What's the point of being a communist when you realize there's literally no chance of a revolution happening in your...

What's the point of being a communist when you realize there's literally no chance of a revolution happening in your lifetime or if it does it will just lead to fascism again

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What's the point of being?

What makes you so sure?

Kill people, burn shit, fuck school.

Because after roughly three decades of Neoliberal capitalism destroying the world everywhere and the effects of it now becoming immediately experienced and recognizable:
This is the best the Right can do:
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youtube.com/watch?v=KVq9Lo1qlEg
And this is the best the Left can do

and it's not going to change any time soon.

Because it is simply in your nature.
It doesn't matter whether we are going to win or not.
I am always going to seek anarchism. Whether the odds are in my favour or not. I have no say in this matter. I do not choose who I am.

Wow the middle east is fighting itself Leftism prevails

Yeah?

tyler is that you

my point is that a faction of Leftists blowing out some group in the middle east doesn't matter

Until America and the EU are overtly Socialistic in economics and foreign policy no tiny victory in Russia's asshole is going to matter

Why not?

Is a small victory not still a victory?
Is a series of small victories not what paves the way to ultimate victory?

When you look at the history of libertarian uprisings and takeover it certainly would appear that that isn't the case

How so? Which other cases of series of small victories for the libertarian uprisings have seen save for isolated cases?

Bernie Sanders movement in America, for example, is huge.
There's really nothing to suggest that we're worse off than we were, say, 20 years ago. If anything the momentum is on our side and liberalism is dying in the west.

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Wonderful false equivalence you almost had me there

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not an argument

Explain why you think that's a false equivalence fallacy instead of just name dropping it like a pedantic faggot.

Because science and gommunism aren't the same thing

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I wasn't claiming that it was, my point was

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ITT: OP discovers that being hiply cynical is easy and decides to take the path of least resistance.

It's not about not supporting it its about it not happening in your lifetime so it doesnt matter if you support it or not


no i'm just sad that the world isn't going to be communist probably ever

Because change doesn't just roll in on the winds of inevitability. You have to struggle for it.

I don't buy the idea that the status quo is permanent at all. If this was the '90s, I might be disheartened by this Fukuyamaist bullshit, but with global capitalism stuck in a crisis it can't work itself out of, not even Fukuyama himself believes liberal democracy is the end of history anymore.

that's what all the socialists in the weimar republic said before it collapsed

The same republic where the SocDems sided with the proto-fascist Freikorps to stomp out the legitimate left movement?

that's the point

What's the point?

So it won't be my fault that the world is destroyed, because I tried. I can't do more.

what a pathetic reason to do something

Life is full of possibility's, death, not so much.

So I should buy into liberal delusion that 'you can change the world! :^)'?

no i'm just saying that whole attitude of "im going to do something so nobody can blame me for a problem that is empirically not my fault either way" is stupid

Humans who do nothing to change our broken system are partly responsible for the consequences.

I'm not doing it so nobody will blame me, when it happens people will scratch their heads and lament about how they could have ever seen it coming and ignore that anyway was trying to tell them, it's for my own gratification.

Let's not

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Why is leftypol so self defeating and fucking miserable?

Maybe you feel this way because you aren't even trying to make a change and bring about revolution. Or maybe you just aren't aware that history is a constant growth where changes made today can impact the future of the human race, and you see the revolution as pointless.

assuming this isn't one of the dozens of pol/ posters in disguise

Soooooo, how is it significantly different?

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Rojava begs to differ.

this.

There is strong science and data supporting the idea that the Earth revolves around the Sun. Not true with communism.

It's completely different. A neo-nazi could say the same thing. "What's the point of being a nazi if the world is just going to associate it with holocausts and they're too SJW to embrace it?"
"Dude its the same thing as like the world embracing strong data on how our solar system works"

How can you not despair when you look at the modern world, the failures of Socialism due to it being crushed, and now the current state of the left?

>youtube.com/watch?v=KVq9Lo1qlEg


Jesus Christ I've never seen the actual video. That is cringy af

Galileo didn't even have that much evidence in favour of heliocentrism. Neither did Copernicus.

They literally adhered to heliocentrism because they had a hunch, and also because it was "aesthetically pleasing" (Copernicus' words).

>youtube.com/watch?v=KVq9Lo1qlEg
Holla Forums is still triggered over a video of a random fucking protester

Observing the moons of Jupiter was a pretty good "hunch" that our planet was just one of many.

Was there "data" back then? I was under the impression he proved it mathematically

Did Lenin or other revolutionaries feel the same way?

Probably tbh, but that didn't stop them.

True, but that's because there's little to no opportunities for me to make a change

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So, Historical Materialism, is unscientific? Why?

Nazism IS unscientific and is BASED on pseudoscience and propaganda.

That's the whole point.

Communists disagree on everything EXACTLY because we want to get it right.

We got the "Systems change once they are slowing down progress and this change is done through class struggle" part right.

Did we get the "the next state has to be Communism through socialism" right?

We think so.

But unlike the earth, society is a spook. And this is why we cannot be objective about it.

But all sings point to rape Communism. Post-scarcity (strange how noone speaks about it anymore, hm?), automatization of production, the crisis of capitalism and how banking systems make them worse…

So, like Eratosthenes managed to tell the size of the earth, more or less, so we can create a better world, more or less.

The fact that exactly like Columbus didn't believe Eratosthenes, people choose not to believe Marx, doesn't mean he wasn't right about the fall of Capitalism, Class Struggle, Automation, surplus value and so on, even if bourgie economists don't want to see it.

That's what I ask myself every single day.


Because I'd say that there's a very big overlap between my politics and my depression.

Thats pretty arrogant and almost religious sounding, but I can't help but agree.

These videos are terrifying. I'm rooting for posadism at this point tbh fam. I wanna believe.

feels good man

muh american/eurocentrism