A woman changing her surname to her husband's after marriage is sexist and implies male ownership...

yep

that's where you're wrong kiddo

Protip: You're right that it's sexist.

Protip: That means it's right.

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tfw when you don't have any bondage porn

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i just want to be included….

spare some bondage pron for a needy fgt?

Get a wife and use her to produce as much as you want.

In the meantime, pennies for the pauper here.

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thank you and god bless
*cries on inside knowing will never be able to produce endless amounts of bondage porn*

It's easier than you think. I have a 400lbs destitute nerd friend who is doing it. You just have to look, and maybe be willing to put up with personality disorders.

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that goes against free speech on Holla Forums.

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It's late and I'm going to bed, but nothing will ever change the fact that

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ALWAYS

AND BAD GIRLS ARE PUNISHED

asking me if i can deal with personality disorders is like asking me how im still alive

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This is true.

The conclusion doesn't follow from the premise. Women like to be owned. It makes them feel protected, safe and nurtured. They will always seek this.

It's not that they want to be "owned" it's that they want someone else to take responsibility because they are selfish and lazy. Who wants to "own" such a despicable creature when you just just fuck and dump?

This is true.

They certainly have a harder time thinking about universals than men, which can make them seem lazy. They will sacrifice almost anything for their children and a man they're attracted to, though. Make them see how they're doing something for their children and their family and they will go through hell to do the thing. They're lazy if they don't feel like they have a purpose. Men who say you have to train women like dogs are not wrong in the sense that you have to reward them when they do good things and punish them when they don't, but they're still human and want a purpose and reason. It's just that they don't have that on their own, you have to provide it for them.

Yeah, nah. Women regularly abuse, neglect, abort, abandon and sometimes murder their own kids and they will cuck their husbands without hesitation the moment they get bored. I know because I've fucked plenty of married women. I'm not bragging because it's really not that difficult or uncommon. And I'm sure you think divorce rape must be the man's fault for not "keeping a woman in line." Typical white knight mentality. Even if you think they are worth the bother of "training," you will only get mixed results at best because the female nature is flaky, selfish and unreliable.
You obviously live in some porn fueled bondage fantasy world without any real life experience with actual women.

Bumping because girls need to remember their place.

Nice >>>/kennedi/ dubs OP

BAD GIRLS RECEIVE BAD ENDINGS

>>>/kennedi/

heck em

You tried. You failed. Good thing you're not a girl.

OTHERWISE SOMETHING BAD MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED

Late to the thread.
Da fucks going on here?
OP being a faggot? Alright lemme chime in.
Yes, the woman taking her man's surname implies ownership of sorts.
Because let's face it women like men to own their asses.
Now I don't mean that in a macho, chuvinist way. I mean being a man: provider, protector, all that shit.
Women don't like this because most of you faggots are unreliable as fuck. They don't know when you are going to be an autist and just up and leave for a younger piece of ass so naturally they don't trust you and if they don't trust you they won't bloody well respect you, will they?
I don't know a single woman that likes a pushover, weak-kneed, limp-wrist lil BITCH! They want a real man with a lot of balls. Big cojones, amigo, really big.
If you keep giving slack to the women with sissy shit like, "I don't want to oppress you by forcing you to take my last name. I don't want to be a pig by being the man and making the tough decisions for the relationship". OP, find a rope if this is you and rid the world of your menace. You are the reason the world is being cucked by SJWs and feminazis.

Fuckin' well said m8

then when some of those decisions turn out wrong, she will use it as a weapon against you until the end of time or until she leverages the scorecard of your "mistakes" to justify divorce raping you.
face it, white knight, you are the cuck in this thread who is pussy whipped and all your bondage pic porn fantasies show how obsessed you are by the female body. hiding it under a veneer of "control" by submitting to her fetish only reason why she "plays along" does not change your supporting role in that power dynamic.
it's called topping from the bottom, m8
enjoy being her bitch boy

Hey buddy.

I'm the guy with the bondage porn. Not the one you're arguing with. And if it makes you feel better, the less consensual and more dehumanizing it is, the more I enjoy it. It's got nothing to do with making her happy, though I consider it icing on the cake if I happen to along the way.

Women should be stripped of human rights and given the legal status of domesticated animals. Hence, they shouldn't even be given names. "Wench" or "woman" will suffice.

It's still her fantasy m8. Anything short of committing an actual felony will be always her game, not yours.
Everything you've posted so far is 100% consensual. Some of those girls are no doubt being paid to model and some are just exhibitionists again, her fetish
I'm well experienced with this particular form of female trash. Seems very hot and exciting until you actually start experiencing BDSM "submissives" IRL. Insufferable, high maintenance cunts with a plethora of mental and emotional issues. Simply not worth it, tbh, but play on, playa

enjoy being a faggot fagboy
I can pull off bad decisions with masculine grace.
You being the effeminate homo that you are will know nothing about this. I have made tonnes of bad decisions and haven't heard a pip out of her. She was respectful when I met her and she continues to be.
Stop projecting because you attract shit-tier women(shemales, whatever).
You have concocted innumerable conspiracies about women because you don't want to face the truth. You. Are. Weak.
A coward that is afraid to be hurt so gives up all together. Enjoy your echo chamber, you fucking jew!

found the femanon

says the trap

Bumping with a bad girl getting what she had coming.

WHERE'S THE BEEF?

HERE IT IS

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WHY, ARE YOU BAD?

Bump for quality thread.

Do you have some good or bad girls to share?

Sadly, no.

More's the pity. You can borrow one of mine.

Men are naturally attracted to feminine (submissive) women, and women are naturally attracted to masculine (dominant) men. It's the natural order of things. It's how every culture behaved until the retarded nonsense of feminism came along. When women didn't try to act like men and fight their husbands for dominance, divorce was extremely rare and the vast majority of children had both parents at home. Children raised by single mothers are at a distinct disadvantage in every aspect of life. Western society is circling the drain, and one of the major reasons for this is that women have abandoned their place as revered mothers and wives. Instead they try to prove their superiority and dominance over men while simultaneously begging men to help them because they can't do anything themselves. Rather than being empowered by feminism, women have been infantilized by it.
Prove me wrong.
Protip: you can't

Damn, you're giving me ideas for the wife here…

You know what you have to do.

Go shopping for some gear, really. Our vibrator died over the weekend, so that's enough of a prompt right there.

Current gear:
Ball gag
Wrist restraints (soft, cloth)
Blindfold x2
Leather tassel whip thing

Need:
Good bondage rope
Nipple clamps

What am I not thinking of? I was contemplating one of those nostril stretching pig face things, like pic related (I guess I did have one pic to share!). Post more inspiration and ideas.

A long-lasting cordless remote-control vibrator for her to wear under her chastity belt while she occupies the locking dog cage.

There's three items. Bonus points if you modify the cage so she can service you while being stimulated but denied herself.

Dog cage is too large, we don't have the space for it or the dogs large enough to justify it. I guess I should make more money and buy a house big enough with a play room, but for now our bedroom has to play double duty.
Chastity belt though…interesting. Does the cordless remote vibe require like a smart phone with an app? I saw some shit on /n/ or Holla Forums about that info being stolen by the parent companies, not interested in that shit.
Oh, forgot to mention we already have a collar/leash as well, and she responds well to the "sexy kitten" angle and "sex pet" idea. Any other thoughts along those lines? I was thinking a butt plug tail might be fun.

Most cordless vibrators come with their own little remote. I image some nicer ones can interface with phone apps.

What you do with the chastity belt is make her wear it for several days, use the vibrator to get her occasionally very close, and then never let her cum. Always remind her that orgasms are for good girls, and when she's been obedient enough a pet, she can. How long or what threshold you think is fair/fun is up to you, at which point you take it off and either go to town on her, or her oppressed libido explodes on its own and she desperately does the work.

If you want to highlight the pet/slave thing, have a way to lock the collar. Dangle the keys in her face and never, ever let her touch them. She's your property. YOU decide, and you enact, when it comes off. Which will be [sufficiently entertaining time]. I have a pet who gets off on humiliation. I got one of those opening-locket heart charms for her collar with her name, owner's information and contact info on the outside, and on the inside is all her 'vital statistics', which are really just details about her she's embarrassed about. Height, weight, breast size, what she's useful for (explicit sex acts go here, in addition to housework), and the fact that she's a sexual-orientationally cuckolded lesbian that serves a man and is only allowed to taste other women if their flavor is already on me.

It's pretty cruel, but we like it that way, in our own ways.

Surrogate like ronaldo.
Its the future

Nice, man. I wish mine got off on humiliation, she's actually pretty shy. Any tips on encouraging this? Baby steps?
I like the idea of a lock though, as I'd like to continue to cement the sub/dom aspect of our relationship (if you asked her right now, this is an "only in the bedroom" thing but little does she know I'm working towards 24/7). She's got promise though, she really likes being tied up, really likes getting whipped, gets turned on by sucking me off and finds face-fucking hot. She's really hard to orgasm, though, so denial would be oh so mean. >:)
Also, I found /subject/, another dead board but good content on there.

She would still have her father's last name, or her mother's father at the very least.

Checkmate, women.

You've got to let her sink into it herself, for the most part, while also making it seductively inviting. Praise her for submitting. Give affection that is also possessive, like stroking or holding the back of her neck. Call her your good girl when she obeys or otherwise pleases you. A lot of this plays on emotional loose ends that were not sufficiently addressed as a child: you need to assume an almost fatherly role over her. Control her, but care for her. Make her feel safe, but also owned.

Also, /subject/ is excellent. I've posted quite a bit there.

Anyplace to get this kind of mindset? More writing like this?
Check.
Good call, I'm sure I do this now but from this point forward it will be intentional and conscious.
Check. "Sex kitten" and "sex pet" are also effective names I've found, she doesn't respond well to "slut", "whore" or other things she thinks are degrading (it's all degrading, it really comes down to finding her personal line to cross).
Double checked. Her Dad was in and out of her life throughout her childhood, this shit's on easy mode. Daddy issues + abandonment issues.
Check. I'm going to continue to reinforce how much she depends on me (she does) and how much I provide for her.
Any tips for subtly getting this angle? I think I do a good job providing the safe feeling, but not as well on the owned angle. She is still pretty independent thinking, how can I get her more dependent thinking?

These are very personal issues, tantamount to intimacy itself. I can't write a guide on your girl specifically. What might work for one may send another into anger, or even depression. Mine for example derives self-validation from being useful, and has very little compunction about what kind of useful that is, or whether or not she gets seriously injured, emotionally or physically, from it.

This is a very good sign. She's looking for affection and approval, not straight degradation. It hurts her for you to think lowly of her. This is a two-edged sword. In the same way calling her a whore is a sting, the right mixture of disapproval and followup guidance could be an emotional spanking to bring her into line with your expectations. If she does, says, or thinks something wrong, you can take authority and explain why she's incorrect. Remember, you're playing (preying?) on childlike emotions: use an appropriate amount of power to at once undercut her own independence while cementing her reliance on you. Overdoing it and calling her an idiot is like being a parent that beats their kid for dodging a bath.

Very good, but remember to not make her feel like it's entirely a one-way street, either. She needs to feel validated. Part of that is her believing, not just being told, that she's worth your while. I've seen relationships die because the girl has such incredibly ground-low self-esteem that she cuts contact because it's the only thing she can think to do that will make her partner's life better. Girls into being dominated usually have serious esteem problems, so make sure to nip that in the bud. Spend time with her for its own sake and make sure she knows it. Talk to her about things she likes, get her going on something she's excited about. The other side of maintaining a relationship while owning someone is convincing them that you actually want to and they aren't just a knicknack or ornament on your life due to convenience.

Make subtle mention of things you enjoy. If her will to please you is there, she'll start gravitating towards those things. This is something you have to be subtle with at all times, unless you're going full gonzo Gorean "you are a chattel item and the only reason you aren't legally an asset is because I'm not required to report livestock on my tax return" domination. Which seems outside of the scope of this discussion. Don't hand out compliments mindlessly; compliment what you like. If that's clothes, a meal she's cooked, etc. Men have a tendency to fawn over the object of their attraction as though it were flawless or even beyond operating at less than 100% at all times. Reward her emotionally for what you like. Be careful of starting her down false leads, though. Don't say how much you like something if you're less than genuine: a future attempt to please you by appealing to that desire will require a facade of approval, and she will see right through that shit. It will dishearten and discourage her, not just from that thing, but from the prospect of reward from trying to please you at all.

Goal, reward, goal, reward, goal, reward. The other side of this is not putting on a plastic face of approval over things you disapprove of. We have a very libertine society. You're not supposed to judge anyone for anything. This is retarded anyways, but there is a level of trust that you have to have in her to accept your judgments at face value. Think a belly piercing makes her look slutty? Say so, if not necessarily in those terms. Clothes too skimpy and show off to others what is rightfully yours? You're her father figure, kibosh it. She may end up sad over this, but that's when you come in with the approval, doting, and affection to lift her out of the anxiety of being placed between wanting your approval and our culture of "do whatever you want, fuck everyone else" mindset. You have to give her the approval manually to convince her she's done the right thing by obeying. Sometimes it helps to actively reward her with something, not just approval. A thank-you dinner, maybe a gift of something she wanted, etc. Remember, this is a thank-you, not a payment. These can't ever start to feel contractual, otherwise she gains bargaining power and the dynamic is ruined. You own her, you don't hire her.

Great shit, mate.
I get it, I was looking for more generalized tips like what you provided. Part of this is me changing/adapting/growing my own persona. There have been very few alpha males to emulate in my life. :/
Playing, I don't want to hurt her, just train her.
Too far in this situation.
Ideas of little things for this kind of training? I'm talking as subtle as "don't sit on that end of the couch, come sit next to me" and then maybe a quick neck rub as she sits down.
Working on this. My dad was fucking terrible about this and escalating punishments (I was the kid getting beat for dodging a bath) so I've got my own set of baggage to overcome.
Yeah, we've already run into that issue and I think we've addressed it ok.

We seem to have been cut from the same cloth, user.

I was only making a joke, but some people will disagree with your distinction of the two. Just be aware of that.

That's good. Little goals get little rewards. Most of my advice comes in the form of a Master/slave relationship, so my rewards may not apply to your situation. A small reward might be just some gentle affection, as she loves attention but is too submissive to ask for it. A medium reward could be the opportunity to shirk a responsibility for a day, or if she has a long-term punishment in effect maybe take a day off the duration. A major reward could be the cancellation of a previous long-term punishment altogether, or a more elaborate gift like an outfit or toy she wanted. (Toy being anything she enjoys. My pet enjoys cooking and fantasy stuff, so she got starry-eyed over a period recreation of a colonial era spice pouch full of spices.) A very, very special occasion might see her allowed to service another girl for a day.

Something you should be aware of is the concept of "Love Languages". People learn to appreciate and parse as intimacy different actions. Mine is physical affection. My pet's is doing things together. So a day out doing something fun would be a good reward for her. You need to know what your girl values before you can best figure out what strikes her emotions as a reward.

Me too, user. It's probably what makes us compassionate dominants. We associate control and training with affection/intimacy, but in a way too personal to want to genuinely hurt the object of our affection. We aren't empathically unplugged.

You have? That's good to hear. I've never had to dig myself out of that pit, but largely because I'm so unsure how I might that I gave it a wide berth to begin with.

Thread on name change in marriage becomes a pedo/bondage fantasy thread.
Thanks Holla Forums

It is the place of men to take the infirm and undesirable and make it worthwhile, don't you think?

:^)

OR ARE YOU BAD?

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The entire thread was a troll from the start. Congratulations of being triggered.

Indeed.
Yeah, lots of people with lots of hangups out there.
I've been told this before, but I don't want to bother with the book. Is there a good TL;DR out there?
Ohhhhh hell yeah.
Agreed.
Well, it goes with what you were talking about above. If it becomes too obvious that action X leads to reward Y, it becomes mechanical and robotic. I guess I should reward less explicitly, and more "randomly" from her perspective.

LOL, feel free to argue with OP if that's what you're looking for. Personally, I agree, a woman taking a man's name is sexist and a sign of male ownership. Unlike OP, I have no problem with that.

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A saint among men.

If you're too much of a faggot to not know how to deal with being wrong to a woman, I don't know what to say. I've never been the villain for more than a day with my woman. She gets pissed, I step back and acknowledge where I was genuinely wrong levelheadedly, get on her ass for overreacting, she apologizes and make-up sex ensues in leiu of a vocal apology, because women don't like admitting they're wrong. She can't use a thing to divorce rape me because I haven't given her shit to use against me. I let her decide the little things, she stays happy and feels important. Something big comes along that I care about, she listens. At this point she knows I'm right. She isn't even into bdsm beyond some light restraining once in a great while, it's just female nature. Your problem is, you're a faggot who's never figured it out. Women are a skill, and if you fuck up, you fuck them up and send them off with personality disorders for faggots like you to sleep with for a vague sense of fleeting masculinity. If you're actually a fucking man that knows how to deal with women, they aren't a problem.

take the quiz on the website, gives you a crash course on all the points

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Hogties of various flavors are my favorite time-out position for bad girls.

Girls that are very bad get lockdown.

Nice, doing this now.

ITT 50 Shades of Normie

In most slav countries, female surnames usually end in -ova, which is literally a possessive suffix. It doesn't just imply male ownership, it states it outright. And guess what, no one gives a shit.

Of course not, because the word "slav" is literally a possessive prefix for "slave"
The ownership mentality runs deep in slavic countries, but it's nothing to brag about m8

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Point at the MGTOW and laugh.

Never change, Holla Forums.

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I should get one of those vibrators…

user, stop trying to reason with the drab on here. Your advice is useless because they are all eternal virgins. Just be magnanimous toward them. For example, an idiot is going to reply to this post saying some nigger shit. And I am not going to entertain him.
REKT

You're in the wrong place for this bullshit, bitch

And you can piss right off, Khalid

Suicide bomb yourself Abdullah

Why are people STILL raising a stink over surnames?

Liberal women who have done nothing productive their entire lives, including having a child, and thus have absolutely zero sense of accomplishment or self worth need something to complain about.

A women is happier under a man's bondage than she is with a dozen cats.

I'm in the mood for a good girl being dominated gently tonight.

:3

This shit is gross and goes way too far. I also don't believe you actually do any of this stuff. Fuck off.

I'm in a good mood, and those are nice double dubs. Let's have another before bed.

Super cute. :3 I want to rub her head.

You're on to me. This stuff doesn't actually happen. It's all just really good CGI.

Goodnight.

Feminism does nothing but make life harder for women. This is an objective fact.

I don't have to prve you wrong, I just have to prove you're stupid.

And yet here you are, worrying about some slut changing her surname when she finally settles for some subpar dick. Kys, OP, you failed even at being a faggoty libertard cuck.

Be creative, make us proud

It's a good morning for cute property.

It's a good night for cute property.

Fuck off you retard, I married my own daughter just so she could keep the family name.

What other father would love his daughter enough to do this?

don't see anything wrong with that. nice bait though