. Do you value not being beaten with my wrench?

This is some mediocre logic.

If you go out of your way to destroy something, you are assigning it value - negative value, that is, which is still ironically positive value. This is why committing suicide is stupid, because it is implicitly valuing your shit life.

Read Nietzsche.

"On the tarantulas" is my favourite chapter in Thus Spake Zarathustra.

Fuck off with that shite.

The action does NOT imply you value the object that the action is executed upon. The life of a fly is valueless. People still swat flies; they value freedom from irritation and the existence of the fly is entirely incidental to that.

Again, if you really thought human life was valueless, you'd be on Holla Forums. The existence of all those jewish people would be entirely incidental to obtaining your own goals to into the oven they go.

I see we're returning to the laziness of "Read this book" rather than actually expounding arguments, again.

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liberal pls go

Unless you can cash out that statement I'm just going to keep making fun of you. Because everything else you said was more baseless assertions.

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Read the rest of my shit you nigger

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i kno rite?

For example, OPs life has no value. He's not even good for eating.