4chan's Holla Forums wants to ban pornography. Do you agree?

Why should I care about halfchan?

fuck off

Like it or not, Holla Forums was inspired by them, as was Holla Forums, they have users, and more influence

What a shit argument.

Kill yourself, m8

Yeah, so does the MSM.

Ahh, because we all know how effective banning porn on imageboards will be.

No, and kill yourself cuckchan.

Oorn should absolutely be banned. Of course, if you ban something but don't remove the source of the desire for it, you'll only make a black market.

We should ban porn and also completely revert how sexual our culture has gotten - it's all been made by the Jews and have proof they removed the family element from society and popular culture in order to degrade the woman, and give her power over men sexually, and turn the man into a lusting machine.

Rat Utopia, Garbage Generation, etc etc

Cool. You convinced me.

fully agree

Probably, it's not like you can't get it else where. I'm bombarded with sexual images every waking hour, it's actually annoying sometimes.

Yes. Ban it. It's mostly cuck porn that is posted anyway.

So you believe banning porn will work? Or are you just being a contrarian because it's the edgy thing to do?

good. ban animu too.

you're still a pedo, and you will hang when The Day comes.

I think it was Freud who stated that all forms of advancement in human civilization are based on repressed sexual energy. People are only motivated to do stuff because it will increase their sexual value and help them get laid.

When you make sex too available, even simulated sex, it destroys this natural inspiration to not be a useless bum. You end up with a bunch of depressed NEETs who can only maintain an erection when viewing 2D trannies peeing on each other. VR porn is going to make this problem 10x worse.

Countries like China have banned it because they don't want to deal with this nonsense.

Banning it is a great idea if you want more productive people who are more likely to abide by some type of moral compass. Who will also be more likely to end up forming stable, loving families. I think we all know who doesn't want this…

dropped

Go be a kike somewhere else.

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Go be an eunuch somewhere else.

This

Anijews must burn

go kill yourself. and no, i'm not just being edgy.

You're pathetic.

Why shouldn't it be banned user?

This.

Because you're a cuck that must go to gulag

You still haven't answered my question. Do you think banning porn on Holla Forums will actually make things better?

If you want to see what that looks like, I suggest visiting wizchan.org, you'll fit in better there.

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I made it to Freud and quit reading.

I mean, I hate to be a dick, but Jesus dude. You're invoking shitty logic if Freud is used as any foundation for an argument.

Learn to ID, dipshit. You're responding to the wrong guy.

Perhaps you should go to another place so you can keep up.

Nothing should ever be banned,

All we need to do is kill all the kikes, niggers, and spics. That's all, everything else will sort itself out.

Holla Forumsitically cunttrolled was always a worksafe board.

good thing that site is exclusive to kikes, shills, SJWs, mudslimes and feds anyway, otherwise we might give a fuck.

Sorry if I assume you D&C are all the same person, as no one has actually answered my question. But please, continue to use semantics to argue.

Yes, I agree. All forms of digital information and pornagraphic material should be open to public consumption. Thank you for being a friend to supporters of legalizing child porn.

No

:^)

Based on what?

Why should pictures be illegal? Child rape should be illegal, pictures of child rape should be legal.

Yes. Ban it

I wasn't being fecesious. Sorry, poe's law and all that.

Is it strange that acceptance of morality is considered extreme here?

Oh, and that includes degenerate weeb images

Good answer.

Proved to be a dumbass? All I've proved is that your arguments are so similar I couldn't give a fuck to differentiate any of you.

epic :^) maymay proves how snide I am

Only 5 words in and you invalidated your whole text wall. Freud was a hack and a fraud and none of his shit was grounded in reality. This has been proven time and time again.

To be honest I'm not even sure if it was Freud.

Saying that people are motivated by sex isn't exactly a far fetched statement. I'm sorry to have questioned your enjoyment of the erogenous jew.

Lmao.

Lad. You're dumb as fuck.

But you haven't connected that assumption and your conclusions. Provide evidence, please

^^^ if there was any doubt libertarians are scum…

I thought it was the other way around? Didn't he think antisemitism was caused by repressed sexuality or some retarded shit like that

Who cares what 4chan does?

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To prove that you're not the same person, please give me a compelling reason other than those discussed previously in this thread. If you are unable, I will assume that you are the same person and that my lack of attention to your important sense of self was validated.

Sometimes banning something makes the thing more attractive
What needs to happen is a mass no-fap propaganda so that each individual knows the dangers of porn, what it does to the brain and how healthy people are without it.

God.. Piss off already.

I'm not a libertarian. What an offensive claim. I just believe all forms of digital information should be legal, no matter how offensive or repugnant. Pictures of girls getting rammed in the ass is illegal, but pictures of decapitated girls isn't. Isn't that some shit?

Plus, you forget that legalized CP can lead to decreased child abuse rates and can lead to vigilante groups analyzing the pictures to find clues as to who the abuser is and turn it into police. But as of right now, trying to do any sort of vigilante work like that would turn you into a criminal. Who do you think is more apt to catch criminals, the government or the people?

There's been several, but there's plenty of people who don't care. They just dismiss it as "religious nonsense".

Pornography encourages promiscuity, which desensitizes people to the primary purpose of sex the moment when the white race needs it the most if it's to survive the next century or two.

We've gone millennia without it, we'd be perfectly fine without it nowadays too.

And your argument is? Oh, you don't have anything other than ad hominems.

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Well, you could look at the image posted by the OP and see all the porn addicts complaining that they're depressed and don't want to do anything but jack off all day.

I am OP, genius. Check the ID. I'm talking about evidence, not emoptional anecdotes

Also, two periods? That's not how ellipses work.

this post however, was a better personal atttack than anything you've said ITT

No need to ban it unless it's illegal.
Just ban the faggots who spam it to derail threads.

/thread

GO BACK TO CUCKCHAN

This will never happen in practice for a long amount of time. Society will normalize that abuse.

:^)

Are you a schizophrenic?

also a better ad hominem

if you question why childporn is bad, you're lol-something.

if you think the latter is more offensive than the former, why wouldn't you argue for making both illegal, instead of making both legal?

yeah, i'm sure a lot of non-pedos want to watch lots and lots of child porn, just to look for clues.

Do you have any evidence to suggest that, or is it just your conjecture? I know Japanese abuse rates went up after they banned CP.

What an absolutely ridiculous claim. Taboo only makes things more palatable and curious. Besides, like I mentioned before, decapitated girls is legal to have on your computer. Does society normalize killing children now since gore is legal?

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Grammar / spelling errors like that are 100% of the time JIDF posters.

Porn should be banned, if not necessary to the discussion.

END.

By simply saying something is "bad" you imply that there is some standard of badness. What is this standard? Can you provide evidence of it's existence?

Now, I do support harsh punishment for pedophiles and those who distripute CP, but not for any moral reasons. Not because it is "bad". I support it because it seems to me that society tends to improve in both surivability and luxury when such things are not allowed. Also, it gives preventative measures against my own children being abused, which I support because I care for my children.

I think gore is more offensive than CP, but CP is still pretty offensive. It's just a consistency argument. If you're going to ban one, why would you leave the more offensive one legal? But I've already made the claim I believe all digital info should be legal.

What the actual fuck do you think the FBI does right now? Are you legit retarded? You mean to tell me there wouldn't be vigilante groups sprouting up like le anonymous just to try and find hints as to who the child is/who's abusing her/what the location of the CP is from? Fucking hell mate, use your brain instead of thinking with your feels.

… The context isn't banned from the chan / board but banned from the US.

Even if it were unethically legal, two never wrongs never make a right.

Drop your CP, it's not essential like food and water.

satan trips confirm

BTW, this does lead to it being illegal on 4chan

It's tough talking to low IQ niggers, but I'm willing to make that sacrifice for you.

out

stay on cuckchan

Cuckchan Holla Forums banned porn years ago. Last time I checked the rules there I'll admit this was years ago too it was still banned. The whole idea was to stop cuckspammers. Are you telling me Hiroshima un-banned porn on Holla Forums?

No, don't ban it, tax it and make it extremely hard to circulate pornos without approval.

Nothing is essential except food and water. Should we make everything illegal that isn't food and water?

Maybe a change of focus is necessary?
Are there any good scientific research about porn, addiction and other factors that we can shill? People always fluctuate to science like a new god or something.

Ad hominems are bad, that doesn't mean I can't be better with them than you and still be smarter. Those aren't mutually exclusive. but then again, you wouldn't know that because of your IQ, right??? :^)

Have you posted a counter-claim yet? Or are you hoping that arguing with me is going to change the board rules?

It's a red board. I thought porn was okay on there

4chan.org/rules#pol
Holy shit you're a dumbass.

Hey man, I only thought that because of the porn that is always posted on there. No need to be so rude

This is more of a Holla Forumsmeta issue. But yes, porn is a "problem". I love porn myself, but there's a time and place for it. And Holla Forums is not it. Go to Holla Forums or other dedicated boards. No. It's shouldn't be "banned" outright. But if you're going to post porn, what context are you doing it under?

They're not talking abou banning it on the board or site. Read the OP in the pic

There is when you're too retarded even for cuckchan. You always read the rules before you post somewhere.

fuck that shit. normal people have a strong visceral reaction to pedophelia, and that's good enough for me. "philosophers" can try to spin anything, but as nietzsche said, instinct is king (tho maybe not in those exact words).

they do it because it's their job, you legit retard. nobody in their right mind is going to do that shit voluntarily.

I don't post on halfchan Holla Forums

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Day 24 of no fap reporting in. I'm aiming for 30 days at least, but secretly inside im curious how will I be at 90 days.

You are great example of what the "hide" function is for. If everyone did that not only would this thread not exist, but all differing opinions would be silenced.

I have no issues with porn consisting of adults conforming to are current standing of "adult", being 18 years of age or older.
I will never support lowering this age.
I would support raising the age to 21 to participate in pornography.
I will never support lowering the age of consent "be it sexual intercourse, pornography, other sexual related activity's or other misc items/acts/operations, stated or not stated here in, relating to a persons sexuality"
I will never support a changing of are current definition of "adult" to anything other then a "years lived" to prevent "well subject X Muh Fee Fees there 23 in a 12 y/o body" or "subject Y Muh Fee Fees there a 12 y/o in a 40 y/o body" horse shit jew rule bender.
Any one who says pictures depicting children is "art" is a kike puppet simply looking for shekels from (((Soros))) at children's (There's, others) expense.
Muh Fee Fees are not an excuse to allow children, who can not enter a legally binding contract in America, to be used as tools/toys/props/extras/misc/ect in anything, be it "art" or otherwise.

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One more feather in the Femaoist cap.

I'm pretty sure banning porn is a fast way to get a civil war.

Isn't that that lolbertardian kikess?

Nofap is pretty retarded.

But porn, apart from becoming an addiction, which is irrelevant to me, also molds your mind in the long term into accepting the most degenerate shit as "normal". And that is the main issue I see with it.
People start watching normal porn and will progressively and almost without fail, throughout the years, end up watching midget nigger shemales with horses.
And all while that is happening… [pic related].

Porn is Jewish poison. Into the fire among with other degenerate media it goes.

You're point? We should follow our basic instincts? Such as, say, cannibalism, widely practiced in prehistoric tribes?

yes, i am point.

yes.

cannibalism is a social construct.

pretty pointless to ban it considering people will just go and get it regardless. Pornographic images have been around for thousands of years, pretty much for as long as people have yanked their crank.

if a persons mind could be poisoned by porn so easily then they weren't exactly prime cuts to begin with. Its an unenforceable ban that accomplishes nothing in order to solve a problem that doesn't really exist. Based on search results, the vast majority of people look at regular porn and only look at lesbian porn when they want to feel deviant. Image board tastes are not indicative of general tastes.

who is? if you hadn't noticed, western civilization is pretty poz'd.

I apologize that I am not as well versed as some upon the eating of flesh, but I thought there was major health concerns with the consumption of human flesh, be it cooked or otherwise.

political spectrum isn't the same as physical and mental appeal.

90 percent of people listen to whatever they're told, 10 percent make their own opinions and tell the other 90 percent how to act. Its only pozzed because of the people in control. The average person rarely holds any solid political opinion, they just go with the flow for the vast majority of their lives. They only ever settle down when they're old and realize they fucked up.

It seems from the cuckchan thread that they want to ban porn as a governmental decency thing, not ban pornography from the board itself. Of course, since 4chan servers are stateside it would be banned prima Fascie.

Porn on 8ch wouldn't be banned, though I wouldn't mind it. Either we go full morality and ban all porn or we ban none of it, not just pizza.

do you know why CP is banned?

because a young child isn't old enough to grasp consent. Kids say and do very stupid things, they touch hot stoves and play with things they shouldn't. Those are just temporary pains, child pornography on the other hand is a mistake that lasts their whole lives and really fucks them up. Besides that, the vast majority of children in kiddie porn never even agreed on a superficial level, they were just forced into it by crappy parents or they were homeless. Its shitty but that's the rules of nature.

That's why its banned, its the same reason hard drugs were banned.

This is a non-issue on 8/pol/, most people here anyway aren't so degenerate to post indecent porn anyway. That usually happens due to a raid, which is liable to banning from the outset. Banning porn should be reserved to a time when this board really has fallen off the deep end.

Shlomo please.

Addiction to porn?
GTFO LMFAO
I've been watching cam whore for years and I haven't fapped in over a month.
I have been getting laid but if I was addicted I'd be watching that shit right now.
Now nicotine,that's an addiction.
If you think you're addicted to porn,you just like jacking off too much.

Except "adult" porn takes advantage of downtrodden females who probably came from a broken home in our modern Weimar, so these would-be housewives were also given no choice. Their whole life was ass-to-mouthed by the erosion of every social more that would have guided them towards a happy life, but I'm to assume that these people chose to do porn of their own volition.

Have you seen pornstars? They seem like nothing but connective tissue with every ounce of vitality vacuumed out of their body due to the interminable length of cock they've received. Nah son, women are mental infants which makes every porn scene akin to masturbating to a train wreck.

It used to be illegal to wear two piece bathing suits, which makes all the white muh dik niggers in our society cringe, but, you know what? They had families and social cohesion.

Ban western porn, which is jewish. JAV is ok, same with hentai.

LOL I am in this screencap.

I'm the guy who said he started 8 months ago and I felt like I was asleep my whole life.

Neat, fuck porn.

Oh. I have no clue what we should do honestly. It seems like most anons in that image agrees that nofap is the way to go. Making porn illegal doesn't make sense since it will cause more problems than solve. Black markets, more crime, etc.. Learn from prohibition and the current war on drugs. Just like communism, "waging war" just doesn't work. It never will.Just learn some self control.

sage

banning things in such a way doesn't work, just makes a black market for whatever it is. drugs, cp, weapons, media, etc.

need to change how society sees it as a whole, and the rate the whole world is going I don't see that happening within a reasonable time frame.

don't have much of an issue with nude images, gotta keep the beauty flowing.

Promote online no fap boot camps honestly.

I'm in day 23 and no one forced me legally to do so.

You can't ban "indecency", at best you can just make it seem weird in public.

>yes anti-semites, us the jews are behind western porn, but you can still watch jap porn goys guys. sitting around and stroking your dick, while watching cartoons of little girls being raped by tentacles is perfectly normal and healthy behavior.

Well as much as you hate kikes unless you were forced at gunpoint to fap to porn or die in this matter white people are also at fault.

Do no faps or die as a creep. Your choice.

This, don't fall into the leftist trap of thinking that you can legislate social change, you have to start with individuals.

I can go anywhere for porn. I can only come here for Holla Forums.

Keep porn off Holla Forums

That not what this is about user. This is about whether or not porn should be legal or not.

pretty much. I need to start doing that, fapping so much kills any motivation I have.

most JAVs are fucking terrible like any other porn and only a small amount are that tier of weird shit.
the odd stuff with girls just in different outfits and angles is more pleasing than any other 3DPD shit coming out of nipland

t. degenerate

Why not. It could serve as a model/experiment

**using their Holla Forums of course

Fucking normalfags can't stop beating a dead octopus

You'd never see something like this in western porn

Your post was decent, but you had to fuck it up with a kike at the start. You should know better than trying that here.

But, technically, his theory his theory does make some sense, and you can see how he used it as a weapon against gentiles.

I.E., Instead of being bestial all the time, you harness that sexual energy for greater things. But in his case, he portrayed it as a form of oppression that should be undone - thus wrecking havoc on European foundations.

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In a sane society, user, pedos would simply be killed outright, not lessening their reach on actual children by letting them have CP.

Confirmed for zero experience hentai virgin.

Good for you, user. Just did 30 (all June) myself.

Pornography IS a problem, but it is only a symptom of the larger problem. Even if you made it illegal, the underlying problems that lead to its (prior) use would still remain.

you sure shamed me. :^(

Alright then. Why "should" we follow these instincts?

Also, pedophilia isn't a naturally repulsive thing. It's natural to have sex with a member of the opposite sex as soon as they are able to reproduce

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child-on-child_sexual_abuse

Yeah I managed to go almost 8 months before I broke when I had my first set of college finals. I felt amazing and had more energy then I did before I started it. But a long time after that I could only handle two day intervals. I managed to get up to 5 day intervals now. My goal is a week because that is when your gains are maximized
I hate the Nofap community but you can't deny some of the benefits. Even if you don't believe in the extra energy or that porn is n addiction, there is still benefits. If you don't fap then you can invest that time you would be looking at porn into something more productive or watch some more Mongolian calligraphy. Your choice

Pedophilia would imply they are NOT able to reproduce as they are still children & pre-pubescent.

At least something closer to pic related, user.
(image SFW)

I tried no-fap for about 2 weeks, then my testicles were in constant pain, and eventually my body emptied some of my excess semen into my piss to take the pressure off. It was so weird and uncomfortable that I haven't tried again since. I seem to be the only one with this problem. I'm not opposed to the idea, it just didn't go well for me.

go read you some nietzsche.

that's not pedophilia.

That's one big load of gynocentric bullshit that you fat neets tell yourselves to justify your worship of whores that you mentally construe as pure.
Excessive testosterone only turns you into a thirsty gynocentric beta who live under 30 layers of rationalizations.
Confident males who always had daily access to sex know that most women are whores like most niggers are chimps etcetera, and glorifying them only hurts you.

Licentious woodcuts were all the rage in the middle ages, the Greeks erected statues of Hermes with massive erect penises, and the Romans had revelries where young men ran around naked and bawdy (as well as their own versions of the aforementioned Hellenic statues).

That's not even touching on brothels or prostitution.

One of the fastest ways to invalidate your own authority is to give a command that won't be obeyed. You might as well propose banning liquor and vaudeville while you're at it.

If we ban porn than we'll have to fix women.

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I don't completely disagree, but I counter with the following: without a stream of legitimate income the expansion of pornography is contained. Are there enough porn clips for you to jerk off for all eternity? Sure. But are there enough pictures of your weird ass fetish that will keep you sustained forever? No there aren't. Currently the only way to get said fucked up shit is to pay someone to make it for you. If it's illegal, then you can't as easily find an artist to do it for you, and thus your addiction material becomes limited.

Pornographers should be jailed, and their filthy smut put to the torch.

BURN IT.

Unless you're proposing to invest heavily in an Orwellian surveillance system dedicated to limiting porn, people will invest in it. Heavily.

It's hugely profitable, requires little expertise to make, can be made quickly, always has a growing market, and has a near infinite number of niche fetishes to fulfill. Banning pornography will just lead to it returning underground as well as igniting riots on the internet and massively increasing corruption among politicians and lawkeepers.

The end result is like Prohibition, only worse and with even more corruption at all levels.

if I had to guess the vast majority of revenue from porn is ads
streaming site, ads. download from a torrent? video's watermarked + txt/html file links. camwhores? their shit is shared for free if you take a few mins to look it up. even if you did ban X porn in a country they'll just swap hosts. suddenly niggertrannyvagfarts.cuk is in sweden, out of the way of your legislation.

limiting it will not work, hell even young teens sext each other with their phones even if it's illegal and in some cases cp transfer. it's easier than ever to share your dickings with the world.

does anyone have the cap of a britbong putting a knife/fork up his ass in protest of the "extreme content" ban or whatever the fuck it was called in the UK? cause that's about how effective banning porn will be, right next to ausfags small cup size regulations.

Except pornography is entirely built on legitimate money sharing services like Patreon, PayPal and Kickstarter. Once it becomes illegal these money services will police themselves out of fear of a government crackdown. No need for an Orwellian police state needed. If pornographers find a different means of transferring money, then the government will shut it down, like The Silk Road.

You don't understand. I'm not proposing to ban all pornography from existing, I'm banning the production of new pornography.

Except there is constantly more demand than supply, hence why it is so profitable. The moment you throw any legal issues into the mix, and the number of interested artists will plummet considerably.

Your problem is that you think I need to succeed universally to get what I want. The moment you throw legal hurdles or technical hurdles into the mix, is the moment 95% of the population disengages because it's too much of a hassle. I don't need every sext and cam site removed from the net, I just need to make it harder to access. Sure, there will be smart people who skirt the law, but they will always be an underfunded minority. Majority compliance is enough to get what Holla Forums wants in this case.

Same thing, in the end.

I point, once again, to prohibition. This is a physical, consumable good. It's heavy, takes time and craft to manufacture, and has to be physically transported across county and frequently state lines.

Despite all the costs involved, as well as the risks, bootleggers were rampant throughout the 20s. I mean, the Kennedy's built their fortune on illegal hooch. Compared to that, propagating pornography is laughably simple. And what are you going to do? Clap every curious kid and teenager in chains? Handcuff upstanding taxpaying citizens? Cart off political figures?

People will look at and create porn and nothing you do short of literal mind control will stop them. Humanity has been making materials to masturbate to since we were painting on cave walls and bashing rocks together.

All pornography is banned in my country, but I am here.
In short, it is and always will be logistically impossible to ban porn.
There is even porn on Youtube nowadays, Serbian Film, etc.
I am still for the porn ban here though as all it does is ban the popular porn sited, so kids will almost never stumble on to them.

It's OK it''s not hurting anybody it's just bits of data ;^)

why should we care about cuckchan?
And Porn should be banned, it's immoral.

it's the best contraceptive around. it also lowers the rate of actual sexual criminality.
beat it like it owes you money until you find a girl you actually like.

Containment is better than prohibition.

The more that common culture and the public, open, popular Internet are associated with pornography and degeneracy the easier it will be for an alternative to emerge.

Once we have an alternative, it's simply a matter of building our base and eventually flipping the script to where the open, popular culture/internet are ghettoized and whatever happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

Then, we'll have what amounts to pressure-release valves in the form of physical locations (a vegas within an hour of every person) and virtual locations (the popular internet).

seems like shame and guilt are more powerful motivators than piety or purity.

People who want ban porn tend to be megadegenerates who see banning porn as a way to purge their own guilt shame and disgust about themselves.

I wouldn't outright ban it, but I would definitely suppress it into a few niches. First problem is that pornography is everywhere, everything is hyper sexualized. I'd stop showing too provocative movies in mainstream and cheap cinemas. I'd tone down commercials and ads.

Regarding pornography, I'd rule that sex shops have to pay higher taxes, essentially making most of them non viable, so only one or two per a big city are left. Then I'd rule that they can't exist within a certain radius from a city center. Thus, it'd be pushed into the fringe and only degenerates left would be those that have to try to get access to the content. This will alienate a lot of casuals and groups left will be closely knit and private instead of widespread and casual.

Regarding internet, two problems arise. How do you cut off pornography from the vast majority of people and how do you stop them from buying degenerate content from other countries online. I'm not sure I have an answer to these two yet.

Ban it, fucking Nigger op

YES NOW FUCK OFF

I don't know that it should be outright illegal, but I am disturbed by how mainstream it is. Ron Jeremy, Jenna Jameson and Sasha Grey are well known in the general public, and honestly, I think that's a bad sign.

My little sister had a friend spend the night once, and during the night this girl was looking up porn on her tablet. She was 10 years old.

My own view is that it should be something kept quiet and hidden away, like it was in the past before the Internet and hyper-Judaization of the culture.

This. Threads with content considered as 'porn' are by their nature contained in and of themselves. It usually needs a thread named e.g. 'the psychology of tits and ass' for porn to show up.

And cuck threads are banned fast.

So I dont' understand the deal with all the talk about banning porn all of a sudden. We have much bigger problems to deal with.