The Mediterranean race is the greatest race in the world

It's not the German people who are fucking your country up you dumb faggot, Germans get nothing out of this.
It's the private (((bankers))) who pump their shekels in depsite knowing that the people will never be able to pay them back because they know EU and traitorous politicians
will force other countries to pay them back and that they'll be able confiscate resources for cheap if they don't get paid back in full + interests.

Nignogs: "We wuz kangz n sheeit"
Pooskin Mediturds: "We wuz kangsium et sheeitum"

What's the difference?

Meds are literal subhumans who have more in common with arabs than germanics

MOVE ALONG FOLKS, JUST ANOTHER D&C THREAD, NON-D&C-SHILLS MAY NOT ENTER

I knew there would be some butthurt snowniggers ITT.

Ancient Greeks and Romans looked the same as modern Italians and Greeks. The ridiculous myth that they were all blonde and blue eyed Nordics is easily debunked by looking at their colored frescoes and mosaics. Most of them had olive skin, dark hair and dark eyes. It wouldn't make sense for them to be super-fair in pigmentation because those traits aren't fit for the hot climate of the Mediterranean: theoi.com/Galleries.html/Galleries.html

You're partially right about that, but it's because of the Near Eastern connection during the neolithic, not because of recent admixture from those people. Neolithic farmers were predominantly dark haired and dark eyed.

I fucked up the link: theoi.com/Galleries.html

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He got a weird tan for a Slav.

There is no "mediterranean race". There are only Aryans, Semites, and mongrels.

The Sumerians, Hurrians/Hattians, and Elamites may or may not have had some special racial gifts that allowed them to invent agriculture, cities, and writing. We'll never really know because they were subsequently eliminated. It's possible that they just were in the right place at the right time, and have a first-mover advantages. It's also quite likely that they were a gifted race to begin with, but early theocratic agricultural civilizations are extremely dysgenic. The world will never know.

The Indo-Europeans, on the other hand, were highly gifted. Without writing or any other settled civilization to enhance technical/scientific progress, they domesticated the horse, invented large scale cattle-herding (and quite likely, the wagons and solid wheels that went with it); they definitely invented the spoked wheel, the chariot, and various forms of carpentry and craftsmanship that go into that; they appear to have perfected late Bronze Age metallurgy and definitely invented iron-working; and they also invented some of the first real ships.

Using this spectacular technological supremacy (which, again, coming without any real social technologies that favored technical innovation, must be strong evidence of the race's cognitive gifts), the Indo-Europeans spread out and conquered people everywhere.

However, on the periphery of Indo-European power, the conquerors either formed only a superficial ruling stratum (for example, Hyskos Egypt and later Ptolemaic Egypt; the Mitanni; some other states) or else enslaved aboriginal populations who eventually became the core demographic base of the empire.

As a result, the Aryan kingdoms founded beyond the Indus River, which were always majority non-Aryan, very quickly lost their Aryan component even among the political class and (in some regions) the priestly classes. The Greek Republics managed to keep Aryan citizens distinct from their slaves/helots/metics for a long time, but as the slave population grew to vastly outnumber the citizen population and Greek power spread out across the Semitic rim of the Eastern Med, the population became gradually intermingled and mongrelized. The same fate befell the Roman Empire. As the demographic core of each Indo-European group was compromised, political institutions stopped working; artistic, philosophical, and technological innovation ceased, and decay began to set in.

The Indo-Europeans who accomplished the least, ironically - the Germanics who settled in a northerly position that wasn't exposed to ancient Mediterranean population centers - were those who were in the best position to carry forward the flame of pure-bred Indo-European ancestors whose own direct descendants had become thoroughly mongrelized. That is why the Italian Renaissance did not take place in Southern Italy, the center of ancient Mediterranean science (and also, the highest degree of mongrelization) but among the recently-arrived Germanic aristocracies of Lombardy, Venice, and Tuscany; and it's why the core of the modern intellectual revolution was in the most purely Aryan populations, those which had never been under Roman or Greek rule and thus had never had a single Semitic/Hamitic slave imported in to dumb down the population.

Of course they were not as white as an Icelandic dude, that's pure logic. But you can't deny the fact that they were white. The Old Mediterraneans were dark haired with dark eyes, but their skin was lighter than most of the people in Italy/Greece today.
The modern Mediterranean is not comparable to the Old one, because of the invasions,immigrations, and the temporary occupation of a part of Europe by the Semitic people and other races.

German-Italian mix master race

Your Nordicist crap theory is easily debunked by the fact that Sardinians are the darkest Italians when it comes to pigmentation and they have been found to have zero extra European admixture in most genetic studies, coincidentally, they're the Italians who are almost pure ENF.

Greco-Italians created the foundation for all European civilization after them. They had their glory days of a few thousand years dominating the Med Sea.

Before and during Greco-Italian domination the Celts were the most dominant culture/race of Europeans who stretched from Britannia to northern Iberia all the way across the Balkans and into Anatolia (see Galatians)

The Germanics took the lead of European civilization after the Greco-Italians had lost their supremacy since the fall of both Roman Empires and especially after the Industrial Revolution.

Now we are living in an age where all the Celtic, Germanic and Med Sea countries are sick and degenerate and the only people who by in large don't want to kill themselves are the Slavs and other Eastern Europeans like the Magyars and Baltics.

I honestly believe that we are living in the transitory era between Germanic domination of European civilization to Eastern European domination where the Eastern European man dominated by the Slavs will take the reigns of European civilization.

The West and all its colonies are weak and degenerate. The Slav, Balt and Magyar don't want to kill themselves and will actually put up a fight unlike the decadent westerners.

inb4 Russiaboo or Slavshit. I'm a mystery meat burger and this how I see the world

Go away fag. Florentines were singular visionaries who created the Renaissance (with help from Byzantines)–not because of German aristocracies.

Indo-Europeans were unironically cucks. They didn't conquer anybody. Watch this: youtube.com/watch?v=6ex6ovDSx5o

Aryan race incorporates Britain, Greece, Rome and Persia. Even the Japanese supposedly have a decent amount of Aryan blood in them.

I enjoy a good history thread, and a bit of banter is always fun. But when we look at actual 'races' or 'species' of man it just is not fair. The Chinks have done pretty well too though to be fair.

lol, wtf does that even mean. Florence was ruled for hundreds of years by Gothic and then Lombardian nobility. In Dante's time they all claimed to be descended from Charlemagne (i.e., Karl der Große). Did you never think it was unusual that the two political parties among all the Renaissance aristocrats were the Welfs and Waibelings?

I can't imagine why I would watch a video recommended by someone so transparently ignorant about ancient history.

Bait thread and D&C shit.

I wouldn't mind.HRE again when?

He makes some very good arguments for it and he's Norwegian (the people with the highest Indo-European admixture in Europe), so he's not a biased "Mediterranean shitskin" or anything. Varg is based.

It means individuals like Dante, Bracciolini, Petrarch, Machiavelli etc stand at the dawn of the modern world because of individual genius… and not your pleb view of the world.

The Gothic connection is not disputed idiot. They were a Romanized warrior class–which is why they spoke Latin.

Soon.

The juden are behind this meme. They're still mad the Roman Empire kicked their asses.

This is as D&C as it gets.

I don't care whether I'm hearing it from a Med or a Nord or whoever, but anyone who thinks the Indo-Europeans didn't conquer anyone knows nothing about the archaeological, linguistic, or genetic evidence. (Never mind the actual written historical record.)

Lol, and it's just because of their singular vision and a little help from the Byzantines that this happened in the Po Valley and not the Congo Basin? Okay, you soaring emanation of the Cosmic One; I'll just stick to my pleb vision where adult cognitive capacity is just as strongly heritable as height, and you can have your amazing coincidences about where these individual geniuses just happen to pop up.

They spoke Latin because they learned it in school. Luther, Montaigne, and Newton all also spoke Latin, without any of their ancestors having been Roman mercenaries. The Gothic/Lombardian inheritance is significant for population genetics, not for establishing which language they spoke. Some IE ruling classes didn't even speak IE languages… the Mitanni, for example.

If you think that Italians and Norwegians are going to fight on opposite sides of a race war because of either (a) a thread on Holla Forums or (b) historical disagreements about the role of dysgenics and conquered populations in the fall of the Roman Empire, you are LARPing big time.

Modern Italians will never admit this but the Roman's were wiped out and completely assimilated. Modern italians are either germans in the north or arab rape babies in the south. Western civilization has surpassed every other civilization to have existed even rome.

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It obviously bothers you that they showed up in a region that is not even close to pure German (or whatever you're trying to push)

But don't worry man, I'm sure you'll be able to burn all the history books and promote your revised view of the world.

There is no genetic evidence for this. Muslims only conquered Sicily and had a small emirate in Calabria which only lasted 23 years. They were then employed by the Normans and allowed to live in a few southern town but faced mass-expulsions shortly after. If you think Italians are dark because of recent admixture you're an idiot with no real knowledge of genetics. Sardinians are the darkest pigmented Italians and there's no study that supports significant extra-European admixture for them.

academicjournals.org/article/article1379514057_Lucotte and Yuasa pdf.pdf

The 374F mutation in the SLC45A2 gene encoding the membrane associated transporter protein (MATP) has been suggested to be associated with skin color in Caucasians. In this synthesis, we collected the distribution of the 374F allele in 2910 unrelated subjects from 28 European and 4 North African
populations. The highest allele frequency was observed in Denmark (0.98) and the lowest frequencies were observed in Tunisia (0.61) and in Algerian Mozabites (0.40). A significant decreasing latitudinal cline in 374F allele frequencies was observed, ranging from the north of West Europe to North Africa (R²
= 0.6781).

Distribution of 374F allele frequencies in 32 populations of West Europe and North Africa (N = sample size).
No. Country Region/population Latitude (°) N Frequency of 374f References
1 Germany Northrhine-Whestphali 50.9 241 0.965 Yuasa et al. (2006)
2 Munich 48.1 93 0.962 “
3 France Rheims 49.2 98 0.893 “
4 Italy Genoa 44.5 97 0.85 “
5 Denmark Copenhagen 56 51 0.98 Lucotte et al. (2010)
6 England London 51.5 56 0.955 “
7 Belgium Brussels 50.5 53 0.934 “
8 France Lille 50.5 64 0.945 “
9 Rennes 48 52 0.971 “
10 Marseilles 43.2 312 0.888 “
11 Perpignan 43 101 0.827 “
12 Corsica 42 328 0.878 “
13 Germany Mulheim 50 59 0.975 “
14 Switzerland Basel 47.2 51 0.961 “
15 Italy Roma 41.9 64 0.898 “
16 Napoli 41 128 0.859 “
17 Sicily 38 39 0.833 “
18 Sardinia 40 100 0.805 “
19 Spain Barcelona 41 59 0.856 “
20 Sevilla 37.5 71 0.725 “
21 Portugal North 42 79 0.725 “
22 South 38 59 0.780 “
23 Morocco Tangier 35.8 123 0.691 “
24 Algeria Algier 36.5 141 0.709 “
25 Tunisia Tunis 36.5 73 0.610 “
26 England Orcades 59 16 1 Norton et al. (2007)
27 France 46 29 0.91 “
28 Basque 43 24 0.94 “
29 Italy Bergamo 46 14 0.96 “
30 Tuscan 43 8 0.94 “
31 Sardinia 40 28 0.68 “
32 Algeria Mozabite 32 30 0.40 “

Another food for thought: Basques are darker than Italians in hair and eye color on average and they're also very pure genetically going by most genetic studies on them. They're also one of the few remaining groups of Europe who don't speak a language derived from Indo-European along with the Finns, Hungarians and Estonians.

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I thought the banks were controlled by Jews? What happened with that?

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The conflicting ideologies of Nordicism which was employed by Nazi Germany and Mediterraneanism which was employed by fascist Italy was the real reason the alliance didn't work out. How do you expect Italians to trust people going all "WE WUZ" on your achievements and claiming you're inferior to them?

Most of Holla Forums are germanaboos who think germans are perfect and everything they have done is perfect and without fault.

Tbh they like hitler so they become obsessed with germans and they think they are german

In reality germans are like nubians compared to the patrician, Egyptian people of southern europe

Are you fucking kidding me? The italians sucked because they were butthurt about being racially inferior?
Ideology like that doesn't come into play when you're fighting a war, dumbass.
The Italian soldiers were on the whole alright fighters but their entire command structure was rotten and corrupt due to the old Mediterranean trait of promotion by favors and nepotism rather than ability.
The officers in charge of leading troops and handling supply lines were all foolishly incompetent.
Rommel said the Italian soldiers fought excellently when lead by German officers.

The Nazis couldn't out-think the jews tbh. Autism can be easily exploited. Shame.

This D&C.

No, I'm referring more to the "betrayal" that happened later. Italians didn't really trust the Germans much due to the opposed ideologies. And you're forgetting to mention that they used antiquated WW1 weaponry mostly in the war as well. A result of not being able to adapt to the industrial revolution fast enough.

The Italians had both possible outcomes covered. The masonic network between England-France-Italy weren't too thrilled about the German blob.

Honestly, I agree completely. Mesopotamia and Egypt would be on par with Europe today if not for Islam, inbreeding (side-effect of Islam), racemixing, climate changes and the Mongols destroying everything of value there. That's a fact. Civilization didn't start there for no reason. Italians owe most of their success due to having well preserved genes of those great ancient mediterranean people.

besides that d and c thread. it's true.
italian politicians are completely bought and clearly put europe above italy.
some even say as much…

Lol, Mussolini couldn't even conquer the damn Ethiopians. The real problem with the alliance wasn't a lack of trust/cooperation, it was that Hitler had to bail out the Italians over and over again.

Holla Forums is way to wrapped up in muh 100% blonde hair blue eye pure nordic/german to admit that Italians are anything but niggers

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4kids came when 4cucks went down and didn't go back.

What is the purpose of this thread?
To counter nordicism?
Anyone smarter than a nigger sees through the shilling, so you're just responding to shitposting with more shitposting.

t. Iberian

Politicians are bought and paid for, we are almost fully controlled from Brussels. As you know the EU is a rigged game, so there's really no point either. It's all bread and circus, the biggest victim is the German taxpayer. The Euro is Rothschild money. Basically what said. By the way I assume he was talking about the German govt, not the people.

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sure thing, pal

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Read a book.

This is a lie. The Aryans completely exterminated the original Mediterranean farmers from northern Europe and became the aristocracy of Southern Europe. Northern Europeans are physically larger and more intelligence than the squat brown Southern Europeans.

Southern Europeans outnumbered Northern Europeans with ratio of 10 to 1 before advances in Northern European agricultural technology during the middle ages. As soon as the Northern European population size became competitive with that of Southern Europe, Northern Europeans surpassed Southern Europeans in every measure of civilizational complexity.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carruca

Northern Italians had the benefit of being the only largely
Northern European population with a high population density. They are still intelligent, but are now outnumbered by actual Northern Europeans and are economically held back by the shiftless Southern Italian kebabs.

we aquaman now
OP is a faggot and a jew shill
He should be gassed

Hercules was originally from Berber mythology though

That's just pathetic

Are all Italians "Romans" now you shitskin?

The ancient hellenics were a nordic tribe, the romans weren't Arabian-tier skinned and there was a fair amount of nordic looking people and there existed civilization in northern and central Europe for longer than it is believed (Tollense battle).

I don't believe civilzation started there. I believe civilization is much older than people think and that the only reason many ancient sites are studied is because: a. they don't want certain people having the "wrong" idea and that b. it would take a lot of money and put into question the authority of the current historians if the beginning of civilizations was put into question.

Hercules has a counterpart in Berber mythology. That doesn't mean Hercules CAME from Berber mythology.

To add on, northern europe was either too cold for people to live in or too cold for proper agriculture to take place. Nomadic and semi-nomadic was the ideal way to survive, and only once things started heating up did the nordics started to properly advance since they didn't have to constantly worry about whether or not they'll survive the winter.

HUUR BUT THEIR MANLETS
FUCIIN MANLETS WEN WILL THEY EVER LERN?

It's always Divide+Conquer when any other group of whites try to be proud of their history. But we are all expected to celebrate the small period of German history where they were relevant for less than two decades.

Get fucked Germs. Before the mudslimes showed up, you were the equivalent of Europe's orcs; brutish savages destroying cultures far superior to your own.

Modern Mediterraneans are irrationally mad when people question their ancestry. Hellenics are no longer the same people as they were during the earlier days, only northern Italy is the same race they were during ancient times, southern Italy is too diluted with arabian blood to be considered the same. Egypt being in Africa has constantly been diluted by Arabian and African blood, Mesopatamia is no longer the same race as the ancients being diluted by Arabian blood, Constantinople is a filled with nothing but Turks and Iberia, mainly southern Iberia is diluted with Arabian blood. It's not something insane to comprehend after the all the years of war.

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You forgot to mention these are the actual colors they were painted in because they found small paint particles and actual statues and just replicated them.

Augustus has the face structure of a Slavic person, with a large cranium and smaller jaw. The northern Italians aren't and never were Swarthy, you might want to take note that Julius Caesar only ever met the areas directly contested and never really bothered in studying their culture. He didn't bother looking deeper into Northern Europe or Eastern Europe. The Germanic way of life can be noted as similar to the Spartan way of life with many similarities and customs, they didn't bother in anything that wasn't hunting or war. Tacitus describes the Germans as having fierce blue eyes, reddish hair and huge bodies. He notes that they seem unmixed and seem "distinct" in their looks, meaning that they all looks relatively the same. His notes are only derived from others works and he never actually traveled to Germany. He says that the Germans didn't use much of any iron but instead used Bronze weapons (spears). Only after his death did the germans actually started to use Iron weapons in abundance. Julius never really called upon their looks as anything strange, only really calling them larger than most Romans. This can be taken that blonde hair and blue eyes was exceptional in Rome, though some great families were called after their light hair and eye color.

The reason the Germans really didn't care about cities and agriculture is because they lived a simplistic life. Really their habits can be called Spartan. They did not like having much of anything, they believed in simplicity and tried their best to avoid greed. They were proud, to be short.

Really if you wanted to you can even argue that the Germans weren't even properly nordic if you took the words of these men who did not care much about the Germans as fact.

This triggered the anglos

spaniards produced the mestizo people, are you proud of that?

Ok Augustus is slavic. whatever. Just look up his physical description.
Means darker complexion than the typical nord. Northern i-ties don't get confused for Swedes.

What's the relevance?
I'd say Ancient Romans behave like Arabs.
Yep, very nordic behavior there.

I'm just giving you something to relate to when I say acting like Spartans. Augustus isn't slavic, I'm again just giving you something to relate to.

You are mad because we cucked the natives and we get the pussy. They got bleached and we made South America more white..

Well, if it's 100% true, O.P.

This is a bait thread.

The Med destroys great races.

The Italians and their ilk were great, once.

Now, they're admixed into nothingness.

Modern Italians are nothing like their ancestors of 1400-1600, let alone prior to that.

Lol,most meds look like arab shitskins.

Also fuck off for trying D&C

Except you didn't.

You just fucked dirty, ugly mudpeople, because you didn't bring enough actual women with you.

Dude, you might as well be talking about how you fucked your donkeys too - that shits bestiality bro.

Nice, you intermixed with subhumans to produce mongrels, which you subsequently bred with - as well as your niggers! - to produce the epitome of mongrels (only if one excludes the Med races, the mongrelest of the mongrel races, of course).

But no, tell us more about how you made the subhuman Aztecs more white, and how we're totally upset that we didn't get to put our dicks in toe-headed Injun trash (because the alternative was being a faggot).

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i was looking at a picture of cesar and my mom came in and said it looked liked me

This aroused the Iberians.

So the entire German history from the 5th century onward, and all their achievments
can be ignored.

Now races change in the space of 300 years? Well you learn something new everyday.

You mean like a faggot?

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The period of great German history started in the 5th century when Childeric founded the Merovingian dynasty, so that's already 1.5 thousand years.

Of course races change in the course of 300 years.

That's the danger of admixture in the context of evolutionary processes.

And I mean, its more than 300 years bro… The Moors invaded Hispania in the early-700s, and weren't expelled until the early-1200s, potentially as late as the late-1400's if you want to get technical.

So, yes, 500-700 years of heavy admixture WILL change a race, there's no question there; nor is there any question that such admixture transpired upon the Med races during that period - nor did it stop then, given that Med is, as it has always been, a means of introduction of admixture.

Basically none of the Med races are presently equivalent to what they were in 1400 - which is probably why their share of the achievements had dwindled by 1800, and have since continued to diminish.

Are you serious acting proud of being a mongrel? WTF!

Let's not forget that a lot of Spanish, French and Italian achievements where created by the descendents of Celtic and Germanic tribes in the region and that many of these aristocratic families refused to mix with the natives well into the Middle Ages!

Mods should ban everyone who posted here without saging for 48 hours

*switches proxy*
*tips menorah*

Depending on context, you could go even further back.

FFS, in the BC era, 'Germans' (the Cimbri and Teutons specifically, IIRC) were kicking the shit out of Roman legions with some degree of regularity, to the point the Romans were legit shitting their pants in fright.

Yes, to Pharamond in the 4th century.

What the fuck kind of race is that? Is that hair or a hat?

That's the race of the future, the Jews have envisioned.

Except for the fact no study shows heavy impact on the genetics of the population.
You are just a faggot posting haplogroups. Go back to kc.

You are aware that the Anglo-Saxons consider(ed) such an act disgusting, right? Whilst we were wiping clean North America to seed it with superior stock you muddied your own bloodlines and destroyed the future of South America. But what else could be expected of Spaniards?

The jews are going to bring back an extinct race? Jews can ungenocide people? Oy vey. Jews are gud bois

Shouldn't you be begging and reporting people, you mutt faggot?

Injuns weren't attractive bro, especially the ones in Central/South America.

The Aztecs in particular were pretty grotesque people - shit diet, pseudo-eugenics program designed to ensure only the most violent and cruel survived and got to breed, tendency toward self-mutilation, etc etc etc.

The image of the decent looking Injun broad is a falsehood - some exist today, but they are the product of admixture with actual humans, hardly even worthy of being considered the same animal as the things from whence they were born, following introduction of Iberian seed.

smh tbh fam

Why would Italians or Greeks depict themselves as anything but Italian or Greek?

Even further.

The Teutons and Cimbri threatening the Romans and fucking up their legions, repeatedly, was something like 1st or 2nd Century BC.

No you retard. Italians haven't changed from the 17th century. Their contributions to arts and sciences are still on par with historic levels, only now they do it more through diaspora populations.

They are, though the degree to which is still an ongoing field of research.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_Italy

Yea okay bro. I doubt they were all disgusting and ugly. And im sure they all didnt look like those two did. Just like europeans look vastly different. Im not american so ive never seen indians that looked like that. They look a little niggerish. Also if thats their hair they have nigger hair too. I assume not all of them had hair like that? Pocahontas didnt have nigger hair bro.

Because pale skin is a sign of beauty across the entire world.
That the south european peoples are tannedon average is just a result of manual under heavy sunlight. For some (((reason))) that shifted into the prefered paradigm of attractiveness so most of us are bloody tan

Such an intensive summer.

Yes, they have.

Sure thing Luigi.

WE

That depended on what the culture's main focus was. For a militaristic state tanned skin would have been the ideal.

That only works for niggers.

How have they changed comparative to other European populations.
I know they've achieved more than you but that's not much of a challenge.

But what are you now? How can you show your superiority in the present?
Southern European countries are dominated and puppeted due to their incompetence and produce less compared to the rest, you can blame this on anyone you like but it's your own peoples fault for failing to stand up and fight for dominance or even independence.
I also think you rely on the glories of your past much too much to the point you people even delude yourselves

What the fuck are you talking about?

Well, you're wrong.
They were all disgusting and ugly.
Your impression of their appearance is based entirely upon your exposure to already-admixed populations.

There were gross subhumans, tiny, ugly, weak, and generally just gross as fuck.
Most of the Spaniards didn't even enjoy getting their dick wet in that shit, but the alternative was buggery, because there were very few actual women on the entire fucking continent.

They were gross Injuns bro, and the ones in the South were especially nasty, because they didn't have much (if any) of the admixture from the European population that colonized North America prior to the Injun invasion.

Bro, you've never actually seen Pocahontas, there are no pictures of her.

And what drawings exist make her look like a disgusting fucking man-jawed toe-headed Injun.

Sparta. They literally would not allow children to wear protective clothing, they would throw them outside and let them do their business. They would gain leather-like dry skin because of that.

It's something to pass the time and helps people with their shit-flinging skills.

More admixture, over a longer period.

You don't even know what I am bro, which makes me giggle that I triggered a Italian niggle.

And how would that make them better soldiers?

He's just an anti-white shill,ignore him.

It would give them endurance, allow them to survive during the campaign season better and would allow them to not be effected by the heat. Naturally tan people don't have this characteristic since they were born tanned, Spartans weren't but were instead forced to be tanned.

Not that that matters, it's just what the Spartans believed to be ideal.

Struggle leads to strength bro.

Most of the great civilizations in history arose from people who experienced extreme hardship, became hard a result, and then crushed their softer (that is, more 'civilized' and thus less exposed to hardship) neighbors through conquest.

That's kind of the pattern, going throughout history:

So many nation-states/civilizations of greatness have followed this pattern.

Just look at Europeans - our entire history is basically a long series of trade-offs in this vein.

Still haven't explained how they've changed from the 1700's with no invasive immigration.

bro, giggle, triggered in one sentence. FMD.
I don't know what race you are… I can tell however that your contributions to civilization won't ever get above zero.

Man cannot grow without struggle, without pain, for he is both sculptor and marble.
Often, the sculptor becomes lazy, and the sculpture loses its quality - at which point, some new sculptor, who has been honing his 'craft', comes along to depose his predecessor.

Im talking about the fucking tanned skin. How does getting a tan. Make you a better soldier?

You sound ridicilous bro

The massive invasion came prior to the 1700s, and the consequences took time to expose themselves.

I have almost-certainly contributed more to civilization than you will throughout the entirety of your life, and I'm not even a third of the way through mine.

Stay salty Luigi. ;^)

cienciologia.wordpress.com/category/esparta-y-su-ley/

Spartans had tanned leather-like skin from being a soldier for literally their entire lives. Getting a tan, a simple tan, wouldn't help you with anything but having the skin comparable to wood would.

We aren't talking about 'getting a tan' m8, we're talking about the hardship of exposure to the elements.

You sound like a fuckin liberal with that nonsense - "how does the color of the skin change anything!?", ignoring that there are other facets to constant exposure in this context that act in a selective fashion.

It would appear to be a form of synthetic struggle, the Spartans understanding that struggle breed strength, and so imposing synthetic struggle/hardship upon their youth in an effort to generate the resultant strength of body, mind and soul derived from existence in a state of struggle and hardship.

I DID say Germany, not the german people. I thought it was obvious I was talking about the government. Or the (((government))). Particularly that bitch Merkel.

Are you fucking retarded? The guy said tanned skin would be idealistic for a military and i asked him to explain you fucking autistic mongoloid. Also i never disagreed with you faggot.

How insecure are you?

Makes complete sense.

Almost is correct bro. My contributions to the arts are already upper tier. But good luck to you.

I doubt its the tanning that hardened their skin. Sparring with wooden weapons working outside without a shirt lifting rocks or some shit would make your skin harder too. Punching the heavybag without wraps hardens the skin on your knuckles but whatever its a retarded conversation anyway

The sun dries and damages your skin. Long exposures to the sun for decades leave it looking leathery.

If you're thinking how didn't they have skin cancer, just know that they would probably be dead before they even have a chance for cancer.

Actually we wuz romans n shieeet, let me show you this strange antique bust with kind of nordic features :—)))

Skyrim belongs to the Nords you hairy freak!

Being hairy isn't really something unique to Mediterraneans.

You do know that Italians have a very typical European phenotype, right?

Then again you're probably a nigger desperately attempting to shift the mockery, it won't work.

are spaniards this retarded?

pretty much

I wasn't thinking that, but thanks for adding the point for those who might.

More like because Mussolini was a nigger who couldn't handle being overshadowed by Hitler and the Germans, so he chimped out. Then the Italians sucked so much at war that they only fucked everything up.

Worst fucking thread ever.

Either hypocrites, or shills, if this keeps going say goodbye to white unity.

Meds are majority non white,that's why they act like this

Jesus Christ, so much bullshit and pseudo science in this thread. You can tell the people posting it are faggots who have seen one image/infographic and think they're genetic experts, while not actually understanding anything that they've read. Please, don't believe any of the genetic crap mentioned in this thread without studying it yourself.

I'm a med, I have white skin and green eyes just that i have dark brown hair does not make me a shitskin.

And I believe this thread is just here to cause further in-fighting, we should for once admit our differences while also finding what we have in common and use that to the advantage of our race, there is no "Med race" neither there is a "nordic race" there is a white race.

You can be pale as a ghost, blonde as wheat, and have eyes as blue as the sky, but if you go out or your way to divide us instead of uniting us, then you should not be welcomed.

So how about we put our differences aside and just celebrate who we are and think of ways to further improve ourselves?