Why do they hate history?

Why does the left hate history? I'm not just talking about American history, either. Every country with a leftist element has one thing in common. They all hate history. I saw this while lurking in leftypol and wonder how they can say this? Do they even really hate history, or are they okay with historical revisionism when it suits them? They drone on and on about how we need to stop romanticising the past, and that human history sucks.

And it's not just Japan they say was "never great", they say the same about America.

Because history is an unending parade of white (and honorary Aryan in this case) achievement. Not to mention how clearly it shows what kind of society comes out on top, what social changes cause the collapse of nations, and perhaps most impotently, the danger of the jew.

If the general public had an honest overview of history up to this point, even a very basic one, leftists and jews would be slaughtered en masse.

He who controls the past controls the future. Perception of history specifically your own history alters how people view themselves and the world around them. White guilt is a side effect of a leftist view of histor .

Because they are ideologues.

Marxism is linear. It assumes dogmatically that the more time passes, the more evolved we become.

It rejects things such as the cyclical notion of empire, etc.

So anything that was not today (hence why the current year meme was so liked by them) is barbarism.

This user said it perfectly:

Basically, the Marxist worldview relies on an intellectual structure that is too abstract and circular to admit historical fact.

It's good to point out the tactics used in the OP image:
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Truth is, Japan got nuked partly because the yanks wanted to show off, and partly because they wouldn't give up. Every territory fought by the allies was one they paid for dearly.
Now he backpedals
A totally baseless claim

And they say that blissfully unaware that future Marxists (if any remain after the Day of the Rope), would say the same of them?

Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC, right?

This is why we need to make sure anything written by Karl Marx does not survive the DotR. In fact, Lenin and Stalin must be purged from history as well.

I wanna start this fire

Why do liberals/marxists hate history?
Simple. History is their enemy.

History is replete with faggots like them who think they know what's what trying to build a utopia/ just let people be themselves/ live and love with open borders maaaaan getting destroyed in the same ways traditionalists and other rightist predict will happen as a result of their current beliefs

"We should take in immigrants who don't share our values"
"They just want our stuff not to be like us"
"You are so intolerant, do you have any proof #notall"current political pet")
"Ask the Roman's what happened when they took in the visigoths or Carthage when they took in the troy refugees (who later became romans).)
"Ew, you read history, it has no bearing on modern day. We have evolved"


Being a student of history requires a certain kind of humility. It requires a certain kind of foresight to see how applicable it is to today.

Though ultimately it comes down to the fact that marxists tear down what came before to make way for what comes next and because of that they become ensnared in the cycle of history and being it's unwitting pawn. Often becoming the very thing g they hate. For example many liberals hate nazis but would be the ones who would actually genocide people like in Soviet Russia.

On the other hand you have us. People who build upon the past and importantly recognize that we cannot escape the cycle of history. That is to say; there is nothing new under the sun. What has been done will be done again all that's left is to do what is in our ability to do.

The Roman's and Greeks knew this, it's why they obsessed over their names being remembered because they realized that was the only meaningful thing they could accomplish in the eye of history.

Ironically enough, just like the actual nazis we are the ones who are the least likely to do a holocaust or at least our present nazis would be if not for learning from the previous nazis mistakes.
The reason being is that we think. We calculate. We listen to council and acknowledge our faults and seek to find more in ourselves so we can know what our weaknesses are.

Marxists only.look up towards the sky which is why they are so prone to destruction. They ignore their ancestors wisdom

Then organize and have a good old-fascioned pogrom.

Perhaps /meadhall/ would be a place to start…

His post is pretty shit but that specific point isn't entirely baseless. China being a gigantic +2000 year old series of empires has always had a massive effect on it's neighbours, particularly Korea (Who up until Japan annexed them was perpetually a Chinese satellite state) and Japan. It's easy to see the how China was always an influence in Japan just by comparing architecture, religion (Specifically Buddhism/Buddhist-Shinto syncretism) philosophy and so on. The katana, for example, most probably came to Japan in it's earliest form from China, which was refined as a weapon until it came to the form that the Japanese stuck to for hundreds of years.

Japan is a very unique place that has great differences even from it's most immediate neighbours but that doesn't mean everything they have ever used since before 1850 was something completely original that they and only they came up with.

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It can be summed up in two quotes, user.


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Marxism does not acknowledge the past. Depending on the type of Marxism (read: flavor of shit) history is either ignored, purposefully rewritten or vehemntly demonized. For Marxists, everything that came before them is "capitalist/fascist/White oppression of the masses". Stalin tried to rewrite history, Mao demonized it as feudalistic garbage, Tito did not give a shit, Ceausescu actively targeted students, historians and priests, etc.

Yep. Future Marxists, if any survive, will look at today's Marxists with disdain and repeat the same old "true communism/socialism/dolpinsexual queerism has never been tried" garbage. This ideology is as destructive as it is self-destructive.
Read up on 1937 USSR purges. 85% of the original Communist Party were branded up as "counter-revolutionaries", rounded up and shot. The same would have been done to Stalin's own goons if he was succeeded by a "true" commie.

It is true that nations within each others geographic region will have marked effects on each other culturally. Ripped off wholesale though? Totally false. The guy isn't even claiming what you've stated there, he's disparaging any and all great achievements of the Japanese people, like those who say "everything great about Rome was ripped off wholesale from Greece."

If you control the past, you can change the future to your liking.

History is a cornerstone of nationalism/patriotism.

You can only be proud of your Nation, if you know about its achievements and struggles.

The way modern Empires gained loyalty from its population, regardless if it was the French, Prussia, the Russians or the British, wasn't through militarism and oppression, but through a education of their Countries History already starting in Elementary School.

That way people know what cost their Country had to pay to reach the top of the international food chain and became unwilling to give it up, just because it doesn't fit in some emotional fools idea of a perfect world.

Nice cursor, idiot.

Because the Leftist view of history is one of continual progress eventually culminating in a leftist utopia from which there can be no further historical development. The "end of history". The values, powers and legacy of the past thus constitutes a threat, for should it ever become apparent that the evil, dark and ignorant past was perhaps nicer than the wonderful, progressive social paradise - there would be dissent. And this would not be good. The left must constantly maintain the illusion that today is better than any other day and tomorrow will be better still.

And then there's the more practical desire for all regimes to imprint their own values on the past. In the Left's case these values are equality and progress. To an extent the nature of history means this always occurs, but there's a difference between informed argument to press for a reconsideration of the facts and dogmatic revisionism from an a priori method.

They deserve nothing but contempt.

I may not be the honorary president of the Japan Fan Club, but this leftism is insane.
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There's nothing I can say that hasn't been said better already, but suffice to say if Marxists paid attention to history, they wouldn't want to be Marxists. The insane mental gymnastics they pull to justify "it's never been tried" never fail to astound.

Well gee! Soooooooorrrrrrrrrry. Faggot.

It should be self explanatory OP. But multiple accounts of history have shown and proven shit time and time again. From Rome's falling, to jews having a history of getting kicked out of civilizations they inhabit.

They hate it because it pokes holes in their narrative and shakes down their towers of lies. They do their best to rewrite history as much as possible or destroy it so that they can control the narrative and agendas.

Hell, you look at the coup in turkey and most millenials of today who haven't been given a history run down would think this coup attempt was the only revolt attempt. They wouldn't dare point to 1776, or how history of China having so many fucking dynasties was by belief of the "mandate of heaven" which also made it an easier time to accept when the current ruler was a corrupt degenerate faggot who needed to be put down.

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They rounded them up and shot them? Those people were living stores of knowledge. And they just murdered them? Why would they do something so heinous or foolish

Have you not been reading the thread? They were dangerous to the Marxist narrative. Leftists historically exterminate every group poised to know better than to believe their bullshit; students, doctors, professors, teachers, clergy and priests. Funny how students and professors, who were slaughtered by groups like Khmer Rouge and Maoists, are all leftists now.

Leftists are senseless evil people who will contort themselves into the most batshit doublethink to rationalize their desire for mass death. I don't think they even care who dies so long as someone does.

Students were the ones doing the slaughtering under Mao user

And then students themselves got sent to camps and shot. Read up about the Hong Weibing, aka Red Guards. Useful idiots as is.

Yeah, you're right. Sorry, I just got off a ten hour work shift and I'm getting my communist groups mixed up. The kids at my college would make Mao proud, the god damn LGBTQLMOP alliance makes the Red Guard look fucking tame.
Regardless, is right. Leftism always ends in people getting killed en masse anyways.

Because they adhere Whig history, which views the past as an inevitable progression towards greater liberty, equality, democracy etc.

Therefore everything in the past is less liberal, equal, democratic etc and thereby shit/evil/irrelevant.

They're fucking children.

And kids are cruel.

Cultural Marxism works on low self-esteem people.
And if you were depressed or worked with these kind of people then you know that they put themselves down all the time.
They project that on their political opinions. And by that they believe that they will make themselves happy. But it's a vicious cycle.

Marxism works on people that are not in their natural state of consciousness but more in a "standby phase" which can be manipulated and fed information withouth resistance. A brain scan can easily show you that state.
The goal is the abolition of cultures, nations and of the self through the manipulation of this state of mind. Only the state remains.

Every wonder why Jews mutilate dicks and fuck kids all over their synagogues? To give them trauma, fracture personalities and produce all sorts of mental illness which helps to control them.
Cultural marxism is essentially a brain wipe and a copy of the Jewish religion and culture just for goys withouth any of the monetary benefits.

Our whole society has been infected like this via the stress of economy and media manipulation of the kikes.

This is how it works, brought to you by Besmenov. The supporters of Communism become it's strongest opposition when it comes into place because their ideals were betrayed. So after they're used they're killed with the rest.

Within our lifetimes every cultural American artifact from pre 1964 - movies, magazines, books, images, music - will be viewed of with the same credulous distance that modern Germans view the period of 1933-1945.

It will be billed and introduced as the "white Supremacist era" and most of the people will be either mixed race or of exclusively non-European heritage and not think of it as their history

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Yeah, nah. The 2000-2020 will be recorded in the history books as "The Age of Degeneracy" and SJWs and their hooknosed ilk will be used as bogeymen to scare chidren.

The Earth is going to crack open in the next three years and we're all going to live on a giant space tree.

Way too early on all accounts.

This assertion is bullshit though. History is ALWAYS being rewritten to a more convenient version. (Ultimately that's also why it's impossible to truly learn from it.) In fact, sore losers often are more motivated to rewrite history and trumpet their version, whereas victors stop giving a shit after a while.

Stalinists were purged throughout the Khruschev era, just instead of having them shot they had them blacklisted or demoted to humiliating positions. Molotov, once the Foreign Minister under Stalin, was still a loyal Stalinist. When he acted to (democratically) oust Khruschev along with other Stalinists, he was demoted to ambassador to Mongolia which was a backwater Soviet puppet at the time.

That happened for two reasons: the people were sick and tired of living in fear inspired by Stalin and Khruschev was looked upon as a guy who would "thaw" that fear a bit. This is why russkies refer to Khruschev's reign as "ottepel" (thawing).
Had the old fart acted as his predecessors did, aka gotten the entire old administration rounded up and shot, it would have made him even more unpopular than Stalin was, and possibly provoked a revolt. He was (relatively) milder and forgiving because it improved his public image. Which did not help him much anyway, since he was an absolute retard in all fields required to run a state.

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Or in other words:
He was installed as a wink to those who wanted change but got shafted in return as a consequence of choosing a retard to do a man's job.
Sounds familiar?

Pretty much this. Maybe not necessarily more "evolved", but certainly more advanced.

For them, yesterday was always barbarism and we're always somehow on the right track.

Yep.
Khruschev was one hell of a clown, though. He knew full well the rest of the party looked down on him due to him being from a backwater hick village, and thus suffered from a massive inferiority complex that spurred him to do ridiculous shit.
At least King Nigger has advisors to keep him from showing much of his inner baboon.

History proves them wrong without exception. Destroying understanding of history is an integral part of controlling people and installing their marxist horseshit. Why do you think we took the term memory hole from 1984? Go read Fahrenheit 451 too.

never forget boynie sandahs support of NATO bombing serbia
the jew fears the chetnik

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HISTORY = HIS STORY

Literally what the patriarchy actually believes about itself

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History cannot be shamed or talked down to.

So the next best option for these cretins is to revise/rewrite or more often than not insert modern causes into piss poor tv/movies set in the past.

They honestly delude themselves into believing that their muh_inclusive worldview will usher in a Brave New World™ of Peace, Love, and Harmony® can thrive. Where every.single.LGQT+ALPHAPET_OtherKin can all live in harmony together with nothing but funtimes ahead.

History does nothing but remind everyone that the world is actually controlled by mean ol' Men, and worst of all–White Men. This harsh reality is something they want to recoil from and will lie about to their final breath in hopes enough suckers will buy into it to finally change things.

So, two factors OP: 1) Self-agrandizing delusion, and 2) the "Repeat a lie often enough and it will believed" effect, commonly embraced by the MSM.

Confirmed. One of the nice attributes about the truth user is that there are no versions of it heh.

I've tried to argue with leftypol commies about Trump a couple times, their main sticking point in the conversation being that America was never great. None of the accomplishments of American history would sway them, they would just google some of the shadier bits of the time and parade that as if it was proof positive of no time in our history ever being exemplary. I asked them to point out any point in history which could be considered great by that criterion and I was met with nothing. They knew about the Maoist deaths, Khmer Rouge killing fields, and Stalinist pogroms but that wasn't 'real' communism goyim.

They wanted history to move towards the 'global revolution' but it happened locally in 1991.

they hate history because history isn't subjective. it's a list of shit that happened, and the stuff that's well documented shows cause and effect. this can be used to fuck over their arguments on stupid shit like communism or mass immigration. great leaders of the past also tend to lack current year values, and that's a horrible thing. i remember a friend's gf on goybook posted some quote from george washington, and she prefaced it with "i know the guy was a racist slave owner piece of shit, but he's got a point with this"

also, if anybody wants to get some triggering done against commies, just say that communism goes against human nature. i've never seen more rage and pseudo-psychology than when i've done that

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One of the Soviets' favorite pastimes was shamelessly rewriting the history of every nation they subjugated. That's why most of Eastern Europe is so fucked up.

The default throughout history was nationalism and what they call racism. They don't like these things, therefore they won't like history. That and history shows that socialism and communism are massive failures, can't let people see that.

Problem with the "human nature" argument is that it is basic as fuck, doesn't go into any detail about what human nature is or anything like that, not to mention that Commies believe in nurture over nature, and that human nature can be modified through environmental changes, lysenko in particular was notorious for taking nurture > nature views to pseudoscientific delusional extremes, to the point where most of the crops in the Soviet Union died after being transplanted to environments that they could not grow in.

Because leftism, historically, is a complete failure every single place it's ever been tried. If they accepted history they couldn't be leftists.

It's really very simple. The commies and leftists and their (((ilk))) have one motto above all others: "not one step back" this motto guides their every move. Makes them so aggressive. They will not tolerate halts, slowdowns or any of it even though it would be far more efficient to do so.

This post might have more to do with the poster being Korean than leftist.

Funny how the gooks resent the Japanese for civilizing their backwards asses.

Friendly reminder: that word is slanderous, and was coined by kikes. Use NatSoc.

Are you implying that real-life shitposting on a Mongolian woodcarving forum while surrounded by a bunch of horses and throat-singing dudes dressed in garish clown costumes is somehow a bad thing?

they hate whites