The economics of Donald Trump’s wall

The economics of Donald Trump’s wall

DONALD TRUMP is a man of ideas. Although critics have lambasted him for flip-flopping on some policies (he now proposes to ban immigrants from "terrorist nations" rather than all Muslims), Mr Trump has stood firm on at least one proposal: his wall. A new report from Bernstein Research looks at the economics of the wall's construction.

The border between the United States and Mexico stretches 1,989 miles (3,200km), but the wall itself needn’t be as long thanks to the preponderance of natural borders such as the Rio Grande. Assuming a length of 1,000 miles and a height of 40 feet (12 metres), Bernstein reckon that the wall would require $711m worth of concrete and $240m worth of cement. Including labour, the total cost of between $15 billion and $25 billion is a bit more than Mr Trump's suggested $10 billion. (Bernstein’s estimates presumably do not factor in Mr Trump’s construction expertise.)

As it is not economically feasible to transport cement and concrete across great distances, the biggest business beneficiaries will likely be within 200 miles of the border. America has many more factories and quarries than Mexico, yet Mr Trump is adamant that the wall will be built with Mexican money. Cemex, a Mexican firm with around half the quarries close to the border, is likely to profit. At least some will benefit from the wall’s construction.

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I have to wonder, do these jews actually not understand the idea of Mexico paying for the wall by cutting off their illegals' remittances, or do they get it and are just blindly pushing the narrative?

STEP 1: Axe the retarded F-35.
STEP 2: Use all that budget to buy steel.
STEP 3: Buy all the steel on the planet for several years with said budget.
STEP 4: Gaze at a magnificent stainless steel wall 16ft thick 100ft high covering the ENTIRE LENGTH of the border.

get the chinks to build it like they built the railroads back in the day

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Step 1: Realize that the F-35 budget is used to fund secret military projects that alphabet agencies do not want congress to know about
Step 2: Build wall

STEP 1: BUILD WALL

This

Cement walls are so last century.

JSF/F-35 is not as bad as its made out to be by a lot of people. Stupidly overbudget? Yes. Should have been cancelled a decade ago? Absolutely. Unfathomably stupid design issues? Hell yes, it has those too. But with where its at now, it would be a waste to abort it. If nothing else we can (and already have) sell it to other nations.

I've personally worked on: F-18s, F-16s, F-5s, F-22s, and yes, F-35s. There are some real merits to the F-35, mostly in the EA/EW side of things.

I am ready for a F-35 thread

Its always the latter. There is no word for Integrity in hebrew

Every one of Trump's "flip-flops" can be explained by misreadings or misunderstandings of his earlier statements

Whatever the problems are, Trump will fix them soon enough anyway. We'll see.

I just hope that Old America won't be sent on a suicidal war against Russia and China in order to destroy any potential alliance against the kikes - working planes or not.

I'm so ready for this wall. Not only will it save us from all the shitskins illegally crossing, and drugs being smuggled which go to our cities and hurting many lives, but it will also be magnificent.

Trump builds things that are efficient and also attractive. This wall is going to look great and it'll end up being a landmark and symbol of this country like the statue of liberty for example. The Great Wall of China is a beautiful wall and it is also a symbol of China.

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the numbers are easy.

Take 10% of all money transfers from US to Mexico, and the wall's paid for in 3 years.

like i care if they starve

Have you seen poor people in mexico?

They're pretty fat thanks to ebul american corporations giving them cheap food


t. pablo

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Source: Bernstein


Jews, it's time for a new relationship with the west. We help you with israel, you stop antagonizing our right to exist. Together we can rule the world.

Walls work.

This sentence is nonsensical, # of factories & quarries has no correlation with making messihole pay for it.


Nonsensical conclusion based on nonsensical correlation.

Trump hasn't flipflopped on a single thing. Its just retards couldn't understand what he was saying so he had to reword it.

Extreme vetting of migrants from terrorist areas amounts to a total shutdown of migration from the middle east, most of south east Asia and much of south america.

$80 BILLION IN WELFARE TO ILLEGALS EVERY YEAR

DEPORT THEM ALL AND THE WALL IS PAID FOR IN SIX MONTHS, EVEN UNDER THE MOST EXPENSIVE PLANS

Over 2000 years of history proves that you can't trust kikes to respect their end of the bargain. They all have to burn.

donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall

Compelling Mexico to Pay for the Wall

IMO the only benefit to the F35 will be the incorporation of its tech into future platforms.

I concur with


Shitty shill tier op, shitty shill tier thread.. This is now an F35 and power armor :^) thread

GPS is possible due to equations Einstein formulated. Don't be a teenager about reality.

Are you talking about drug cartels and guerrillas? Cause as far as I know we aren't dealing with muslim terrorists at the moment except for those arrested terrorist groups in Brazil.

(((Bernstein)))

That doesn't mean Mexicans will do the construction user. Trump has stated on more than one occassion that "[He] will build the wall." Remember, this thing has to last for generations. It will be constructed by Americans.

The Mexican government will have to pay the cost of it if they want to do any business here in America is the point.

Hi Hillary shill.

Ahem…
en.metapedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein

This.

Tesla did a whole lot more for physics than the schizo Jew ever could dream up. Yet all we hear about is fucking Einstein. He couldn't even do the math required for his theories, someone else did it and the kike got all credits for it. All of them need to go, no ifs, ands or buts.

WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE

For every (((einstein))) there are thousands of European scientists that got memory-holed by zionists.
polite sage for offtopic

No SUPERSEKRIT military project can bring more strategical gain than literally impeaching anyone to build anything because you're buying all the steel there is.

Simply not true. And attempting to demean Einstein's contributions to physics makes you look amateurish tbh. Relativity alone has literally revolutionized all humanity's outlook on creation, to say nothing of Quantum Mechanics–a field he directly started.

How's you're Tensor Calculus skills

1. Build wall
2. Mexican GNP soars so, even if they could somehow get over, most will no longer see a need to
3. ??? Trump's head goes up on Mt. Rushmore
4. Profit

Main problem with an all-metal structure would be thermal expansion and rust, would it not?

So? When we are free from the kikes we can actually celebrate intelligence and knowledge. The sky isn't even the limit for a white civilization. But if we don't get rid of the parasites we probably will just end up like Rome or the Neanderthals.

I was like you but then I opened my mind about Einstein.

He was a total zionist, very connected to jewry (as a jew himself) and most of these jewish physicists were perverted, mentally ill, and very strange.

Daily reminder:
That's how much money America wastes on subhuman filth just because of fee-fees ;_;

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so *when* Trump gets elected what industries besides concrete would be good to invest in based off this?

Energy independence is not just a matter of personal autonomy, it is also a matter of national security.

Orly? I thought god didn't play dice?

(((Einstein))) plagiarised the work of other physicists. He was a failed wannabe engineer. The (((Nobel))) committee also awarded (((Israel Klein))) for discovering insulin, even though it was discovered by a slavaboo. Get fucked, nigger.

I don't understand user, when did "Shit Free Space Posting" become relevant to the f-35? Is it a new capability with its on board computer?

Living in Israel and parasitising the Chinese?

I agree. Thanks for making my point for me.

Cheaper than the $111 trillion that illegal immigration costs each year.

What the fuck.
Does that include Germany, France, the UK, Sweden and others?

It's an elastic term, like terrorist

steal,wood and vehicles, all needed to build a wall.

Memes r reel

Build a bulletproof glass wall.
Mexicans can look at the inside of the US and think "boy, I wish I lived there!", Americans can look at Mexico and vomit.

That's a shitty idea, we don't want them even considering coming here, build machine gun nests and a mine field. That or dig out a channel, charge top dollar for beach side property in Arizona and a toll for ships that wish to pass through.

I bet there's going to be tons of pozzed individuals trying to sabotage the wall with classic monkeywrenching.

Seems like there will be a lot of work for private security firms and insurance detectives hunting down those types.

I'd gladly kill antifa who try and sabotage the wall.

90 miles is the distance for transport where maximum cost effectiveness really is but there is a plant in Missouri, last I was there it was the largest is the world(about 6 years ago) on the Mississippi River, so longer distance transport is quite economical. I'm not in the concrete industry per se but I'll get some good work out of this.

STEP 5: Make the top a highway for DeLoreans only.

There is not a single doubt in my mind that it will come to that.

Not tall enough

Trumps own estimate is actually a tad high.

It all depends on timescale really.

This isn't a flip-flop. It bans more people, and removing the word "muslim" seems to have confused people.

OH BOY DID SOMEONE MENTION THE F-35?

The wall isn't enough.

We need to deport all family reunification/anchor baby 'tards who can't prove their grandparents came in legally, like the Dominican Republic did to Haiti.

We also need to abolish birthright citizenship, following the lead of India of all fucking places.

And since I'm now saying we should acknowledge the precedents of other countries, we also need to start caning illegal fence jumpers in the buttocks, just like Singapore!

Mexican here, I do hope Trump wins and the wall is built but hope he realizes that we do not have the money nor resources to make it. Instead he should pay us and give the resources to build it. It is done and with the payment of the wall we become wealthy enough that we no longer have the need to border jump the US.

I see a mention of Cemex, don´t let them get involved in everything, sure they are THE concrete company of the North, but they are more busy with their soccer teams than actually giving a crap for the wall. Have all Mexican companies and firms build the wall, not just Cemex.

Also, lately I read an article about someone here in Mexico; suggesting to also build a wall in the south border. And it is true, many central americans who cross throughout Mexico to get into the States, are also a trouble for us (we are such hypocrites; we want to borderjump into the US yet we fucking hate central americans for using us as a bridge into the US). It would be great if Trump pays us to build that other wall.

As for a wall for Canada, not sure as that is not on our side.

Top kek m8 saved

No. America is going to design and build the wall itself. Your government is going to pay for it's construction, and we won't be paying you.

Would you rather have Guatemala design, build, and be funded with Mexican money to secure your southern border?
Didn't think so.

Okay

It could if the kebab problems aren't dealt with, sure.

How deep should the wall go? They do a lot of tunneling these day I'd guess that would ramp up. Many of the tunnels you are probably in deep risk just using them but still. I don't know enough about how hard or wet the land gets beyond the top layer.

Down to the water table at least.

It shitposts pictures of hamburgers to the enemy MFD's.

Step 7: Don't get anywhere near it when there's a lightning storm anywhere nearby.

Not sure how serious he was >Instead he should pay us and give the resources to build it.

You useless cunts can't even build proper bathrooms, why would anybody let you retards build anything?

Gibs won't make you wealthy, though.

If they paid some lump sum of money it'd get shit away just like all of the foreign aid and other gibs and the country would in the end be in the same spot.

Have to produce things of actual worth. It's why Iceland is better off than any African country despite Iceland existing in a not very nice to live in place with few natural resources.

What do you expect?

Mexico is gonna pay for it.
They're not gonna pay themselves into their own factories and workers, americans are gonna do the work and get paid their money for it.

And the amount spent on illegals is astronomical, to the point that kicking them all out for a single year single handedly pays for the way.
Not that the saved money from deporting them is the money used to build it, that's coming from mexico.

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Heat makes metal expand?

Now who's talking mumbo jumbo?

THERMAL EXPANSION

I hope you're not joking.

Think you missed the "stainless" part of that

If you aren't joking you should seriously consider suicide.

I still don't fully understand how thermal expansion played a part in that episode.

Shinji got a hard on. That's what played a part.

Oh and that angel exploded by being supercooled inside of a lava pit.

STEP 8: Laugh hysterically as the sun reflects off the wall, melting buildings and people

Aw shit I completely forgot they used the coolant and didn't just stab it in the red sphere. Side note, what are those red spheres aside from convenient weak points?

I can get behind that.

The reason it doesn't rust is because of the chromium. Once that chips away, which would certainty happen to a fucking wall of all things, it starts rusting. Too expensive to make thick walls and upkeep. The cheapest and most effective way is the reinforced concrete. Easy to maintain, cheap to make, and very effective.

Could galvanize it.

Not happening. Maybe if Trump cut medicare and all the other dumb socialism bullshit, yeah. But he has stated in the past he's not cutting dem programs.

But I do agree, it would simply be cheaper and stronger to go the reinforced concrete route. Might even get to field test some of the keval concrete composites we have been playing with.

That would be significantly more expensive than just reinforced concrete though.

He won’t really have a choice. They’ll be bankrupt before he leaves office.

That'd be interesting, pretty expensive though.


I hope he does cut dem programz significantly. Socialism does not work. We spend the equivalent of late 19th century Europe's annual GDP every year on socialism and it's done nothing to improve the situation.

Imagine if you went up to that faggot Marx and told him in the future that Europe's annual GDP gets redistributed to the poor every year, and it did absolutely nothing to solve poverty?

Tell your bosses that you need better talking points. You bullshit bingo picture might work on Facebook, but not here.

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He’d say, “What the fuck do I care? Marxism is for the goyim.”

There exists violence against God in the pseudo-sapient Marxist-Leninists, who have taken away the spiritual values from humanity. Regarding them, there comes into my memory in these moments an encounter with Karl Marx within the submerged worlds. I found Karl Marx within those tenebrous regions. That individual had awakened in evil and for evil. Nonetheless, he is a fallen Bodhisattva. Lenin, unconsciously and profoundly asleep like an ominous shadow, was following him. I questioned Marx with the following words, “It has been many years since you died, thus your body became dust within the tomb. Nonetheless here I find you alive within these regions. What happened then to your dialectical materialism?”
Karl Marx, while looking at his wristwatch, did not dare to give me any sort of answer, but turned around and withdrew. However, a few meters away he shouted a sarcastic and horrifying guffaw. By means of intuition I managed to capture the living essence of that sarcastic guffaw, since in it was his answer, which we could summarize in the following phrase: “That dialectic was nothing but farce, a dish in order to deceive naïve people.”
It is intriguing to know that when Karl Marx died, he received the religious funerary honors of a great rabbi.
In the First International Communist gathering, Karl Marx took the floor and said, “Gentlemen, I am not Marxist.” There was surprise among the audience, loud shouts, and from there many political sects were born, namely, Bolsheviks, Mencheviks, Anarchists, Anarchist-Unionist, etc. It is therefore quite interesting to know that the first enemy of Marxism was Karl Marx. In a magazine from Paris, one can read the following:
“By means of the triumphant worldly proletariat, we will create the Universal Soviet Socialist Republic with its capital in Jerusalem. In this way we will take possession of the wealth of all nations. This is how the prophecies of our holy prophets of Talmud will be fulfilled.”
Indeed, these were not phrases uttered by a materialist nor by an atheist, but by Marx, a Jewish religious fanatic. Understand, I am not criticizing political matters through this lecture. I am emphatically and essentially addressing occult matters. Indeed, Karl Marx, moved by religious fanaticism, invented a destructive weapon in order to reduce all religions of the world to cosmic dust. That weapon is without a doubt a ‘jargon’ that can never withstand an in-depth analysis. By ‘jargon’ I refer to the dialectical materialism.
The intellectual loafers know very well that Karl Marx manipulated Hegel’s “metaphysical dialectic” in order to elaborate that deceptive “dialectical materialism.” Evidently, Karl Marx took from Hegel’s work all the metaphysical principles that Hegel gave to his work, and with the leftovers Karl Marx elaborated his deceptive dish. Thus, it is not irrelevant to repeat in this lecture that Marx, as the author of such a lie, of such a farce, of such Communistic dialectic, never believed in it, and therefore he did not have any inconvenience in confessing his feelings in the heat of the assembly when saying, “Gentlemen, I am not Marxist.”
Undoubtedly, this gentleman fulfilled one of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion that literally states, “When we come into our kingdom it will be undesirable for us that there should exist any other religion… We must therefore sweep away all other forms of religion. It does not matter if for our means, we have to fill the world with materialism and repugnant atheism, since the day we become triumphant, we will universally preach the religion of Moses that, by its codified and thoroughly dialectical system will bring all the peoples of the world into subjection to us.”
Concerning this, I am not condemning any race in particular. I am frankly addressing some Semitic personages with Machiavellian plans. They are Marx, Lenin, Stalin, etc. Sequentially, from a rigorously occultist point of view, I could evince that the cited fallen Bodhisattva struggled in his own way on behalf of divinity, using for his means a cunning weapon in order to destroy the other religions. Marx was a priest, a rabbi from the Jewish religion, a faithful devotee of the doctrine of his ancestors. Indeed, what is astounding is the credulity of the fools who–believing themselves to be erudite–fall into the skeptical snare set by Karl Marx. These naive people from the Marxist-Leninist dialectical materialism obviously become violent against divinity. Thus, for such a reason they enter into the seventh Dantesque circle.
– Samael Aun Weor

Assuming it cost 22$ per square feet to galvanize your steel (seems to be commercial after market price for such things) to galvanize the 1,989 miles long 100ft tall 16ft thick steel wall would cost $53 601 799 680.

That's 2,68% of the F-35 program. You have 97,32% of the budget left to build your steel wall.

Yes the F-35 program is that much.

Hell you can probably build a wall ALL AROUND THE US if you stick to Israeli size galvanized steel of 25ft high and 4ft thick with that money.

But what kind of galvanization are we talking about? Because there's many methods of galvanization, and some are extremely easy to just chip off.

We really need to dump the fucking F-35 program though. That shit is retarded. Almost as retarded as social programs.

All Muslim nations are terrorist nations. So he hasn't backed down on anything.

There is no way the F-35 has eaten through that much money. Everyone understand this right?

Why not build the hyperloop on it?

We could even build a cargo version that connects the ports of Miami,LA,and NYC which are the largest in the nation.

I think this is an amazing idea.

For a couple of reasons. It gives incentive to defend it and lets the government prosecute any retard leftist trying to destroy or undermine it as a terrorist. It gives a function to the wall other than keeping illegals out. It makes it so now even if a retarded lefty president got into office, they can't take it down because now it's an important part of the infrastructure.

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Oh boy, now you've done it. Thunderfoot loves to make videos debunking shitty kickstarter scams, but this week he turned his gaze towards debunking the hyperloop.

Brace for butthurt.

I calculated with the priciest of course.

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this

birthright citizenship made sense when developing america as a new nation. it doesn't anymore

Isn't the F-35 development up to like $800,000,000,000 dollars and still can't fly in the rain?

Don't even know what the hyperloop is. You don't need to use the hyperloop, you can just get the bullet train, like what they got in Japan.


Really? Well I guess it could be some of the good stuff then.


Actually US Marines could do it technically. But that's the reason why, because of some act passed back during Reconstruction. Thanks Grant.

The Hyperloop is a retarded idea. How are you going to make a tube that can support a vacuum for thousands of miles?
What happens if it breaks down? You are stuck in a metal tube… that is also a vacuum.

Bullet/Maglev trains would work nicely.

That money either never existed or has been spent elseware.

user it's [CURRENT YEAR] projected cost is somewhere between 1.5 and 2 trillions… $2,000,000,000,000.

As previously said just using said money to buy materials is enough to ensure no fucking one on the planet can build anything with even an ounce of steel in it. No buildings, no cars, no railways, no ships, nothing but the Wall.

For years.

BIG
BEAUTIFUL
POWERFUL
WALL

it's easier than you think


the tube doesn't contain a total vacuum, just lower pressure on one side and higher pressure on the other side. if it breaks down then you fix it, like anything else. do you have brain problems?

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It's the "core" where their S2 engine is contained. Basically a perpetual motion machine/infinite power source for the angels/MPEs and later E-01. Cut the power source, kill the angel. AKA fruit of life

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Who's saying stainless steel is galvanized iron?

B-but they promised to make it cheaper! We need to axe it now or face another hundred billion dollars down the drain. I am sure there are hundreds of wasteful shit we can stop funding just in the military and save shitloads

Pretty sure you did, because you clearly have no idea how stainless steel actually works. If you scratch off the chromium oxide layer, it instantly heals itself by reacting with the air before the iron does. Plus chromium oxide is pretty darn tough.

Also chromium oxide doesn't react with the elemental iron like iron oxide does.

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>posting in a shillary thread
>bumping mr (1) who was paid to post here
>not realizing there's a massive shillary operation underway at the moment

The chromium can chip off numbnuts.

I know how stainless steel works. It has chromium, not zinc like galvanized steel.

It will likely not save us from the drug rings. The CIA imports drugs directly into the American market for help with sting operations and to continue the kike plan of societal degradation.

Make it out of stuff that will rust and EVERYONE will be scared shitless to go anywhere near the great wall of tetanus infections

You know stainless steel is an alloy, right? You can't just "chip off" some of the carbon in steel.

Low grade stainless steel CAN rust, but that's when it's below ~10% or if it gets wet/salty often


It changes your impenetrable fortress wall into a large pile of shale that a team of a dozen men could take down in a day with basic tools.

I'm so pissed we didn't get President Polk's proposed lines in the Treaty of Hidalgo.
At least Baja CA, which he insisted we get, would have made this project so much easier.
Nicholas Trist is a traitor.

Fun fact: Congress and the President both passed and signed documents affirming that image related was to be the southern border and ordered it done during G-H.
The TRAITOR Nicolas Trist negotiated for less. When this was discovered, he was recalled and a new ambassador was rushed to Mexico City. But Trist ignored the recall and the paper was signed by the time the new ambassador arrived.

WE SHOULD HAVE RIPPED THE MOTHERFUCKER UP AND DEMANDED THE REST

OOH! Another fun fact. Did you know that the Yucatan (unrelated to the Mexican-American War) was not annexed by the US due to LIES told to Congress by A SINGLE PERSON?

It’s true!
theyucatantimes.com/2015/07/yucatan-usa/

Now that really pisses me off. Imagine how much richer and more powerful we would be with Yucatan. The archeological discoveries about the Mayans would take place on US soil, and tourism would have been fantastic.
AND we would have been able to send much better and more archeologists and colonists to take advantage.
Not to mention trade over the entire Gulf.
Fuck.

Democrats wanted to annex the entire thing, by the way.
This was a reasonable compromise.

The Wall will help Mexico more than American, if people don't realize it…

1933 was quite a year

Here's to hoping that kind of activity stops during a Trump administration. One of my great hopes is that he cleans up washington. What better way to cement your legacy and win over the rest of the Americans distracted by the media's portrayal of Trump

don't need stainless steel. How much stainless do you think is in a sky scraper?

yes

You're a retard. Stainless steel is a HOMOGENEOUS alloy (meaning all mixed together very well). It is not coated in chromium. You are correct about the reinforced concrete though.

You wouldn't need to. You could use sacrificial anodes or impressed current to keep it from oxidizing.

I agree. The worst part is there are anons who don't know that there is steel that can be strong and quenched (like carbon steel) while still being stainless.

great way to have a shitty building.

smart guy

I watched a video before that claimed the best way to create trumps wall would be mostly pre cast concrete panels and a guard tower every x feet.

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So basically Marxism is kikestianity 2.0. Huh. Hopefully it doesn't turn into another 2000 year slow disease.

Let's be real, even if Trump does a stellar job, better than any one of us could have ever hoped, and leads America to a new era of prosperity, lefties will STILL regard him as worse than Hitler. They will, at best, begrudgingly admit that he put a lot of people to work when he built The Wall.

Maybe in a hundred years the textbooks will speak well of him. But until this generation dies off, he'll always be seen as the guy that embodies everything wrong with America.

we'd also be filled with millions of spics from the get go, which I believe was one of the main reasons the US didn't expand further into Mexico

Trump isn't good enough to fix America (which would take full nation-wide ethnic cleansing). He's a stepping stone in the right direction

Yes, look at all illiteracy, sick people healed by travelling snake oil salesmen, rotten meat/food, 12 hour workdays and kids employment.

Are you all 15 and don't know how life looked like before the "ebil socialism" came and gave your grandparents simplest rights?.

The Conservatives brought in the minimum wage in the UK, amongst other supposed "socialist" policies.
>>>Holla Forums
You historically illiterate retard.

Oh, and the things you claim were stopped by socialism were all but non-existent. Which is why I referred you to hang out with the others who believe life before Marx was hell.

I came

2,457 aircraft planes time $130M+ (which is what they cost now and Lockheed has never managed to make any cost on any plane go down… Up they know down never) is already $368B. +$55B in RD (and counting) you're already at half a trillion for naked planes.

Yes it is, Lockheed PR says it's under 100M hell even bellow 80M but the projected procurement budget for them is still way over 300B no matter which projection you pick (basic maths 300000/2500= 120). Remember how those were intended to replace the cheap F-16? You can buy half a squadron of F-16 for ONE F-35. This kills the entirety of NATO European air-fleets (the F-16 being cheap as fuck allows all the small countries to maintain a decently sized air-force… Now they will have to do with 6 planes the work of 36. Even if it was an OK plane… it would need to fire Jesus Himself to make up for that gap).

BTW you do realize that in today dollars 2 Trillions is:
HALF THE COST OF WWII FOR THE US

That's how absurd the whole thing is. And compared to that: "Oh noes Trump Wall is gonna cost us money". Israel built 440 miles of wall (*kof* on US taxpayer money *kof kof*) in a few years, how the fuck is a wall 4 times that (assuming you do everything and don't take advantage of the fucking Rio Grande or the bits already there) is gonna bankrupt America???

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One on the board

Hyperloop should stop at Charleston too. Quite a gap there.

Build the wall, close it all!

Spending-fallacy

Just because you shot yourself in the leg once doesn't mean that you have to empty rest of the magazine into your leg.

Considering setting up a traveling catering service, discounts for wall workers.

That's a shitload of a surplus.

How exactly could one government use that money to deflate the economy?

This is flawed from the start. 12 metres isn't particularly high, especially considering that you don't just build a wall from the ground up. A significant portion of that height needs to be below ground both for structural integrity and to stop people just digging beneath it.

Dunno. Take it out of circulation maybe?

Personally I'd spend it all on infrastructure projects. The USA has a fuckton of crumbling roads and bridges. Especially bridges, the USA's bridges are all exceedingly atrocious. They weren't built well to begin with (since for some reason yanks can't build bridges) and have never received much in the way of upkeep.

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Imagine if it derailed on the border and people flew in to Mexico.

Academia was always a joke.
Only filthy Marxists want to stop Natural Selection, slowing the rate of evolution.
Last I checked, Karl didn't invent the fridge.
Fuck your shit. Children should have their coming of age be with puberty, and not this academic crap that only turns them into manchildren with downs and autism.

I hope Trump pulls all of that back, just so we can be back to the old days, or at least as close to that as we can get.

Daily reminder that Karl Marx robbed you of an earlier adulthood.

Stop using the internet, retard.

If we could remove the spics, then I'd be all for it

Since it wouldn't exactly be legal to burn money, would it be legal to mark them as forfeit, and then burn them, and if perchance, would it also be legal to burn "traitors" on top of them, maybe as a public event?

Well it mostly wouldn't be physical money anyways. Since taxes are primarily paid via bank transfer.

Trump may be an abstainer, but he isn't an annoying teetotaler like yourself, preaching to the crowd.

This country's made for people who'd like to burn a shrub in their mouth, so you best learn to respect that freedom.

This Wall is the ultimate act of cucking: "You will build a wall for us along our border, which you will pay for, in order to to prevent yourself from coming into our country". You can't possibly get cucked harder than that. Mexico on suicide watch.

Of course that's what I'm implying. The whole shebang. Military escorts, and all.

Darn. Seemed a bit too grandeur, anyway, though burning criminals on top of fed notes seems pretty radical, regardless.

Never go full retard, user.
Better way is to reform the academic system and cut off the jewry involved with study loans.
Having a academic life never fucked the white people in the long run, until Marxists took over and use it as a subversion machine to brainwash our youth.
Scientific, technological development are one of the pillars,aside economics and politics, needed to not be another third wolrd shithole.

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Nope. That's not how you spell water delivery systems. Our pipes are losing enough water that the CA drought could have easily been avoided if they were maintained.

Why not let the wall pay for itself?

dubs confirms
donald trump is just the beginning of the trump dynasty, he's got an amazing family that could rule for ages - baron has my vote to start the true revolution

I think in general its safe to say that ALL of the USA's infrastructure is falling apart.

This is what happens when you leave private enterprise in control of vital civil infrastructure.

Steel would be overkill. It would cost too damn much, and it would heat up like a motherfucker along that border. Unless your plan is to burn the hands of immigrants who try to climb the wall

I think this whole wall thing is for the US to regain control of the drug trade.

:-(

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I probably need to check again, but to my most recent understanding, China managed to build a wall that is a little over two millenia ago, twice as long as the US/Mexico border. Logically speaking, it should be much easier to process the logistics necessary to construct The Wall.

If it's so easy to believe that Hitler personally Holocausterized over six million Jews within a decade, what makes it so hard to believe that Trump can arrange rebar and other inanimate materials into the shape of a wall within one or two terms?

Well the great wall of China was built over 900 years as a number of different projects.

Essentially they just kept making walls to cover routes that invaders took into China. Until it got to the stage where they all joined up into one big wall.

You could live in the US under Kikes and think this is a masterful power ploy.


China's wall was too stop horses, and is actually a bunch of separate walls built to, again, keep horses out.
Its basic job was to keep the Mongols from being able to use cavalry effectively, and give time for the messengers to say we're under attack.

Today, there is radio and original brand southwest Americans don't use horses.
I mean maybe they have a secret burro army ready to eat the grassy plazas of Las Vegas, but I'm not really seeing it.
They make too much money being gardeners to just throw it all away like that.

Still think it's gonna be on Mexico's southern border

Buy stocks in the company that supplies the materials guys.

Doubtful, Americas whites only policy only ended in the 1960s.

What? I'm talking about when the US was warring with Mexico back in the 19th century. I believe one of the main reasons they didn't annex more of Mexico, was because they didn't want to suddenly be full of non-whites

Israeli company shows interest in making Trump's US-Mexico border wall a reality

jpost.com/US-Elections/Israeli-company-shows-interest-in-making-Trumps-US-Mexico-border-wall-become-relaity-462999

The Jew plays the game with gray chess pieces. Imagine if it were goy contractors potentially making billions to construct the American great wall; all dose shekels going to non chosen people, oy vey it would be audda shoah

Multiply the number of times Trump endured ZOG spiel x 10 feet higher

IT'S A SPACE ELEVATOR WALL FOLKS!

They already have one.
THis is the overflow and Canadian entries.


Also because if the Mexicans walked away, Spain would have gotten much more mobilized, same as with Cuba.
We had the advantage of being at the far end of their supply lines, but if we pushed, their commitence would have overwhelmed the US.
Its only post WW1 that we really got our military something useful, also why earlier there was the Great White Fleet.

Gave me a headache tbh

You got me I'm a hillfiremissile now

if you have the time, research the Israeli company that wants to build Trump's wall (magal)

pretty amazing the strategic sites they're responsible for securing around the world

Its like you are a shill or something

Its funny how goy sites secured by Israeli companies tend to be severely attacked.

Would a minefield would be cheaper?

The money is already spent dog, cancelling it at this point would be an even bigger waste of money.

All the really heavy work was done by 4 other physicists: Lorentz, Gauss, Riemann, and Mach.

Einstein was a smart boy for putting it all together, but you faggots asserting that "without Einstein we would not have relativity" are the worst kind of scientifically illiterate faggots.

San Diegan here, the one thing that pisses me off the most lately is when my bluepill friends talk about the tunnelers.

"The wall won't do anything, they'll just tunnel under it"

Every. Single. Argument. These faggots are totally happy to say, "Yeah, there's a problem, but why even try to fix it? It's gonna happen no matter what.".

Aside from pic related, what would be the best way to secure underneath the wall?

Not having an underneath the wall area.
Sure it take noneuclidian geometry, but that's what Denver Airport and the LHC are for.

Probably a string of tunneling detection devices with a quick reaction border patrol group

We made that mistake once, never again.

We aren't Jews - we will build it ourselves.

And Mexico will pay for it.

Its simple really - a deep foundation and seismographs at intervals along the wall, plus aerial radar imaging via drones.

Tunneling will not be an option, and anyone who brings that up should be immediately and viciously decries and ridiculed for not having even a basic understanding of the scientific methodology at our disposal in such context.

IOW?
Point at them and laugh.

So what about the towns and cities right on the border in both places?

You know the ones they're using right now.

Wilderness tunnels are easy to counter, its the city ones that the issue.

I seen that as well.

Step up CBP in border towns, bigtime.

Stop hiring sympathetic beaners to CBP, surprise drug test everyone on the regular, and clone Joe Arpaio a couple dozen times or get people like him in charge. Put one of him in charge of CBP in every border city, then put six more in El Paso.

Contact Mexican gov't, tell them to do something about the tunnels in their city.

If they don't do anything, start catapulting the tunnelers back over the wall.

And the money comes where? Well, more of bodies and equipment, but it will be abstracted as money here.
Arpaio also has left his jurisdiction go to shit, family is involved in the meth trade, and frankly he doesn't care because he is grandstanding.

Also what does drug testing come from?

That would be littering user, that would be a crime.

First response isn't D&C, has dubs, fucking nobody checks em.

WAKE UP

Money comes from defunding planned parenthood, duh. More realistically, it comes from the "Money that would normally be sent back to Mexico" pool. And if Arpaio won't cut it, we could always just take a few pages out of Duterte's book.

Drug testing further cuts down the odds of the CBP have ties to the drug trade in some way.

And Mexico has been letting their human shit flow into our cities for years. It's not littering if it gets put back where it came from.

You really don't want to touch planned parenthood, its really good at keeping problems at bay, unless you feel like having 60 million more Americans directly, plus the unknown amount of possibly twice that from family planning.

nyways, the remittance pool is not going to work, as then you have the perverse incentive to make sure illegals keep coming in.
Same as with drug busts, the money comes as the busts do, making it important to never be effective.
It should just come out the general fund as a line item, keeps it from being tampered with.
Ah yes, because dropping further to third world is the proper answer to a problem.
Whelp I should go get some malaria meds on hand.

Which is good.

So then no catapults, they have to go back just as the coyotes took them in.


Me, I'd go for the border wall and not worry so much of manning and stopping the flow, as the demand.
That would mean axing agriculture subsidies, enforcing more of CARE? the citizenship checking on employment, and actually putting some stuff up in the Central American countries, or stopping the Monroe doctrine.

Really as things go, all the wall does is act as a speed bump so long as demand is present in the US.
Its an easy fix promise that won't work for that when they just get in a boat and come in from Canada or Jacksonville Florida.

steel plated maybe, crowned with razor wire and "fake" skulls of those who tried crossing before.

ET3 is a MUCH cheaper and faster technology

Why fake?
Just tell Hillary every illegal is smuggling back a page of a report on her.


Actually why hasn't this been done?

So, Jews push for open borders and also want to build the wall.

They always control every side.

mun sunk cost fallacy

These are dubs of truth telling