ITT we form, post and critique our counters to the left's buzzwords('dark', for example) and come up with our own buzzwords, or subvert the left's buzzwords.
I'll start: Dark.
1: (Jokingly) 'Dark? Why are we bringing race into this? Are you racist, user?'
Using the left's love of racism accusations is always a favorite counter of mine. It's always a kick to watch them tripping over themselves to exclaim how not racist they are.
2: When user(Liberal) says 'dark' 'But he's so dark!' Etc, you say 'haven't there been x terrorist attacks recently, though? I'm not sure. Can you look it up for me, please?'
Making them look up the evidence, and asking them a question you already know the answer to, reinforces in their mind that ==they== came up with the answer, not you, and that they found the evidence.
Sorry there's so few, this thread was a shower thought. What else do we have, Holla Forums?
Forgot to add; After liberal in example two admits there have been a lot of terrorist attacks, you counter with 'So, wouldn't you say the world is dark? I'm starting to think Donald is just being realistic, not dark.'
Levi Diaz
all we need are memes
Josiah Parker
Cool story, but not quite.
Dylan Harris
buzz words are a kind of meme
Jason Roberts
Perhaps we are thinking about this the wrong way - instead of defense lets also make sure we have a strong offense.
Lets characterize Open borders/mass immigration as "Too risky"
Samuel Barnes
Is The Prince by Machiavelli any good? It seems to have some persuasion principles that could be useful.
Hudson Fisher
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Caleb Torres
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Easton Taylor
The left does not argue with logic but with emotion. You can not win. The only way to win is to ridicule them. That is their weakness. They have lost all their humour and ridicule abilities compared to the right.
The only way to win, is to channel them to red pill media. If that fails, nothing can help them, certainly not an argument.
Ethan Ortiz
I had some fun with that yesterday. Any good ridicule tips, then?
Ian Lopez
I think "dark" sounds cool, though. An image of a dark horse comes to mind when I think of it, which is exactly what he is. But I might be biased because I'm still looking forward to a darker realization of the American Dream, where we are more violent and assertive as a nation with mo tolerance for bullshit, basically the Bill of Rights 2: Nationalist Boogaloo.
Cooper Watson
1. know your shit 2. recognize and reject bullshit concepts and theories (sexualization, gender outside m/f, rights outside human rights, equality, etc), invented words (mansplaining, ) and (((new))) definitions (privilege, discrimination, etc) 3. recognize some people just aren't receptive to orderly discussion 4. read scott adams blog
Robert Hall
if goal is to redpill, then refer to some 1st level redpill media provider.
If it is to win, then remember you are debating for the people listening not the person you are agaisnt.
and if it is to anger, than Take everything to the extreme, it's the best way to infuriate because you are attacking their points and principles at the same time.
It is also advised to play on their philosophy.
So a women can't talk about men issues because its femsplaining.
When a women shames a man for being pervy, that is manshaming.
Islam is always mentioned, so when it comes up. Tell them you think it's great and you are super excited to have four wives.
My best way to redpill someone, if a man is too ask them why whites can't be proud of their race and ask them if they are proud to be white.
If it's a woman I don't know. Anons have any idea?
Matthew Martinez
forgot to say for this point keep it factual and focus on double standards.
Im not that great at redpilling because I have poor social skills, but im sure anons have some better ideas.
Jeremiah Bailey
Oh and STAY ON POINT
when they start losing they deflect and change the attack, like a woman.
If you catch her cheating she will say well you are not X.
Being X has nothing to do with breaking morals, you bring it back on point. Leftists have an uncanny resemblance to a woman's mentality.
BRING IT BACK TO THE FIRST POINT.
Juan Reed
Friendly reminder that "so what" destroys the entire liberal buzzword toolkit on command, and, often, leads to outright liberal retreat.
Chase Robinson
Race-ism Race-izzzzm
Never trust an isms
Thomas Bell
I needed this one. I have to admit, one of my personal weaknesses is letting people get off track.
Yeah, isms and - People who claim to be progressive are usually anything but.
Leo Bailey
I find it leads to moralizing. Do it to a (((Christian))) and they will say "hell is forever" to feel like a good goy. Do it to a Leftist and they'll repeat the thought crime you committed to feel virtuous.
My theory is that Christianity produced children, for 1500yrs, that were genetically engineered to moralize and fear being antithetical to collectivist "sin". While many of these people died in monarchy/Jewish wars, many more bred, more than the intelligent people because they took more risks being (r) select whites (lower IQ breeds fastest) believing that their offspring would be protected by the "grace of god". While intelligent (K) selected whites took passed less risk to their offspring simply by not having them and putting babies through the kind of hell that a risky life can bring. Luckily it's encoded in our DNA to still produce intelligent offspring from stupid people or we would all be idiots by now.
Christians in the past produced larger families than the sane and honest people. Later, they became Leftists because the society begin to change religions from Jesus to Marx.
Point being: We need to produce counter Dogma
Hitler's critique of 'false Christianity' and the failings of it in the German State was that a central dogma was no longer followed. So he began to create a new one… Thus National Socialism
Adam White
Hillary Clinton takes bribes from the Saudis and Russians for favours, assassinates whistleblowers and defended rapists as a career! That sounds pretty dark to me!
Eli Harris
and when you get the answer: "no why would I be proud of my skin color :^)" turn it around with:
watch them backpedal or double down. either response can be built upon to disrupt their logic and expose their dissonance.
Jeremiah Green
Judeans were one tribe out of 12 in Israel, and the Talmudic, Synagogue of Satan Jews of today are not the same as they were ~2000 years ago.
Nolan Nguyen
But semites were always inhabiting Israel and semite problem is not strictly religious. Atheistic kikes are still cancer. Kikes are kikes, it is a genetic problem. Solution of the jewish problem does not end with converting kikes. It just creates another "donmeh jew" case.
Jack Walker
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Nolan Powell
mentioned this in the other thread but you know what's real fuckin "dark"? Betraying your country and honest to kek shilling in it's apex form for a traitorous leech who has so much blood on her hands and in her pockets.
Jonathan Wright
ITT: Shit thread.
Luke Taylor
wew lad pretty gay post tbh fam
Jason Johnson
There were no 12 tribes you stupid fuck. That's part of Jewish mythology that united the Canaanite tribes together against Greek occupation. Hebrew literally translated to nomad, because they were all shitskins who randomly migrated into the area with no central unity. Just like Islam united he shitskin pagans later. And synogog of (S)atan should be translated as adversarial church. Because Jesus was a Zionist who attended synagog and the Pharisees were pro-Roman sell-outs. There is no Satan in the mythology until Catholics invented him to represent all Aryan gods and anyone opposed to the church, including fellow Jesus worshipers like the "Luciferians".
Jaxson Harris
Why did you take the bait? You're giving some really good advice, don'te be afraid to take some in return.
How easy was it for that "posters" to get you off track and begin the derailment? I count 6 sentences that would have been well spent on the subject at hand.
Jayden Davis
Shit thread.
If you want to counter idiots who only think with their vaginas, then you must fight them on the same battlefield.
Or use their most feared weapon: A mirror. Fight them with their own hypocrisy.
Sebastian Bailey
This. This is a slide thread and a shit thread.
Jonathan Miller
And I just bumped it. Shit.
Parker Gonzalez
Just deploy the C word.
Don't use nigger lingo and don't go for the "real racists" angle.
Camden Morris
what we need to do is make "clinton" the new "cunt"
"my boss just came in and told us all to fuck off just because we said good morning to her, what a fucking clinton"
bonus points because she's actually done that
Gabriel Ortiz
Not dark, but white.
Nathaniel Perez
Historians would disagree, as well as verified, written records, such as the old testament.
For example, written records of Satan existed long before the resurrection and the Catholic Church was formed.
Consider re-examining your position and sources (if you had any).
Samuel Sanchez
reminder that the best counter is a gun
can't make a smug face when you have a steaming hole in the back of your head
Chase Young
You and I know that, but your average inner city white goy is capable of incredible levels of mental gymnastics. I feel like it's better to make them come to a conclusion themself so they feel like they figured something out.
How is the weather in Tel Aviv, (((user)))?
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Also, how is a thread about refining our arguments a slide thread? I guess I keep forgetting that the shills don't want us organizing in any meaningful way.
Jose Bell
DARK KNIGHT
We Meme jujitsu nao.
He's the President we need right now. Just maybe not the one we deserve.
Gabriel Robinson
if i shot you right now, you couldn't make any further arguments
i win
this has been a masterclass in philosophy, logic, argumentation, and rhetoric
Liam Long
This so much. Never forget this
People think they'll win by being 'rational' but any rational analysis would tell you persuasion in debate doesn't come down to facts.
Aiden Martin
I've used that exact phrasing when describing the media tactics of shilling killary to customers at my job
it works, trust me.
Jayden Carter
Trump's immigration plan is true amnesty (meaning that the illegal immigrants will not be subject to any penalties for breaking the law and have leave to apply for residence through the normal channels).
Reagan's and every other proposal was not really amnesty but more like a border jumping / immigration queue jumping licence. Letting a kidnapper/bank robber keep the hostage/loot goes beyond amnesty.
Aaron Diaz
won't work, and here's why: no all these -insert whatever- was done by one/a few radicals, now let me demonstrate my expert level mental gymnastics by defending these creatures…
Isaiah Sanders
Like obsidian, baby. Dark and classic, the gem of kings.
Adrian Diaz
I got a strong one, Clinton is currently surfing on the 1st woman to be president of the USA as some goal and pride. (muh 1st vagina prez)
to this I retort: really? you lots want to the 1st women prez to be Crooked Hillary? it will go down in history that the 1st ever female POTUS was Perjuring Liar? Woe be this shame for all womankind!
Christian Scott
Leftists are driven by their inferiority complexes. They are self-pitying and self-loathing more often than not.
Those right of center are realistic about themselves and proud of their strengths.
Point out your strengths and what makes you great, but still be humble and modest about it. Hold a mirror up to them and point out their faults, and tell them they're lashing out because of it.
It has nothing to do with politics, but their brainwashing isn't political, it's mostly psychological.
Leftists need a harsh mental beatdown to break through the brainwashing and cognitive dissonance. This causes the most emotional and mental harm, but with repeated attacks, they can wake up.
Tough love and harsh reality checks instead of coddling and empty praise worked for me.
Chase Harris
sure, tell me what word you need a counter for
William Martinez
"Dark" might be the buzzword of the week, but I would counter it by bringing up the yin yang symbol. "Can you have light without the dark?" They'd be stumped.
And then go on to say that black contains all of the colors.
You could also talk about how it's impossible to talk about injustices or crises that need action if only positive happy talk is approved.
The last point works against accusations about anger or "hate". You could even use some SJW shit on them by accusing them of tone policing.
Julian Hughes
And if want to have sexual relations with them, let them win once in a while.
Henry Morales
Yes, Trump is dark alright, He's the Dark Knight we've all been waiting for.
Brayden Brooks
best response. make libs face reality. just look how turbulent this summer has been
Eli Bell
Just disagree with them by saying the opposite of whatever they are saying.
Carter Gomez
Or just agree with them and explain how it's a good thing.
Joshua Miller
My hyper-weapon!
Camden Adams
TRUMP JUST SAID THIS VERY ARGUMENT LIVE, I AM PLATINUM HAPPY!