What direction would you like to see Star Trek take?

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Comedy.

Fucking this right here.

Star Trek needs to be reduced in length series-wise. A winning formula that keeps getting ignored with good tv is the mini series.
Six episodes each exploring a section of the above anons ideas, pour money and talent into each story, have a definate end date instead of squeezing the franchise for every last dollar for as long as possible.

Make it fucking INTERESTING again, thought provoking, taking concepts in the life we live now and imprinted over a grander historic tale. Ideas not just about faggot and tranny acceptance, but what It, Life the Universe and Everything Means, where are we going? Why are we doing it? What is the outcome?

JEWS NEED TO LEARN HOW TO TELL A FUCKING STORY!

It'd be epic to see the Federation collapse like the Roman empire and space go back to being wild and chaotic again.

I want them to make a series based on that one scene in 'Parallels' where the Borg have slowly taken over and destroyed the entire Federation.

The ending will be the total destruction of the alternate Enterprise by the other Enterprise.

What's the one where Starfleet is militaristic and Lt Yar isn't dead. I liked that take.

Fuck that hippie UN shit.

found it:

"Yesterday's Enterprise"'s changes in detail:

By 2366, 22 years of war have raged between Klingons and the Federation, with the death toll in the billions. At that point, the war was going badly for the Federation, and a surrender seemed the most likely outcome.

The USS Enterprise, while retaining her exterior, has been fitted as a battleship, with less luxury than the prime timeline USS Enterprise.

The Enterprise has been fighting the Klingons for the past 4 years, and many, if not all, of the missions the 'prime' Enterprise undertook have not been undertaken by this Enterprise.

The Enterprise had no children on board as a result of the war.

Wesley Crusher was a full ensign in 2366, which implies either an earlier acceptance into Starfleet Academy or, as seems more likely in this timeline, that he was drafted into the military.

This should have been star trek from the beginning no pussyfooting around.

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Either redpill Starfleet or get rid of the Federation.
I wish Star Trek would take some aspects from Game of Thrones, each race acting like if they want to be friends but in reality they all want more power.
A show like Enterprise would be nice, humans being humans, not hippies wearing uniforms.
Also I wish they would include ideas from new scientific theories or space phenomenon for the "random encounters"-type of episode. The TNG episode about the Dyson sphere was pretty good.

My dream of having a Trek show would be based around a ship from the Section 31. Either a stealth ship (spying missions, MACO/SEAL Team stuff) or a warship with a crew like in BSG.
To be honest, I think Star Trek really needs a war to shake things up and less "let's talk about our minorities while we're sitting in the bridge with a window to space behind us".

Humans kicking alien ass in space & conquering stuff. ala Star ship troopers (the book not the movie)
Is that too much to ask?

To boldly go where no MACO team has gone before.

Why would any nation build multi-billion dollar spaceships without intending them to be part of a war machine?
"exploratory craft" would either be a military reconnaissance craft or be part of some lesser partially privately financed partially financed by government subsidies program with much less funding.Chances are the exploratory craft would be escorted by warships in deep space anyway due to dangers.

Also if you believe even 1/8 of the leftist Malthusian propaganda (stop feeding the third world population/food/water problem solved) then the earth is doomed and in the future we would need to conquer & raid other worlds anyway.

SPACE VIKINGS!

We did it to get some rocks and snub the russians, your point?

+1

That was to go to the moon not off into space. There is nothing so ridiculously unexpected between the earth and the moon.

well, i doubt that they can really reuse the cardassians for anything, so their best bet would be to do a series based on federation vs klingons
i can't really think of any other major power in the alpha/beta quadrant that hasn't already been done. romulans are there, but we've already had too much conflict with them to care
enterprise was definitely a good idea, albeit done a bit boringly, since it exists, a prequel probably won't work too well
at best do another series based during the original series timeline where they fuck with the klingons, or do one after ds9 where they once again fuck with the klingons
basically we need more klingons

there are no hostile aliens or alien empires for that matter hiding there.

kill it

replace with warhammer 40k

40kids belong to pre-school.

whichever direction the nearest garbage incinerator is in

You're right Shlomo, I love communism now! Diversity is our strength!

No wonder, that is what 40k is about. Humanity united by a Stalinist cult of personality.

Opening scene. Alpha Quadrant, 2490. We're introduced to a crew constituted more or less like the '60s crew: A diversity of whites – a Pollack, an American southerner, and maybe a German instead of Captain Kike. They encounter a Federation flagship drifting sideways.

The crew is nothing but space-dindus and transfats. They can't run their own ship because they've gone full zimbabwe on the people who built the Federation.

They need help. They need things to make them go. They need computer things. This is the Federation now. This is the future they chose.

What will Captain Hitler and his white cisscum oppression squad do in this horrible dimension? Why hasn't this degenerate Federation been subverted by the Cardassians, or destroyed by the Klingons?

Is there any hope?

Klingons are boring now. We've seen them extensively in TNG and DS9. A new enemy needs to be created.

Back to the roots, four bro fucking alien chicks in space and punching Klingons in the face. Hire some genuine nerds to write it and keep the core idea. Also keep cgi effects to the minimum, it's expensive and no one cares, back to foam and spandex.
Cheap, bros, chicks, nerds, space and klingons.

Also get actors that take the silly roles too seriously so they independently develope quirks for the characters to flesh out the setting.

Believe it or not back in the late 80s-early 90s there was the general opinion that there shouldn't be another Trek series because the show was too outdated and rooted in the 1960s and modernizing it would be awkward.

And what they instead did was developed the series way further, now it's hard to really talk about Star Trek without bringing up concepts TNG invented like the Holodeck or the Borg.

Did you watch Deep Space 9? The entire second half of that series is the war with the Dominion.

There's one conflict with the Romulans that's never been depicted in the show. Which is the initial war with the Romulans that setup the neutral zone.

It's very likely Star Trek Discovery will go into it.

tbh this seems far too derivative. One aspect of Star Trek that makes it unlike any other science fiction, at least released in the modern day, is that it's optimistic and not specifically focused on action.

I think making an action centric Star Trek series will just inevitably fail, it'd just end up looking like Star Trek 09 with a slashed budget.

The people that built the Federation weren't solely white people. By the time the Federation was created they had protein sequencers, and were on their way to creating the Replicator. Along with the transporter. Uhura was even from Africa and spoke Swahili.

The federation also wasn't built solely by humans it was also a joint effort by a bunch of other races like the Vulkans.

The Earth Romulan war would have happened during Enterprise, a full century before TOS. Discovery will be about buttsecks in space.

It should have the Federation decay and every planet fend off by itself, forming loose confederacies and shit. And more scale. Why nobody is using asteroids with warp drives to commit mass genocide is beyond me. It's fucking stupid. That kind of stuff. With the tech these dudes have, a group of pirates could extinguish whole civilizations.
Another idea would be that it'd be wonderful to see Captain Spacepants, space pirate constantly foil the Fed's plans to take away freedom. The next star trek should focus on the vastness of space. It's so big, that even with so much people you always find a place to go into grey morality. Captain Spacepants, space pirate would go around and sell drugs to the Ferengi, traffic plutonium for nukes and have to kill some people sometimes, and he'd do it and be able to rest at night. But he would do it not because he's bad, but because he's fighting the Fed's oppression. Having to do paperwork n shit to get a spaceship is outrageous, etc.

They can detect ships at warp, an asteroid at warp would be detected and averted. Star Trek needs to get back to its sci fi roots. Your idea of the vastness of space is a good concept. So much of the galaxy is still unexplored post-Voyager that there is still room to explore.

Politicking and war have been in DS9. Enterprise did space "politics" well because humanity was the newcomer and fairly weak. They only had 1 ship for most of the series. A new show should be about exploration but we are getting another prequel about buttsecks in space.

Would have yes but Ent was shit and was cancelled.

Full Fash. In the original universe, Starfleet had a diversity quota pushed on them by the Vulcans, who uplifted Humans after another world war.

Movie universe had Romulans genocide the Vulcans, so no more green-blooded aliens pushing humans toward utopia. Also, the Federation lost it's greatest ally, so the Romcoms, Klingsofleon and the Kardashians can now put pressure on a weaker alliance.

The show is called Star Trek, not Starfleet, so a Balkanization of the Federation could lead to Earth government taking a different approach to governing it's territories, especially on the fringes of space near hostile Alien worlds.

And that's the problem.

Star Trek's naive and out right saccharine message doesn't hold up in this cynical day and age. Sure, humans are good at building spaceships and robots but they are still fallible and are all inherently selfish. We will never live in a universe where money does not exist in some form. The utopia that previous Star Trek iterations presented is simply impossible to achieve, without forcing totalitarianism on everyone.

I've always thought that the Alien franchise was superior in that the universe was far more believable and didn't sugarcoat the future.

Wrong. We already have bits of the Star Trek future in the modern world. The open source software community is an example of this. Replicators would eliminate huge numbers of jobs and the jobs that would have to be done could simply be given high status. We already live in a totalitarian world with constant spying. A better criticism of Star Trek would be gender relations. We know how women behave when they get resources outside of the family or men. At least put some thought into your criticism. Try explaining why Aliens is superior in its vision of the future. Is it because corporations exist?

People were just as cynical in the 1960s and in the 1980s. It's more so that we read about it after the fact and think things were more quaint back then when people were more paranoid about other white people like Russians than they were about non issues at the time like Muslims.

That's not really something that Star Trek has specifically focused on (Mostly because it's contradicted numerous times throughout the series). I'd be interested in seeing a Star Trek show that actually focuses on the inner workings of the Federation but it's probably not going to happen. There's actually a lot of concepts in Star Trek that are mostly brushed aside like if the teleporter actually clones people or not.

Whether the setting is "possible" or not is irrelevant.

I think you're missing the point of what Trek represents. Star Trek is a franchise that's optimistic because it tries to speculate on the future and how people adapt to it. It's why so many inventions like the cell phone have been directly based on Star Trek inventions.

Like there have been Star Trek episodes where a big spooky alien has been the center of the conflict. And in a good Star Trek episode the premise of the episode is not "how do we best kill this thing" and it's more "what is this thing, and how do we communicate with it." I find that more interesting since it doesn't result in dumb action scenes.

This is again just dumbing down the series into just another action series. It also somewhat ignores that Star Trek (aside from Deep Space 9) is never really focused on the politics of the Federation but the focus of the show is on the ship and what's going on around it.

They've tried this numerous times before with the TNG movies which were just action movies with 50 year old actors and it was just awkward and the plots were dumb. And with Star Trek 09, into Darkness and Beyond. Almost every fan of the franchise who watches these movies just sees them as dumb and pointless.

Star Trek is at it's best when it speculates on the future, makes commentaries on the present and tries to have really tightly plotted well executed stories. Like my favorite TNG episodes tend to be the ones that have really abstract premises. Like the one where Riker is the lead actor of a play that takes place in a mental asylum and he switches between being on the set of the play and actually being in a mental asylum. That's the sort of thing I want to see out of new Trek episodes. Not big war scenes or battle scenes or things like that.

They can detect objects and ships travelling at warp speed. They can also detect when things jump to warp speed and when specifically they'll leave warp speed. Also starships have something called a Deflector Dish which already deflects relatively small objects when the ship is travelling at warp speed.

Piracy is hard to really figure in Star Trek as being successful due to just how many different races travel throughout space. Like not just the Federation but also the Klingons, Breen, Cardassians etc.

It's also debatable how successful it'd be in a civilization where wealth isn't valued. Indeed the only times we generally see "pirates" are usually Ferengi and they tend to be inept. Indeed when a bunch of Ferengi stole the Enterprise they already had contingencies to prevent people from capturing the ship, like locking down the main computer.

In the Aliens universe, the characters are not overly idealized like those in Star Trek. They're more relatable. The guys in Star Trek are too upstanding. With the exception of Kirk and Mccoy, they're not the type of guys you could have a beer with like the Hudson or Hicks or Apone.

The universe in Aliens is also far more grounded in reality in that the science is more hardnosed and space is wild and chaotic like it should be, The science and space presented in Star Trek is far too streamlined. When people go to another planet in Aliens, they go to another planet. In Star Trek, they just go to Earth 2.0.

You also forget another unsaid premise about Star Trek, the average IQ for humans is probably 120+. It's a society of nerds basically. They show young people drinking and getting rowdy in Star Trek. Remember how Picard got his artificial heart? He got into a bar fight and got stabbed. Aliens is not grounded in any science or reality I know of. Do you think this because they give it a blue collar aesthetic?

Old Picard isn't the same as young Picard.

I know teleporters don't exist in the Aliens universe or our universe either. Spaceships in Star Trek look clean and pristine, while ships in Aliens look like they've actually been used.

The blue collar aesthetic just feels more natural than that of Star Trek because I figure in the future, going into space wouldn't be seen as such a big deal anymore. I doubt people would be as formal as they seem to be in Star Trek.

But the starships in Star Trek also function as diplomatic vessels. Many of the people live years of their lives on those ships. Clean and pristine is a pride thing. Aliens never goes into how anything works. The sci-fi elements are just there to create a claustrophobic environment for a slasher film. There is nothing wrong with that and comparing the two franchises is kind of silly.

Here's an article (It's ancient but still relevant) that really goes into detail on the flaws of Star Trek,

weirdcrap.com/scholarly/trek.htm

Event Horizon is best you could hope for tbh

realistic hardsci star trek where post scarcity communist utopia is seen as an amusing meme, all characters are 1d robots who give lengthy, highly technical expositions on the various technologies, aliens, and histories of the future, with lots of big budget cgi

What about Starship Troopers?

I want a serious Starship Troopers movie (or series) without the "dude space nazis lmao".

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This is a great idea. Post-scarcity goes directly against thermodinamics.

And what about a space pirate that fights for freedom? Like those dudes like Chakotay, but it's on principle, not for land. Plus, having post-scarcity is bullshit, you can't have infinite energy for all. Eventually you run out of juice, even with replicators. It could go into full retcon territory and make energy the Federation's (and everything's) currency. Like SMAC. Because otherwise it makes no fucking sense, you eventually have no energy, or no antimatter for your energy generators (I think that was their justification), and your replicators don't work for shit.

Star Trek does not imply infinite energy for all. Material good that you need to live are provided by the replicators. Self-actualization is the basic tenet by which Federation citizens live by. Replicating a violin is not a big deal, I will spend years learning to play that one violin. That is not infinite energy.

Yeah, well, when you're also replicating the materials for making a fleet, I don't buy it. Huge deals of energy.

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Even if they are replicating materials for making a fleet, it's still not infinite energy. They show mining and miners in Voyager, the hologram doctor miners. One guy in DS9 thought about becoming a miner instead of a soldier. Voyager had some sort of bio-computer that could not be replicated. Not everything is replicated.

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