Does anyone else feel like the family creates antagonism between its members and society?
This is Parvus, Trotsky's and Rosa's buddy, describing the bourgeois family once he was accused of being a shit dad:
I pretty much agree with all of that, speaking not only in "theory" but to a certain degree, experience. Very few people seem to have time for social awareness once they have families.
Pic related. Became neocon dicks after Sean was born.
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implying he was ever a leftists and not just beyonce tier exploiting retards to sell music
The bourgeois family must be destroyed, it is in harmony with a system that treats children like property to be owned and utilized by the parents. It's entirely nonsensical for children to be treated like that: it is the responsibility of a whole socialist society to educate and provide for future generations, not for that burden of responsibility to be placed upon two people alone. The atomization that takes place under capitalism means that because of sky-high divorce rates, the family is often reduced to just one parent and their children, further alienating the kids from the wider network of social relations that can be used to abolish the entire barbaric institution that we call a family after a socialist revolution.
Congratulations, you've become a conservative's idea of what a socialist is
you can be rich and leftwing, who do you think votes for clinton and then goes to watch Hamilton and pat themselves on the back about how tolerant they are even though they live in a gated community
Well said user-kun
lmao is this your first time here? Lurk more, you're embarrassing yourself
I'm getting mixed signals here, asshole.
Based Yui strikes again.
Lennon and his battered waifu were never leftists. They were liberals and they are worshiped by idealist liberals who literally believe if we all smoked weed more often and took mushrooms and lived in harmony then the world would be a peaceful place and poverty would cease to exist.
He deserved it. The phony must die says the catcher in the rye.
Furthermore, listen to their shitty song "Revolution." It's pure liberalism. It's incredibly embarrassing.
The nuclear family is just one more aspect of capitalism that perpetuates it. We all hate capitalism, but as a system it is beautifully self-preserving.
The child is usually and most likely just a copy of their parents. Their political views, religious views, etc. Because that's all the child is exposed to. And in capitalism parents are usually capitalist, they have to be. Having a child is expensive and the parents have to work to support it. This is compounded by all the propaganda that your child must go to university, it must have certain things like a computer, phone, or be ostracized and not accepted by its peers.
There is terrible pressure on parents to provide the best life possible or be considered failures. How do they do this? By trying to get the biggest paycheck possible. They will usually hate their job, but will have to stay the course or risk their family ending up on the streets. This is the greatest failure of a father in our patriarchal society.
Then parents put pressure on their children to find good jobs, to support themselves and families of their own. Thus perpetuating the system.
It's sickening and morbid.
And yes, I truly believe if people smoked weed and ate mushrooms we'd all be much better off. In fact, back in the 1960s the US was scared of weed because it turned soldiers into pacifists. And an idea was floated around (MK-ULTRA) to spike the Russian military with LSD to make them unwilling to fight.
There is a reason why porky is so against weed and psychedelics. It really does make people think differently, and not give a fuck about money, or the government. It shows people what is truly important: nature, love and other people. And if you call it hippie bullshit that just means you swallowed porky's propaganda.
I believe that without a shift in consciousness we cannot have a revolution.
I agree with this but the method has obvious limits. Psychedelics don't teach you economic theory or critiques of capitalism. The problem with people who are into psychedelics/weed is that they are usually utterly undisciplined, their politics are superficial, and they fall victim to hippie woowoo.
I'm a very strong advocate for psychedelics but I don't think they're a panacea for achieving a better society. And I consider many psychedelic users/advocates to be hopelessly spooked.
the tripfag is right for once.
I don't think the revolution will be able to smoothly deal with our biological impulse to maintain our offspring close. Indeed, there has been several different kinds of family unit throughout history, but there were, indeed, family units. To think that people would so readily contradict their part of their biology is foolish
Yeah, so?
The offspring can be close to he family and still be raised by the community. Look at schools. Children spend half of their waking day in school, effectively being socialized, indoctrinated and raised by teachers.
Also, rather than children staying home after school with the parents, the family could go out to community events. Furthermore, living arrangements could be such that families would have communal living spaces and kitchens, thus increasing exposure to other people.
Not really.
Only under capitalism, since we are forced to exist as both individual and communal beings, in our economic life and then in our social life. This contradiction between the isolated economic agent and the necessarily social human agent is described by Marx as a form of alienation that exists under capitalist production.
You all comrades need to read Engels "On the Origins…" and then come back.
history is replete with examples of successful societies that relied on surrogates/fosterage for child rearing
For example?
That actually is one of the family units I alluded to.