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French was the language of the elities at that time in russia

When Trofimovich speaks in French, it is dostoyevsky mocking the socialists of the day

they claimed to be of the people, yet they spoke a foreign tongue and in reality only had contempt for the russian people

Trofimovich was a living parody (constantly thinks the authorities are after him, thinks he's a revolutionary figure despite doing nothing, lives off a friend's money despite being in his fucking 50s, and a its a female friend at that) but I agreed with him about "another man's sins". No one wants to marry a used woman.

The Silmarillion
The Divine Invasion
The Master and Margarita
The Iron Dragon's Daughter
The Left Hand of Darkness

They are all parodies of different political positions of the day

Most significantly though, they can be separated into two main groups: Nihilists and the Believing

The epigraph at the beginning of the book (Pushkin and the bible verse) directly strike to the core of nihilism

The demons that have bewitched their way are nihilism and socialism

Starship Troopers
The Forever War
Meditations of Marcus Aurelius
Fate of Empires
My Side of the Mountain
Vom Kriege
A Clockwork Orange

Is Dostoyevsky really any good?

I considered his works, but they seemed very… 'mundane', and fiction in that vein usually bores me to tears - I can appreciate the need to express higher ideals through more simplistic, even mundane, characterizations, but the combination of a bleak Russian environ with largely mundane fictional storytelling may just not be my area of interest.

Dragonball

It's really dense literature, it's intended for true autists

I can't blame you for not wanting to read it, there are parts where nothing happens. Plus the russian style of literature demands that there are 10202394039402 characters that are all connected in 50 different ways

Bullshit. I read Brothers in 3 weeks earlier this summer. Now I'm already halfway through Tolstoy's War and Peace. I'm in love with the old Russian spirit, and it's another reminder that if you have evil in your hands: FUCKING KILL IT. Both the Czar and Hitler had jews at their disposal at one point or another, but both were too gentle and it was their and their millions of people's undoing.

Old Russian fiction prose is not that difficult to follow if the translation is good and if you aren't black. I was surprised how easy it was to get into because so many people say it's hard. The prose of Julius Evola or Savitri Devi I find pretty hard to follow, though.

Dense I don't mind.
Mundane to the point of developing narcolepsy is another story.

This is my primary concern.
Whenever I read some of these droning literary fiction pieces, its always comes off to me as dually pretentious and boring, which is rarely a good mix.
Reminds me of the movies you see Jews making constantly, wherein they tell this utterly mundane, largely uninteresting story, while trying to cram some greater meaning in, and it just comes off as lame.

This I wouldn't have a problem with, if the author can at least keep it interesting in terms of what's transpiring.
Just reading the wiki articles on some of these works, I'm already yawning.

About as decipherable as fucking Hegel

if its not for you, its not for you. It really is mostly for autists. I live them because of all the drama, but there are times where its really nothing but dudes sitting there talking.
In The Idiot, there is a part where a bunch of dudes just sit down to smoke and talk about current events and politics

If you want something really dark then read "House of the dead" by Dostoyevsky

It is basically a memoir from his time in a gulag.

He was arrested because in his youth he was a socialist, after a mock execution (they lined them up and counted down to the shots) the Czar sent him and others to Siberia.

On his train ride there an old lady gave him a bible which reformed him and made him a staunch nationalist/conservative in russia

Even the commies when they took over couldn't help but recognize Dostoyevsky as a fundamental pillar of modern russian literature

Eh, maybe I'll give this Demons a shot.

Tbh fam, a lot of these threads and tomes come off as very signally - it doesn't feel like this stuff meant for artists overall, it feels more like its meant for autists with lots of free time who want to signal.

Hell, within the last few weeks, I had two pseudo-"intellectual" types try to tell me to check out Dostoyevsky, but neither had much to offer other than to pine about how 'smart' the writing was, and in both cases it really felt like the chaps in question were just trying to signal how intelligent and cultured they were, as opposed to organic interest in the subject matter or valuable insight provided.

Social signaling for the lowest of lowest time preferences, know what I mean?

*meant for autists

Yeah I understand you.

Those people (even if they completely read it) don't get the full ramifications of the novels, I don't claim to fully understand either.

Personally I think he is one of the greatest novelists to ever have existed, but I didn't really enjoy reading some of those novels.

And for perspective I don't mind reading dull biographies of generals or books on the history of logistics

I find Dostoevsky's writing to be pretty schizophrenic, as his characters are mostly quite dramatic and always jumping around everywhere (in their words, emotions, and actions), so it's anything but mundane.

I'd imagine only hipsters are reading old Russian literature right now (for young people, that is), so there's no surprise you get those responses.

I just found Brothers so enjoyable because I enjoy getting a glimpse of what whites would create and were like before our cultures were so jewed. I love to glimpse into their worlds.

Tolstoy is much easier to get into, by the way, if such things interest you.

This about sums up the experience I expect.

Likewise.

Eh… Maybe I'm not expressing what I mean in this context effectively, or perhaps the 'dramatics' you refer to simply don't appeal to me or stir whatever it is that stirs you.

I find it very difficult to get interested in things that are… I don't know, the term 'mundane' is really what leaps out at me.
Just reading the synopsis for Demons, this is what I get from it:

I mean… The notion that such is going to be the foundation of some particularly-insightful work seems… well, it seems like it'd come off as incredibly pretentious.
But then, I suppose a lot of what is considered
'good literature' strikes me in that vein - I'm not keen on being preached to, especially not when it takes several hundred pages of listening to some effectively-nobody fictional character blather on about his inner thoughts or go about his day-to-day life.

if you're looking for drama as in shocking and exciting things happening, that's not really what Dostoyevsky is about. It's mostly dudes talking and dramatic interactions between characters

For example, The Idiot is all about a man who's incredibly naive and taken advantage of by people for it. He falls in love with a woman within a day of having met her, she runs away with another man that same night, and then he spends some time at an estate before meeting a new girl, and then having her run away from him after the first girl steps in between them. That's the entire main plot.

I'm almost done with The Turner Diaries.

Wew- no wonder the (((SPLC))) is buttblasted about this book. I'd heard for years that it's a shoddy piece of garbage only worth reading for a look into the deluded mindset of the far-right. Turns out it's actually a tense thriller with a lean, accessible prose style and a wry sense of humor, which may explain why it's sold so many copies. It's actually comical that Jews are so afraid of this over-the-top fantasy about Right Wing Death Squads that they've made it illegal to read in several countries.

So, you like grand epics in your fiction and not slice-of-life, not where it's more personal or narrowly focused on the inside of individual characters' lives, the psychological take? No problem with that. Like I said, my angle is I'm not necessarily expecting anything profound when I'm reading these books; I'm more just really interested in seeing their perspectives from back then, seeing what kind of people were produced, and then get just get caught up in the lives/drama of the various characters. Though I would say that both Tolstoy and Dostoevsky understood the immense amount of human motivations, fears, desires, emotions, intentions, and varying ways of seeing the world more than any other authors I've ever bumped into yet.

Anyways, that's just why I like these books. Good luck, user.

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pic related.

Bar that, the book that shaped my worldview was republic. If you're worth your salt, the book opens life up to you.

The Star Rover by Jack London.

Naked Lunch by William S Burroughs

bump

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his message is too deep.

For anyone interested in reading Russian literature, I recommend Gogol for beginners. His writings, and especially short stories are good entry level readings into the vast and sometimes complicated world of Russian characters and themes. I also highly recommend Dead Souls

Dostoevsky is sometimes dry, but the messages and the morals are there and the fruits are very rewarding. He also names the nose which is also a bonus.

how is endless reading going to prevent your people from going extinct?
what a waste

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The Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell
Mein Kampf stalag edition by you know who
Life of Pi
Neuromancer, Snow Crash, 1984, Brave New World
V for Vendetta
Most works by Grant Morrison, but specifically his Animal Man run and All Star Superman
Whatever the fuck book explains the Jungian archetypes

Demons is an excellent novel, Dostoevsky's work is a great red-pill against nihilism.

Any book from this chart is well-worth reading.

Wuthering Heights. Surprisingly great book.

OP, are you white? My answers are different if you are not white - since you wouldn't be interested in some of the choices.

If you like that read Matt Hale's new book, the racial loyalist manifesto. Also, Fame of a Dead man's deeds is a really good biography of William Pierce. There's a second book by Robert Griffin that is pretty good called "One Sheaf, One Vine: Racially Conscious White Americans Talk About Race". Both of Griffin's books are on library genesis.

What about Bulgakov? He's one of the writers that Yuri Bezmenov talks about in World Thought Police as being somewhat of a dissident writer. I downloaded The Master and Margarita but haven't read it yet.

Top kek

What are we dealing with here? Anti-nihilist like "dude nothing matters so let's just weed"?

serious question, why should anyone read Naked Lunch?

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anyone have the Giovanni Gentile book?

Look Who's Back (Er ist wieder da)

A satirical novel about Hitler mysteriously waking up in modern day Germany and accidentally getting into show-business as a Hitler impersonator. Widely criticized for painting Hitler as a human being as opposed to a comic book villain, its not exactly redpilled but its not entirely blue either.

Also the ending is happy for both Hitler and those around him. unlike the movie adaptation, we can't have a happy ending for Hitler on the silver screen

If you haven't already, read this classic

it's so well written

I recently finished this book and I definitely recommend it. the part where hitler has all studio heads joining in with his sieg heiling is amazing

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Here are a few good novels:
Moby Dick.
The Count of Monte Cristo.
Robinson Crusoe.
The Day of the Jackal.
Das Boot.

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I like trash fiction such as Sexton Blake, and various old British story papers and comics (I have an unbroken run of The Boys' Friend from May 1902 to October 1904), so naturally I gobbled the Turner Diaries up as soon as I could.
It's like a race war version of that "aaaaand it's gone" bit in South Park, they liberate LA, set up an all-white community, then the Soviet Union erases it with a nuke.
If you liked that, try the Northwest Front books, too. The Northwest Front is an actual movement to create a white homeland in the northwestern four states of the USA. A lot of people in the WN movement don't seem to like the idea (this is acknowledged in the books, the author semi-self-inserts himself as a cranky old man who "has issues with ducks"), but I think it sounds pretty feasable. Make state control over part of a country untenable, through guerrilla warfare, and force them to the table.
Anyway, the books are mostly about this revolution,though a few are set in the times of consolidation afterwards. The only one I've read all the way through is set 40 years after the race war, though it is mostly just a bunch of overlong conversations where the characters speak more to the reader than to each other. But I enjoyed it… honestly!

The Hand That Holds the World

by C.R. McMahon

He wrote the novella for Holla Forums. It's pretty good.

Where the fuck do you think you are? There's maybe five percent of non-white users on this board. Four percent are trolls and the remaining one percent admire White Nationalism and would have no problem reading WN literature.

Anyway, adding my memetic energy to >>>/pdfs/ shilling. Almost everything a Holla Forumslack could ever need there.

Here's a MEGA with (I believe) all the books in these two images. (two images too large, you only get one) I copied the link down a couple months ago but I think it's still good.

mega(dot)nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg

For the love of God read Plato's Four dialogues on the trial and death of Socrates (Euthyphro, Apology, Crito and Phaedo).

It's only about 115 pages long and it acts as a good foundation for all philosophy you will ever read. It's also quite enjoyable.

Don't read Republic until you've read the dialogues on Socrates death. You need to understand Socrates to understand Republic.

Ya'll are fuckin' casuals.

Nietzsche is not that great tbh.

Honestly I doubt most Holla Forumsacks are intelligent enough to comprehend Nietzsche. You need a hell of a lot of philosophical background to understand him properly.

I started with Nietzche and got maybe half of what he was trying to say. Most of it seemed like poetic flair. The theories didn't crystallize until I read Evola talking about Nietzche, and Evola isn't exactly entry-level either.

I'm not an expert in philosophy yet, so maybe you can answer this question better than I. For the essential Holla Forumslack, what's the best starting point?

Some good recommendations in this thread, but generally you put the cart before the horse.

First, you need to learn to read properly in the first place. No, I'm serious - very few people nowadays are able to read analytically, which is absolutely requiered to read high-level books.

First, study the Trivium. It can be hard, but without these intellectual tools you'll always remain a first-grader when it comes to things of the mind.

Secondly, study (not simply read - study) Mortimer Adler's "How to read a book".

Without this foundations, don't even think about reading the Classics, or anything else of substance.

Champagne socialists trying to start le revolution.

Basically %95 Whale anatomy and %5 storyline.
It must have been great when whales were more mysterious and seemed more powerful then they appear now. Great story, and Ahab's monomania is one of the most powerful character traits I can think of in classic American literature. But man, some parts are dull as hell.

bump for short stories of SAKI
deliciously funny book
some of those stories nearly killed me with laughter

requires a basic understanding of classical education/culture though

Letters from a Stoic by Seneca

It's just a collection of letters in the Stoic philosophy. I haven't read it yet, but I'm interested in the philosophy, and I think it is a good philosophy.

gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=0D7E70B51F9B88E7742ECEDDE8520617