Audio surveillance is increasingly being used on parts of urban mass transit systems.
It was first reported in April that New Jersey had been using audio surveillance on some of its light rail lines, raising questions of privacy. This week, New Jersey Transit ended the program following revelations that the agency 'didn't have policies governing storage and who had access to data.
New Jersey isn't the only state where you now have even more reason to want to ride in the quiet car. The Baltimore Sun reported in March that the Maryland Transit Administration has used audio recording on some of its mass transit vehicles since 2012. It is now used on 65 percent of buses, and 82 percent of subway trains have audio recording capability, but don't use it yet, according to the Sun. And cities in New Hampshire, Connecticut, Michigan, Ohio, Nevada, Oregon and California have either installed systems or moved to procure them, in many cases with funding from the federal Department of Homeland Security.
There is no expectation of privacy on a bus or subway car.
Daniel Perez
So human audible range is fron 20 Hz to 20 kHz, right? What is range of heard frequencies from these microphone systems? Could we create a small 9 volt powered high frequency creating device with strong audio output that will just mask the talking?
Christopher Bailey
Shudup shlomo
Josiah Stewart
No because you can filter it out
Ryan Perez
what can we do?
Aaron Campbell
Who the fuck appointed you to be arbiter of where there is or isn't an expectation of privacy?
Samuel Thompson
Aren't they the same guys who literally purchased multiple billion rounds of small-arms ammo in '12-'13?
Isaac Diaz
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Nicholas Richardson
It's a PUBLIC bus, numbnuts.
That means it's a PUBLIC place. There is no expectation of privacy in public.
Joseph Wood
If the noise is strong enough: no you can't.
That is somewhat complicated because human voice is not just one frequency.
Jayden Harris
The same ones.
Jackson Gomez
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Sebastian Rodriguez
It must've been hard to find ammo locally for everyone else that year.
Jason Nguyen
Riiight
Chase Thompson
W-we stopped using it. Promise!
Why this is so insidious vs. video is that a) video is (typically) visible if you observe your surroundings, and b) basically everyone learns from childhood on that if you keep your voice down low you can expect a 'personal bubble of privacy'. With this tech you don't have that. Ofc, most ppl still think they have privacy talking across the phone, so yea, no.
Jayden Thomas
wew I live there
Jose Bell
no this is not what it means "the agency didn't have policies governing storage and who had access to data" means that it's accessible to anyone by asking joe in the computer room how to access the database, and thechnically it's managed by the subcontractor's employees of the company that is owned by a friend/family of one of the transit authority directors
Daniel Gray
Naw, ammo production is fucking huge. Only things you will see ever go down is 5.56 and 22lr.
Blake Baker
Not sure how else to interpret that claim tbh. Ofc they didn't stop. And also ofc, nepotism rules NJ-everything bureaucratic. Not exactly certain I get you're point user.
I see. Also, aren't most service side-arms 9mm?
Lucas King
orwell is an autist
David Ward
Both are inherently right since it would take a Orwellian society to create one that's in BNW.
Ryan Gomez
Yep. The 22lr is due to panic buying as with the 5.56.
Sandy vajaja caused a huge shortage of the two, 9mm was fairly available everywhere.
Brayden Lopez
So?
Parker Rogers
Stop using public transport and/or do not talk while forced to use it.
Gavin Williams
I suggest you think more.
Charles Torres
You have zero understanding of how expectation of privacy works.
