Prostitution and how to argue against it

At that point I had an urge to say it is degenerate and makes a mockery of sex and intimacy but I didn't quite know how to put it in a way that wouldn't lead to unproductive bickering so I refrained from doing so.

Legalizing and glorifying prostitution is another step in the slippery slope to degeneracy, how would you argue against it?

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Women have always charged money and services for sex. Its just most women have the common sense to sell sex for a house, kids, and a solid provider.

Men miss out too, because they get only half the package. They get the illusion of physical intimacy and none of the benefit of being a provider gives the male ego.

The entire transaction cheapens an important life experience.

Least thats how I would go about it.

i dated a stripper for a couple years before becoming red-pilled, and there is a massive side effect. it destroys a woman's ability to become aroused naturally, there's simply no way to have an intimate relationship with a whore. legitimizing prostitution and sluts has nothing to do with women's rights, it's the jewish-owned media attempting to ruin our families.

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Pull the reverse femenism on them

if you can't tell your future life partner or children what you used to do, and plan to have a life partner and children, then why do it?

Most western women are just casual 3rd wavers anyways, I bet at least 2/3 of them aren't even aware of the "waves" at all.

There is a lot of cases of legbeards vs. fishmongers eating themselves over this issue.

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The probability of marital stability (1-the probability of divorce) is inversely proportional to the number of previous sexual partners. At zero, there's about a 20% chance of divorce; at 1, about 50%, at 5, about 30%, at 20+ it drops down to below 20%.

For their own good, women should be encouraged to marry their first sexual partner.

Prostitution is human slavery, plain and simple. It a jewish degeneracy pushed on Christian society. Behind the glamour is pain.

Here OP. Read this

Legalizing and glorifying slavery is another step in the slippery slope
Despite slavery having been legal for thousands of years and just recently banned in the west in the last 150 years.

oldest profession in the world. incurable.

Easily curable…

Even USSR had prostitution, despite their death squads. Post Fuhrer Germany aswell. Killing crypto-dissidents will only create martyrs that come haunting you for decades.

The USSR was run by jews, dipshit.

Point is, not even death squads stop it.

Because prostitution is basically the creation of a caste where broken women who couldn't limit their partners end up naturally in.

Even anti prostitution folk admit this. Except they believe people can be tamed, while there will always be crazy rebels against any authoritarian system.

See Bezmenov, he escaped all kind of death risks for defection.

Wanna get laid? Improve youself! Women WANT you to fuck them!
Women want to pair bond with you! Its what humans have been doing for 250,000 years, why are you fighting it?

Hookers are the easy way out, there's no intimacy, there's nothing to learn from it. You are still a fat ugly sack of shit and you still hate yourself because of it.
Improve your body, your mind and the world will beat a path to your door! DON'T FIGHT THE GAME PLAY THE GAME! The game of love is the best thing ever, men have gone to war over love, because its fucking worth it!

women are so broken at this point that the differentiation in whore behaviour and profissional whore gets confused.

there is the alimony schemer that is considered "respectable women" but less and less with time, and full time whore.

When your whole lifestyle revolves around fucking, you lessen yourself as a person.
And if your whole personality is reduced to your sexual prowess, don't be surprised when other people don't care for your other pathetic qualities.

I feel repulsed by pornstars and prostitutes. Why should I suppress my feelings for the sake of hers?

Her fucking degenerate lifestyle makes me disgusted and I'm not gonna accept, normalize or even condone such behavior in hopes of preventing further morons following the same path as hers.
And the best way of preventing further degeneracy is to show my dissatisfaction and disapproval of such behavior.

That's how many subconsciously rationalize or have learnt to simply react in such manner.

That is a retarded thing to say and you are a retarded person for saying it.

You want to rescue "slaves" by arresting them and throwing them in prison. Why don't we "rescue" you, user? For your own good.

Exactly. Read Mein Kampf; Hitler does a very good job of explaining how rampant prostitution and sexualization is a result of poor education, and stagnant and corrupt economics. Prostitution is not incurable, it is just the result of a myriad of circumstances.

Also have to add that reducing sex just to the physical pleasure is extremely unhealthy.

If it doesn't evolve some form of spiritual bonding between you and SO, then it will ultimately leave you with a hollow feeling; Never fully satisfying you.

Some women will be whores no matter how strong force you put on them.

Weimar Republic prostitution was because world bankers wanted to kill germany, not because of social or moral issues. Even Keynes understood this.

Thing is, as time passes, differentiation between husbands who want a wife who won't fuck other men while he is away and husbands who don't care will happen.

Those who don't marry the woman willing to cuck them will aggregate at a macro level a new caste of unmarriable woman because of their behaviour.
Those will be the future prostitutes. It's a cycle.

Spoken like a true serial killer.
Calling all women whores because you can't get a boner.

well, thanks for consenting you agree despite with butthurt

Those are some very strong accusation. Especially for someone who doesn't understand the difference between "women as a group" and "all women" as you so aptly twisted his words for him.

I never said that. You must always go after the slavemasters.

pretty good read actually. I like it

I'm not sure you can argue those points with them. They have no respect for the natural order. Your idealized world is one in which people are good and decent to eachother, mate for life, and care for their children. The idealized world of most normies is one where they get to drink and fuck at any time they want. It's a selfish existence. Prostitutes benefits them, and if they wanted to be a prostitute they want to be able to be one. They don't care about the effect on society as a whole, nor do they think about how they'll feel the day they find out their daughter is looking into fucking niggers for money as a career.

I'm in an LTR with a woman, she's not the prettiest, granted I'm not either. She's far from a whore I'm her only 2nd sex partner, I myself have only had 4 sex partners previously.
Sex is awesome, intimacy is awesome. There's just no way to duplicate such a thing with a hooker…that inherent level of trust.
Maybe one day you will understand what I mean.
BTW I've never been with a hooker, ever. No need I've always sought intimacy with a woman, not sex. Sex is the whipped cream, chocolate syrup, nuts and cherry on the ice cream of a relationship…and it just happens to also be your favorite flavour.

I agree that "some women will be whores regardless". In a way, that is a woman's biological role. In exchange for sex and children, a woman gains a safe and peaceful life in which her husband goes forth to fight battles in distant lands whilst she sits idly with pleasant company seeking fulfillment. This is a type of contract between the sexes: women offer what services they may at home, including sex which is such a biological imperative to men, and other small duties which ease the burden on a man. In exchange, the man offers a women material stability and safety, something she herself is less capable of achieving as an individual.

I disagree with almost everything else. Husbands always care what their wives with regards to relationships as marriage, or any relationship, is a type of contract. This cuckoldry, or nonchalant attitude towards the contract of intimacy, that you are stating as part of a cycle is not inherent, but a symptom of the same issues which lead towards prostitution in the first place and these, I believe, may be dealt with.

This post is more or less a good resume of what I tried to transmit

tendency for husbands to pick women less likely to cuck them while they are away fighting is what in long cyclical term causes prostitution.
after enough time, social class has been filtered and everyone knows who is loose or not. Why do you think most promiscuity happens in big cities?

Even with people not knowing, in materialistic age and not only some women get addicted to the rush of seduction and sex, and the material reward after. Those also end up in said prostitute class.

Beta bux.

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Male prostitution was a thing in the camps?

You're just an edgy kid browsing Holla Forums so that you feel 'different' aren't you?

Many women from north europe go to south europe to have sex tourism. They pay male prostitutes.

unrelated to your question, but wanted to add.

Then you aren't saying anything. Stop wasting our time.


Are you one of those feminists that wants to only throw johns in prison? You are worse than I thought.

I stopped reading that point right there. Anyone who thinks a drug that was used by ancient aryans (and also those who hypocritically believe alcohol is more acceptable) makes you stupid is just uninformed or doesn't realize that correlation does not equal causation. I'm not saying alcohol is bad either, there is just no ground to stand on if you believe in using one but not the other. Alcoholism kills, cannabis is nature's painkiller.

Tell if she really thinks that than she supports cuckoldry and the exploitation of men. Say it in a righteous indignatious manner and paint her as the villain and yourself as the victim. That's how you win against leftists.Always go on offense never play defense.

People are autonomous being with their own needs and desires.

The cunt had the freedom to engage in her degeneracy. Other people have the freedom to ostracize her from THEIR social group, and to pass JUDGEMENT based on THEIR values and beliefs.

Nobody owes this cunt whore ANYTHING.

Its not "UNFAIR".

I was not put on this earth to make other people haaaappppy or to accept and celebrate gays/faggots/niggers and furries.

I will TOLERATE them because that is the humane thing to do, and I would expect the same from them. We all owe each other tolerance because we live in civilized society.

TOLERANCE =/= Acceptance or Approval.

Lefties will never understand basic concepts or logic.

What an unbelievably stupid cunt.

Where was her father? Hmm?
Was her father saying, "Yes Bree, go be a porn star"? Or was he saying, "No, please no! Don't do porn".
More likely he didn't know until one day she buys herself a BMW and moves out of the family home.
Dad: "Where did you get the money for all that?"
Bree: "Umm, I got a job".
Dad: "What kind of a job?"
Bree: "Tee hee"

Fucking hell this stupid cunt. She's not respected because what she does isn't an accomplishment. She took her average looks, caked on some makeup, bleached her hair, got her nails done, fake n bake, etc. then went out and spread her legs on camera. No effort. No accomplishment. No respect.

Maybe, if she was out fucking retards, gimps, paraplegics, fat guys, and any other 'true forced loneliness' types I might have a modicum of respect for her, as she would be providing a service to people who might actually benefit from getting laid. But as it is, she's out fucking Chads on camera, then going home to snort coke and whatever other degeneracy she partakes in.

There is nothing stopping her from going into the medical field. Go study up. Pass those tests, Put in the years if not decades required - and pass the tests required to get that RN or MD. But she won't. She's a pussy and has no resolve or tenacity. She wants the fast easy money, and she'll never be able to handle the pressures and demands of respectable employment.

Crying on camera is pathetic and disgusting. What does she think is going to happen - we're all just going to change our minds and think what a great job she did and she's totally normal and not tainted and has a bunch of STD/Herpes/AIDS? That's how fucking stupid she is. She should be glad that there was a job where all she had to do was spread her legs and get paid. She makes in a year what most people won't make in 15. And those people have to do real work, day in and day out. They don't have the option of going back to a $20k/week gig anytime they want.

I hope she dies of AIDS

Tell him to marry her.

This honestly is the right response. Forget what I said.

Don't get involved in "debate" with lefty faggots. Just agree with them, and propose the most absurd thing imaginable.

Tell them they are bigoted racists if they disagree.

The truth of the matter is that western society has been degraded for the past 80 years to a point of no return. The price of pussy is expensive in terms of labor hours and is not even remotely worth the value that illegal prostitution had inflated it to be. It created a monopoly on pussy and indirectly a pussified nation of neets who by default (considering the small % of genetic lottery winners), are enslaved by the women in the society. This dictates how the society is run. The majority of men who don't even stand a chance either give up or don't even try because it is a complete and utter waste of time competing for the small % of actual wife material women out there. The others have to settle for whores who fuck but aren't getting paid for it (directly).

This pussy monopoly must be ended. The same way that cartels and alcohol mafias were destroyed when these items were legalized is the same way the price of pussy will plummet. All women everywhere will be forced to compete with prostitutes and as we all know, at this point, they are one in the same (w/out the pay).
They'll be forced to differentiate their products in order to build a customer base; otherwise, men will just go to another hoe who costs less. They'll be forced back into the kitchen and back into their natural submissive roles as they are forced to compete with an abundance of legalized competition. They will have no other choice but to compete and if they can't, they'll be left behind the same way a company goes bankrupt when it can't offer better shit than its cheaper and better competitors.

Of course prostitution will still be the lowest of the low for anyone with common sense.
Why anyone would want to make this illegal is beyond me. They willingly want to create and support this pussy monopoly.
Now slavery, is a different subject. And as we all know: it is already illegal (and will remain so)…

fixed that for ya

Apparently the Greeks and Romans, high points of western civilization, had no slaves or prostitutes.

Please, gas yourself.

You can argue all you wish that prostitution harms women, or that it is harmful to society. I will counter with this:

The role of government is not to enforce a common cultural standard of what is and is not decent. Nor is it the role of government to protect the people from themselves.

A government's job is first and foremost to protect the rights of the people. It is to accomplish this by maintaining a military and constructing borders to defend the people's rights from threats abroad, and to construct and enforce laws against domestic activities that threaten the people's rights.

It is acceptable for the government of and for the people to provide for public welfare by means of public education, public roads, and even public healthcare, so that it may improve its own ability to do its own job (as an example of this, public investment in science education may improve a government's ability to produce weaponry to use against foreign enemies). However, it should be noted that this should only be done with the consent of the people, wherein the rights of the people are not violated.

A law against prostitution is ultimately unjustified. While it may not be healthy for anyone who participates in it, the government should not force people to be healthy. At best, you could justify a regulation requiring condom use among prostitutes to curtail the spread of STDs. But the act itself ought not be banned, because people fundamentally have a right to be sick, depraved, pathetic excuses for human beings so long as they do not violate the rights of others.

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Many slavemasters are women, they must go too…

Bree thought that she found love in Charlie Sheen, a drug-addled now HIV positive TV star.
She was looking for intimacy. She could have sex anytime she wanted.

user wants intimacy too, but won't admit to it, so they will go through life unfulfilled.

I've banged hookers before.

It's not so expensive if you make decent money.

The hookers weren't that bad. Average looking white girls with make-up. Look perfectly fine with beer goggles, which is the only way you'd end up in a brothel anyway.

But it's just not the same thing. It's masturbation with a woman's body, not sex.

Sex refers to reproduction. Banging a hooker is one of the most sterile experiences you will ever have. It's not sex. It's not sexual.

You can't kiss them. They don't like that.

You can't dominate them, not too hard. They have a tendency to take the lead. If you're drunk and let up on the action, they act like porn stars for you to keep it going and get it over sooner. If you have an IQ north of 100 you can feel how fake the whole interaction is.

You don't have sex with prostitutes. They're performers, and you're the audience.

That picture is depressing.

This.

Fucking hookers just feels fake and empty. There's none of the emotional connection that comes with genuine sex with someone you know and like, and who likes you back. You come away from the experience feeling even more hollow and empty than you were before, it's soul crushing.

Fucking hookers is just a very expensive form of masturbation, at the end of the day.

just be careful. there are a lot of women who will take advantage of men if they know you like them. also, government really fucks over guys in divorce.

Have you fucked hookers?

I wouldn't exaggerate the emptiness. It's not soul crushing. I didn't feel more hollow and empty than before. But I didn't feel better about myself. I felt like I had just masturbated. Which is normal because it's exactly what I did. The first time, I felt a little disappointed because I was expecting the experience to be more fun and fulfilling. It wasn't. It was just like masturbation.

The first time I had sex, I hatefucked a small, skinny Asian slut. I did it in public. I choked her. She blew me. I spit on and chewed every part of her body. I came down her throat while choking her, and made her say my name. I spanked her. We kissed a lot.

After that, I felt a real swagger in my step. Good feeling, even if she was a slut, and there was no serious relationship. I did not feel that way after banging any hooker. I felt like I just masturbated elaborately for a small sum of money.

There's nothing wrong with slavery - and it's hard to define where the line for what's considered slavery even lies.


The poster admits that there is a fully reasonable, non-degenerative use-purpose for prostitution in ancient societies.

He makes the mistake of thinking that everyone in society needs to be upstanding individuals - this isn't true, there are castes. Degeneration is a question of the collective, not the individual - the individual's role is to do what they can to maintain the collective's culture. You can still have "degenerates" of an outcast standing who aren't actually bringing society down.

Those penniless, uneducated, likely orphaned or widowed women are going to bring society down more out in the streets or tricking weak men into broken marriages, than if they were contained into a whorehouse, serving a productive purpose as an outlet for male desire and entertainment in a self-supporting sisterhood.

I suppose you are also that pedo that comes by every now and then to argue that having age of consent laws and not fucking a 12 year old is buying into the jewish feminist agenda.

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Liberalism is cancer. Most people are not qualified to make their own decisions, and indeed, don't. All it comes down to is: "What has the Jewish media machine conditioned me to desire?"
No they don't; people who violate the natural order deserve to have their heads smashed open with hammers. To enjoy the rights of a human being you must act like one, rights are not for bipedal swine.

Why is every weeaboo twat on this board is a degenerate?

They don't get any sex, they're living vicariously through others.

To prostitute something is to do something soley for the money. To prostitute art is to make hideous public sculptures and overpriced degenerate filth like a gold can of excrement.

To prostitute literature is to write shitty Harlequin novels and garbage like the Twilight series.

To prostitute love is to become a sugar girl offering Real Girlfriend Experiences.

Prostitution is souless emptying, and leaves you feeling used up and eventually worthless, and that's without a crack habit to feed. I've fucked a few white whores in my time, all needed crack to fuck and only one was hot.

Hottie turned up dead later in a ditch that next week after her nigger dealer decided it was cheaper to have his friends ambush her after the buy and get a few free ones AND the rock back.

They beat her to death after to prevent her from telling the cops, even though she's a fucking whore and her word was worth shit.

Best arguement is to ask a vice cop for stories about shit that happens to rented flesh. Better bring whiskey.

He's not wrong. It's not part of the slippery slope since it's been around forever. Maybe you should confront the fact that women are willing to use their vagina to get what they want, be it status or money or whatever.


Nigger.

I think we've seen enough on why this is propaganda

Why are jews so afraid of the samurai?

we should encourage this, marriage exists for a reason.

marriage turned into an execution ground for men and their finances.

now that there is no marriage, birth rates will go down and prostitution use up.

When I'm explaining to women or liberals I avoid morality and just explain about oxytocin.

The more partners you have the less oxytocin is released after sex, and therefore the weaker the bond.

She doesn't have it in her to love a man, even if she finds one who will accept her.

40,000 years of evolution selects for men who prefer "pure" girls.

So has homosexuality,murder,pedophilia,bestiality and cannibalism/vore. Just because it's been around for ages doesn't make it not degenerate.

Cringe

Are you an acolyte of the Holy Vagina temple?

Humour always works best:

Would you rather eat a sandwich that's been freshly prepared?

Or would you rather eat one that's been fucked by at least 100 different men?

This argument doesn't work because I'm not arguing about it being "degenerate" or non-degenerate, simply a fact of life you're just going to have to stop denying like a little bitch.

What exactly is he arguing for? That women have the right to their body but men don't have the right to decide who they spend time with? Call him a hateful misandrist bigot and call it quits.

The truth of the matter is, slut behavior lowers a womans chances of being able to maintain long term relationship which affects a culture negatively by producing irresponsible, unloved children. Women also lower their chances of being respected by others because they don't show that they respect themselves by valuing their bodies as the gift they are.

People in general will focus their energy on what gives them pleasure, becoming more attached as they continue the pattern. Sex being the main attraction in your life doesn't contribute to anything except the here and now.

If that isn't the step that puts you smack dab in the middle of literal sodom and gomorrah, what is?

Retards like OP (yes, you're, as you were unable to express a point to normies so you instead selfcensored like a cuck loser) like to think this and that is on the way. Always one more thing when they fail to realize, shit already happened.

You move the goal posts so to speak because you're a coward afraid to actually do anything. You're the proverbial frog and it's not kek. Kek's for us, embarrassment for you. It is so far past midnight that you actually fucking wrote that "Legalizing and glorifying prostitution" is a step to something and not a destination.

Oh asking an image board how to do something? Bree Olsen the cumdumpster pig has more selfrespect. Like her I hope you die of AIDS, homo bitch.

While I agree it's harder now days to find a already "prepped wife" kind of woman, you need to be a strong man and they will naturally follow your lead. By strong man I mean someone who has drive to improve themselves, maintain emotional composure, work out, protect her from things that make her uncomfortable or scared, say witty things sometimes. Basically be confident.

I suppose it helps if you get a younger girl(18 to college age). Younger is better because they're more impressionable to tailor fit their suitor. The ones you find after 30 are all disgusting leftovers that are alone for a reason.

So you either live somewhere like next to Berkley, are young and havent developed confidence, are old and have to deal with leftovers or your standards are too high for your sexual value because you masturbate too much. Women are out there. Seize the day.

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What about the only pro I can think of: Stress-Relief
Prostitutes, whores, harlots, hookers, working girls, escorts, pronstars, whatever you want to call them, they provide stress relief
Sexual frustration is helluva drug, mate, having sex or even rubbing one off to pornography is a solution, do you have another, not to talk about just stress relief in general
Keeping the stress without letting the steam out will cause you to get more aggressive and probably get to burnout
Not saying there aren't other ways of "relief", it might be that you rub one You wanker or that you go punch the shit out of a heavy bag, it's your thing, but you can't tell everyone "Wrap your hands m8, we are doing some Vale Tudo training"
What to do with the stress buildup now


That was a dude I was talking with's argument, and I find it pretty reasonable, although we should weigh in the cons, STDs, wrecking families and such
But give me a solid argument, because every argument we come up with he will conjure a counterargument for

Those that would utilize whores for intimacy are misusing the product being offered. Those who look for love and intimacy are not going to find ordering hookers to be a good deal. Those who want to get their rocks off and nothing else will do well with them, and probably better than with the general populace of slutty women because they have lesser risk of unwanted reproduction or emotional attachment to them.

The assumption here is that everyone wants intimacy from every other human they fuck, and that just isn't true. And for those who want a warm hole to fuck, whores provide a service valuable to them. Yes, like eating candy all your life it will stunt you and fuck you over, but should we ban candy or maybe teach people when it is good to eat candy and when it isn't appropriate? Some people have a disposition to ruin themselves on whores - others on video games - others on drugs - others on message boards. Some people are just going to be losers no matter what best advice you give them. Do we try to 'leave no faggot behind', or do we make the best of what we can make of society?

For me it boils down to this: Prostitution, however reviled it is in a society, will always exist. Pussy is simply valuable, and people will pay for good product. If you keep it illegal, the prostitutes are recruited from vulnerable women who are effectively enslaved by pimps and whored out into dangerous, filthy, and degenerate situations beyond your normal sluttery. These women become a drag on society that everyone on Holla Forums basically reviles. This is inevitable - you cannot ban it all through laws or even morality, because laws can be circumvented and breaking taboos turns people on.

Now, knowing that, our other option is to legalize it AND THEN regulate it. This kills off the pimp class and removes most of the human slavery in the practice with the proper restrictions in place. Women can be protected both from exploitation and from making a job choice that would ruin them and, if not socially acceptable, may still transition to other lines of work when the time comes. You can still make moral prohibitions against it - and will, because this is Holla Forums - and dissuade many women from doing it. The spread of disease, the instances of crime, and most importantly the detrimental impact on society can be amended and contained, rather than pushed into dark corners where it will fester and cause far worse degeneracy.

You don't have to morally accept a practice or a product just because it is legalized.

fags like you are only obsessed with degeneracy because you are self-hating queers. OP's question was legit, your response was homo AF. whores have always existed and always will, either fuck them or don't, nobody is making you do either, although I suspect you'd do it if your dick worked.

Jesus christ, reading this thread in anons defending prostitution is like looking at a summary pic of a reddit thread defending cuckolding.

Also, the other thing worth mentioning

>Oh and not to mention your use of internet over such useless stuff, posting dank memes on some obscure imageboard or a forum, wasted time, poor posture, burning your eyes out, drags you slowly out of reality then human-interactions seem weird and tbh, this point is kinda legit, you can't deal with the masses and call them normies here, well yeah no shit, 99% of people you deal with are normies, you not enjoying their "normie culture" isn't an excuse for the inability to communicate, you will not be a leader, no one will think "He's a charismatic fella" when you are too disconnected, because of some obscure filipino chinese cartoon loving and white supremacy discussing forum!

there's been threads about it before so i'll say it again, Trade offs, women trade sex for resources, pretty, hunky, dominant. Thats how their body was made, this isnt something you teach them, they are born with it its innate.

What do you guys think of this argument?

"There should be no need for prostitution in society. I recognize that it will be there regardless, sex is one of man's most basic urges after all.

It promotes promiscuous and degenerate behavior, and degrades women to being simple sex objects, as SJWs love to say. Sex should be a reward of love between two long term partners. It is a basic animistic urge, and should not be pondered to. Being civilized is to move away from those animistic desires, because they are often destructive to a society.

From the ebook "100 facts about Whites and Blacks (but one lie)"

*>FACT 48: The tendency of sexual promiscuity has been common in Africa for thousands of years while monogamy was religiously practiced in Europe. The hormone-driven feeling of falling in love is an adaptive trait that induces pair [1] bonding and reduces the attractiveness of others. "The largest relative brain sizes among primate species are associated with monogamous mating [2] [3] systems." Sexual promiscuity is universal in African populations suggesting that this behavior is biologically based.

[1] sscnet.ucla.edu/comm/haselton/papers/downloads/Gonzaga_Haselton_et_al_2008_EHB.pdf

[2] ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1762360/

[3] ediplomat.com/np/post_reports/pr_cv.htm

Although this excerpt draws lines between biology between humans, (which I agree with) it's not really relevant to my argument, I'd like to add something to it however.

The two parties discussed are Africans, and Europeans, the African is more animistic while the European is more civilized.

Europeans, who've moved away from those basic instincts, have accomplished amazing things in return for turning in their most basic urges to some extent, for the sake of society. They've created countless things, build large cities that have stood for thousands of years, and continue to do so.

The African, who has embraced his basic urges lives in small villages, and has for thousands of years. (They've build cities, but nothing in scale and quality compared to that of something like Rome or Paris)

It's clear which population is more successful. And what a strange coincidence that the one who is more successful is the one who has moved furthest from these urges"

Wiemar republic. California.
Okay i'm done. That was sure easy.

user, are you trying to get fired?

This, I know a woman who used to strip and do sexual acts for money, and now she jumps from relationship to relationship every month, giving her fat body away all the time while complaining that she can't find a real man to settle with, all while cheating on the current guy with several others
Nobody wants to stick with a cheap whore, so while she thinks she's playing the field, in reality she is used and discarded like trash

Damn that hit too close man

Very pragmatic way of looking at the situation.

We're on Holla Forums. Everyone here knows that such situation was artificially created by banking cartels trying to choke germany's economy to starvation.

Prostitution didn't cause Weimar Republic, kek.

When I tell Stacies that if they're so concerned about being able to get abortions they could just try not having sex, they get all butthurt, saying that sex is a human right. Well, if sex is a human right, why aren't robots allowed to have it? Robots can only have it if they pay for it with NEETbux, and yet the government says that's not allowed. Fucking hypocritical liberals are ableist against my autistic brethren.

Stop engaging them in conversation. That's how they shift the narrative. Just shut them down immediately. You'll lose a few acquaintances "friends" but they're only doing you a favor when they leave you.

just keep telling yourself that, its g-got to get easier. then you wont feel them feels any more, i s-swear

The old forsake what is right for what is easy meme.

You can't because it's redpilled and normal

it always existed. move along.

It's simple, really.

Intimacy with many people makes for disposable relationships.

Disposable relationships makes for strained relations between men and women.

Both of those together make for a toxic environment for child rearing.

Raising children in an environment where the mother is riding the cock carousel and the father is absentee makes for a dysfunctional society.

When you have sex for the first time, your brain gets a huge oxytocin hit. When you have sex for the second time, it gets slightly smaller. After the third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, and fourty-ninth time, the hit continues to get smaller and smaller until the initial thrill is all but gone. The pleasure from mashing pissers is still there, but the psychological aspect of it is severely diminished. With this loss of oxytocin during sex comes a reduced capability to form meaningful bonds with a romantic partner, which is why whores are so likely to get multiple divorces.

Oh, and oxytocin makes you more favourable of your own people, which is why being a whore and being a marxist go hand in hand.

blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2011/01/11/no-love-for-outsiders-oxytocin-boosts-favouritism-towards-our-own-ethnic-or-cultural-group/

archive.is/YotR

One extra for you.

love that word salad and faggy useless images you "contributed".

However, the absence of your father fueled your obsession with degeneracy, and I gather you are both an alcoholic and depressed from your post, you sad cunt.

Make it moral repugnant but legalize and control it, otherwise in illegal you will not only have prostitute class but additionally pimp class aswell, and some people who get off on the taboo aspect, PLUS premium payment due to higher scarcity and risk.

If it's legal it becames a "meh who cares" thing. Plus anyone who fucked a hooker will tell you it's basically paying a lot of money to use someone else's body to masturbate rather than sex. It's not special enough to be a threat.

tl;dr - just like gunfree zones won't stop shootings, banning prostitution won't stop it aswell.

source or stfu

Took me a while to realize you weren't talking about literal robots

i like how nobody replied to your shitty bait.

I hope this keeps up.

well i guess smallpox has existed for a long time so there's no way of getting rid of it!
What a flawless logical path you've taken!
Clearly you've had lots of introspection on this subject!
Women couldn't vote in most societies until around 100 years ago so the suffragettes may have well not tried since it was the norm!

Nothing ever breaks the norm!

Well you wouldn't mind coming down to my flat and being my sex slave forever, since there's nothing wrong with that.

Slavery is the height of moral degeneracy.

Sometimes you should just go with your gut and deal with the aftermath user.

Just say to them 'so when your daughter tells you she wants to fuck strangers for money' she can count on your full support then?

If they start to stammer and stutter just say, 'oh I thought their was nothing wrong with women working as prostitution? So you agree with my point that it is an abnormal and perverse occupation then?'

If they strongly claim that they would support their daughter being a prostitute, pause, smile, laugh a little, and keep repeating several times very loudly 'So you're Ok with your daughter being a prostitute then? 'So you're OK with your daughter being a prostitute then?' 'so you're OK with your daughter being a prostitute then?'.

Then walk off, but pause to say to the first person you meet in a loud stage whisper, while laughing, 'lefty over there just told me that they'd like their daughter to be a prostitute! What do you think of that?'

Then walk off again, pausing only to look back at the lefty occasionally while sniggering.

Then continually remind everyone in the workplace that lefty over there wants their daughter to be a prostitute.

And who's daughter should we allow to become the community cum-dumpster?

Having sex with a large amount of partners demeans it making you less capable of making a bond with a person. It's supposed to be something special and personal that you have with someone that means a lot to you, but if you're not just selling it, but selling it to millions of people to watch as well, it's not going to mean anything to you.

Sex isn't purely about pleasure; it's also about intimacy.

There's even data to back this up - women with more sexual partners before their first marriage are more likely to divorce their first husband. They're also more likely to be unhappy, and less likely to be sexually satisfied.


That's a very spergy way of putting it.

its sex for money

does it even need glorifying?

I semi-regularly fuck hookers. It's how I lost my virginity and how I'm getting away from a massive internet porn addiction.


It's not entirely true that "they'll have no family to go back to" and all that. The system now makes it easy for a Romanian, Ukrainian or Chinese whore to come to my country, make mad dosh, go back home once she's approaching 30, set up her own business and perhaps settle with a beta shmuck.

However there's something even more terrifying: some hookers are locals who got bored of swinging and decided to make money off of fucking other men. These are married or have a long term partner who's aware and supportive. Some even have grown children.

It's a strange world we live in.

she's free to be a whore for money, and i'm free not to marry her

that's how free society works

is it degeneracy? i don't know, perhaps. but i still need hookers every once in a while.

Prostitutes: The First Feminists

Do you even realize the hope and optimism in that question?

In the social scenario you paint, most likely prostitution wouldn't exist without a single law needed. Would be mythical concept.
It's our flawed nature in making up society that creates fertile ground for prostitution.

Actually feminists in Iceland banned Cabarets and everything prostitute related. It's a double edged knife

Well me better make the Capital of Feminism Iceland.

People are ok with their daughters being community cumdumpsters. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Just replace prostitute with "empowered modern female who experiments a lot on who is the right male".

Ok this was a redpill in prostitution even for me

If they did, it's not for long.

Feminism is literally a trojan horse for prostitution.

Have you seen Feminists? What do they look like to you? How do they act?

There is a civil war in feminism regarding prostitution.

Some say it's their liberating choice to choose being a prostitute.
Other say it's demeaning and giving in free terrain to patriarchy.

So there are right-wing feminists.

It brings tear to my eyes that Holla Forums is telling them what the world isn't; To aspire to be something greater than that which you currently are.

Society really is so far gone and degenerate, that the only way to rebel is to be decent and moral. Crazy, really.

Pol was always right user.

I've actually haven't felt this bad before

can we make her end the suffering?

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Slavery where someone chooses to be a slave does not sound like slavery to me. Sounds like bad choices.

Psychologically abusing someone to make them your slave is unethical.

What is it, a Jewish Magic Spell?

The Sheenie Curse?

There's that implication that people don't make choices for themselves again

If you attained your current psychological state from lies and torture, isn't it time to dissolve yourself of past responsibility and move forward?

That's my point. Slaves don't have that option, pornstars do.

This. You better give up. Everything is shit and you know it.

ASHES AND ECHOES

May be cold, but reality shows that illegalizing prostitution is moral masturbation. It's as effective as fighting mass shootings by issuing gun free zones.

The ones in charge of ban feel morally rightous, go home to watch filmed prostitution (porn), and non filmed prostitution happens anyway. Hipocrisy from the roots.

lol, and?

feminists are females subverted by soviet poison, crazy comes in all brands.

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That was my original post, that this cunt Bree or any other pornstar is not a slave. Calling them slaves is absolving them from their own bad decisions; they should be held accountable like everyone else.

Only this year, user. Eventually she will cheat on you.

ASHES AND ECHOES

archive.is/EyZJp
Psychological Slavery

Nope, thats bullshit.

They are still stupid for associating with the person who is manipulating them. No sympathy from me, I hold people responsible for their actions.

You're right, but this was how they did it.

Ok? That doesn't make it slavery. Slavery is forced, these dumb cunts chose to take dick for money.

Get out.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_grooming

No, thats what I'm calling bullshit on. It doesn't exist.

Pornstars aren't children you moron

Mentally they are.

Does the girl in the video seem like an adult to you?

Even if that were true, I would still hold them responsible for their own actions because just by the virtue of being older, they have more life experience than an actual child. They should know better, and therefore are still getting no sympathy from me.


This double post bullshit is not helping anyone, stop it.

just argue within the frame of their world view, OP. Ask the that numale femfag how the "hypersexualization of women and literally making their bodies a commodity to be bought and sold on the market, a step in the right direction for women's rights."

Lighten up.

Idiots.
It doesnt matter if you agree with prostitution or not - it is done anyway.
Legalizing it would only make it so that these girls arent abused by nigger pimps, are checked by doctors, are paid decently and arent fucked for free by the pimp and his friends.
Also men who just want 1 hour of sex wouldnt go to prison (read: cheap labor camps) or pay fines for just this.

Gave yourself away there, Moshe.

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Clearly you're not from here m8. You're better suited to arguing on reddit.

Keep up your adult grooming, you sick cult fucks.

You get more pathetic with each post

Oh they're being groomed alright.

And you seem to like it.

I don't think prostitution is something that should happen but if a dumb cunt makes the choice to get into porn I'm not gonna make excuses for her like a cuck.

I don't think you understand.

Everyone is responsible.

But there is a massive grooming system.

I literally want to take it down.

No, by saying that the women are being "groomed" you take away their responsibility for making bad decisions. In other words you're making excuses for them.

This argument is becoming circular, so I'll just suggest you go back to reddit again where people are less mean :'(

They should be held accountable.

If we can reverse engineer the grooming system, there will be no-one left to blame but themselves.

Fucking retarded. Unless you say no to this kind of degeneracy, you have no right to look down upon the women who give you what you want. You're just as degenerate as they are. Saying no to degeneracy isn't that hard unless you're weak willed and lazy.

Now this goy is making sense.

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wew

Then we can legally groom everyone!

So your solution is to ban prostitution and hire policemen to arrest people.
Oh wait, that didn't work out, it seems to have given birth to your infographics.

So Holla Forums supports prostitution? lol.

Rational people who are unswayed by emotions when making a decision support the legalization of prostitution.
You're not very good at this whole arguing thing, are you. Why don't you come back when you're at least 16.

This again.

No, the highest points of western civilization was Patriarchal, Judeo-Christian Europe. Until female suffrage elected Woodrow Wilson and caused WW1.

White "civilization" before was basically tumblr.

The Adult Industry is fucked up. Why would you want more of it? We'll be making more infographics if prostitution is legalized.

It didn't do shit for Europe. The Muslims still rape. Except all the girls are groomed, so they brush it under the table.

You want child prostitutes?

see
I didn't know all of Europe legalized prostitution.


You are either trolling or a christcuck.

Ok, I guess you don't know what hardcore pornography is.

Cruelty to women is ok if it's legal.

see
also we have IDs here retard, stop talking in several replies

Fuck you. You're just being a prick.

Are you an ugly bastard? Is it time to end it all?

We've got this fucking ugly guy in here who wants to legalize prostitutes!

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as I see it, prostitution is a good thing. The prostitutes themselves are obviously complete whores but it would serve the important function of giving men a way to get sex without a committed relationship. That could lead to men being less dependent and white knight-y

But it would turn men into groomers.

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Yo, I hear you like prostitutes.

Let's make this a prostitute board.

what do you mean

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Can you imagine the coldness it takes to use women for sex.

The kind of people that builds, the kind of society that creates.

Total sexual psychopaths. Women groomed from childhood. More degeneracy.

It's already hapa-ning.

Disgusting

That's literally all that a whore is good for. They may as well be an object for all I care

I've got your grandma too.

I bet you won't even say "nigger", reddit scum.

Why are you even here?

I bring you gifts.

We will groom the pornstars and turn them into our own personal army.

Degeneracy will be physically eradicated.

So grooming is ok when you do it? You've fully given up making sense.

Kill yourself, my man

There's good grooming and there's bad grooming.

We have to Cuck the Kikes by pretending to Cuck Ourselves.

We'll wear a mask, and getting cucked will be part of our plan.

We're crashing the adult industry with no survivors.

I'm That Man.

I bet you dont even believe that yourself. Does the cognitive dissonance hurt? Try not to give yourself a headache.

(((Leon Festinger)))'s theory of cognitive dissonance. Aryan Please.

Enjoy your report :^)

You're not a Holla Forumsack.

I swear this board is a magnet for mentally ill people.

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M8, please show me one sane esoterist who ever lived.

Whores who are honest about being whores deserve far more respect than whores who pretend to be faithful.

It's a legit service for which there is real demand, so I'd do nothing to stop it.

However, if a whore thinks her whore past shouldn't cripple her chances at getting a fulfilling family life, she can fuck right off.

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So, like, a whore concentration camp?

I like the way you think user.

This user gets it.

That's the most strait up super villain shit I'm going to have considered all week.

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samefag

I'm pretty sure that if a samurai had seen anime, he would have died of shame.

She's good looking, I would totally do her, 8/10

this thread has a thousand more words in it than a womans heart is worth.

we cannot create healthy monogamous relationships in this society because women are very extroverted and the popular consensus, as well as rule of law, is on their side. when women get their way they behave hypergamously at all times.

in ultra catholic places like Poland maybe, even then i bet they cheat and lie and whore.

i love sex, i love intimacy, but after years of attempted monogamy i have begun that women simply do not feel love the way men do, or at least I do.

You may as well understand life like Ghengis Khan: you can't find a loyal bitch. you can't really control what a bitch does unless you're right there in front of her. what you gotta do is fuck every bitch you can, make them fall in love with you and keep your heart to yourself.

love yourself and love your loyal friends because these hoes have NO LOVE.

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she has nudes easily available

Posting an user's response in a thread a while back about Bree's video:

"I wish people would treat me like they would treat a married registered nurse with 2.5 kids in Indiana. That's how I wish people would treat me," she said, wiping away tears.

But they won't, Bree.

Ever.

Know why?

Because you could have been that.

You could have, easily .

You were a beautiful young blonde white woman, blue eyed, gorgeous.

The guys in Indiana would have been fighting over you - doctors, lawyers, farmers even, good men.

But you didn't want that Bree.

You wanted to go to Hollywood, and suck Jew cocks, and nigger cocks, and let people you barely know fuck you senseless.

And you let them film it all.

You smiled for the camera with the jizz of a nigger still on your face, from a cock you sucked straight out of your asshole.

Thats what you wanted, that's what you did.

So, that's how you get treated.

Because thats how you deserve to be treated - you earned that treatment.

Enjoy it, slut.

There's different kinds of esoterists.
Just being here is a pretty strong indicator m8.

you're an esoterist, harry

Of course, but prostitution was one way they attempted to destroy society. It's no coincidence that the same tribe is behind the porn industry. Not that this is an argument you can use on your bluepilled coworkers…

WHERE

Beautiful

Use google you nigger, fuck

I did, no nudes, just playboy photoshoot and fakes.

I seem to recall an image, wasn't it posted to her twitter?

Well I guess I admit defeat here as I didnt know the old fappening site was taken down.

You're not missing much tbh, just a video of her strip dancing.

Nice. He's very right. She did this, she went to Hollyjew and became a pornstar. Nobody forced her and now she has to sleep in the bed she HERSELF made.

semi off-topic but damn, im so sick and tired of this "victim culture" that jews and their good goys spread, where its "society" fault for everything. People dont take any responsibility for nothing. If they get in trouble, its someone else fault. Girl suck cocks in movies and no guy wants them after that, its the "manpigs" fault. Mudshits isolate themselves, dont get any jobs thanks to that. Its the racists fault!

Just wanna punch people like that in the face so hard, break their jaw and yell "THERES SOMETHING CALLED PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY YOU FUCKING RETARDED FUCKFACE"

Thanks! This made the thread worthwhile

Can't beat em'? Join em'!

Society won't give you a young pure partner?

Time to take matters into your own hands, gentlemen

Prostitutes deserve robbery and death

For once the nigger pimps may have an actual understanding of natural law that supersedes the white man

So much this.
Hell, everyone makes mistakes or bad choices.
Just own yo shit, nigga.

Ah, nevermind then.
I thought there were actual nudes of her.

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Women don't understand this because they were not supposed to have this life.
They were supposed to submit to a man who would make decisions for her.

Well she does get nude in the video, but it's not that special honestly

If you really want it, half/b/ would probably have at least one version of it saved

supporting something =/= legalizing/criminalizing something

this is something people who can't see life without parental figures telling them dos and don'ts can't understand

people forgetting this leads to a "misterious forgetting" of what should be seriously banned or not.

the ban/not ban becomes more of parental advice than serious policing then. which leads to further decay.

I like how no one attempts to refute my true statements.

Every man wants an emotionally dependent female servant.

Break the cunts.

Bring balance to the patriarchy.

And kill a couple whores (nearly every woman over 18 in Western Civilization)

G'Day mate

forbidding prostitution is like forbidding being a worthless drunk. Sure, it sucks that these people choose to do this to themselves, but you are never, ever, going to be able to stop it. And honestly, did you ever think these women would contribute meaningfully to society? They were probably always going to be whores.

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Your statistics don't make any sense. You're saying that the more they fuck the less chance of divorce, which is complete bullshit.

you are preaching to the choir
Either way i live in their heads 24/7 , i suspect more pol users had the same experience ,when i was younger i used to get away with everything in relationships but at the same time too autistic too realize why they suddenly hate me
If had to take a guess i would say most pol users has never taken back an ex.and understand what its like to have your gf make a scene with a panic attack.
Apologize for blogpost polite sage

That's some nice emotional garbage you spewed how about you tell me your mindfuck techniques to I can harvest prime virgins for their jing

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Prostitution was made illegal for the exact reason you just explained. When you put pussy on sale for an obvious value it devalues women. Society doesn't like women being treated poorly and so we end up in the mess we're in now.

As prostitution has become more illegal women have become more degenerate. There's an argument to be made that when pussy is cheap and legal women have to find new ways of attracting a mate. Tarting themselves up and taking cock will no longer be their driving force. Being a good cook. Good wife. Good mother. Their pussies won't be currency. Their character would be.

But Bree Olsen is still a degenerate whore.

I have a leftist whore in my college class. Just the typical case of leftist woman who leaves the countryside without her parents and go living to the city to "study".

I just call her a whore and I said that no man would marry her because of her promiscuous whore life. She attacked me saying that I have casual sex with women too, and I just told her that is not the same because women and men are different. She was literally panicking, because I told her these things in public.

Except she's right. You shouldn't be fucking women either since you're ruining women in the same way women are ruining themselves. You're a hypocrite. Hookup culture takes two to tango.

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Sex is sex is sex.

don't you mean WHITE society, schlomo? why does your jewish cult have to be forced onto everything?

M'lady, the white knight is here to save thine being.

Is there a script that auto-filters weaboos like this degenerate fag?

fucking awesome

Except women have no agency because they are animals and look to men for guidance. If men let them know that all they want is sex, then they will conform and waste themselves away. At the end of the day, these animals need to be taken care of but we've allowed society to degenerate to such a point where they don't think twice before destroying any chance of intimacy they might have simply because we want to muh dik. You're just a white nigger with no virtus.

This assumes that men value personality, which isn't true as much women don't have one.

The problem is men no longer own their own resources. Taxes take from men and give to single mothers, same with divorce, alimony and child support.

What reason does a woman have to curb her freedom if the government will give her more resources than any single partner outside of the top 5% will?


Men earn sex
Women decide who gets sex

As such a man being a slut has to work his ass off, a woman simply has to open her legs. It's the difference between climbing a mountain and riding a lift up a mountain.

You could also have men who fuck the same sluts, where 1 woman services multiple men and in that case you're not ruining "women" because that woman is already ruined.


Women control men you retard. Women decide who gets to have sex and who doesn't, men have a need for female intimacy. As such women control men more than men control women. This is the fundamental issue with the human condition. Men must control women to stoke the flames of civilization and yet women control men's biological needs. They're not equal partners working together for a better outcome for both, they're two different entities looking to exploit each other to get the most out of the other while spending the least resources.

Only the most blue pilled faggot would consider it anything different because they listened to Disney fueled propaganda about love. Traditionally marriage was a business contract where the woman got a safe home in exchange for reproductive access. Men and women weren't expected to be intimate friends, just two people benefiting from a mutual relationship. The bond you get from sex has nothing to do with the fucking, it has everything to do with pregnancy, men bond to the women so he will protect the baby incubator. And then when a woman gives birth she bonds to the tribe who offers protection from her off spring.

The probability of posting bullshit like this is inversely proportional to the number of times faggots like you have not been laid.


Let's first fix the whole (((thing))) than we we won't have to discuss about slutty bitches and shit

I'm not sure what you guys would think, but picturing my wife having degrading gang bangs would be devastating to me - so i can't even imagine what it would be like to find a video of that very thing on the internet.

It would be much more of an emotional hurdle than i would even attempt to jump.

Except that's not true. Women, in the past, were the gatekeepers of sex that's true, but that's only because we imposed upon them social mores and consequences if they didn't follow our social-contract values. We all didn't want our wives fucking other men and the country couldn't survive sustained conflicts with a disintegrating familial structure so it was enshrined that women should be loyal lest they find themselves alone and having to scrape by their lonesome. Since we have no more serious enemies and (((they))) are in charge, these social mores have been relaxed to the point of virtual non-existence. If you think that marriage is a business contract then you must be a mudslime.

Frankly, you sound like a Jack Donovan faux redpilled fag who just wants to muh dik without repercussions because it might cost you an opportunity to defend your own values and fall to hypocrisy. You speak as if humans are only animals, when we are animals and more.

To further the point that women aren't ultimately, in nature, the gatekeepers of sex in nature is to point out that a lot of copulation in nature is rape. Men don't rape nowadays because we have given up that primal method of insemination because we have evolved a front brain. Your argument falls on that sword, among others.

What are you implying here? That WM/AF couples are producing a concubine class? I rarely hear of WM/AF hapas being raised outside of a marriage. I think there was one story I read the other day of an Asian man that was stood up by his girlfriend of seven years at the altar because he was Asian and she did not want to have Asian children. He married a Chinese woman from China meanwhile his ex-girlfriend/fiance went on to continue clubbing, got knocked up by a Chad and become the single mother of a hapa.
How many westernised Asian women are there that are also single mothers? I just don't hear of this behaviour from these people and if they're not single mothers then how can are the children in a more exploitable situation where they may become concubines?

Or are you just implying that female hapas are all sluts? I know that male hapas typically have issues but again, I'm unfamiliar with the existence of the stereotype you're hinting at: female hapas are sluts.

Can you elaborate?

women hold us to different standards, but if they want to change the standard they currently use, its up to them to do it.

Actually I'm closer to MGTOW than MUH DICK. I just know you're full of shit if you think men control women and women don't control men through reproductive access.

Remember we're two creatures who are in competition with each other. If women had zero control they would just be blobs to fuck.

Men don't rape because men who hurt women got to reproduce less for obvious reasons.

Wow, no need to nuke your own credibility so hard like that. This isn't r/TRP, that statement just makes you look like a faggot here. If you don't know how to control women then that comes to no surprise why you think women are the gatekeepers and not yourself.

Your argument was that this is all purely a natural selection process and I kindly let you know that this isn't the case since rape would be more prevalent. Vaginas are surprisingly resilient which is why women can fuck 1000 men and have their vaginas not disintegrate. Rape is and was very common in nature.

Women don't control men through reproductive access, men ALLOW themselves to be controlled via reproductive access. The minute you let her know that sex won't give her what she wants is the moment she will understand she cant use vaginal terrorism to control you.

Vaginas are surprisingly not resilient and will tear during sexual assault due to the way vaginas work. They deepen and self lubricate when aroused, which allows for comfortable penetration without causing internal damage.

It's like you know nothing about reproduction beyond DICK GOES IN HOLE AND BABY POPS OUT LATER

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Every time I bruise my girl's vag it's fine less than a day later. You seem to know nothing about female sexuality and their desire to be overpowered and raped. Every girl I've ever dated enjoyed being raped. It's only when they are being raped by an unworthy male that they do not automatically sploosh. It speaks volumes that you aren't aware of this.

That argument sounds a bit odd to me. I know that rape occurs in nature however is it possible that you have perhaps overestimated its frequency?
Think of all those species out there and all of their mating rituals. What's the purpose of the majority of the males of a species engaging in mating rituals if rape is an option? Or perhaps rape is a last resort? But rape could only be a last resort if it was known that there were more males than females. Rape only makes sense when there is a shortage of access to females. Unless animals in the wild, when presented with the opportunity, "just" rape?

Dolphins are my favorite example. They actually gang rape females.

Wasn't that just a meme?

Could you be more of an edge lord? Do you have a katana and a fedora?

Not a meme, but it was exaggerated in a lot of cases. There are no 'rape caves' etc. The rape comes from the 'corralling' behaviors among bottlenose dolphins.

justingregg.com/the-dolphin-rape-myth/

Whoa great response dude, you sure got me

You are unworthy of those dubs. Struggle snuggle is best snuggle.

And now you realize women are children.

prostitution is legal in most of europe.

also pornography is basically filmed prostitution. If you jack off to porn, you're contributing to prostitution world.

I wonder how many do it while after going on a morally rightouts anti prostitution rant.

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Shit comparison. Slavery is forced work, including forced prostitution.

Using facebook/reddit tier reaction images instantly outs you by the way

Just cry "sexism!" like the feminist you are.

If you want monogamous society (I have nothing against polygamy btw) you must have prostitution.

elaborate please

you didn't adress any of the points.

Do you have any sources about the reduced oxytocin? It sounds believable but I haven't found anything specifically about that after looking around a bit.

Upregulation/downregulation is a common theme in biology.

I have in other posts, refer to them if you'd like

Well yeah, but I was wondering if we have any evidence to support this scenario.

Weird that you accept upregulation/downregulation but turn a blind eye to filmed prostitution (makes huge money) known as jacking off to porn.

The study is a little bit too redpill/meta for studies probably. I know that shitlordy science is very much banned in the west.

It's bad. I just thought it was self evident. The more pernicious problem is white men acting like niggers with their whole muh dik thing.

Man want to fuck. They want to fuck as many females they can. This is natural male instinct. If there is monagamy, man will engage in extramarital sex. This will cause rise in divorces and destruction ao families. People new it, that is why in Europe history always were brothels, very often mandatory - cities must have brothel.

encyclopedia.com/article-1G2-3460500150/prostitution.html

Our problem is that so many of the "normal" women have become whores, not the heroin addict sucking dick for her next fix.

Word, bro! Like sick, bro! Like that's some good shit right there bro! Potentially getting your life ruined is worth it bro! Fight a loosing game and you'll be at the top bro!

Most of us are probably here because we are outcasts to a deeply sick society. We are the beautiful ones.

Does anyone have a actual argument?

Ask him "have you ever judged someone for any reason? How about if i dated a 12 year old, would you judge me or would you tell me to go have as much sex with her as i can and enjoy? Then why cant others judge her for being a pornstar or prostitute?" He will try to rationalize but you can remind him that if we can only judge by his standards then he is being a fascist and a hypocrite since people would then be denied the freedom to judge for their own personal reasons.

When it comes to the marriage bit, ask him why he doesnt offer her a ring if its such an issue. If he says he would point out how theres more than just one pornstar out there and ask why he doesnt go out and marry a local one. You can say that shes totally free to go fuck as many dicks and cunts as she wants but that its simply no ones responsibility to marry her afterwards. By saying this you make it clear you "support" her right to whore out so he cant play the sexist card against you. If he does you can even say "well i knew who you were talking about so it means I've seen a video or two, she profited from my view (true for the youtube video at least), what does that have to do with me being against her fucking around?"

Try to concern troll, its the easiest way to fuck up a leftist. Alternatively go to a post USSR country, women here are pretty fucking sweet. Currently in ukraine and loving how women tell me that faggotry is disgusting or how half of the graduating high school class were virginal (unlike the US where almost all girls have fucked 13 guys by then).

No.

Your dick wants to fuck.

Your heart wants honor.

Your head wants to rule your dick with your heart.

The relative strength of each of these will vary per user.

Prostitution is one of the world's oldest professions, so I don't think it's ever going away. The best thing to do is keep it a legal but undesirable profession. Only the cheapest of women should (in a better world) find any incentive to be a prostitute.

I think it ultimately comes down to the distinction between wholesome women and whores: wholesome women would never do prostitution because they (in a more traditionally minded world) know it would ruin their chances of getting married, whereas prostitutes wouldn't care. It certainly is the case that all women would consider engaging in this acts, but the valuable women would realize that it wouldn't be worth it. The problem of prostitution will always exist when women don't care about marriage/purity and men settling for sluts. Cultural reinforcement for purity is really the only way to combat it.

Feminism is one of the world's oldest professions.

not everybody is into goat fucking, user.

Force millions of women into poverty through socialism.
Legalize prostitution to force women to be whores just to eat.

top wew

Bolshevism is about 2000 years old. It can't possibly be one of the world's oldest professions.

How comes pedophile grooming stages look exactly like liberal recruiting protocols?

underrated post

stay strong bro, and close your heart off to them

it's the only way

WOMEN ABSOLUTELY DO NOT EXPERIENCE SELFLESS LOVE THE WAY WE MEN DO, EVEN WITH THEIR CHILDREN. THEIR LOVE IS TIED UP IN SELF-INTEREST AND MAINTAINING CONTROL. THEY INITIALLY SELL LOVE AS A WAY TO GAIN SOMETHING. AND WE NEVER SEE IT COMING

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I wish the US would legalize and regulate prostitution so that the price would go way down, the girls wouldn't be anywhere near as paranoid, and I could walk and tell them I've never had sex before and waive a same day STD test in their face that proves I'm clean, so that I could do it bareback (fuck condoms), and since it would be legalized and regulated it would cost maybe 30 bucks and not 100


Instead I'm having to do a total overhaul of my life itself to pretend to be a normie by starving myself to get rid of all the fat, working out 3 times a week with full body weight training to build muscle, wearing normie clothes, getting a gay undercut, and memorizing a bunch of social techniques and body language, all in the hope that all of it combined will be enough to get me laid

I just want this to end already

Part of the regulation is mandatory STD testing of the girls like all the time if they come back dirty they are fired

kek, fuck off kid.

It seems that some women are probably promiscuous by nature. These women should be pushed, if at all possible, to be whores or courtesans or the like - some place they can be passed around with as little injury as possible. They will not make stable wives for decent, intelligent, well-meaning middle class men and they are generally socially unfit for wealthy men.

You believe that this part of human nature is curable. I believe that prostitution has existed since the earliest large scale societies, and promiscuity since sexual organs first sprouted into the world. Even without the Jew and the negro, the numbers and nature of prostitution will look different than today, but I don't think it is something that will vanish any time soon. Even if I can understand the motivations for social democrat types across the West uniformly banning the open practice, it's amounted to naught. (After all - who would want their daughters to grow up to be a whore? What sort of aspiration is that for a bourgeois man?)

Legalizing prostitution alone will not solve anything without finding a solution to the degenerate "one night stand" culture that mass media and society as a whole consider normal.

I can only describe what I've seen so far in eastern and western Europe. Prostitution is legal in both countries where I've lived.

In eastern Europe, the majority of young women come from poor families. When presented with the choice of studying hard for years then working for low wages VS spreading their legs for a day to earn a month's pay - guess what many of them choose. Also, if you disregard the act of paying for sex, there are still many young girls and women who go to clubs dressed like whores in search for a "Gold Daddy". In those cases, the cash that the man gives them at the moment is irrelevant - women look for guys with gold watches, expensive cars and thug attitude because of the long-term financial benefits that being involved with such a man would bring. Young men, regardless of wealth status, try to imitate that thug look because that raises their chances to get sex.

In western Europe, the wage gap is considerably smaller - anyone can earn a decent living with almost any kind of job. However, after a week of hard work, it is generally accepted to partake in heavy drinking and "scoring" which usually involves one night stands that rarely lead to a meaningful relationship.

In both cases, the society as a whole sees no harm in sleeping around, it is even being encouraged ang glorified by most of any given young person's peers. Popular culture - music, movies and TV promote promiscuity and hedonism because that keeps people spending their money on things that they don't need in order to get a short term satisfaction.

If you want women to stop acting like whores and men to stop looking for a quick fuck, first you need to revert the psychological conditioning that they have received since childhood. According to Yuri Bezmenov that's impossible - he suggests starting clean with a new generation.
youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

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washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/07/17/when-rhode-island-accidentally-legalized-prostitution-rape-and-stis-decreased-sharply/

Please fag.

I earn six figures have a master degree and work as a banker in a top 10 world finance in institution. I fuck young high class escorts who most of the time are still studying for their degrees.

These women are 10/10, the night usually starts out with a nice conversation some champagne and then we fuck for 2 hours.

She enjoys It I enjoy it, stop being such a fag.

BTW these women earn a shitload.

The escorts are not like your cheap crackwhores

book of five rings is pretty good though

it's kinda like Sun Tzu's art of war but from Japan

the pic is kinda uatist-y though, I'll admit.

I too like to lie on the internet

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I am not lying though

I can confirm this it's true. I just wish that they only strip, not having too many sexes. Some women don't know that it can affect their health. Maybe there are reasons for the people guard them like they are endangered animal. the during the ancient time, I am sorry if this offends the women. :-/

pick one.

Here I'll explain this in the most normie-fag way possible.

Men will never understand what a woman's body is/feels like/acts. Woman will never understand what a man's body is/feels like/acts.

So when any man says "it's women's right to their bodies hurrr gurrr hurrr hurr"

They're being god damn dumb as fucking shit because they obviously don't fucking realize vaginas aren't meant to just take a pounding from 8 inches of fatass cock for a fucking living.

Now if it's a WOMAN saying that shit? Challenge her to actually go and TRY porn, just one fucking time. Just ONE. Dare them. In fact double fucking dare them.

That shit is absolutely hilarious when these people say shit like this when in all reality all these fucking women needed/wanted money (most likely latter) in the fastest way possible but as well as much money as possible.

So now you get to view porn actors/actresses as nothing more than junkies trying to make money for their next fix.

this explains it in more detail

Porn actors/actresses are nothing more than the people of society who believe they deserve more than the average joe and will sell their bodies accompanied by significant humiliation in order to achieve their goal. Not only that, but they feel well deserved to their "goal."

It's fucking pathetic…

once these "students" eventually get their "prestigious" degree and one of them walks into your firm, would you hire them?

this is so true.
yet i still go and get off with some VIP hooker every now and then.
I've grown to cinical over the years, i am incapable of loving anyone and i have neither patience nor tolerace to cohabitate with anyone,
i don't even want kids, as i find them to be little more than an anoying responsibility that i can't run away from (I'm not a nigger tier scummbag)

Women always come with a price tag so i might as well skip all the anoying courtship rituals and get right down to busines. After all, i never intended to have any of the long term gains that get fucked by me casually fcuking whores

I wish i could say that the reason i'm emotionaly dead inside is because i had a lot of empty sex devoid of any afectuos atachment, but honestly i was allready a Grinch by the time i started fucking hoockers and i don't even fuck them that often either, i'm so greedy i might as well be a Jew, and i'm to lazy to even go out and get laid, i just masturbate in the mornings as casually as if i was taking a piss

I think my libido is dead

The main issue in my regard, would be that people don't understand why Female promiscuity is a bad thing. However, thanks to a large amount of Western Education, we know the basics of Evolutionary Biology. In a world where life is actually at risk (ape like/hunter gather) societies, you entered into monogamy not for the purpose of finding someone to fuck or for resources, but to have someone provide and protect for you and your children. This is why the best societies in the world have always involved Women being able to choose who they want, but being shamed for sleeping around.
Now men on the other hand don't need a Woman, in fact, Promiscuity benefits us, we can procreate and get the fuck out of there and let her raise the kid. But that's not how it played out, because Women's reproductive value is inherently higher than mens, we had to conform to their rules, or degrade into a society like we see in the Middle East and Africa (women have little choice on who they marry, usually it's incest) So men now can only have one partner and few children, fine, we'll stick around and protect you while you raise my child to be strong or caring. However, I need to benefit from this too, I still have some say in who I fuck, and why the hell would I have sex with someone who has already had kids? (Side note, this is why non-virgins are seen as impure, a basic biological response as usually, non-virgin historically also meant mother), they're less likely to be able to have children, less able to raise mine, I'd need to provide more protection, it would simply be too difficult for me to handle, so Women, in exchange for being a protected class, had to agree to some kind of standard.

What's that I hear you feminists cry?

Well sadly for you, that's not true. We have evolved to become Monogamous, we get pleasure in knowing that I am the only person my partner slept with. It's biological. I can't help it, it's not Society. Biology dictates the formation of the Society, and the Society is formed on the Family which we acquired through Evolution. Children have evolved to have a Mother and a Father, confusing this child by giving it 4 mothers and 2 fathers will cause the Children not to only grow up with a twisted sense of Love, but also have no Morals or Virtues of life, which, goes against our primary Biological reason to be alive.
To ensure our kids survive.

So, in short, because women evolutionary are worth less if they've already had sex (historically usually leading to kids) then they are simply less able to provide for my kids and I am naturally more likely to dislike you for it.
If we remove the intimacy from Marriage and Love and degrade into a Society where we feel comfortable fucking someone for a packet of chips then Society as we know it will degrade.

Back then laws didn't matter that much like they do now. Societal norms and cultures are determined by the law nowadays; it has to be legal to get any support and it has to be illegal to be taboo. If you know anything about the political compass there's also an up and down where either the government doesn't care about most moral issues or it becomes your nanny and has a say in what happens in the bedroom and etc

I didn't read the whole thread but this is pretty simple response. If pointing out that it's 'always been legal' isn't to show that it's not degenerate, then what is it to show? That it didn't spread the degeneracy just because it was legal? That's a fallacy since today's society is not the same as it was before. Specifically lots of things used to be legal while still being taboo and discouraged so if word got out they would be relatively shunned. What TPTB want happening now is for it to be accepted so that being a whore is pretty much a societal norm therefore destroying family valuese

You can't argue with brainwashed normies about degeneracy. They simply do not value the non-degenerate. They can't comprehend why something being "degenerate" would be undesirable. The only way to convince such a person is to change their value system, and the only way to do that is to set them on the path for redpilling and have them discover for themselves why degeneracy is bad.

This is why I consider these type of arguments to be a waste of time. It's basically arguing an r-selected mindset vs a K-selected one. You can really only come to a resolution if the guy you're arguing with has common values with you, and you're arguing about the best way to serve those values. If your values are different, it's not going to work. He's coming from "individual freedom is everything" and you're coming from "individual whims should be curtailed for the good of society". Until you two are on common ground when it comes to those basic values, arguing about whether a specific thing is degenerate is pointless.

You could find a way to argue that it's inconsistent with his own values, say it objectifies women or some shit, but what are you accomplishing by that? You'd maybe get him to be opposed to prostitution, but he's still working with the flawed r-selected operating system, and now he has even more silly leftist nonsense in his head.

I know it's frustrating. When you talk to these people, it's like they don't speak the same language. I can sit on Holla Forums and argue all night about the best way to do things, and I come out of it energized, because we're all working towards common values. Time we spend arguing is time spent working together on a problem. When I argue with leftists, I come out drained and frustrated, feeling like I've accomplished nothing and just wasted my fucking time.

Really, the best thing you can do with these people is not be concerned with these surface issues like prostitution or gay marriage or whatever. Hit them with the kinds of subtle redpills that get them thinking about where society is headed. After that, they have to do the rest themselves. Values can change, but it's a difficult and drawn out process.