So why doesn't Trump release his tax returns?

So why doesn't Trump release his tax returns?
I understand that it is customary and not a requirement, but with all the stuff on the Clinton Foundation and shady deals, why doesn't he release them to make a spotlight on Hillary of now you?

Is it because that as pointed he isn't worth anywhere near as much?
I mean its easy to spin tax breaks as being smart on how much he pays, but what reason does he have to be more cagey than Hillary?

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It’s a matter of procedure.

What legal investigation is this?

Why is it impossible to make a profit on wind power without taxpayer subsidy? How will that factor in long term, against maintenance and repair costs?

He says he's under audit. Why does it matter so much? Because the kike media has nothing else to go after him over besides being mean to their whore reporters.

Because even the smallest bit of impropriety will be blown up by the media and made into a huge issue.

He's explained this.

Is that why Obama did it too?

Primarily because fossil fuel, nuclear, and hydroelectric are all subsidized as well.
So long as one branch is subsidized, its not possible to have the others be competitive.

On the upside, coal and its subsidies are going out the window in favor of natural gas.
THis is very good.
On the downside, significant chunks of shitty US are going to get shittier thanks to market forces, with calls to further subsidize them in the interests of keeping them around.


ANd it has nothing to do with the already point of his Russiabooness leading to the expectation of it being about his debts?

Or the existing knowledge from Deutsche bank that he is actually worth a mere 200 mil?

Nobody cares about the tax returns. With the exception of (((them))) of course.

oy vey de taxes what if he didnt pay 100% of his wealth. dese dirty goyim

So its just like how he didn't actually write the art of the deal then, and has lawyers busy saying to stop the false accusations in the same breath as demanding the royalties and payment back?

Impressive you were able to compose this post using only the force of the HOT AIR escaping your ASS against the keys!

He's been audited 7 out of the last 10 years and they found nothing wrong.
((they)) are just desperate.

As someone who gets audited yearly as well, it's procedure. you can't release tax returns when they're under investigation.
We will see this years returns next year at the latest, doubt he is hiding anything. All his money seems legit.

Because the retards in the MSM keep giving him free media coverage over it during slow news days but the average American doesn't honestly care. When the MSM implies that Trump might be shady, it just makes people wonder about Shrillary who really is shady.

7 point lead, baby.

Because subsidizing items so they function at below real market rates is tottally why stuff is profitable.
Isn't that the whole argument of how solar is only working because the government subsidizes it?


While a small amount, most of the subsidy is on new construction as seen in the pic, not on the established operating costs.

OTOH, a major reason people like wind is that it does not cost as much as hydrocarbons once built.
Now obviously a lot of these figures are trash now due to the oil plummet, but by the same, they do show a certain relative cost figure to look at.

Is there any fucking brains left anywhere?! Hello? Hello!!?!?!?

So the argument then is that the MSM and by extension kikes, want Trump over Hillary?

Isn't that, you know, a bad thing?

Pic 3 user, run time costs for wind, unadjusted, are superior to hydrocarbons.
With subsidy, even better, as in 90% better shown in pic 2.
As seen in pic 1, most of it is in natural gas with a constant of wind ever since it got subsidized to well and truly beat everything else.

Solar is lagging because production levels are shit due to being made in China.

How are solar panels disposed of without massively polluting the environment?

Its production that is the polluting part.
Once made they're mostly the same stuff as in computer chips and highly related to glass.

Disposal is mostly just municipal landfill, though recycling is pretty common as well.

Actually destroying a panel is very hard, that is making it so you want to trash one.
Its frequently much more common to rebuild the panels at this size due to the most common damage being to the protective laminate and not the cell proper.

so he has bait for free media coverage

Because they do this every single fucking election and every single election the Right cucks and releases them and for the next 3 months you'll hear the media screaming about how HE'S A CON MAN GOYS

Don't give them an inch they wouldn't give you. He'll release his tax returns when she releases the Clinton Foundation's.

Show me one wind turbine manufacturer where the factory is totally powered using the products they make? The same principle applies to solar panels. The whole thing boils down to the carbon tax scam and global warming hysteria.

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If I remember correctly it is more like the last 14 years in a row.

There are of people who run there entire homes completely off solar

The jews want him gone.

They need maintenance like everything else.

user, I think you should get off before you summit mount stupid and try for a shortcut in a couple hours of Modern Marvels.


As in this
8ch.net/pol/res/6939384.html

Or do you mean as Hillary Clinton?
Because
hillaryclinton.com/page/tax-returns/
She has released as of 2014.

Cleaning panels, alignment of them during traversal, paying people to make sure they're working, maintenance of them from jackasses throwing rocks over the fence, etc…
No work solar panels don't work at these levels.

Why doesn't Clinton release her emails?

A home isn't a production factory

He said he's under audit, more so than other people he knows because he's Christian and not like (((them))). He answered it quite plainly.

No, I wouldn't call solar energy a "scam" like that user did though. I would call them fiscally impractical at worse.

Omg really? I guess I'm a #shillforhill now.

She released her personal returns. Not foundation's. What a cohencidence.

lazy old sun

Because Trump is a jew.

Join the team and become a #ShillMissile fellow not-jews.

Because you aren't authorized to see them.

Real talk is that it was not her job to maintain those records, it was the State Department's.
Therefore she is under no reason to have them or show them.
Since she pulled the dick move, it has now been codified illegal and requirements are on the individual.
Hence why the state department uses so much paper now.


And the historic forms then for 2014 and past?
Since taxhistory.org/ shows nothing on him.


If you want to be, you're the one asking for non personal returns in a thread on personal returns.
If this were to follow your bit, Trump would have to release all that juicy data on the Trump brand, and all of those lovely bankruptcies.
Not that it would really hurt, Thomas Jefferson was bankrupt several times and president, same as Mckinley.

But point is, you are asking for something outside the scope and acting like a nigeress finding out she got cheated on with la keisha.

Why doesn't Obama's IRS wrap up the fucking audit so he can?

All 7 of them out of hundreds of businesses
Fuck he has small hands too I guess I'm voting for rubio now

Why give the shitlib media ammo? You and I aren't going to dig through his tax returns, they're going to be parsed by leftoid faggots looking for dirt.

4.
Its 4 user, if you're going to go to bat, at least get the numbers right.


So then its an admission of guilt?


Why not 2014 and before?

Every candidate has to file with the Federal Election Commission, which is basically turning over your financials to the government.

He's done this, so if he was doing anything shady, obviously they'd have nailed him on it. The tax returns (which would reveal less, but to the public) are not required to be released.

oh hi Holla Forums! Knew I'd draw you out. STFU and GTFO

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OP has clearly never dealt with lawyers before

He'd be fucking himself and his children over business wise by making such information publicly available.

It's like showing your hand in a card game.

He said wait until the IRS is done with their review alert kike.
> taxhistory.org/
That's like me going to fbi.gov/ to find the case file on hillary you stupid nigger.
Funny is that you think his tax returns is a 'smoking gun' to stump him. It won't be. His IQ is x10 that of yours, evident with low tier shilling and laughably shit gas lighting.

lmao
reported kike. hope you get shoahed like your kike buddy from that thread.

I work in the energy industry and can tell you that's a load of bullshit. The lucrative "maintenance" contracts that they give out on solar is just another way to jew you out of your money Barring some very rare accident where some external force broke a panel or screwed with the wiring, 99.9% of the "maintenance" is some guy going there with a checklist, looking at the panels for an hour, giving it a pass and then cashing in for his company.

These things almost never need a single dollar of maintenance for 5-15 years, and a cheaper solution would be to simply call a specialist when a problem comes up (which is never for most companies) and pay a one off cost, even if high it would still be much cheaper. But (((everybody))) is in on the game, and, so, these contracts include extremely expensive "maintenance and upkeep" agreements as well. Solar is notorious for this, it's why so many bumfuck Chinese "solar" companies with no real purpose keep popping everyday.

This. Nobody fucking cares. Taxes are boring and everyone hates them. If anything this makes Trump more relatable.

So then Trump has been a dependent from 2015 and back?


And again, the previous returns?

So far, you are demonstrating you do not have an answer why he won't match Hillary for up to 2014, and instead the best you have is

Which does not include his businesses, as those are not filed under his name, much as I pointed here with

the same for the Clinton Foundation.

And yet I can easily find Hillary (2014) and Obama (2015) on there and priors.

I see you ignored the rest of the post and were triggered by bankruptcy.

If its 7 bil, then why did Deutsche bank say 200 mil?
If he had that much, he would be able to show it, rather than sue anyone that questions.
So he has an IQ of 1,130 and yet does not run around with a decent heat haze from that compressed brain, nor an increase in diet?

Its only going to be a stumping thing if the rather obvious points on being a Russiaboo are true.

And I did answer directly, if he can't release the current he has past, if you want the IRS to hurry up, perhaps he should consider not having so much with his name and putting a lot more into holding companies to stop that.

Fear not though, if I were a kike, why would I be here asking questions and not just having the returns "leaked by anonymous".

Well that depends, are those tax forms?

Do we just keep repeating that same thing back and fourth all night?

Reddit detected with your autistic talk. Anyways there is something called liquid and non-liquid assets. Liquid assets is commonly money, while non-liquid (which Trump's business is based on) is in properties, goods, etc. When talking about 'net-worth' nigger it's important to consider it's encompasses all wealth regardless of its liquidity.
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you fags are so easy to spot. learn to not tip your fedora so hard when you talk cheetofingered cuck.
You are the same gas lighting cuck that posted a few months back about something with immigration. You have the same posting style.

Go correct the record elsewhere

They give him coverage because it's profitable, not because they want him elected.

Not necessarily. Imagine you created a Holla Forums movie and everyone in Holla Forums loved it 8/8, but all of a sudden it reaches RottenTomatoes or other shitlib media and all they do is take your movie out of context, lie about what is portrayed and try their damnedest to sink it so now one else will see it. They're going to misrepresent your movie no matter what just because it's associated with Holla Forums and they're normalfags.

That's the position Trump is in. Nothing good is going to come out of his tax returns even if he did nothing wrong. Indeed, it's actually worse than the previous scenario because at the very least Holla Forums will watch a Holla Forums-produced movie. No one other than the shitlib media is going to go through Trump's tax returns. Everyone else is going to wait on their highly biased analysis. This is a lose-lose scenario.

The People by and large don't care to see his tax returns.It's the media that wants them…

Okay so then there is no reason to ask for the Clinton Foundation then.
Nor is there a reason for Soros to release his returns.

Oh wait those are both looked through.
Nice try {{user}}


Yes he has filed taxes in previous years and has them on down as forms.
So my point is, why are those not released if the current 2015 is under wraps?


He would not be having his net worth in his name, tumblrite, he uses a separate corporate identity to make sure his business dealings do not spill onto him.
So no, he does not have 7 bil to his name, his earlier claims were of 2 bil personal and 5 bil business networth.
There is also such a thing as a capitol tax in Germany
iberglobal.com/files/2015/germanyguide-deloitte.pdf
And thus that would count his nonliquid assets, along with any of his branding that was in his name.

So yes, Trump is worth 200 mil net.
The rest is either in his uncared for corporate name, or does not exist at all.
Either way it has little relevance to the thread as I am here about Trump the fleshy biological guy, not his corporate identity (now I sound like a sov citizen)


So calling for a recognition of Crimea belonging to Russia, that the US should hold off from assisting Nato, intoning that Russia should/have committed an act of war against the US.


So you are saying kikes in control of MSM, their masters, can't predict what any of us can?
So how did they take over then?


And so then the call for the Clinton Foundation returns matters how?
By the same logic, only Holla Forums and a small group of that, would look at them.

I am interested in them as he has a chance of being my new boss, and I would rather like to vet the man, than wait and find out he is a shitter.

He's released all his tax returns but the most recent. Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.

Alright, where then?

See showing this sort of stuff at the start of a thread is a great way to answer questions.

Archive, link, photo with URL, whatever, just show me.

She doesn't have to show me the emails. She does have to answer to congress however.

OP outed himself as CTR, enjoy your sagebombing and ban.

Yup, 200 million. I guess the real estate market really took a tank recently. Or is it they they just messed up who actually owns all of those buildings?
Kill yourself

He's not releasing them because it gives the media more ammunition to attack him.

You can guarantee that the media will do something like take the total value of Trump's assets then report that he only paid .01% in taxes because he won't be paying taxes on the value of productive assets.

There's a lot in a tax return that can be spun to instigate jealousy.

I don't care what he pays in taxes. I hope he doesn't pay any in fact. But if he really wanted people to see his taxes he could release the year before taxes and say he'll release his current taxes once the audit is finished.

It's better that he never releases them and just lets the media pester him about it until people get tired of hearing it and don't care.

There's probably dozens of different things in his taxes the media could use to attack him with. I don't see the point of giving them ammunition. They'll comb over it with a fine toothed comb too. Hillary has the luxury to release her taxes because anything in them that's inconvenient for her the media isn't going to cover.

The only point of the custom to release taxes is to attack conservatives. Why should he cuck out like the conservatives before him and respect that custom? The media skewered Romney over his taxes.

This is pathetic.

Nobody here gives a shit about his tax returns.

What would things look like if zero forms of energy generation was being subsidized?

Hillary Clinton is a traitor and she should be given a fair trial then executed by firing squad.

And so should you.

CTR?
Please explain this acronym.


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You will show me where she rendered aid to an enemy of the US?
Or levies war against it?
Much less the same for me.

PLS, show some energy here user, how can you be a good RWDS memeber when that is your game?

The whole 'release your tax' thing is bullshit. They did the same thing with Mitt Romney. You saw it all the time on the liberal news.

Mitt Romney won't release his taxes.
Mitt Romney won't release his taxes.
Mitt Romney won't release his taxes.
Mitt Romney won't release his taxes.

Of couse mitt says fuck you I'm not releasing my taxes. Until he actually does. Turns out he not only pays all his taxes but also donates millions to charity. Then the liberal media shuts up and no one talks about it anymore.

But if you ask people if Mitt Romney pays his taxes people remember only what was spoon fed to them by the liberal media ("Mitt Romney won't release his taxes").

Yeah they live in the desert at lower latitudes on the earth. Show me a home in fargo ND or minneapolis that heats their home all winter only using solar? Solar will work in ideal locations geographically speaking but do you really think the whole city of chicago or baltimore can drop conventional heating and switch to solar and everything will just be hunky dory? Like I said before the whole clean energy push is is just a scam for the climate change hysteria couple with a push to get everyone on the earth to pay a carbon tax. I am still waiting to see the solar panel factory that produces all its energy using solar panels as well.

OP that picture is "capacity" not output what the wind people never tell anyone is that behind every big wind farm hoopla there is a real power station running wildly inefficiently because when the wind stops it don't make any electricity and something has to keep the grid running.

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THIS THREAD IS IS JEWISH

Because he's being audited.


He's released financial records showing his assets.

And to to be perfectly honest, only fucking commie scum and progressives give a shit about tax returns.

Also, wind power is a menace, turbines are a fucking hazard, they kill people, birds, disrupt radio waves. Build more Gen III nuclear reactors and put more money into Gen IV research and commercialization.

Well I won't be around to see this but you smart kids can see the joys of going totally green. The province of Ontario in Canada is in the process of totally outlawing using wood to heat homes with and their goal is by 2050 to totally get the entire province off of the use of natural gas as well for home heating. My prediction is you are going to see a lot of cold really pissed off canadians when they get their govt approved green energy bills to heat their homes in the winter. Also I studied Mech Engineering so I have no wish to push a jew agenda I just don't want to freeze my ass off in the middle of the winter when it is cloudy/snowing for 3 days and 0ºF outside and my solar panels can't heat a dog house and my wind turbine is dead still.

Generally its a very poor idea to release your tax returns when you're being audited.

Its better to wait until its all squared away, releasing a tax statement that's poorly filled out is just a bad business practice. It can confuse your shareholders and hurt your stocks.

There is NEVER anything incriminating in them, it's just a shitty talking point that gets dragged out every election cycle to win libtard points against conservatives.

Because you're a faggot, OP. It's all your fault. I hope you're happy.

Sure, theoretically in the long term solar or wind is more cost efficient than oil or whatever. But as Keynes once said, in the long term we're all dead anyways.

Energy sources like solar and wind have VERY high start up costs (construction and whatnot) relative to their power output. In theory that money can be made back with it after a long enough time, but you have to consider that there's other things that money can be used for: food, electronics, investment, or whatever else.

Sure, maybe installing some solar panels in the desert or making a few wind turbines in the windy city makes sense, but overall these sources of energy are very niche and aren't going to be enough for a national energy infrastructure that can replace things like natural gas without severe economic downsides.

When did Hillary start posting on Holla Forums?

Why didn't Lincoln, Tyler, Madison and Jefferson release their tax bills? Oh thats right there was no income tax in the US before the Federal reserve bank was created. Andrew Jackson is still flipping in his grave.

Trump doesn't release his tax returns because he has nothing to gain by doing so, and runs the risk of giving the media more ammunition against him as well.

What do we learn from his tax returns? Only what he has already stated: that the rich can meme their way out of taxes, and that keeping cash within the country is dis-incentivized by our flawed corporate tax system.

Romney actually had shit to hide from releasing his tax returns, he was BSing about how he was a man of the middle class and how cutting taxes for the rich would solve things anyways, which immediately got rekt once he released his tax forms.

Ultimately, Trump simply has nothing to gain from releasing his tax returns, and a small risk of getting politically damaged. In addition, even though the media has previously attacked him on it, they still have ADD and will just go after him for whatever controversial statement he makes while voters fail to give a shit.

Solar needs a bottle of Windex to be maintained, and to make sure nothing cracks the material from falling on it. Its all a farce.

God you are a pathetic shill. His net worth is massive due to buildings alone. Months ago he mocked Romney for being worth only $300m and said one of his building was worth more than that. The media had the building appraised and the appraisal came back at $500m. Media = stumped. Romney = Obliterated.

That post alone proves you are a newfag shill.

I forgot to sage on my previous post.

Right….

His net worth won't be in his returns. Tax returns are numbers without much context. A political opponent can give those numbers false context and it's difficult to disprove. They want his returns so they can mislead the public about what is in them.

Pretty much.
NG is for base loads, wind is for transient.
The US is actually really good for wind, and can easily use it.
But a lot of companies in it are not interested in making them too efficient while a number of subsidy programs exist.

Its like the brief golf cart craze, where people could get them for free, as long as the startup subsidies are in play, companies will use them.

When they go away you will see some sudden changes, like brushless generators being used.


Not sure, let's ask the NSA and FBI, while we wait for an intonation to Russia.

Or are you now saying that Fracking is not causing a large number of PGS to transfer to NG as coal is not worth it in new plants?


So then you don't know and are trying to act all coolio while smoking a clove.


Windex will clear that with a big enough bottle.
The complex near me has inline resistance heaters for their PV panels when winter comes.
Gets hot enough to deice the road near it.


If they wanted to mislead, why not just claim a leak and say those work?

See the thing is here, if the media wants to, they'll lie and memory hole the fact they did.
That they aren't here tells me there is more too this than just "Oh he pays no taxes, something he already said he would go for"
I remember last year before shills came out and the discussion boiled down to the amount of taxes was inconsequential, what mattered was charity, his worth, and who he had debt to.

There's a shit ton of slide threads going on right now

What the fuck are these kikes trying to hide

Yup. The entire country could be powered off the light in death valley alone

Is that LCOE scenario analysis from 2009? If so that explains the high LCOE of solar. PV panels have cratered in price in the last 5 years, the LCOE is now very low. The issue with solar is intermittency.

How good would that be for business? Is there some way we can export solar energy to useless countries for profit?

He should hold off longer. They'll make a bigger deal out of this because its all they got
Then he'll release the returns, and it'll be fucking nothing.
Then they'll look like idiots (again).

Well simple answer is that its nothing, sliding only works on those who don't get the catalogue.
You have to worry far more about mod kikes than any bullshit spam, particularly if anybody setup an archive.

Much more, most of the board is old stuff slowly shuffling to the bottom and a bunch of general threads that come and go when they autosage.

In answer, its rather hard to slide on here and not be so naked uncut dick obvious that you don't have to ask why.


Yeah most of the images I have are old data, partly because the stuff I got was old, and partly because they don't get updated quickly.


Yeah, as finished goods.

If we went and built a number of Fischer Topps Syn fuel plants, we could make hydrocarbons and export those to other places.
This would allow a bypassing of crude grade and refining while also greatly increasing availibilty.

BUT!

It doesn't work anymore as the price of hydrocarbons is well below the manufacturing cost, and we are vastly oversupplied.

There is not an energy crisis because of fuel now, its much more a lack of infrastructure as usual.

Moving forward, renewables will take the lead as they do not rely upon constrained fuel sources so much, particularly molten salt or other solar focussing, less so PV.

Basically getting back to horse versus car for travel.
Horse can go anywhere, but you need a bunch to haul a TEU, but a car has to go for fuel stations and is limited to them, but better otherwise.

1. He's under audit
2. I'm sure he, as every other billionaire businessman would, has deftly minimized his tax bracket to near-zero. Bill Gates doesn't pay fucking taxes, you think Trump does just to be a sport? It won't look good no matter what, that's why he's running with the "it hurt romney" line.

So then you're admitting that Trump supporters would drop him over taxes.
Rather shallow that group then.

And again

He has run before, so where are the priors?
See that's what this gets down to, you're all so assuming it has to be current year, you ignore that he has priors.

Notice something important in the title of the infographic…*CAPACITY*

Actual wind power production is rarely anything more than about 15% of capacity. And it happens at totally random times, so we need to have fossil backup power at all times ready for when the wind dies down.

There is absolutely ==NO== reason why we need renewable energy when nuclear fission is just as zero-carbon. We should be getting >90% of our electricity from 4th gen nuclear energy (via thorium or uranium), and we should be desalinating water and manufacturing transportation fuels from nuclear process heat and electricity.
aboutdme.org/index.asp
The Jew will do whatever it takes to prevent the goyim from using nuclear energy

wew, that is retarded

Agreed, very agreed.

OTOH, China is doing quite well on fusion, and we are now past sustainment and well into power, its just making something that isn't half hour pulses.

as sad as it is to see China take the torch of technology and move ahead of the west, at least someone is doing it to prove the libtards wrong.

I wish people knew that France has had the lowest carbon emissions of any western country and the cheapest electricity for 45 years. Fucking double-digit-IQs at Greenpeace/Sierra Club would like us all to be cavemen for their luddite wet dream.

He said he will when Hillary releases her Wall St Speeches

Aye.
I wager the reasoning is that they are fed such wonder stories, like how people think the US wild west was ruled by ginslingers, when it was very very much regulated by the local and rapidly federal governments.

Same thing, they think it was so great pretech, ignoring how everybody did their damndest to tech up once slaves stopped.

Then again, maybe that's the thing, they're all proslavery and dream themselves a master.

No, that's not true, many places in the West were essentially ungoverned, BUT you're right on the point that violence was much, much lower than modern movies imply.

Buffett rebukes Trump, unveils voter turnout effort

web.archive.org/web/20160802023240/http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-buffett-idUSKCN10C3AS?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

“Now I’ve got news for him," Buffett said. "I'm under audit, too, and I would be delighted to meet him anyplace, anytime, before the election.

“I'll bring my tax return, he can bring his tax return … and let people ask us questions about the items that are on there,” Buffett added, saying Trump was “afraid” not of the IRS but voters.

To bad Buffets is a retard because Trump never claimed to be afraid of what the IRS will find, he's worried about his business because you don't release tax returns when you're being audited.

The amount of supposedly educated people coming out of the woodwork this election that don't know 5th fucking grade economics is extremely disturbing.