Fairly Odd Parents thread

Remaking after the mod had a Redwood tier chimpout all over the board.

FOP Booru
fop.booru.org/

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toonbabifier.deviantart.com/art/AR-ABDL-Wonder-Tot-Diapered-Duel-Cover-634588752
tweetsave.com/nickandmore/status/814230022311608321
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new episodes on the way

I think it was either some Holla Forums guy trying to clean up Holla Forums from pedoshit because of the potential lefties coming to gawk at Holla Forums after Hilary Speech or some /a/ faggot finally had enough and wanted to purge cartoons from the chan culture.

it was so sudden tought that I thing the trumpster cleaning guy is the besty theory.

Nope, it happened because one guy who has an autistic grudge against the JoJo threads snatched a mod position and deleted half the threads on the board, even those with lots of Holla Forums material and OC. He then made a thread on Holla Forums bragging about it only to get ridiculed.

Not the first time it happened though, and though it probably won't be the last, we'll just keep getting back up every time we're knocked down, like in JoJo.

And certain episodes of FOP, of course.

But enough about all this dramedy, let's talk about FOP.

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Why are the post count pictures so grainy? Couldn't you ask vectorguy to fix those?

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I think its because the post count pictures have to be a certain, ridiculously low filesize.

I LOVE ANGRY BABBY VICKY!!

I wanted Tootie to be in the upcoming slave trainer game that halfchan /aco/ is making but some faggatron kept telling the maker (who wanted to add her) that he should add a bunch of irrelevant side characters instead.

Why don't we just make our own harem game with FOP characters instead?

Also, where's that guy who had ideas for a superherofied FOP story?

We'll need an artist and a coder for it at least.

I could do artwork but I don't think I'm as good as the Slave Trainer guy.

For artist you could hire DLT. Dunno if he would be interested though.

Goddammit, 8/co/. I love you too, but what's wrong with having standards?

he also killed the stickies user

nothing good about killing the rule thread and the share thread

Have some more Vicky pics that I don't think has been in the booru yet.

Nuking half the board because people were mean to him for a storytime he wouldn't even do is bad retard

Right, fair enough.

Someone needs to inject some life into this thread.

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Truly the Michelangelo of FOP

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Whats with you guys and diapers lately

It mostly comes from the same artist.
Honestly I prefer age swapping but some of it is cute.

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People attracted to Hartman's shit have literal shit taste - who knew?

Go back to Redwoodchan

I know its Toonbabifier but you all seem more conditioned to it than, say, posting that sort of stuff in Loud House thread.

I don't have a problem with it I just find it strange.


How stupid do you have to be to hate something because of its creator? I dislike Alex Hirsch and his obnoxious liberal drumbeating but that doesn't mean I can't like Wendy or Pacifica.

If you mean this, it was more of a group brainstorming.

Story:


Side notes:

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bump

Diaperfags must spread their cancer everywhere they go.

Eh, I was turned off Fred Gallagher, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Gerard Ashworth, and RHJunior's work when I found out what evil pieces of shit they were. That's kind of extremes, though, I mean, I think Alan Moore is a complete asshole, but I love his work to death.

Srs, though, no-one's still listening to Lostprophets. Even the band don't play their old work any more.

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i have separate areas to save things that are nomral cartoony pictures, vs lewd cartoony pictures

stuff in bikinis i can just put in the normal spot, stuff that is nude i put in the other spot

simon constantly draws things that are not traditionally NSFW, but still very lewdy

WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO SAVE THIS SHIT

Lewd

the fapfolder

Under "Simon"

I don't really get the appeal behind this ship

And how the fuck would a human/fairy hybrid even work?

Magic.

It's a cartoon.

He's a genie.

I was looking for a funny "Let's inject some life into this thread" picture.

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Here's something I think not a lot of people have seen. Or have seen in a good while. Will put them in the booru soon.

Why does niggerwood hate FOP so much?

Who cares?

Anyone got clips of the Japanese dub of FOP? I wanna hear Cosmo as Josuke "Gappy" Higashikata.

There are probably a few different reasons, but the main ones I can think of… For one, FOP represents part of the old internet from before 4chan took off or Holla Forums even was created. Lots of its artists came from WWOEC or other now defunct sites. It too, was part of the old way of Holla Forums: loli or outright porn allowed if it was spoilered, /ss/, waifu shitposting. Redwood and other mods wanted a safe space, so that whenever a meme storyboarder showed up from Cartoon Network or Korra or whatever they wouldn't feel threatened by the nature of the board. Also, post 2011 or so the FBI was really breathing down moot's neck so he might've ordered a crackdown sitewide on loli material that heavily effected FOP threads whose two most popular characters were underage girls.

Second, Redwood wanted to get rid of some people (mainly, those who knew he was a cocksucker before he became a mod) and used the self-fulfilling prophecy of ban evasion on them. Since those bans are hard as fuck to get lifted, can annoyingly be applied to any post no matter if its rule breaking or not, many people just reset their IP and posted again so it justified the ban. This was probably the biggest reason it died off there, many of the artists I knew say this happened to them at least once.

Going by the leaked IRC logs, they thought there was a "FOP spammer" that they eventually figured out was two or more people. In particular, the janitor fnfy raged hard about him because he thought the FOP spammer was the reason why the board in general was turning on the mod team, and not because of the shitty heavy handed way they started policing the board.

Can confirm. Its why I stopped posting there.

I went to the IRC channel, asked someone to unban me, they did but 15 minutes later I was banned again?

They really need to fix their fucking system if they ever want to salvage their site.

Check 'em.

That doesn't really matter here. It's just numbers: they ain't gonna suck you off. A 'reach around' maybe, but no sucky-sucky for you

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Nice one.

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Apparently "Fighter Tootie" was a thing many moons ago.

From the 4chan /aco/stg/ thread.

I wish I could get online at the same time as this guy, he seems to only post in the middle of the fucking night. Also, the dipshit mods over there are deleting and banning him for it. I want to convince him to come over here, oh, and add Tootie to the game.

Nice. If you could get a hold of him, ask him to do ones for Veronica and Chloe too.

Did he ever wish for a burner?

I always though it was some guys OC that was vaguely based off Tootie.

I literally only know of this show through "that" comic on 7chan (or the rule 34 board here, but it's "home" is 7chan, goddammit!), isn't Tootie around 12 and Trixie maybe 16-17?

Tootie and Trixie are canonically both 10, believe it or not.

Reposting from the other Holla Forums

=September 12th=

=September 13th=

=September 14th=

=September 15th=

=September 16th=

=September 19th=

=September 20th=

=September 21st=

=September 22=

=September 23=

Which of these episodes have Vicky in them? Regardless if its a minor or major appearance.

Tootie's age is never explicitly stated in the cartoon, but one of the Frederator episode scripts said she was eight, and its implied by the way Timmy talks about her a few times that she's younger than him.

I normally peruse the Loud House threads, but I gave into the FOP hype.

Here's Vicky in her "Oh Yeah! Cartoons" style.

Kinda funny, but it's good art (in that style)
Into the booru it goes.

Hello , I just watched FOP s10e5 and the last time I watched FOD Chloe wasn't in it. Whats the story here , it is just a marketing push that nobody want like Pink Pinky, Elmyra & the Brain ?

Timmy needs a girl to irritate him.
Vicky is played out, Chloe is her replacement.

MEGA for Blue Angel & Marked Man:
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And here are the megas for sash and rash and fish out of water:
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You people really arent fucking kidding when you say he's taken over the show.

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That would have been fun.

Test bump, can't seem to post for some reason.

That was weird. I only managed to watch Blue Angel and Marked Man, but they both had problems that I generally associate with making modern FOP neigh unwatchable.

Blue Angel had a somewhat interesting premise, was funny in some areas, but also extremely annoying in some areas. Mainly, Cosmo's running gag with the urinal, it wasn't funny at all and kept being a distracting presence in the episode. For a school episode, it was lacking most of the school cast, you'd think that Trixie or someone would show up to comment on the new popular girl. Also, Chloe felt like a mary sue character again, I don't know if this is a bad thing or not, they were clearly playing it for laughs.

MarkedMan was okay, it started out pretty decently, but again, where is the school cast? I could've sworn I saw A.J. in the title card, but he wasn't even in the episode. Instead, Crocker's mom shows up, she seems to show up nowadays more than Timmy's own mother. It's interesting to see them try to break status quo by Mark no longer needing to hide on Earth, but its not something that hugely effects the series since he was a minor character anyway. The last part with him going or whatever is a reminder of that classic bad Hartman humor where repeating things constantly is necessary along with ending with an unfunny line.

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Is there more, Gentle user?

If there are any drawfags on this board, requesting Timmy and Chloe, in their underwear and with their backs facing the viewer, doing a little dance.

here are the other pages

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Thank you, that's kinda neat.


Someone got a bargain.

Bump!

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Not that its a big deal, but someone should make a version of that without the fanart. It feels like cheating.

youtube.com/watch?v=DqfHvch3vsQ
thought this was pretty cool, he draws timmy, chloe, trixie, tootie, and many other characters

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Made me fantasize about angel Trixie.
A perfectly cute angelic girl… or is she?

That's pretty cool.

Even Hartman forgot Tootie existed and only remembered about her mid-drawing.

She's only 31st out of a 105+, I don't think the order he drew them in is of any major importance.

I say he clustered all of his best side characters together

WELL WE KNOW WHO HIS FAVORITE IS

This is such a weird show. I don't think I've ever seen anyone discuss this show being shit or good.

it just….is what it is.

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Just goes to show that FOP lacks any heart and soul. Just another Simpsons.

Vicky edition

nicee

I want to fuck baby Vicky.

She'll be doing the fucking, you'll be doing the crying.

Trixie's version

Some new titty Vicky from ber00.

See that candy cane? It implies that she's good at licking and sucking at an early age. Already a full set of teeth, too.

user, kids are good at sucking from birth. That's literally the first thing we learn after breathing

But no one does it like Vicky do.

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What would've happened if Vicky won at the end of Channel Chasers.

not FOP related but from Hartman

youtube.com/watch?v=-ZmJeBvY11c

fresh content from a halfchan Holla Forums thread, along with an upscaled version(thanks to one of the waifu2x sites), and the comic that it's a remake of

artist is Splooge for the new one, Toongrowner for the original one

Looks good

Think he's gonna color it soon?

not sure if he was intending to at all, unfortunately I don't know if he has a DA or Tumblr, otherwise I'd ask him

Bump.

Why has this thread not been purged yet?

@710070
every time

What a cutie

Logan, you let Juggernaut beat up Colossus because he wouldn't fuck Kitty Pryde, when he was 20 and she was 13.

Which makes me wander about you and Jubilee, Kitty and Angel.

counterbump

Heres an idea: report his avatarfagging rather than reply to him

I don't think you understand what avatarfagging is, tumblr.

Driving up the image limit with offtopic meta shit, mainly a set of images to identify oneself. If I went into a capeshit thread and started spamming/sagebombing with FOP images, you'd be crying avatarfag too.

Personally though, I believe you are just a 4chan janiteam member sent here as an agitator. Really makes no sense otherwise why you are targeting one of the same shows they had a hard-on for over there.

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@710368
countersage

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Every hartmanshit thread should be banned on sight.

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Vicky should enslave those two cucks into becoming her horses for her chariot.

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We certainly don't need permathreads dedicated to them.

These threads are weird… No one really likes or hates this show. It's just here.

""Adults"" should not like cartoons made for children in the first place, watch Anime or movies, whatever.

wew

yeah, notice the moment those two pictures were posted, the samefagging really picked up.


our BO needs to stop being useless as fuck.

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now colored courtesy of an user over on halfchan's /aco/ board, presented in both original sized and enlarged(once again thanks to waifu2x)

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Someone should make an edit showing Vicky's flat chest instead of her heart.

I wanted to see Vicky's panties.

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Who wins

Tootie

Hartmans first ever drawing of Vicky, Cosmo, and Wanda

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It's a shame that Butch Hartman probably can't come out and outright say it, he values friendship with people like Grey Delisle and Tara Strong too much, but you can tell he's probably one of the only staunch Republican and Trump supporters in the entire animation industry.

It's jarring, really. So many creators and industry people, like Alex Hirsch (and various GF storyboarders like the women he's fucking), Rebecca Sugar (and various SU storyboarders, like the various males fucking each other), Jhonen Vasquez, Tara Strong, Grey Delisle (must be that cuck husband of hers since she used to be massively anti-SJW), Daron Nefcy, Seth MacFarlane, Carl "It's Nickelodeon's fault my Gumball clone flopped" Greenblatt, just about all the Simpsons writers and voice actors, Matt and Trey Cucker, yes even your precious John Kricfalusi (don't forget he's a leaf), they've all revealed themselves to be MASSIVE cucks in the past few days. Some of them their entire twitter page is nothing but butthurt. It's both glorious and sickening at the same time.

Looks like Canada got the new episodes before us as usual.

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People in creative industries are usually liberal

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Drew some Trixie lewdness.

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cute

That's weird and creepy, even for Crocker.

Do you have a version with panties, or dropseat pajamas, or jeans?
That would help me stop thinking what her tuffet smells like

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To be fair to Matt and Trey, Colorado is a pretty liberal state.

shut up tommy and take my love

Been a while since I did something FOP related. Here you go, thread.

Thread thinks Chloe is hot.

Curvy adult Chloe!

Almost grown up Chloe is so adorable!

Didn't get my Chloe fix yet. Here's another one for you guys.

Thank you for the Chloe "Supermoon"

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Love this edit.

Whats the deal with FOP characters being hot when they grow up?

They want to inspire people to make more Rule 34 of the series.

One day Crocker will grow up.

And it stays that way because of kike monopolies and gateway keepers.

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But that's not who you posted…

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Last of the new stuff I have today.

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Of those only Terrible's pictures came from 4chan.

Aside from that, we don't really need any more people from that shithole coming here. The post-gamergate and post-hiro migrations already did a number on this board, which is why we have the sagefag and comic panel avatarfags.

Is this some sort of disused/personal account? Its not his official youtube channel, but seems to have a video of him I can't find anywhere else.

you don't remember the first episode where he wished he was older do you

just as a reminder

He-hey!
Lookin' good!

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thanks for the reminder satan

Are you implying that this isn't hot?

really hope TB finishes that new pic he's been working on soon

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Here's whats done so far.

Something is off with Vicky's legs; her thighs look too long and the calves too short.

Its the roundness, she's usually sharp.

I think first user is right, I thought they looked a little stubby.
Pretty easy fix.

youtube.com/watch?v=eM6ZK3XgD28

this is kind of neat.

Looks good, when is it going to be done?

Ya blew it.

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Did they ever show panties beyond this and vickie's wedgie?

None that I can recall

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I actually requested those.

Was a war the song the you know, the yen to the to go on the one in a yen to the on the menu, the real world-use one I've been of the data in there was heavy, message goes to work the whole is in the back of the ever-the bombing Sperry their fire off everything . And at the the grain the the bill because of the best L

This

Okay.

Anyone have the When Pants Attack book?

Well we're off to a promising start but we can do better.


That's Jimmy Neutron you're thinking of.

Just wondering because it's related and not on any usual piracy channel.

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So whose Jackie

How about Veronica, because that's not expected.

Missy since she has little to no personality.

Someone should do a nude edit of that.

It must be hard, as media content makers they get exposed to the media's opinions, drilled silently in the background of their thoughts even when they think they don't care, and most of those opinions come from the echo chambers in new York and California

God I wish I could banish LA and sanfransisco from california

Carly because she's curvy.

Have some sketches, thread. I don't draw Vicky nearly as much as I think I should.

Here's another nude Chloe pic for you guys

Thanks friend. That's a shame to hear since you did an amazing job with these sketches.

Grey Delisle hated SJWs? I thought she was always one of them.

Alex hirsch is probably the worst one out of the people you listed. The shit Alex does reeks of so much hypocrisy and he is just frankly a shitty person who makes fun of the handicapped if they disagree with him and acts like he is a good guy. John the canacuck is surprising since he used to shit on oversensitive people only to become one of them. Matt and Trey becoming retards and worshiping Hillary is also a low blow of retardation.

Have some pics I requested from nsfwdiner awhile ago.

Cutie

Welp.
>>>/loli/56191

youtube.com/watch?v=gBOOQE0NKj4

Hey, someone saved the image I posted over on Holla Forums, nice.

In the end I actually found both of those episodes quite good.

not so fast

this is an amazing art style


Missy deserved all the mary sue comments Chloe was getting. Though she was a plot device for what ended up being one of the few GOAT S9 episodes so I'm not complaining.

a wrench is kind of thrown into this since the show seems to be rolling with her being Catgirl after Whittle Me This and Nuts and Dangerous

How does that throw a wrench into anything? The show rolls with Timmy being Cleft, but the idea doesn't use that at all.

Oh yeah.

Well I suppose being a Mighty Mom/Dyno Dad son makes sense as a replacement hero. Especially since the lack of Jay Leno means they probably wouldn't do Crimson Chin stuff

I l

did Grey change recently?


she was always pretty cool from what i thought
hirsch is the biggest faggot on earth

Eh they'll find a way

Anything the viewers want

If Jeff Bennet could do a CC voice maybe. His Catman voice got really good in S10.

Still sucks Adam West chose to stay with Family Guy over Fairly Oddparents.

I mean, it's possible she just hates both SJWs and Trump. I'm not particularly fond of either myself.

She got married to a cuck

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3rd pic style Tootie is his best

Here's a Simon thing. It needs subtitles, like a French movie.

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I can't get into comics that are just so OoC

Yeah, I understand some people ship Vicky and Timmy but altering her personality until she's no longer Vicky from the show missed the point why the shipping happened in the first place.

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What do the numbers mean? Why aren't Vicky and Tootie eligible?


Somewhat agree. I do appreciate the hard work that probably went into these. They tell a good story, even if the characters are OOC, and are generally well planned out and put together. There does seem to be a lot of meandering in some pages though. I don't really care too much for the Timmy/Trixie or Timmy/Vicky ships anyway so I can't find myself getting too emotionally attached to these.

The numbers are votes. Vicky and Tootie were up already.
Simon drew these as people voted in a thread.

I havent seen the show after the whole tv surfing special.
Who is chloe? Is the show still good?

New main girl character in the new season whom Timmy has to share his fairies with because fairy shortage (I wish I was shitting you but I'm not). Before her they added the fairy baby Poof in S6 and the fairy dog Sparky in S9.
Nope, it went to shit after the baby was added, and it got worse with the dog, with the former either being really obnoxious or not contributing anything significant to the plot, and the latter being an annoying cunt which forced the showerunners to drop him due to negative feedback and his VA becoming a tranny. General consensus is that Chloe's addition made the show a bit better but it's still pretty bad what with Crocker being shoehorned onto every episode, many previously regular characters never appearing again, and jokes falling flat with outdated pop culture references.

Well fuck
That sounds believable or ami missing something?

In-universe, it doesn't make sense since there is a fuckton of fairies. Production-wise, it means that Butch only adds in Chloe without needing to create another main character(s) as her fairy/ies which could potentially end up worse than the dog. I have no idea how Butch picks his writers for the show that the post-baby seasons become so unbearable to watch.

Oh that's great news. Sparky never contribute anything to the show, like, at all. Even Sparky centric episode when he was given to Timmy's dad's boss is more about Timmy's dad rather than Sparky himself.


Well, fuck.

Is there more?
I need to feel

There's more. I wasn't sure anyone was interested.

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SAUCE


please…

Fuck man, another beautiful comic.
Please keep these up if there are any more, I'll be watching.

toonbabifier.deviantart.com/art/AR-ABDL-Wonder-Tot-Diapered-Duel-Cover-634588752
You have been warned

Cute

I remember Simon would have weekly drawthreads on 4/co/. Then he ended up getting banned. The 4chan mods don't cast off talent lightly, they heave it away with great force.

Yes, yes they did.
Simon wasn't the only one.

I really wanted to see GlamourKat's naughty Ruby sketches.

Too bad our drawthreads are dead

If Holla Forums can stop brawling about politic and actually start talking more about comic like what we supposed to be maybe we can attract more talented drawfags here.

Maybe if the mods did shit, then it could be possible.

The only posts I ever even see here get deleted are usually pro-Trump banter posts.

You can avatarfag, sagebomb, get into meta-arguments, spam duplicate threads, whatever, but lord forbid you talk about a politician the board volunteers didn't want winning.

If this place is run by thin-skinned lefties, what difference does it make it from Redwood's playground?

Really? There's many pro-Trump threads here awhile ago in the form of making fun of SJWs who attempt to make fun of Trump only to backfire horribly. The only threads that do get deleted that aren't spam are board-meta threads complaining about there being too many "waifu" threads (this one included) and honestly I can't blame them since in those threads there's almost no discussion of the show itself, and pics are posted one at a time ala cuckchan.
You can say nigger and post NSFW pics (with spoiler, if you don't then they'll spoiler it for you) without getting banned so that's already a huge improvement.

tweetsave.com/nickandmore/status/814230022311608321

Saw this on Manletwood/co/, they seem convinced the show is cancelled.

Yet I'm not sure if its officially ending, don't they usually announce these sort of things?

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moving to another network, but they're going to keep making episodes? is that what this is saying?

You fuckers should be glad.

More like, I've seen this same claim that it's cancelled before countless times and it turns out to be untrue. Like after the live action movies, or after seasons 8 and 9. I'd have rather this show have ended two or three seasons ago but it didn't.

It might take a year or two hiatus but then it will be announced to be returning with some shitty new character added to the cast and you all will be like "REEEEE WHY COULDN'T IT HAVE ENDED AT (arbitrary point) NICKELODEON IS DYING LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE MY VIDEO".

What would it take to kill off the annoying fanbase of this dead show

countersage

newfags pls leave
also
BITE ZA DUSTO

countersage

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I honestly think the show is fine now. Crocker and Dad are overplayed but the plots, characterization and humor has taken a massive improvement over the dog years

While S9 is undoubtedly the worst, Ive been enjoying this more than say, Season 5 or 7.


As for the sharing thing, it makes sense. Not all fairies are Godparents so the number of fairies doesnt mean anything.

The show has been cancelled 5 times, so whether or not it gets cancelled really means nothing since Nick is more autistic about whether they like it than DC fans are about the DCU

Crocker is supposed to be a wildcard character. Always appears suddenly for his typical shenanigans but not overshadowing other characters. But to be fair episodes with him and his mother actually pretty good and sweet.

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Time for a new thread soon?

Chloe and timmy straight shota lewds when?

Yep.


That's really not Chloe. We need a brave artist to try, anyway.

This is true. When people criticize Crocker and Dad in S10 they don't really understand what made them work in other seasons but fail in 9.

The problem with Dad and Crocker in S9 wasn't that every episode has them, but that every episode was ABOUT them. In the past, they were just there to appear in an episode and throw in some jokes, and that is what they are back to doing. Crocker and Dad appear a lot, but they are doing what they are supposed to.

There's way too much OoC shit in the fandom since the majority if the fan base are just retard shippers

Never did get the mentality of some FOP shippers. I mean, the few places I browse that still talk about this show, you still see people making the same argument they were making over a decade ago.
Way too much shitting on characters, delusions of grandeur over A Boy Who Would Be Queen, and none of it matters anyways because neither of the major Timmy ship characters ever appear anymore, probably as a result of all the bitching.

The show was never really about the ship, but shippers think it was the central plot of the series. So when the show drifted away from it, people lost their shit.

Timmy has a person who crushes on him, and he crushes on someone. It was a nice contrast, but that's about it. I get not liking a lot of the decisions of the newer series, but it's really obvious to tell the people who only watched and cared about shipping.

It's also what made the initial hate for Chloe so strong. Competition.

The ending of Channel Chasers is really the point of no return in terms of that.