*sigh*
yes user, people have been making claims that Hilary has secret Muslim backers, her aids are muslim plants, her staffers are moles.
this has been as eternal as the "obama is a terrorist" line
the truth is hillary probably does have muclim backers
but she has thousands of backers, as every party does
everyone is lobbying someone
so coming to the conclusion that hillary is sympathetic to muslims is reasonable, but it's not some enormous conspiracy
*I move away from he mic to breath in*
the gulan movement is a funny one, comparable I think to the isreal loby
they operate heavily in america, but their aims are primarily offshore
while this makes them (and the isreal loby) likely to act contrary to US national interest, they are not the enemies of america
the gulen movement is actually the wing of islam the US considers the most friendly, and the CIA has been aledjedly using them for years to compete with islamic interests abroad that are guenuinely hostile to america
see: syria, iraq, egypt, turkey
syria sided with russia, so america shwacked them
failing to stage a coup they tried to start a revolution by sending foreign fighters in and faking chemical attacks
also something about opperation orchard, just saying
iraq was neutral to the west, but threatened kuwait, the the US shwacked iraq; pretty simple
this made the saudi-US relationship very complicated
egypt always hated america I think, though I'm unsure why
so the US backed isreal to move against them in a "pre-emptive strike" that wiped out the egyptian air force, and covertly attacked egyptian targets
needless to say america has been trying to get egypt for a while
the gulen movement is the CIA's best hope at destabalizing turkey, which let us not forget before the coup was in a prime possition to join the european powerbloc
laugh all you want, but it worked
logs wern't kept for long enough to be sorted or spied apon, and it was impossible logistically to work out ahead of time who would be talking about sensitive pollitical topics and who was a 12 year old begging for diamonds
they could always bug in on a few people, but they could never get everyone
our best cover is hiding in plain sight, and only now that mass data storage and high speed processing and advanced algorithms to detect communications of interest is encrypted communication again becoming safer
it's all about being connected, there is no one definitive safe source
you need to know how to use IRC, the channels with hidden boards, you need to know WHEN to access them
sometimes you need to use special access programs like TOR (insecure in many places where nodes have been taken over, but still important)
and you need to network, when there is a stir on 4chan I go to six other places to get to the bottom of it if I have to
but I don't share my connections
this creates a community that's very hard to bug in on
if I was bugged right now I might direct you to a bugged site
however if you didn't share that site's existence it would stop right there
that is why I have to get you to work it out for youself
sounds like some spooky hacker club, but it's really simple
just do what you would normaly do, do it with a wide group, stop bullshit being passed down the line