60 million years of evolution

the future never looked so bright

Our lives have amalgamated to this; it is our destiny - the future is now.

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I swear, evolutionists put more faith in the theory than any christian puts in god.

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b-but sky-fairy!!

yeah it is. we can see it in animals with very short lifetimes

You can see microbes and fruit flies develop mutations that are harmful and end up killing the animal. You don't see an animal becoming another animal after having successful mutations.

it does prove that animals have mutations over time. So it is reasonable that given enough time some mutations would come up that would be a benefit to the animals that have them, and thus these animals would go on to make more animals that have mutation, thus these animals aren't the same as the animals that they started out as.

Excuse me? I don't fap to drawings. I just horde thousands of animu drawings in my computer like the deranged loser I am….

Not that user, but The Bible never talked against changes, you can even notice how humans changed over time, even their lifespan.

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shhh, christians don't like logic

God gets bored, creates hot gas. It swirls and shit, but eventually it gets old.
So he decides to squeeze it real hard and see what happens. Nothing really happens 'cause it's gas and just leaks away between fingers and shit. God is disappointed and slightly annoyed and makes gas compress into rocks instead. Rocks fly around and smash into each other, for a while it's fun but eventually also gets old.
Now God decides to squeeze rocks real hard and see what happens. They just break, leak sand everywhere and are generally unfun. So he decides to make them turn to something like gas but not really gas because it would be boring again.
And so on.

If you're such an expert then why don't you tell the board what Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium is.

I believe in evolution but not Darwinism and I most certainly am not into any kind of Christian Creationist nonsense.

I see people posting on these boards for decade now spouting off darwinist stuff. This is because most of you are taught about Natural Selection in school but fail to receive a proper, more up-to-date teachings on evolution, that you would get if you studied biology more seriously on your own or perhaps in a university (but university's are jokes now, so who knows).

Evolution is deterministic, non-random, chaotic, purposeful, guided, intelligent, etc.

Teleology does have its place in evolution.

Most people talking about evolution talk about natural selection only, aka darwinist view which is incomplete, and then there's people insulting "science" in general aka the Christians reacting to this stupidity by being even more stupid.

tl;dr I'm too intelligent for Holla Forums and you're all spouting a bunch of horseshit at each other, just strawmans vs strawmans.

welcome to every debate ever

Expanding on this:

The idea that evolution is "random", the product of "blind forces" and "chance", and that there is no intelligent guidance or higher order that takes its part in evolution is wrong. This does not mean muh Christian sky-daddy is enacting the arbitrary decree or "divine fiat" or anything like that. Rather, life is an intelligent force that purposely evolves to conform with archetypal forces, and to adapt very fast to new challenges sometimes before those challenges even become manifest in the Earth sphere.

Anyone who has studied this subject will understand that this has to be so for a variety of reasons. I have the specific arguments in my books but I'll tell you one of them; life adapts way too fucking fast then what pure random mutations would have be the case. Bacteria adapts very fast and also higher organisms that don't reproduce much adapt even faster.

Some other cool facts: viruses play a huge role in evolution (a lot of our DNA is actually all from viruses), sexual selection plays a big role too, bacteria in our own bodies play a role in our evolution, and desire / the emotion life of higher beings changes their genetics too (and I'm not talking just epigenetics btw).

Another intelligent argument concerning this has to do with cybernetics and how a controller must be faster than the system it controls. I'm not going to go get out my book right now though to properly explain this for you guys.

Some recommended books:

1. Colin Wilson - The Occult
2. Leon Marvell, Ph.D. - The Physics of Transfigured Light, The Imaginal Realm and the Hermetic Foundations of Science

Read up on these and you'll reach a new level of woke that transcends Holla Forums's current mental limits.

Natural selection has its part in evolution but isn't the full picture.

One more random fact: different species evolve at different rates, some are "evolutionary fossils" and experience barely any mutations and remain much the same of hundreds of millions of years, others mutate much quicker.

I guess if people here were more educated we wouldn't have "debates", we'd have "lectures" or "discourses", aka we'd be learning shit from each other and correcting one another instead of slinging bullshit against bullshit.

Clarification, by this I mean have long generational times, not say few offspring. So like… decades might elapse before the organism produces the next generation.

Animals mutate but the process of mutation is intelligent, guided, and not random. Animals are observed to adapt faster than the darwinism of natural selection + "random mutation" allows for.

People in general don't like logic.

Some have replaced the dogmas of Christianity with the dogmas of fedoraism.

How many people make a serious study of philosophy (including epistemology, metaphysics, theology, etc.)?

If you can into philosophy you are the 1% and a truly intelligent ubermensch.

The working mass man doesn't have time to think, he lets his marxist teachers or his priest do that for him.

it is random, it can go faster or shower depending on luck, and need

user, gas and matter aka substance in general is an accumulation of mental substance within the mind of god and this whole universe is animated by living force. Mankind is the product of the "will to life", so to speak. The world was never dead and you must understand something important here; god is beyond time itself. Your narrative contains a beginning and an end, and strangely enough is in line with certain Christian dogmas that were en-vogue from the 1700s that have unconsciously influenced your thinking today. God is something so much more amazing than the bored and all-too-human-like god you describe. It is also important to know that God does not do what God is not needed for; he assigns that to his lesser creations. While god is certainly the ultimate cause, there is a causal chain leading from his absolute being, into the manifest world you know and understand. The Earth sphere is governed by a sort of demiurge and so you may as well talk, for the sake of your post, about this demiurge. Then again, the demiurge IS practically blind and systematic; so really "governor" isn't right title for it. There are some other intelligences that govern the Earth-sphere. Then there is also a planetary intelligence too which we are part of. It's complicated… but all true.

Ontological randomness does not exist, has not been proven to exist, and there are no philosophers today that seriously advocate for it. What you are claiming has implications for causality, determinism, and more. Mutation is governed by intelligent processes. The fact of negative mutations happen doesn't negate this, it might seem to at first sight, but it has to do with a certain clash of forces. Whatever you think is random, you are looking at it with myopic eyes, and failing to see forces, orderings, etc. on a greater scale that take part in the process. There is no such thing as "luck" or "chance". There is such a thing as need however. When you say it goes "faster or slower" depending on need, do you appreciate the full significance of your statement? When a "need" (or even a want) arises within the mentality of an organism, that organism is brought into conformance with the archetypal force working on, and it begins to manifest that form. The imperfect and mixed combinations and general "chaos" of evolution is btw the conflict of multiple archetypal forces.

We can actually. It happened to moths after the industrial revolution and to some mice that have been geographically separated for a period of time. I'm sure there's plenty of other examples you could look up like antibiotic resistance but you'd rather blow your pastor behind a Wendy's. How did you go your whole life being so stupid?

Philosophy is one of the truly fun fields, its a shame there are no career applications for it besides becoming a teacher.

need as in you need a trait to survive, and if you don't have you die and don't reproduce. you are in need of that trait, thus need does play a part in evolution, but it is like trying random combinations until you get it right, and the greater need, the faster it goes, as what is killing you is doing more efficiently, and thus natural selection is greater and doing a better job in culling the undesirables.

and luck as hypothetical. If an insect population has a few members among them that have pesticide resistance genes, and humans use pesticides to kill all the other members that population, leaving only the ones that have the resistance genes, then I would consider those particular insects lucky.

It enhances your whole life.

People should study philosophy in their free time or if they live somewhere university is free then they can do that too.

Definitely don't pay for it though. Everything you need to study philosophy is online or in libraries and only sometimes will you ever need to order some rare books.

Mental need / wanting plays a huge part in evolution.

Also,

Memorize that.

You don't need to describe natural selection to me. I know how it works. I also know that the current theory of evolution we have didn't stop in the time of Darwin and rather has become far more elaborate than what you're describing. What you are describing is like a generalization, a dumbing-down, which creates falsehoods in the process.

Natural selection does cull the unfit and does exert evolutionary pressures but the probabilistic way it is described is not how evolution works. Evolution is a more intelligent process, species adapt faster than what random chance would allow, they are somehow able to guide their own evolution intelligently. There is also an intelligence that balances every lifeform in an ecosystem, there is a good reason we don't all die one day because suddenly a bunch of microbes get out of control and change out atmosphere and kill off pretty much everything, or a thousand other catastrophes don't happen. There is a greater intelligence that keeps all of life on Earth in balance, there is a kind of cooperation between all species.

Anyone who only knows about natural selection, does not have the full picture of what is happening during the process of evolution.

duckduckgo.com/?q=involution precedes evolution

castellinotraining.com/special/2011-03-23-Polarity/InvolutionEvolution.pdf

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involution_(esoterism)

When all of imageboards users know what is "involution" we will achieve a higher class of discussion or at least a far more abstracted form of shitposting then the crude shitposting that is done on these topics so far.

Don't tell me this doesn't turn you on

I can't ever be turned on by a woman with another man's cum on her. Anytime some other man cums on her or even if it's a depiction of one covered in cum, I am disgusted and have to go find something else to fap to.

is that right? I want be a omnipotent god, so until that shit happens I am going disregard everything you say up until this point.

that's great. I am here for 2D porn, not your believes, thanks

you could consider it your cum

Listen you, you're clearly not understanding the very nuanced philosophical claims I am making for you, so just read Dynamic Thought by William Walker Atkinson and disregard what he says about gravity and come back to me when you're able to comprehend a bit better what the hell I'm talking about. Read the other two books I also mentioned earlier.

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Exactly mate. I love this pic

what are those circle bits of dna that are in bacteria called that protect from antibiotics? Do you know? I had a question about it on a test not too long ago but I forgot the name.

It'll probably turn up eventually. I myself have been reading about absurdity lately, since life's apparent meaninglessness and my own innate misery have left me feeling like shit.

More like devolution!!!

I am christian, check your logic, btw, what you call christianity is an offshot of american protestantism post WWII trying to made christians worship talmudists and a cheap hegelian talk between autists and christians.

Btw, evolution isnt real, just change, some jellyfishs are immortal, water bears use anything at their hands to repait their dnas, etc.

Plasmids, btw, water bears can use them too.

Oh yeah, thank you.

I'm just shitposting. There are some very intelligent Christians, even protestants I'd imagine, just as there are stupid atheists. Almost no one group possesses a quality universally unless it is the quality that defines the group.

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jokes on you I have seeded my genes into a hybrid ayylmao that is traveling the galaxies as we speak and flying ufos.

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And christianity ban people to worship talmudists, therefore american protestants arent christians.