WHY AREN"T YOU AN ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN NATIONALIST YET

WHY AREN"T YOU AN ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN NATIONALIST YET

St. Philaret of Moscow 1821-1867

God loves a peaceful world, and God blesses a righteous campaign. For as long as there are innocent people on earth, it is not possible to maintain peace without conflict. (Speech Before Russian Troops in 1843 During the Sebastopol Campaign)

Do not fear dangers, as you ally yourself with truth, for it better to die for her than to see her vanish. With your blood redeem the blessings that were purchased for you by your ancestors. Avoiding death for your faith or for the freedom of your homeland, you will die either as a criminal or a slave; die for your faith and for your homeland, and you will acquire life and a crown in heaven. (Spoken at the Meeting of the Members of “Conversations Among Lovers of the Russian Word”) (For the Peace From Above: An Orthodox Resource Book on War, Peace, Peace and Nationalism, p. 218)

Orthodoxy, Autocracy, and Nationality

Ss. Cyril and Methodius ca. 9th cent.

Christ our God…ordered us to pray for our offenders and to do good to them. He also said that no one of us can show greater love in life than he who gives his life for his friends (Jn. 15:3). That is why we generously endure offenses caused us as private people. But in company we defend one another and give our lives in battle for our neighbors, so that you, having taken our fellows prisoners, could not imprison their souls together with their bodies by forcing them into renouncing their faith and into godless deeds. Our Christ-loving soldiers protect our holy Church with arms in their hands. They safeguard the sovereign in whose sacred person they respect the image of the rule of the Heavenly King. They safeguard their land because, with its fall, the home authority authority will inevitably fall too and evangelical faith will be shaken. These are precious pledges for which soldiers fight to the last. And if they give their lives in battlefield, the Church will include them in the community of the holy martyrs and call them intercessors before God. (Life of Sts. Cyril of Methodius. excerpted from For the Peace from Above: An Orthodox Resource Book on War, Peace and Nationalism, p. 118)

Corneliu Zelea Codreanu

Fascism is preoccupied by the clothing (namely the forms of state organization), National-Socialism by the body (namely the racial eugenics), whereas Legionarism is preoccupied by something much deeper: by the soul (namely by its strengthening through the cultivation of Christian virtues and its preparation with final salvation in mind, salvation dealt with by the Christian Church in the most perfect fashion).

Democracy serves big business. Because of the expensive, competitive character of the multiparty system, democracy requires ample funds. It therefore naturally becomes the servant of the big international Jewish financiers, who enslave her by paying her. In this manner, a nation's fate is placed in the hands of a clique of bankers.

We have studied the Jewish problem scientifically. Essentially it is an abnormal situation that the Jews should live among other races, whereby they violate the great natural law that every race shall live in its own country.

Legionary life is beautiful, not because of riches, partying or the acquisition of luxury, but because of the noble comradeship which binds all Legionaries in a sacred brotherhood of struggle.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyletism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaut
bbc.com/news/uk-13855238
miraclesceptic.com/jesushypnosis.html
oca.org/saints/lives/2013/09/07/102532-martyr-sozon-of-cilicia
amerika.org/texts/against-the-neo-pagans-julius-evola/
thearda.com/workingpapers/download/the economics of monasticism.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity
oodegr.co/english/filosofia/nihilism_root_modern_age.htm
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Fátima
citadelfoundations.blogspot.com/2016/06/deconstructing-maoist-jesus.html?m=1
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_Jew
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Because I worship Venus, inshallah

Is Phyletism a problem?

No, because the primary problem of Phyletism is lack of unity in the diaspora, in other words, people must assimilate into the church of the Nation in which they are in.

In the West, this means the establishment of Autocephalous National Churches, something that is pro-nationalist.

The gun is good, for iron is eternal as is conflict with the lesser.

Fucking Abrahamics, when will you return to your native ways?

Christian churches need to be burned.

Yes, lets burn European culture. While you're at it don't forget all the manuscripts of Sacred compositions throughout European history and great Christian masterpieces in Art.

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Can you show me some European cultural achievements that show our relationship to these "gods"? What have they done for us?

Because I'm not a fat burger who thinks LARPing as a Slav is the shit.

The Parthenon?

Classical european art and morality?

Remember Urbanite and Abrahamic traditions are collections of those conquered with a semtic twist. The Christian churches break along the lines of Germanic, Slavic and Latin/Celtic.

Nature cannot be changed and it is not possible too stop nature's metamorphosis as an old Roman god would fortell.


I mean the books of the bible were originally written in Greek.
Best of luck you Slavs in taking back Constantinople, remember you would have taken Persia if you didn't have to take in Gothic refugees who sacked Adrianople and killed your emperor.

What's wrong with you m8?

You mean:
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Because that's ancient greek and roman culture

So you want to restore Ancient Greece and Rome (pre-christian empire) and throw away everything else?

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Weird, because with those cultures, Europe has thrived and conquered North Africa and the Middle East.

I want to restore the original european mythologies and throw away foreign religions.

What are you a jew?

North Africa and the middle east ain't nigger lands, they are semite lands.

Maybe because the set of tales which you believe in does not matter too much.

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They are niggers, and you should leave niggers in niggers lands

I never said they didn't have any culture before Christianity but I don't want to throw that culture away whereas you want to get rid of hundreds of years of Christian European culture.

Chant related references the Sybilline Prophetesses because they were recognized by Christians.

If niggers attack us, we would conquer them.

What's the difference?

Germanic hatred for Rome is about as old as Celtic subversion of Germanic culture.

Then why do you want to get rid of hundred years of Enlightenment culture?

The difference is that we worshipped our ancestors, our roots, and not some foreign desert god.

Are you saying that Western civilization was completely fascinated by the writing of a "nigger" he was a Berber, I know


Are you stupid? What are you doing on this board if you don't understand that Social Justice crap came from the Enlightenment. Not everything in the Enlightenment was bad but some trends developed into things that have destroyed our nations.

Legionarism is the Answer

Becaus i'm not going to convert to someone else his religion im not a traitor to my ancestors who were either protestant or catholic.

We have had enlightenment for hundreds of year with no social justice crap.

Hardly it started in the 18th century and slowly began to erode the old order. By the mid 19th century the ground was becoming ripe for revolution and then in WWI and WWII the Old Order was completely smashed and a New Order began to be built.

That's not exactly a great record for the "Enlightenment".

Not a good reason. When atheists pass away their children will have atheist degenerate ancestors. Should they become atheist degenerates?

Besides, all protestants and catholics have Orthodox ancestors.

Do you? Put yourself in the place of tribal leader having to deal with Christianity of the day, would you relent like they did, saving their race or be wiped out like some of the tribes?

You might find favor in gaining glory by dying in the struggle but your children would face a terrible fate without a family.

If you remember what the Bald Lady had said, "some say the easy path to wickedness is the road to Heaven but the path too righteous wal-hall, few enquire"

We have had the strongest growth ever since the Enlightenment.

The enlightenement only started to get shit around the 20th century with the start of Women's suffrage.

In the same way, I guess you christcucks should bow down to Islam.

The christians weren't strong until they started to subvert the roman empire.

Women's "suffrage" was born out of the anthropocentric worldview born out of the Enlightenment. The seeds of the problems of the 20th century were born in the 19th century. The 18th century survived on left over spiritual-capital from the Old Order.


That would be true if we ignored everything except power but Christianity has Truth in a theological sense and Islam doesn't. People who go on about modern paganism and Islam seem to approach everything from a Realist, Naturalist worldview rather than a Religious one.

As Codreanu said, "Fascism is preoccupied by the clothing, National-Socialism by the body, whereas Legionarism is preoccupied by something much deeper: by the soul."

you have a containment board where you can worship your crucified jew, go and stay go you cancerous fucks.

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Fuck off turk/mongolian.

Christianity is dead.

Stop ruining my religion you fucking kike.

Women's suffrage had its root in marxism and jewish subversion of Enlightenment value.

The jews have the ability to corrupt everything, they turn pagan gays, they turn christians into cucks and they turn atheists into dgenerates.

The Roman Empire had tactics and technology which could outperform the tribals. The divide and conqueor, were one tribe fought another for the Roman coin. All this lost glory, does anyone know of it? A great tool of the Chrisitans was enticing women too accept it and then they would convince their husbands.

Christianity in the west won't be able to stop the Islamic horde, and that is why they should call upon older roots Why do you think its called the day of the rope? or perhaps the Orthodoxy through Russia will take command kek.

Both christianity and islam worship the samn semitic god, the same "truth".

This is why!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyletism

Nope. We will fight on until the end, that is God's promise to us: "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." - Matthew 24:35


lol butthurt heretic detected


topkek m8. There are so many differences between Judaic/Islamic monotheism and the Christian Triadic Monad that it isn't even funny. The theological differences are profound.

A sad truth but weak things always rot.


How does the Orthodoxy prevent Jewish subversion? What's your resume on kill count of Jewish ethnic groups?

Is Phyletism a problem?

No, because the primary problem of Phyletism is lack of unity in the diaspora, in other words, people must assimilate into the church of the Nation in which they are in.

In the West, this means the establishment of Autocephalous National Churches, something that is pro-nationalist.

Same damn true for christianity.

There are more ballsy classical liberal leaders than the Church, look at the pope.

Expel them, burn their synagogues and books and create power structures that don't allow for easy subversion. The Orthodox East fell from eternal pressure and influence, not internal corruption which caused the collapse of the West.

How about the great Christian sin, that of Racemixing!

All spawn from Abraham.

*external pressure

the Orthodox East was killed by Lenin but revived by Stalin.

Makes no sense, destroying the culture of your ancestors, because they don't follow the right religion is a typical semitic thing.

In fact, you are accusing a non-Christian of acting like a Christian.

3rd pic is cool

Nope. They actually all worship different gods. Its the reason all the churches split down ancient ethnic lines. Look into their symbolism rather than seeing the word "god" which is just another god actually. sigh translators

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaut

True, but all human species including subspecies have a common ancestor. Whats your point?


There are great modern Orthodox leaders against the corruption that we have fallen into. Fr Seraphim Rose, Corneliu Zelea Codreanu, St Paisios of Mount Athos and many others.

I didn't. It comes from the Bible.

The Bible teaching that gender, race, war, childbirth etc.. are all caused by the Fall of Man, therefor SJW's are Christian who are trying to undo the Fall.

A Racialist believes that Gender, Race, War and Childbith are the healthy and natural state of the universe.

Right, so if I am a White man and the local church is cucked, I have no choice but to join a cucked church.

But what if i told you user…


i already am! Yes that is right i am an orthodox christian nationalist.

You have no idea what you are talking about. The Catacomb Church existed all through the Soviet era due to the persecutions. My own ancestor who was a priest was shot for "subversion" aka practising Christianity and preaching anti-communist ideas.


How so m8? Christianity respects the virtuous pagans and the Stoic and Platonic philosophy which was also an example of people trying to reach God.


If a "church" is cucked it isn't part of the Church. The Church follows Tradition and is guided by the Holy Spirit.


You clearly didn't read any of the posted quotes from Church Fathers all of which go against what you have just asserted. Roman Catholicism/Protestantism =/= Christianity. You need to look at history and observe the points where things went wrong.

You've probably heard in the West during Christianization a follower of the Christ could not loan money. So Kings would import Jews who would be allowed to make loans and that's how they built themselves into the niche.

bbc.com/news/uk-13855238
Sometimes they got found out

I'm sure the Orthodoxy wouldn't allow such a thing but just killing and destruction, will work for a time. But how do your prevent the Jews poisonous guilt from creeping in? Which is how they are taking down the West.

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If you truly believe in God then you must know that God is the enemy of man.

So you see, God fears mankind and what mankind can accomplish, and it is God who holds mankind back through the malicious and artificial conflict that He created. One needs to only look at God's Chosen People, the Jews, and ask himself what they have done to further mankind on this Earth.

Isn't it strange how an entire race is seemingly hellbent on the continual and tireless destruction of civilization?

The Church was revived by Stalin because Stalin saw usefulness in faithful men.

Look it up.

Then I guess if an enlightened man is cuck, he ain't enlightened.

I see, so you basically admit then when you don't consider them (((virtuous))) then you don't.

Oh, alright, join your local church, unless it isn't nationalistical enough, then you don't.

That's the heresy of phyletism.

Are you saying, that SJW's are not trying to undue the Fall of Man and that the Fall is somehow not Christian?

I hope you get cancer D&C shill

literally die.

D&C shill nothing to see here

D&C the hot new craze for some channers

Worship of the frog is superior? fuck off neo pagan LARPERS See i can do it to.

=FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT JESUS CALLED THE JEWS A SYNAGOUGE OF SATAN AND THAT THE SAINT CYRIL STONED JEWS IN THE STREETS=

Someday. Someday soon; I'll bring the rope meant for us to be used on them.

Are you defending globalism? It sure sounds like it.

For various reasons

Revelation 3:9

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Enjoy hell semite.

In the future when we are victorious we will have the example of the whole history of our civilisation to warn against Jews and other tools of Satan. If the time is approaching when the apocalypse will come then we will fight on to the end until Christ comes again and the wicked are cast into the flames.


Am I talking to Proudhon or Bakunin?


True Stalin used mens faith and love of Holy Russia to boost morale but the official Church was in captivity for the whole time after the martyrdom of St Tikhon. Then it becomes confused with the Catacomb Church and ROCOR being the free Hierarchy and the Sergianists being communist tools of subversion.

Jesus Christ was a homosexual Jewish magician who lied, created a cult, caused mass hysteria, and was executed. It's a retarded religion. Christians are brain dead.

At least reject Christianity for real reasons instead of blatant bullshit

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He was just another hypnotic cult leader who told parables and did magic tricks. I wouldn't be surprised if that asshole wrote the gospels himself.

Prove it or go back to
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Go on do it faggot

why haven't you kike worshippers accepted your true lord and savior, donald john trump?

Not that user, but the archetype of Christianity is very weak. There is nothing inspiring about a man who gets executed for leading a failed revolt while borrowing Greek philosophy to teach men how to live good lives.

I don't have the mimetic magick pdf. It explains everything he did including short story magic. Alternatively read any book on hypnosis or magic.

Idolatry.
Also by the time Jesus Christ was born and judging on where, combined with most of his depictions as white. i would not throw away the possibility of him being of a Roman settlement family, if so you are throwing away a religion where a European is the son of god. for what? to fuck a deer?

die LARP pagan

"Yeah sure he came back from the dead user but come on! fucking deers in the woods is so much better!"

In the mind of a Christian, this statement isn't insane, it is in fact completely normal.

Why would I defend globalism if one of the singular objectives of the antagonist in this story, God, was to scatter mankind across the whole earth? When globalism is still the tool that the Jews use today to dismantle progress and civilization?

The Tower of Babel has nationalist morals. One people, one language, living in one place close together and striving for one purpose. That is exactly what makes mankind great, that is what allows mankind to achieve ANYTHING with such an inevitable ferocity that even God himself gets scared.

Why is it that the Jews still rely on heavily on globalism? On scattering mankind across the earth? Why is it that their pet SJWs function completely through the manipulation and re-definition of language and semantics to suit their needs and confuse their enemies? God is still working against mankind today. God is still confusing our language and scattering our people.

He wasn't even the first person to "rise from the dead", which was incorrectly thought of by the way. People literally thought that Yeshua was going to teach people to literally walk again, whereas the Egyptian myth on this was a symbolic resurrection.

Christians did that themselves. They not only destroyed vast amounts of pre-Christian European culture, they even destroyed much of their own culture in waves of destruction. Since this thread is about the Orthodox Church, you should know about the iconoclasts.

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That is why the world's largest collection of early Christian icons is actually in a Muslim country, Saint Catherine's Monastery in the Egyptian Sinai peninsula, because it was cut off from the iconoclasm going on in the main Orthodox Church.

Let that sink in. The fucking Muslims in this instance left Christian artwork alone, while the Christians themselves were set upon destroying it.

In the mind of a LARPING pagan not worshipping god is completley normal.

Again, this statement which is uterly insane, makes sense in the mind of this Christian.

Stop LARP mate. you're going insane. i guess "muh i like to shit in the woods in my fucking hut while scribbling "runics" on a rock" culture is soooo superior you fuck

You don't know what Phyletism is, I've already covered that. SJWs are chiliast heretics by their actions even when they claim to be Christian. They aren't trying to reverse the fall of man they want to create a paradise for our fallen nature.

Again, the Christian says something which is insane and completely bizar, but it's real in his mind.

Weird, since every point they battle for, is basically about recreating a world without gender, war, race and childbirth. The world before the fall.

I already am.

You can't build truth from lies my friend.

But you are LARPING mate you are trying to revive a VERY dead religon of "muh runics" you dumb fuck

Not an argument, but I assume that's your point.

miraclesceptic.com/jesushypnosis.html

No, I never said I was trying to revive any religion.

Again, this is evidence of your insanity.

I'm not surprised that such a momentous event as the incarnation and resurrection was prefigured and expected in human history.


A heresy that was defeated. There has always been a struggle with evil mate, today the enemies seem different but their spirit is the same.


Only that particular christian, not all of us.


The world before the fall was like that because man was in contact with God and was clothed in His Grace. SJWs reject this and accept fallen human nature but they try and fix the problems that stem from this with the creation of an Earthly "utopia". The correct way to fix the problem is to acquire the Holy Spirit and be once again clothed in God's Grace.


Yet so many people try…

Alright, but that's just a matter of opinion. What I am pointing out is the origin of their ideas, not their implementation.

These people COULD, like the many sects of the past, use Christianity to try and return to a time before the Fall.

Have you even read the bible?

We still have the works of Homer, Ovid, and many others. However, most of the literature, and nearly all of the artworks and architecture of our pagan ancestors were destroyed.

The Christians destroyed not only a vast amount of ancient artwork, they vandalized much of the remnants. One sign of the religious motivation behind this are the damaged sculptures that have a cross chiseled into their foreheads, after breaking off the noses and disfiguring them in other ways.

And of course, massive destruction of various pagan temples:

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No thanks.

butthurt protestant detected

It is the opinion of the Holy Fathers of the Early Church and the 7 Ecumenical Councils which defended the True Faith. True Christianity cannot be used for SJWism because Christ's Kingdom is not of this world, while the SJW "utopias" are always of this world. The ideas could have had their origins in numerous philosophies, in fact Stoicism is much more suited to SJWism than Christianity.


Yes, I have. I've also read many of the Holy Fathers and the history of the Church and other "christian" confessions.

Because I'm a Hermetic meme wizard, but I have no quarrels with Orthodox Christianity and highly recommend it.

Judaism is a lie.

We have a clear timeline and understanding thanks to archeology done in the middle east, how this monotheistic religion evolved from polytheistic faiths and how these polytheistic faith evolved from more primitive animalistic beliefs from the pre historic period.

Every form of Abrahamic faith has their origin in Judaic teachings.

Even if you have somewhere respect for the old wisdom hiding behind the superstitious idea about god/s, it remains the fact that these wisdoms are coming from desert people, while white Europeans lived in forests and steppes.

The Western World is evolving to higher forms ever since the Renaissance that started in the 15th Century.

First the old forms of Religions(catholic/orthodox) couldn't withstand the greater knowledge which the West gained, which is why we have had the Reformation.

In the end all Religions became foolish, as the West used its knowledge about Nature to conquer the World.

Funny considering the biggest Orthodox country in our times is Russia, which has the same corruption levels as africa and asian shitholes.

Everything Russia does, be it good or bad, is undermined by the common knowledge that its a corrupt shithole you don't want to live in or depend on it.

The degeneration in the West, no matter how bad it gets, is just fashion. It can be changed.
The corruption in orthodox Countries bordering on the East Middle/Asia, be they Russian or Greek, is deeply ingrained into the population.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did, even if I disagree with their actions. The average person will always be somewhat stupid and destructive unfortunately.

That is not my argument, my argument is that SJW are trying to reverse the Fall of Man and the Fall being a Christian concept, it is clear that SJW has it's origin within the Christian religion.

No, because the Stoics would belief in an objective morality, that is expressed as the LOGOS, While Christian morality is subjective and changes as man Falls further,

It was a belief that sprung from your own teachings. Number 2 of the Ten Commandments is that


Both the Orthodox Church as well as Protestant sects during the Reformation engaged in iconoclasm, destroying vast amounts of Christian artwork.

But you are frankly avoiding an even bigger issue, the destruction of the pagan artwork of the ancient world. This is celebrated to this day by your church. Example


oca.org/saints/lives/2013/09/07/102532-martyr-sozon-of-cilicia

This is the Orthodox Church in America on their website in 2016 telling a story about a Saint of theirs who destroyed pagan artwork. Because it was evil, of course.

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Very Judaic sentiment ther, or perhaps Islamic, not that there's a difference. Traditional Christianity is thoroughly European and has always been opposed to Judaism, Islam, and the thoroughly Semitic and revisionist Zionist Protestantism and this new-fangled Bolshevik Catholicism.

If this image is true, then the whore of Babylon has three legs.

Sure you are a /christ/ and not from /d/?

The Bible, the life of Jesus and a large manner of the Church fathers are not actually European, but alright, in your mind they are.

This argument is broken because you're linking two different things. You're assuming that the SJW's are in any way cognizant of what they're doing. You assume that the SJW is actually using terms like "Fall of Man" in their movements, and then under that assumption say it must then have Christian origins because "Fall of Man" is Christian.

That doesn't link up. The SJWs don't have Christian origins at all, nor are they aware of anything that they're doing. They're barely even aware of themselves. SJWs are a purely Jewish movement focused on the continual destruction of man.

It's not a historical question mark, it is known and part of the teachings of the Church.


Do you use that excuse for ISIS and the Taliban?


See image. This is what early Christians did.

No it isn't, you deceiver. Western family values are thoroughly rooted in pre-Christian Greek and Roman values.


You've been reading SJW history, haven't you? Faggotry was very much despised in Latin culture and was only ever tolerated in a narrow strata of certain Greek subcultures.

They don't have to be, Christianity was the main religion of most Europeans for atleast a thousand years.

The cultural connection is clear, early Christian cults like Adamites, Lollards and Baptists would amongst other things, run around nude, have sex on the street, etc..

Why would the SJW's be any different?

They have a cultural marxist origin, with is just abrahamic faith with all the supernatural stripped out.

The Near East and North Africa during Antiquity were teeming with Indo-European peoples with fair skin speaking Indo-European languages. It didn't get browned up heavily until after the rise of Islam.

The law is spiritual and has layers of meaning. As for the archaeology, there are mixed opinions.

Nope, the reformation dumbed down theology and philosophy as much as it could. When it didn't it always took ideas to extremes for no real reason eg. Sola Fide, all of Calvinism

Communism was very effective in destroying culture and the likeness of God in man. Also, most of the Russian elite were White Russians who fled to the West so its not surprising Russia isn't as good as it was.


Perhaps they think they are but their approach is flawed. As I said, it is basically an extension of the Chiliastic heresy.

So is Christian morality. In the start of the Gospel according to St John it is written in english "the Word became flesh. Word here, is a translation of the greek Logos.

I am sure you have proof of this and it's not just an empty claim.

Also, why would your indo-europeans adopt a foreign semitic cult on mass?

Ah, so you basically admit their behaviour has it's origin in Christianity.

I have a question, how can morality be objective, when mankind is falling?

Wouldn't you say that makes morality subjective and that it changes with every age?

The Pre-Christian West also had such groups. Every society has had such such groups. Degeneracy, liberalism, progressivism, Bolshevik thought aren't something unique to our time and place and even happened in societies which never knew the corrupting touch of the Jews.

Yeah, I have proof: genetic testing, visual art which survived with pigmentation from the period, descriptions from texts of the time. You really must be a kike or a shitskin if you think the period right after the Indo-Europeans burst in conquering everything and migrating their populations into their conquests were as brown as they are now after the Arabic, Turkic, and other shitskin conquests of the Middle Ages.

No, that isn't possible, because in order for these people to reject their nature, they would first have to belief that reality is somehow wrong and then humans have fallen from some other form.

You see, Christianity promotes the belief that race, gender, war and childbirth are not natural, but the result of a Fall.

Equally, that would have to be the belief of those non-christian cults.

It was a misinterpretation of those teachings. Even the Old Testament Jews had things that Protestants would consider idolatry such as the Bronze Serpent etc.

Only Pagan idols. Not all artwork is an idol. Pagan temples in England were sanctified and used as Christian Churches so the architecture would have remained.


OK, I admit that your point is fair but is that a reason to do the same to Christianity which our ancestors accepted?


Christianity with the supernatural stripped out is an empty shell that can be filled with any other content.

Show me!

I'm not gonna pretend to believe in something that I don't actually believe in. I can't fool myself into being religious. That's just fake outward posturing.

So, if a societies art is almost completely religious, then you would have to destroy the religious art, but their seculiar art is somehow fine…

Yeah, that exposes you as anti-religious my friend.

No, I maintain that it is rooted in chiliasm/millennialism (greek and latin for the same thing but the latin is better known)

All those constant succession crises, court intrigues, factional infighting, financial mismanagement, theological and artistic navel-gazing, and bureaucratic stupidity which are hallmarks of Byzantine history just never happened?

Those are Christian concepts!!

Let me give you an example, I reject the idea of a Fall and I think that race, gender, war and child-birth are natural and divine.

That puts me outside of the Christian religion.

Do you even have a Christian term for my believes?

Triadic Monad comess from NeoPlatonism, not Abrahamaic bullshit. Hell, Islam and Judaism are both Semitic legalism; Christianity is Greek and Latin mysticism and scholasticism.

Fuck, you're such an unlearned plebe who probably learned all you know from the Renegade faggots or Varg.

He, atleast Varg has 4 children, how many do you have?

No, the enemies of Man are those who try to subvert both God and Nature to make themselves as gods on earth. We all know who they are.

Nope, I'm anti false religion. If Pagan ideas were inspired or useful they were incorporated because we believe that God was helping them too even if they only had imperfect ideas about Him.


I was referring to Holy Russia, not the Byzantine Empire. The Byzantines had their problems but they were more political in nature than religious.


What do you mean a Christian term? Christianity permeated all of a persons life, separation of sacred and secular can easily lead to a flawed perspective. I guess the Christian term for your beliefs are whatever you call them, why should we give them a different name?

In other words bade up bullshit without empirical proof.


The reformation resulted from the people gaining access for the first time to the books their faiths were based on.

You can claim the people didn't understand and dumbed it down, but such a distrust against the people is the highest from of kikery and anti-nationalist. Disproving OPs claim that Orthodoxy supports Nationalism.


Russia was a corrupt shithole before Communism was even invented and its the reason why they were wrecked so hart by it. They entered WW1, because of the course of the 19th Century the Russian Empire became a joke.

Russian nationalist like to claim the struggle of their Country is geopolitical, but in truth its their culture struggling against its inherit addiction to corruption. Every couple hundred years they gained a Leader that was able to limited said corruption, only for them to plunge back into the darkness of their own debauchery once that Leader died.

And random nigger has 15 kids, does that make him superior to Varg?

See, proving your simple-mindedness for all to see.

It's not a "misinterpretation," it is just an interpretation of a body of work loaded with contradictions. If anything, iconoclasm does seem closer to what was intended by Christian scripture, as the 2nd commandment of the Decalogue against having idols is not something to be taken lightly. It is not a random comment by Paul or something like that.

The desire to be creative and have artwork relating to your beliefs is a human desire, not something that is part of the artificial world of Christian belief.

Yeah, which was a mistake: there was a reason that Book was kept under lock and key and the actual faith resembled nothing of what was in it.

Nice dubs, though.

But Christianity does not reference itself to the Egyptian myth of Osiris and that should raise red flags for anyone who is not dogmatic. It posits itself as the only true work to ever exist, and it worked quite well for awhile. Now that being a skeptic isn't punishable by death, as it was for about a thousand years, and people realizing that Christianity does not have a monopoly on the afterlife, Christianity has lost all power that it once had. The religion only works in a vacuum.

Let's worship a religion, that supresses native european religions.

Nice.

Because I don't worship your special snowflake imaginary friend

Ha, that's what I think of Pagan, Christian, and secular ideas.

I already am.

You do realize originally Christianity was divided into many competing sects, several of which were based in Alexandria and did reference that myth. The problem is, the sects that became dominant politically and which survive today were petty worldly shit sects that were looking for power and wealth.

Nope, in most cases the history checks out and when it doesn't its usually a point with an important allegorical or moral meaning.

You've confused Orthodox and Roman Catholicism. In Orthodoxy Scripture as always translated into the regional dialect even if that meant creating a new alphabet as they did for the slavs.

Nope, the Russian Empire was a great thing and Stolypin's reforms would have done a better job of modernising it than the communist way which killed millions of people.

No, absolutely not, and we are in agreement there, if you are talking about the artifacts of Christianity. What Varg did destroying those beautiful old stave churches was terrible.

With that said, the vast majority of churches built in the past 50-100 years really don't have a lot of artistic merit. If at whatever point people stop attending them, they really aren't worthy of being preserved for historical/aesthetic reasons.

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It is because Scripture is only first out of a greater Tradition. Outside of Tradition it becomes difficult to interpret correctly. That is why the Church and Holy Tradition exist.

Right, you think you have to destroy religions, when you disagree with them, which means every religion on this earth except your own.

Exactly, my believes can not be called by any Christian term.

While you use Christian terms to name SJW's.

No, because that person would be a nigger and not a White man.

This could be said of most architecture build in the last 50-100 years.

The most annoying things about Pagans is when you put on your gay Jew-like persecution complex and whine about CHRISTIANS BURNED DOWN MUH MAGIC TREE. The most annoying thing about Christians is your MUH BUYBUHL IS THE ONE TRUE BOOK AND MY CHURCH IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S RIGHT shit. The most annoying thing about atheists is your I JUST DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD THAT'S ALL ATHEISM IS, AND NOW I'M GOING TO SAY SOME SHIT SHOWING I BELIEVE IN MATERIALISM AND POSITIVISM BUT IT'S TOTALLY NOT A RELIGION.

There is no concrete evidence he did.

Incidentally, you might have swallowed a Protestant lie here that the Catholic church never made vernacular versions of the Bible available.

When two Christian sects say bad things about one another, it's always amusing to see which one is lying more. In this case, the Protestants are.

And if I go off of most Christian's on this board's logic, it's pointless to revive any sect that is dead. Regardless, it's impossible to greenpill any normie Christian on this subject as they would think that Egyptians were demonic entities, again due to the fact that the bible posits itself against all other past religious works.

Weird, because most the psalms are about a man, who is a victim and he compains to YHWH that he is a victim and that YHWH should kill all those people that bully him.

Yes, when Christianity was most hostile to the Jews, it was totally under Jew control. Remember kids, Western civilizatoin has always been under the control of Jews, everything in it now is under the control of Jews, everything will always be enslaved to the Jews, so don't try anything except fighting amongst yourselves.

t. totally not a Jew, see I posted conniving merchant pic proving I'm one of you

I agree that a lot of modern stuff is trash. Most of those "modern" church buildings are unlikely to be Orthodox though as Orthodoxy puts great value and important on Tradition.


Your belief is some sort of realism or pantheism I'm guessing from the little you've told me of it. SJWism is only similar to chiliasm. SJWism is a complex phenomenon born of many different movements and ideas.

That "Greater Tradition" is just politicking, as can be seen with the Nicene creed and the Arian heresy.

It certainly has no connection with the divine.

Read the next sentence: my opinions of the Bible aren't very high.

The tradition and the mysticism is the worthwhile part, the ritual is nice, too, from an aesthetic perspective; Orthodoxy doesn't have the strong scholastic body that Catholicism does, though.

You don't even understand how the Divine manifests itself. Silly exoteric.

Well, that's the atheist perspective of that history. The Christian perspective is that the Church is guided by the Holy Spirit to maintain right doctrine.


Fair enough, all those things annoy me too. Even people sperging about muh one true book with no other knowledge to contextualize what they are sperging about

Alright, then what are my believes similar too.

I reject the Fall and I belief that gender, race, war and child-birth are natural and divine.

No, it's not realism or patheism.

The Christians along with the Jews have the greatest persecution complex of any people in history. Virtually all of the stories of ancient martyrs were outright lies used to feed it.

>>>/cucktianity/123

The magic story of the Jew on a Stick has been used as an excuse to mislead the gullible for 2000 fucking years. Isn't it time we grow up? Jesus fuck a duck, it's been done to death, already. Christianity has about as much validity to it as Judaism or Islam. There all just Semitic excuses to lord over other races of men.

Christians, why don't you fuck off back to Israel? There you will be welcomed with open hearts, as long as you have more money to pay reparations for your guilty sins.

Muslims are slightly worse than christians when it comes to having a persecution complex. But not by much.

You haven't really given me enough to name what you believe other than just to repeat what you have stated.


Most of the martyrdoms can be confirmed with historical sources.


At least reject Christianity for real reasons and educate yourself on the philosophical and moral issues of religion in general. Even a brief exploration of philosophy and theology is useful imo and history is always important.


Protestants are the worst because they cry at the persecution whereas with Orthodoxy we take the martyrdoms as an example to follow. We try and cultivate the same courage and faith.

Not the point, the point is that whatever I belief, it's not part of the Christian religion.

At least step off you condescending soapbox, you fucking idiot. You're embarrassing yourself.

A lot of things aren't "part of the Christian religion" but all things can be interpreted from a Christian point of view.

Thats not the problem, the problem was that the official church language was different from the people.

This and other things made the Catholic church a stat inside european nations and this Investiture Controversy weakened Europe and made it susceptible to outside attacks.

Even Hitler had still to deal with this bullshit, which is why he was forced to make the Reichskonkordat with the Catholic Church.

Jews love persecution to keep their people together and to keep their special status and privileges. Their fucking Religion is nothing but one big Stockholm Syndrome.

So don't act like Christian hostility towards Jews mattered, when in fact it allowed them to gain control over the financial and other industries that now control the world.

Interpret my believes from a Christian point of view, do not belief in the Fall, think that gender, race, child-birth and war are natural and divine, what am I?

If you don't want to be treated as someone ignorant don't make ignorant and foolish posts.

Bu….but Sperglin told me only modern Judeo Christianity is bad and that Yahshua had blue eyes and blonde hair! :^)

Just another Christian having a religious moment over the keyboard.

Well, your incorrect about there not having been a fall and as for the rest of it I don't have enough information to have any real understanding of what you mean by "natural and divine".

One of the greatest ironies is that Christians are absolutely not welcome in Israel other than as paying tourists. If you are a Christian, even one with Jewish ancestry, they don't want you.

It makes the adulation of Israel by Christians even more bizarre.

Well, today, Jews beat everyone by a mile. I don't think either Muslims or Christians today actually have that strong a persecution complex, as they can credibly point to things where their people have been treated terribly. Christians have completely given priority to the sufferings of Jews over themselves. The mistreatment of Christians in the Middle East does not get 1% of the concern that the Jews in Israel get.

It's really bizarre.

That's not even remotely true. Check the link I gave about the book The Myth of Persecution

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What reason does that author put forward to reject the hagiographers who simply complied oral history? Its just some atheist reinterpreting things from a secular viewpoint.

I didn't actually realize that cucktianity was a real board

What do you want to know about what is natural and divine.

I belief that there is a natural order, instituted by God and that this natural order includes and has always included gender, race, war and child-birth and these things are good.

Sounds vaguely like Stoicism

But it's not.

Now, Christians on the other hand actually belief that these four points, namely race, gender, war and child-birth are punishments.

I do not belief this.

They are really this dumb and will fight and die for the jew.

Their absurdity, and more importantly the fact that there is very little written about them by non-Christians for many of the periods where they claimed that they were being heavily persecuted.

There were some periods where Christians were heavily persecuted, as with Diocletian, but for most of Roman history, they were relatively tolerated. The Romans saw Christianity as a superstitio, a dangerous cult, but they were generally respectful of other religions in a way that Christians were not.

No, its actually an anti-christian board filled with pagans? atheists? I don't really know…

from an atheist viewpoint

Because it challenged the Roman Civic cults unlike other religions. True religion doesn't tolerate civic religion anymore than true nationalism tolerates civic nationalism.

This board consists mostly of christ cucks that want to sick off Donald Trumpowitz.

Hell is forever, christcucks.

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PRAISE KEK

I guess thats the cue for this thread to be flooded with retards. Time to leave.

I'm not a christian and I don't believe in any gods - not even KeK. But Iunderstand that religion and especially faith are an essentical part of human society - especially the common man. Not everyone has a great intellect and alot of people just want to believe in something. This is human nature and it will just never ever change. Going against it is as delusional as leftists trying to go against natural gender roles or the attempt to create equality in a world of inequality.
There are only three options: Force society to become atheist and see men lose their faith and morality while the christian faith stays alive in secret and re-emerges even stronger in opposition to you and your ideals (see: USSR - East Europe) Second option would be to replace all current form of religion with paganism - a thing utterlay condemned to fail. All pagan symbolism has been swallowed by the catholic church - all it's symbolic power is already occupied - coming up with anything new would just be alien to europeans just as modern art or mohammedian art. Third Option: the reformation of the church. In alignment with Evolian, taking what is good about the structures of the current church and infusing it with proper ideals while slowly stripping it of it's degenerate and judeo-christian values is the only option. Let people have their churches, their symbols and what they are used to - things created by 2000 years of european artistic expression, an incredible valuable treasure - and infuse it with new aryanism and ancient primordial pagan principles.
>"This having been said, there remains the real possibility of transcending certain aspects of Christianity. But one must be quite clear: the Latin term “transcendere” means literally leaving something behind as one rises upwards, and not downwards! It is worth repeating that the principal thing is not the rejection of Christianity: it is not a matter of showing the same incomprehension towards it as Christianity itself has shown, and largely continues to show, towards ancient paganism. It would rather be a matter of completing Christianity by means of a higher and an older heritage, eliminating some of its aspects and emphasizing other, more important ones, in which this faith does not necessarily contradict the universal concepts of pre-Christian spirituality." – Julius Evola - against the neo-pagans amerika.org/texts/against-the-neo-pagans-julius-evola/

The only old church to still stand to it's own ideals and not yet totaly coopted by liberalism, materialism or marxism is the Orthodox church. It isn't perfect and of course there are orthodox priest cucks. But overall it is the only church left with at least a pinch of europeanism in it. Reform it. Common people: farmers, soldiers, housewifes, construction workers, bank clerks, musicians, mothers and fathers will always crave spirituality. You have to accept the fact that the majority of people just want to live life and lack the intellectual focus to be faithless without becoming nihilist. They will always try to fill that void with something. Today people fill it with materialism, their favorite sports team or recently the faith in multiculturalism. All of which lack fundemental properties faith was evolutionarily designed to do: create purpose, instill values and establish community. Why did a hundret generations of your ancestors go to the same church every sunday just like 99% of all other people in the village/ town? Was it because jesus would be angry at them if they didn't? No. Because it was a place of community - it was were you would meet your neighbours and your neighbour's neighbours, the smith, the school teacher, the postman - the people who formed the community around you. It was where you would sit down and have a chat with the people that surround your life everyday. It was the foundation of trust between you, your neighbours, your town and in large your people. Common values, common purpose and unconditioned community.The marxists were right in that the church was preventing the workers to rise up - because it gave people trust into the community outside of the materialistic and profit driven world. Why did jews always resent the church as a whole? Because just as they were angered they were not allowed into the country clubs of 1950s america - they were not allowed into the churches and not allowed to be part of this european community that seemed to unite the whole nation in a common practice. And what do we have nowadays in this materialistic social wasteland? Who do people trust? If you are a cuckservative Money is the new church of yours - trust in self-interest. If you are a 'progressive' then multiculturalism and equality are your new church - trust in liberal groupthinking. And what unites these two groups is the common church of television - trust in that everyone attends the electic mass where they are instilled with marxist ideology and everyones children sing the same songs by Nickie Minaj or Miley Cyrus. The common man always will be a lemming and try to conform to the society he percieves around him. Before the advent of materialism and liberal-marxism - he would get this values from the people around him, the people he met at church, the people he would have conservations with and trust. Nowadays the television has replaced that function and has created a false picture of society. Weak men and especially women are perceptive to this un-truth and try to emulate it in any way. Good girls start twerking and good boys start behaving like black gangster rappers. All because they think "This is what society around me expects me to do" and it realy appears to be this way because everyone around him is tuned into the same channel: the electric mass. This is the world without Values, without purpose and without community.

That made me lol a little bit.

Evola on the topic of neo-pagans:

This, alas, is not the path taken by the radical circles we have mentioned. Many of these neo-pagans seem to have fallen into a trap deliberately set for them, often ending up by advocating and defending ideas that more or less correspond to that invented, nature-bound, particularistic pagandom, lacking light and transcendence, which was the polemical creation of a Christian misunderstanding of the pre-Christian world, and which is based, at most, on a few scattered elements of that world in its decline and devolution. And as if this were not enough, people often resort to an anti-Catholic polemic which, whatever its political justification, often drags out and adapts the old clichÈs of a purely modern, rationalist and enlightenment type that have been well-used by Liberalism, Democracy, and Freemasonry. This was also the case, to a degree, with H. S. Chamberlain, and it appears again in a certain Italian movement that has been trying to connect racial thinking with the “idealistic” doctrine of immanence.

There is a general and unmistakable tendency in neo-paganism to create a new, superstitious mysticism, based on the glorification of immanence, of Life and Nature, which is in the sharpest contrast to that Olympian and heroic ideal of the great Aryan cultures of pre-Christian antiquity. It would indicate much more a turning towards the materialistic, maternal, and telluric side, if it did not exhaust itself in foggy and dilettantish philosophizing. To give an example, we might ask what exactly is meant by this “Nature,” on which these groups are so keen? It is little use to point out that it is certainly not the Nature that was experienced and recognized by ancient, traditional man, but a rational construct of the French Encyclopedist period. It was the Encyclopedists who, with definitely subversive and revolutionary motives, made up the myth of Nature as “good,” wise, and wholesome, in opposition to the rottenness of every human “Culture.” Thus we can see that the optimistic nature-myth of Rousseau and the Encyclopedists marches in the same ranks as “natural right,” universalism, liberalism, humanitarianism, and the denial of any positive and structured form of sovereignty. Moreover, the myth in question has absolutely no basis in natural history. Every honest scientist knows that there is no room for “Nature” in the framework of his theories, which have as their object the determination of purely abstract equivalences and mathematical relationships. As far as biological research and genetics are concerned, we can already see the disequilibrium that would occur the moment one held certain laws to be final, when they only apply to a partial aspect of reality. What people call “Nature” today has nothing to do with what nature meant to the traditional, solar man, or to the knowledge of it that was accessible to such a man thanks to his Olympian and regal position. There is no sign of this whatever in the advocates of this new mysticism.

Some day, one day, it will be a ban-able offense to post Semitic trash on this board.

All Cuckstians are race traitors. They have chosen a foreigner as a deity to worship and indulge in a tradition which began in Europe by murdering European priests and nobles while destroying the cultural sites of our ancestors. Because they worship a Semite, they are nothing more than slaves to Semites. They do not work for the advancement of our race. They do not care about making Europe European; they only care about making it Cuckstian. If that means importing a million shitskin Christcucks because their numbers among White populations are dwindling, they'll do it just as they are doing now. Every major Cuckstian sect advocates for White Genocide through immigration and reconciliation with Semites. Yes, even the leader of the Orthodoxy. They will continue to teach your children the Semitic lies about this world and our history if you allow them.

So we must now allow them. No Christcuck must be allowed anything. Only by silencing once and for all this Semitic tradition can we move toward being a free people again. After all, those that worship a foreigner and a foreign tradition are nothing more than slaves to that foreign group.

Well then, its a good thing that Orthodox Christianity's goal is the salvation of mens souls and not making nations Christian (although this helps when done in a Nationalist manner).

Then why does the leader of the Orthodoxy advocate for accepting rapefugees while agreeing with the Pope that such immigration is a human right?

If the Orthodoxy did not want to play politics for the advantage of Semites, their leaders would not take photo op trips to immigrant camps while producing sound bites for the (((media))) which promote White Genocide.

Kindly hang yourself, Semite worshiper. You have no place in a European Europe.

Because I don't worship a kike.

What if I don't believe in any of your superstitions and just want something piratical

Semite religions are shit get over it.

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Because Christianity is a scam.

Interesting and I agree. If one wishes to follow Christianity or Traditionalism (Guenon or Evola) then one should choose Orthodoxy. If one wishes to be an atheist Nietzsche and Spengler are best.


What, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew!?! You must be joking, most of us know that he is an infiltrator and his "leadership" is very limited in what it can do. Christ is the Head of our Church.


lol

Dishonest outsider, the best summary of what a Cuckstian is.

Daily reminder:
JIDF creates and or hijacks these threads for the sole purpose of D&C and pretends to play both sides.

Its easy to tell who is a shill and who actually has some knowledge and interesting input. You must be a newfag if you can't.

Yeah true (((Christians))) made extra sure to get rid of the noses. Sure thing kike

These posters are so fucking obvious.

Ty for your knowledge and interesting input definitely not autismo sperging

Don't defile Traditionalism by associating it with worshiping a foreigner. Traditionalism is "Paganism." Find the stories your ancestors told before being forced at the point of a sword to swear to a foreign religion while the priests were all slaughtered, study their culture and way of life, then model your own life after theirs. That is Traditionalism. Not becoming a race traitor by worshiping a member of another race and supplanting one's own traditions with the traditions of another race.

If this were true, he would not be the head of the Orthodoxy. Most of you are completely at ease with being race traitors following the words of another race traitor.

Your welcome!


Orthodoxy is clearly the Tradition that was delivered to the West.

Christ is the head of Orthodoxy. You don't know what you are talking about.

There is nothing to divide. Christians are an enemy

Pagans and atheists are the enemy of the White man

Can someone please explain the "jesus === frog" thing?

its le funny "kek" meme

No, Jews are you filthy kike. You know there are videos, webpages and pictures of atheists and pagans that have shitskins and promote degneracy in their ranks as well? Your D&C is low-grade and pathetic.

It's always been the right wing (natural order) vs the left wing (Marxists, chaos) regardless of where they infiltrate.

There is no head of the Orthodox Church other than Christ as has already been said. You're talking about Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople. His title of First among equals is purely honorary and carries no real weight. His Church is also tiny. He has no jurisdiction over other Churches and his meeting with the Pope wasn't received well by other Churches because he pretended to be acting in some official capacity on behalf of all Orthodoxy. You should stop posting untruths because you're just embarrassing yourself.

Why?


Oh wow feeding rapefuges. Let me know when they are housing them and using there political connections to get them visas

pisstianity is and stays a kike religion.
some goes with kike ideologies like communism and other.

what benefits the kike is bad for everyone else

Oh no you moved the goalposts! Typical of a kike.

Guess you think supporting rapefugees is good then right Chaim?

You're late to the party Shlomo. -1 shekel

Pagans want to destroy European civilisation and try and recreate an idealised tribal past.

Atheists want to destroy European civilisation ad try and create an idealised utopian transhumanist future.

I saw that coming a mile away

Saw that from a Tel Aviv :^)

topkek

Those both sound better then what Christians want.

To destroy not only European civilizations but the very genetic make up of Europeans themselves

Fascism is preoccupied by the clothing (namely the forms of state organization), National-Socialism by the body (namely the racial eugenics), whereas Legionarism is preoccupied by something much deeper: by the soul (namely by its strengthening through the cultivation of Christian virtues and its preparation with final salvation in mind, salvation dealt with by the Christian Church in the most perfect fashion).

Because God isn't real.

Posts spics invoking Christ (even though they worship a woman) so they don't get deported back to Shitico. Lel +1 shekel for that

No Orthodox Christian wants to destroy European's genetic make up. Only heretics who are working for some sort of Earthly "paradise" do all this globalist stuff.


Actually He is real

Sorry I have trouble keeping all the different kinds of cucks straight.


So how about those visas


This is why nothing ever gets done.

there is no party without me

So telling the truth that Jesus was a kike is D&C now?

I dunno ask the leftists (aka Jew controlled) atheists, pagans and Christians that help feed and clothe them where they might be at :^)

You know a Jew made that right? Of course you do.

Nope, maybe thats just you. I do plenty irl

You just said you don't care about earthly things

He wasn't a kike. He wasn't even the same as the inbred "chosen" who exist today. The semites back then were more like based Assad

What are you a soulless, materialist, consumer? Good Jew.

Oh that's right, the original Indo-Aryans who were Adamites wrote and spoke in Hebrew. Lol.

if the bush talked to you some thousand years back, it was god
if the bush talked to you yesterday, you should visit a metal clinic

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No, Assad was the love child of some crusader crossbreeding with an ayrab. Moron.

No, I said I'm working according to God's teaching and not for some commie "utopia". A good society is a byproduct of mans journey to God.

Even communism works when men put God first: thearda.com/workingpapers/download/the economics of monasticism.pdf

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Chaimbach pls go away.

And modern "semites" are products of hundreds of years of arab rape. Modern "Jews" are products of hundreds of years of inbreeding

I also want a white Europe, so I guess we're on the same side.

This fucking /christian/ invasion makes me hate you christcucks more than jews.
>>>/christian/
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Jews and Ayrabs are both semites and share the same DNA. Ayrabs are slightly less inbred.

Shouldn't have come to a Christian board then Shlomo.

Why are you still a race-mixing Christcuck?

I'm not a christian and as you maybe have noticed (if you read my post at all) I advocate that we take the church - keep its outer appearance and dogma while taking out all the judaism and equality shit and then stuff in pagan and ancient thought into it. Quite literally a wolve in sheeps skin. The skin - the outer appearance of church etc - is what people are used to and what our ancestors have put incredible amout onf symbolic and artistic meaning into. This is how european religion would have looked like wether its a cross or a sunwheel.

Even the nazis who were pagans did try to do that- and don't tell me the nazis where christcucks or w/e
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity

If you realy think common people can all be atheist edgelords and not succum to petty nihilism you obviously don't know how 99% of normies think and why they behave the way they do. And maybe you're an outsider and realy believe "everyone else is dumb- I'm euphoric at the moment because …" But trust me- there will never be an atheist majority that isn't also cucked in some other way. Not everyone can be a Nietzchean- That is just not the path for everyone.

Well, worshiping a dead kike on a stick is a very anti-white thing to do.

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Arabs weren't in any large capacity outside of the Arabian peninsula until 600 AD do to Muhammad's war campaigns. Get rekt Shlomo, that's why (((ISIS))) is trying to destroy all physical knowledge of the past. White people should take the fertile crescent and middle east back.


Also

That's like some Pakistanis deciding they would reuse Latin as their religious language.

lel

This has to be an Holla Forums or summer child thread.

Like that one post long ago suggested, on order for us to win, all whites must work together.

The pagans, atheists and Christians. A trinity if Kek wills it.

It would make our cause much more legitimate, stronger and allow us to expose the true (((enemy))).

This is the only way.

when will this meme of Holla Forums being a cuckstian board fucking die.
Holla Forums is not a Christian board, it is a fucking politics board, take the religious shit to
>>>/christian/

This is Holla Forums christcucks.

The very first verse of the New Covenant reads: The book of the genealogy of Messiah Yeshua ("Jesus Christ"), the son of David, the son of Abraham (Matt. 1:1). Who were Abraham and David?
Abraham was the first Hebrew. God changed his name from Abram (Gen. 17:5). In Gen. 14:13 he is called Abram the Hebrew. So we can see that Yeshua (Jesus) is descended from "Abram the Hebrew."

According to the Bible, the Messiah must be descended from the tribe of Judah (Gen. 49:10) as King David was (1Sam. 17:12, 1Ch. 28:4) and descended from King David himself (2Sam. 7:12-13, Isa. 9:6-7, Jer. 23:5-6). That is why the Messiah is called Son of David (Matt. 21:9).

Yeshua (Jesus) is from the Tribe of Judah (Heb. 7:14).
In addition, Yeshua was born King of the Jews (Matt. 2:2). The King of the Jews must Himself be Jewish (Deut. 17:15). His aunt Elizabeth was Jewish (a descendant of Aaron, Moses' brother) and His uncle Zacharia was a Jewish priest (Luke 1:5, 36). Yeshua was circumcised according to Jewish law (Luke 2:21, Lev. 12:2-3), and redeemed according to Jewish law (Luke 2:22-23, Num. 18:15). His mother atoned according to Jewish law (Luke 2:24, Lev. 12:6-8). He is called The Consolation of Israel (Luke 2:25) and The Glory of Thy People Israel (Luke 2:32). Jesus was born a Jew.

In adult life, His disciples were Jews (John 1:47, Matt. 20:25-26) and they called Him 'Rabbi' (John 4:31). Mary called Him 'Rabboni' (John 20:16). They sought Him because they believed the Torah and the Prophets (John 1:45).

A Pharisee who had not yet come to faith in Him also addressed Yeshua as 'Rabbi' (John 3:2), as did a crowd of people (John 6:25). A Samaritan woman easily recognized He was a Jew (John 4:9). He taught in the Jewish Temple (Luke 21:37) and if He were not a Jew, His going into that part of the Temple would not have been allowed (Acts 21:28-30).

Jew, what is philosophy and the arts for 1000

Did your state sanctioned Pastor talk today about how great jews are and how we should be tolerant of other races?

Bad news for you m8, its not going to.

It will never happen.
Those fucking christcucks deserve what the Jews deserve.
Pagans and atheists, maybe.

An essential part of Jesus' supposed fulfillment of the OT prophecies is that he was a descendant of King David through Mary.

If Jesus is not biological Jewish royalty, the prophecy is wrong, he's a charlatan and he's not God. Paul understood this, and tried to prove to whoever disagreed in Acts. Why don't you? King of the Kikes, King of the Kikes.

Captcha: uj Qike

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Hebrews =/= Synagogue of Satan

Christians want to destroy European civilization and try and create an idealised theocracy.

Embrace Theistical Racialism, the only future.

Most prophecies are BS anyway, so what's your point?

WTF is Theistical Racialism?

It will have to happen for us to win.

Christianity would give us the numbers and wouldn't be hard to convince them of the old ways.

You'd have to be a deluded Christcuck to believe that these statements are accurate. True men know the power of a title.

Don't care about your dogma, I care about race. And everyone from Abraham to Moses to Jesus to fucking modern hollywood and Israel are the same blood, no matter if they accept some imaginary deity as their personal insurance policy or not.

No kikes, no semitic religion of any kind.

The Jews today aren't the "Jews"–which wasn't even a word in the past since the letter J (it's pronunciation) didn't even exist yet–then. JIDF already knows this but it hurts their fee fees too much. The fertile crescent was white land.

Holla Forums short for politics or politically incorrect.

Not very christian.

Christianity needs Jesus to be not only Jewish but super Jewish in order to exist as anything other than a shitty meme.

It seems you already understand that though, as I was responding to someone else.

What do you think I'm trying to do? Holla Forums would rather wait for Hitler though…


All human species have a common ancestor. What you're suggesting is like saying we should eradicate whites because blacks exist

You mean we would give Cuckstianity the numbers again, as their cult is currently in decline among White populations (growing strong with shitskins though).

Cuckstianity ends in this era along with the rest of the Semitic ideologies that have plagued us.

To be an Orthodox Christian is to be a counter-revolutionary. Being a counter-revolutionary is political. Legionarism is political

Can someone please redpill me on larp-atru vs larp-tianity?

Is Joseph Campbell right about all of it? If so, maybe it is best to just stick with the myths of your people after all

if you practice christanity, jews will claim you as a slave. your ancestors were conquered by a foreign kike religion or ideology.
by submitting to clitoristianity you submit to a kike god and the kike will.
europe was taken over after it accepted the christian social virus.
whereever jesus goes, kike wil follow….and then marx and mudhhamad.

still want spirituality? invent something own. something dynamic that doesnt benefit the kike


i personally would advocate for the removal of churches and mosques from europe and the rest of the world.

Kek wills it.

Racialism + God mate.

No, because whites have value. Christianity doesn't.

Here: oodegr.co/english/filosofia/nihilism_root_modern_age.htm

Now go and redpill yourself

You found the right answer

Really?


Anyway, I think your missing the point, I didn't say there is no place for Christians here, just that CHristianity is not synonymous with politics.

hohoho you know where the nickname "kike" comes from right? Derails your argument a bit m8


nice assertion, but demonstrably false


Orthodoxy is our Tradition


topkek pick one m8

sorry moishe, not everybody on this board wants to worship rabbi yeshua shekelsteinbergblattowitz

Really, so you are saying that before Jesus walked the earth, there wheren't other religions and governments, not based on the Christian religion.

Is that your claim?

Because I'm not a slave and westerners trying to co-opt someone else's religion and turn it into american christian fundamentalism is pathetic. Fix your own church you fucking rat.

nice heresy you got there, ivan.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Fátima

yes, when jews immigrated to usa they refused to sign documents with crosses, instead they used circles.

to get back on track

if the donkey took a shit. he rejected the shit.
now the shit live on on its own, yet its still the donkleys shit.
we call the donkeys shit "christianity
and by smearing your face with donkeys shit you will become a real chsitian.

No. Only if you take circumcision that happens - according to St. Paul. Looking at USA, though…

is there a contest for Most Pozzed Religion of the century? Christianity will take that award easily

After? Indeed, long after it passed. This invasion also happens after Roman and Greek values were reintroduced to Europe at large, but most notably, it happened after cancerous humanist ideas like Noble savage and revolution worship happened, two brutal world wars devastated the minds of entire generations and psychology was used to mass produce identities via media and public education.
Europe was not invaded before that. Unless you speak of Russia as Europe…

Wicca, New age, scientology, mormonism, various cults, satanists, fucking masons etc.

I don't think you understand what Humanism is exactly, perhaps a better term would be Jacobinism.

Let's look at this clearly, on average atleast 70% of a Western nations identifies as Christians and rarely does it drop below 50%, does it make sense to blame a few cults, that not even 5% of the population of the West follows for all our problems?

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The Russian orthodox church has stated it is closers to Islam then catholicism

This is true, whether it was "officially stated" or not.

Human centered ideologies, values and beliefs. {Human interest} was to be prioritized over tradition, loyalty, faith… And of course it spawned these beauties, be it SJWs or jacobines…


Everybody goes through the same schooling, everybody starts repeating the same lies. They have changed the church from within because they were born into the institution, just as they have changed the nations because they have been born to the nations… There is only one problem in our countries and it is the lack of truth.
What is your solution to this issue? A fringe church of kek that, even if succesful, would be

the majority identifies as Christian, seriously you guys should get in touch more with your pagan roots than some pozzed religion

citadelfoundations.blogspot.com/2016/06/deconstructing-maoist-jesus.html?m=1

It has as much to do with my descent as Anglicanism does. It may have been there, sure, but all forms of Christianity are not in my blood, nor in the blood of anyone of Europe or the European diaspora.

Was it a European man that spoke the parables and sermons in the Gospels, or was it a Jew taught in a certain Jewish tradition?

Because our ideologies should be centered not on humans, but on animals….

Look, there are thousands of churches and thousands of intellectual figures within those churches, but with a few exception they all promote open-immigration and racemixing.

That is not a corruption, that is a feature.

>What is your solution to this issue? A fringe church of kek that, even if succesful, would be

We should all embrace the hippie era paganism movement
.t (((Holla Forums)))


Paganism was invented to be a replacement to Christianity by SPLC/ADL Etc. They always try to get the
skin head actors to constantly shill paganism. I agree that there are some people who actually believe in
paganism and those people are complete idiots just like the atheists on reddit.

You guys are creating yet another identity cult to wage war in the D/C sea of Rainpoz flags.
I don't hate my pagan roots, I hate pagan tools who think it is the solution here.

Pagan roots? your ancestors gave up on paganism in favor of Christianity.
Christianity has been the voice to the common people for over a thousand years in Europe.
Christianity has done more to uplift the European spirit and mind then any other religion in the world.
There is a reason as China becomes a super power they have started to adopt Christianity.
Those slanty eyed jews know whats up

They where killed and persecuted, you know, crusades 'n shieet.
Yes, and also the voice of every tyrant and dictator.
Ignoring the Greeks and Enlightenment
Really, they didn't need Christianity before to be a superpower.
Yes, Jews…..

Oh, pagan roots as in traditions older than Christian influences. However, it means midsummer bonfire, sauna, comfy feelings towards certain landscapes etc.
Christianity means that it no longer includes blood vengeance, for example…

Indeed, but the crusades that hit here hit our Orthodox brethren harder. But it is time for you to go make an anti-napoleon thread since ideological conquest is so horrible.
Christianity by no means ignores the Greeks. Gospels even use Logos to define Christ…
I hope it dies the way it was born.
Monarchies are better than republics in nearly every way. Republics are the way jews want Europe to go, so that their media and monetary control will be on firm ground (>2 opposing but same sides).

Or ethnotentrism or the will to power. And also that it includes universalism, proselytism, tolerance, slave morality and acceptance of miscgenation.

Sweden did that, still does. No religion needed.
So, who was the Nietzsche of ancient Finns?

Because I cannot in good conscience follow a religion that has the Jewish old testament within its holy canon. I know that the old testament is wrong and cannot adhere to a religion that takes these Jewish lies seriously.

No, never said that.

Wow, yeah, because using a language, means your totally with the culture and philosophy.

Also, implying that is Christian is origin.

You mean by White men throwing off the shackles of a semitic religion, to use reason and intelligence, to discover the rules behind God's universe?

Really, in what ways exactly.

I don't understand. In this thread i see pagans telling me that Christianity is bad because its cucked
Now you're telling me Christianity is bad because it oppressed pagans?

I understand you are simply attacking to provoke anti Christian feeling from people
but you must have the honestly to tell me if you prefer Christianity to be a religion that oppresses those that do not follow it or a religion that permits all other religions to exist.

that being said Christianity came to power because it was stronger then paganism and it has taken over half of the world. It is the religion of the European people and will continue to be no matter how much you watch vikings and fall for skin head memes friend. The alt right has been taken over by: homosexuals, atheists, pagans and will crumble just like gamer gate did last year.

The only way forward for Europe is the Christian Church and you will realize this before it is too late because the Church will always be there for you.

Another reason Christianity is gay.

Christianity didn't take over half the world europeans did you christcuck nigger faggot

Promoting assimilation is racial treason. Kill yourself.

Our ancestors were neither what the Christian calls "Pagan", nor what the "Pagan" calls Christian. Both Paganism and Christianity are false doctrines, Paganism being an outright heresy to the invisible church of our blood.

Hehe.

It's because Christianity promotes a passive-agressive mentality and a mentality of victimhood. That causes some people to bend over and take it, while others agressively lash out.

Psychology 101.

So, when the Jews take over, it means the Jews are stronger and we should all bend to their will, because the basis of truth = "might makes right"?

Are you implying Christianity spread because of empty words, that people were becoming martyrs for 'seemingly similar words'? The Greeks didn't know the Logos of man.. Christianity offered the solution to this issue, which is why it spread so well. Platonic thought influenced Christianity greatly, and later on Aristotle.

Lol

This. Where are the derailments or shills at meme magick threads?

No, at the end of the day I agree with Spengler, the words might be the name, but a foreign people gave them a new meaning.

For a racist, you know your races poorly.

You mean that which the Romans were guilty of before Christianity took foothold?

AH!

So you admit you are no better then the Romans!

Social justice crap actually comes from a Jewish strain of postmodernism, which is a rebellion against the enlightenment.

Real enlightenment acknowledges scientific realities such as differences in race and sex. Enlightenment does not deny reality to suit the feelings of moralfags like Christianity and social justice do (Jesus was one of the original social justice warrior btw).

As decadent as old Rome, yes.

But we're going to Make Christianity Great Again!

Because I'm not a slav. Why would I be a nationalist for what may as well be an alien culture?

Again?

When was it ever great? When did it ever promote Racial Awareness?

Is there even a Christian law against racemixing?

Hard to tell with shitty Christian art. Good thing the pagan Renaissance brought back classical knowledge of depth and proportion despite condemnation from christcucks so we could finally have good art again after centuries of Judeo-Christcuck flat awful shit.

I would join an Orthodox church if there were one near me in a language I understand, but funnily enough not that many English/German orthodox churches

This, our culture values homosexuality, multi racialism, feminism, atheism, and the rights of the (((oppressed))) to sue anyone they do not like.

Also slavs have Christianity but as this thread shows us we are not Christians because reasons….Too bad that one thing(Christianity) no longer unifies us…oh well…

The introduction of Orthodox Christianity, would basically mean a war against art, one more reason never to become Orthodox.

Christianity encourages race mixing.

"There is no nigger or spic. There is only one race, the human race."– Rabbi Jesus

The only thing Christianity unifies you with is billions of niggers.

Not if you consider Christ the Jungian/Chestertonian primordial Myth embodied, and all traditions leading separately to God through Christ

Kill yourself, nigger-lover.

I would like to file an compliant against this employe, I cant really make
any arguments against him due to them all being inane garbage.

Technically it isn't entirely alien, St. Patrick for instance is venerated as an orthodox saint, that is if you're Irish.

Orthodoxy allows for a degree of regional autonomy.


Spain, where we get the term sangre azul
There have been plenty of historical Christian nations with laws against it.


That's St. Paul paraphrased, and taken out of context, Christ and Paul specifically spoke of the divisions of nations (race) and kingdoms.

What does that even mean, why does that mean he somehow does not promote racemixing?

Hahaha, how do you expect anyone here to take this literal faggot seriously?

Sangre azul is not a racial term, it's not condified within Christianity, Spain created mongrel south america.

Evidence?

Also, uhm, laws with an origin in Germanic or Roman law practises, obviously do not count.

Too bad that one thing(((Christianity))) no longer unifies us…oh vey…

haim, its time to take a nap from all that trolling

Because then there is no need for a single orthodox faith. All traditions lead to God, insofar as one realises the ultimate unity of all things, and the interdependency of the ephemeral and the eternal, the mundane and the divine.

I guess another way you could think of this idea is Vedic Christianity

Classic Christcuck. You don't argue against facts because you can't argue against facts. And the facts are that Christfaggotry is a Jew-spawned religion that is majority non-white and promotes universal brotherhood beyond racial borders. It is an anti-white religion.

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Or Sufi Christianity, or Masonic Christianity.

There are large differences between the different religious traditions, they don't all speak about the same thing, therefor you don't have any basis to claim all traditions lead to god.

Kill yourself

No, they don't talk about the division of them. They talk about the unity of them.

Can we go back to talking about Orthodoxy instead of arguing with alt-right faggots?

Bitch but I do


Contradictions matter within any closed system, but all closed systems are subordinate to the ultimate closed system, which is creation

Open your third eye faggot you're pretty much religiously retarded

And according to your Jewish religion, that was Jesus/holy-spirit speaking through the lying kike Saul of Tarsus.

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New age bullshit.

wow, so smart, backed in a corner are we?

take it back to /christfaggotry/

I was waiting for one of these rabbis to start sucking blood from a baby's penis, but then I finally realized it was a Judeo-Christian ceremony. Hard to tell the difference sometimes.

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The opposite of new age bullshit is going to worship and living a tradition as part of a community, which is something I probably do more than you


Cuck out with your mass produced religion and your Christ will die a second death. And he will have deserved to.

PS: eat AIDS sperm

Acts 17:26 (stress on the second half: bounds of habitation)

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Yes, alll traditions lead to God, because AIDs.

for

Fuck off Guenon fag. You idiots are the fucking worst.

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This whole thread is shilling 101.
Fact no. 1: Jews hate Christ.
Fact no. 2: Orthodoxy is militant and active. Catholics are fuck heretics formed after feminist Peter.
Fact no. 3: pagan shit was left behind long ago because it was shit.
Fact no. 4: Vikings got to form Russia and they became orthodox.
Regarding no. 3 paganism is a chaos of deities, rituals and witchcraft that sap the life out of men and women, leaving behind an empty shell resembling the liberal of today.

One race, the human race! And this says nothing about whether people should have borders or not, just that God decides them. Maybe he decided it is time for no borders? Could easily be argued by Christcucks (and I am sure it is).

Yeah I care about earthly things, like government.

Of all the renditions of the Palestinalied, why do christcucks keep posting the one that has nothing to do with christcuckery or the crusades, but is actually a song about eating?
I mean, the lyrics are in fucking Latin. Surely that alone should be a sign that something is off.

This … explains a lot, actually.

Fact no. 5: whatever came after the invasions is newer than Christianity.
Fact no. 6: morality is not subjective nor relative, it is absolute.
Fact no. 7: unity as described by the true church is unity in faith and nothing more. Everything other than faith is worldly therefore corrupted.
Fact no. 8: the degeneration of our time began when the priesthood became corrupted. I wonder by whom.

Yes, all those great philosophers of the ancient world where all empty shells.

Race predates Christianity.

noice wun


such autism shall never be seen again


go ride a dinosaur, fundy

He's not talking about philosophers, think more like the Attis-Cybele cult (which involved ecstatic ritual castration for the initiate)

I know!

back again to defend your sandnigger religion moishe?

Sure, whipping and starving yourself in the name of the lord is much much better.

Race predates Christianity you fucking mongrels. You came to Europe after Christianity. Apart from 3-4 places with a small population of pure race in Europe you are fucking mongrels.
Hell, you find excuses to call latins non white, yet to most inbred, the most cucked and the weakest of them all are the Germans. Now go fuck yourself with an Irish cross.

I don't really understand why Christians need to make arguments when the people who are against Christianity all sound like drooling retards.

Morality is subjective on the practical level. Even assuming there is an absolute morality, it is unknowable (otherwise everyone would agree on it).

It is impossible to even know if morality is real or not. Individual people just choose to believe one thing or another based on their feelings. Some choose to believe that Jewish fairy tales are literally true and that ancient Hebrews were the light to the nations delivering the divine law. We call these people cuckolds.

Shills bring accusations and no arguments. Fuck off Jew. Christ haters to the oven !

Wow, this is complete insanity, I was born in Europe.

With what exactly, blacks, arabs, asians, I think not.

I see, butthurt mongrel. I am waiting for hispanics to invent all the technology and knowledge the Germans invented.

Morality comes from an anchor of faith which is universal.
Subjectivism thus becomes corruption.

Daily reminder that christianity despises natural order and European heritage, tradition and culture and even today, shits on it at every opportunity.

Daily reminder that christianity continues today to destroy our blood by embracing non-white immigration.

Daily reminder that christianity IS liberalism.

semites hate another semite, this is nothing fucking new, shlomo. now go help those poor rapefugees at your church why don't you? after all, you are all one in yeshua shekelsteinbergblattowitz :^)

I'd rather not win that have christians win, at this point, all due to the constant christian railing against atheists more than they rail against jews.
I don't know if it's Holla Forums or JIDF's making but at this point, I'd rather the planet is ruined rather than christians take power.
At least jews keep christians from gaining power and at least they pay salaries.
Christians made the Dark Ages for 1000 years, jews made modern capitalism.
Life in the latter is much better.

Lol, so it's true.

Why don't you try telling your priest that you believe Christianity and Islam to be essentially the same and that any religious tradition is valid (as long as it was one of the ones some autistic French pedophile from the early 20th century wrote about)? I am sure they will agree with you, kek. Pope Francis and the second vatican Jews sure do agree.

Myth, invented by protestant Christians to discredit Catholicism.

So who did the Dark Ages, atheists and pagans?
Kys

Muslims.

This is false. You are just using vague language like "anchor of faith" to handwave your bullshit and distract from the reality that morality cannot be known and only comes from subjective feeling.

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Alright, I assume you have an argument why I am wrong?

As far as I'm concerned being born in Europe does not make you European. European means to be a part of something more than your football team fanclub.

I piss on the Germans, they are immense faggots.
I see the Spaniards conquering nearly all of the world and even ruling the HRE.
I see the French giving war a new meaning. I see the British rule the fucking world. I see the Romanians, the Polish and the Serbs removing kebab. Hell even the Russians.
And then come the mongrel Germans, allies with kebab wanting everyone's toys like some spoiled brats killing off the best European generation.
Fuck you and fuck your race. You are the traitors of everything that is white. Shit german imposters.

the onus is on you

Right, mongrels…..

Mongrels with what, other White people?

I see, no arguments why I am wrong.

This is an Orthodoxy thread Jew. No God fearing man will betray his own and allow invaders in.

There are Orthodox Christmas carols that literally name "the yids" and their disrespect for Christ. Children used to sing these, out loud, in groups while out caroling, every Christmas. This is what you want to burn down, niglet?

Weird, since that is what the Orthodox are promoting!!

fasting to bring about ASC

Why do they hate the Jews, on racial grounds, on religious grounds, on cultural grounds?

No, on purely sectarian grounds.

A number of non-religious factors such as the collapse of the Roman Empire, climate change and invasion by Central Asian nomads causing population movements.

Alright, blood letting, wearing hair shirts, living in dirt and shit, rejecting all human contact, cutting yourself etc…

See, this is what pisses people off. I don't think Christians should be banned or their threads stopped or anything, discussion of religion and its history and purpose is very important if you care about race.

But you fuckers see this place as your turf, rather than as people sharing their opinions. Pagans don't do that. Atheists don't do that.

What the hell are you smoking? Did a German run over your dog or something?

you kikestians are all the same, going on and on about yahweh and yeshua, why don't you worship your own race instead of a foreign prophet?

Retarded like every christcuck.
Christianity didn't destroy Rome, it destroyed Europe for 1000 years from 500 CE to almost 1600 CE when the Enlightenment came along, which, surprise surprise, was the most (and only) anti-religion movement of the last 1000 years.

Not true. KGB agent Patriarch Kirill has promoted Islamic immigration to Russia and Europe.

Source your claim Jew !

you know there is a website called reddit.
that website has a giant atheist community that shits all over Christians

An inheritance from Roman physicians (Galen)
dunno
like yogis and shamans, an overcoming of nature (cupidity)
not christian

You are the perfect example of a shill.
Bringing up jewish features that Jews managed to convince the heretics in believing.
Reminder that Jews hate Christ.

strange how these pagans and atheists hate Christianity as much as the jewish

Europe had surpassed Rome by the 10th century, don't believe the entippenment meme.

I would like to, but I can't find the news article, so I ask people to deliver proof of Orthodox supporting mass-immigration.

Right, it's a kgb agent.

I'm agnostic no clue what the majority of u fucks are even talking about nor do i see the reason for it. But this entire thread has been a pissing contest without as much as even reaching a single point.


I can't even tell who's jewing who here.
Pagans exerting liberal retardation.
Christians exerting liberal retardation.
Atheists exerting liberal retardation.


This just reaffirmed to me that religions whatever it is, has always been a control mechanism of the masses. This just made me more thank full i was born into a family that's doesn't believe this bullshit, are free thinkers and i didn't have to suffer the genital mutilation.

Weird, then why did Christians practise it?

So much this.
And of course the main centres of learning were destroyed by the barbarians.

This isn't Reddit, this is a completely different community. If you have issues with atheists, start a thread or threads about those issues. Many of us, including ones who regard themselves as atheists, would probably agree with a lot of what you have to say.

Based on what criteria? Please provide a source.

To be fair pretty much all of Christendom was antisemitic back in the day (as it should be). They'd stick caricatures of Jews eating pig shit up on Catholic churches.

Yes, cuckstianity is a bigger threat than jews.
Jews create a parasitical economic system where, if you jew as hard as them, you get rich.
Christians create a a primitive society where no one gets to the top, as they've done from 500-1600 CE where priests and the Church held most of the political and social power.

Any religion on this earth can hate Christians.

Embrace Theistic Racialism!

Funny, this is exactly what the leftists say.

Because I'm not a faggot.

And that is the problem. As long as a Jew says he loves Jesus, they welcome him. And a Jew would never lie, would he?

Christcucks have facilitated the pollution of the European genotype with Semitic Jew genes for hundreds of years. They have doomed many innocent European children to be born as 1/4 or 1/8 Jews because they believe it is their duty to convert kikes to their religion. Can you imagine being born 1/8 subhuman? Knowing you have the enemy's blood in your veins? It would be torture. But Christcucks don't care about the suffering of their own children. They are too busy sending billions of dollars to starving nigger children in Apefrica.

Tip harder faggot.
If not for true Christianity you'd all be sucking Mongol and nigger cock while praising allah

Because all religions are fake gay retarded illogical debunked boring barbaric and all of you are fucking retarded useful idiots who will pay for believing this a legitimate election and being the propaganda department/wrong think police for an old dude who literally wants nothing but power over you. Everyone over 50 has got to go. You created hell for so many people and now it's time to reap what you fucking sow.

Implying the left isn't a seculiar form of Christianity.

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A large number here are actually Christians.

Enjoying your victim mentality?

This is about Orthodoxy you retarded fuck.
Catholics and their lot are all heretics.

If not for true cuckstianity, we'd all be living on Mars and we'd be having lifestyles like the rich in Elysium.

I know the medieval flagellants were condemned as a heresy…

Jews were always a privileged minority in Christendom. They were the only non-Christian religion that was allowed, and they were granted special protections by the Pope and the Catholic Church.

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They were also granted special privileges in money-lending, which made them extremely wealthy. Christians could not lend money at interest to other Christians, but Jews could.

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That is interesting, by every Christian church, or just your version of Christianity?

You know your church is packed with KGB yet this doesn't fase you. You know the KGB feels it is good to promote this religion, yet you don't believe this is at all suspicious?

No wonder christfaggotry is such a joke. It turns it's adherents into childish brain-dead retards.

Not Christian.

the kikes also hate muhammed, so what's your point?
hell, hitler even thought that islam was a better fit for germany than kikestianity

Everyone who benefits from this evil system is going to pay. You are all being played like the Virgin faggot loser fools that you are. What the duck kind of MAN let's the people who raped the world for fucking years come in and say "the world is broken! Somebody needs to fix this! That somebody is me. Anyone who tries to fight my regime will be killed!"

Literally no different from Jerry Sandusky being a therapist for his victims. Get it to fucking gether you stupid pussies. It's time to go Full Fight Club and rid the world of scum.

Controlled fucking opposition. Get it through your thick fucking skull. I already spit in my masters face. I fear fucking nothing. Get on my level and join the REAL WORLD ORDER or prepare to fucking die.

There is no reason to believe that Islam would even exist if not for Christianity.

There would have been no incentive to build a religion based on Judaism if Christianity was not the dominant religion in the Middle East at the time of Muhammad.

Muhammad created his own variant on the Jew holy books, while making himself the most important prophet.

I think we can look at it another way too. Cuckstians killed more Europeans and destroyed more European holy places than Muslims ever have.

Are you claiming that Orthodox do not convert Jews?

Are you claiming that Orthodox does not contribute to the overpopulation of niggers?

Both of these are obviously false.

that's a funny picture, but it seems to me that atheists are the one who are scared of believing in God. Being judged justly is a lot scarier than existential dread. So atheism are cowards scared of facing judgments and Christians live a much harder life that is righteous.

they had a lot more power in pagan Rome and they even convinced Nordic pagans to attack Christians. It seems to me they had the least Power under the Catholic church while after the Protestant heretics they had free reign.

Funny how both public education and pagan atheists praise the Enlightenment, they must masturbate to France sending ships to its colonies to get the black slaves to kill the evil white Christian Masters.

Correct.

Christians today, like the good goyim they are, believe the Jewish persecution lies. "Oy vey we were poisecuted trough the centuries in Europe." Bullshit! Jews lived comfortably and enjoyed many privileges under Christian Europe. The church protected the Jews.

except 100% of atheists were christtards (like you) before becoming atheists

REMINDER TO REPORT EVERY KIKE, (((PAGAN))) AND ATHEISTS

Paganism will never be restored and it's a Jewish mind-control to promote "europeanism".

Atheism is narcissistic degeneracy.

Your holy book says that the Earth isn't even 10,000 years old. This, alone, should be enough to convince you that the entire religion is a bunch of bullshit.

Christianity just teaches White men that things happen for no reason other than the whim of a sky wizard.

Why does the KGB feel it is in their interest to promote this religion? Obviously it serves a purpose for them, probably because of the similarity of Bolshevism to the teachings of rabbi Jesus (approved by the ADL and KGB).

also, the

yes shlomo we all know you hate people for wanting to promote their culture and not your kikeified version of stoicism

Your (((culture))) is just fiction, no miracles ever happened in that fake religion. Besides paganism is a modern invention, history was rewritten, it never existed in real life.


Daily reminder that God can't be a kike because he's literally God.

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its like i'm on loop.
Can you get a new script or something?
You faggots have been posting the same thing over and over for the past two years.

CHRISTIAN LOGIC AT ITS FINEST

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Correct. Without Christianity, Islam would never have existed. And Judaism would have died out long ago.

Christianity is the pillar supporting the entire abrahamic pile of shit.

Also, mods didn't delete this.
We /christian/ now.

(((logic)))

not even a pagan moishe, your jewish religion did not make Europe, it was europeans who built europe

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The go fucking convert to Islam and bring more of your brothers here!
Reminder that the Germans are so the main shills for the Jew.

Cite the passage in the NT where Christ says יהוה and not πατήρ

You use "it seems to me" a lot instead of presenting an argument. The claim was that all of Christendom was anti-semitic, and then I pointed out that Jews were a privileged minority in due to the Church, certainly in a way that pagan Europeans were not.

You can dance around that all that you want, but you have to present evidence for your claims, as I did for mine.

Civilization was started at all because of the principles underlying "paganism," and since the cultural hegemony of Semites we have witnessed nothing but degradation.
But your Semitic fairy tales are all true, because some Semites wrote about it and others taught your illiterate ancestors it was not only true but also justified murdering any of their countrymen who refused to believe in Semitic fairy tales.

There is no room for Semites in a European heart and thus no room for Cuckstianity in Europe. All Christcucks are race traitors.

pagans really do have no self-awareness

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Maybe if you believe homosexuality and lawlessness should be permitted. Christianity brought order to Europe.

ok shlomo

Sort of true. Christianity did create this modern atheism. People could see that Christianity is retarded, so naturally they rebelled and went little overboard throwing out the baby with the bath water. If Christianity had been more realistic and less dumb stupid and retarded, then people might not have gone full atheism. It is also because Christcucks create this false dichotomy of either being atheist or being a christfag like them, when really there are an indefinite number of possibilities outside of Judeo-Christianity and atheism.

Jews as a whole were as wealthy as the lower nobility. Jews have to be the most narcissistic people in history to see their persecution everywhere.


The latter reference [5] is from Roth, N. (2002). Medieval Jewish Civilization: An Encyclopedia. Routledge Encyclopedias of the Middle Ages 7. London: Routledge. ISBN 0415937124.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_Jew

What kind of person hates Christians this much?

A priest will tell you what's in his vested interests to tell you. Being grown-up is realising that.

Kill yourself kike.

The spirituality of those to forge civilization where before there was nothing but wandering is certainly better than slavery to Semites and the rejection of truth.


Cuckstianity brought nothing besides Jews to Europe. Everything which has ever been great about Europe is inherent to its people, and thus why there is no need for foreign religions.

this fucking shit again
homosexuals were drowned in bogs during pagan times and were generally hated, plus pedastary only happened in certain city states of greece

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Gee, I wonder why anyone would hate Christians.

I'm not surprised, the combined forces of destroyed family, terrible educational system meant to demoralize and Protestants or lukewarm Catholics will destroy most seed of truth and reality.

I was agnostic/atheist before being Christian,, it's the hardest thing I'm doing.


yes, because humans are so rational when they can't even prove reality exists. You've made countless assumptions by posting that yet one more on my part, that isbacked by internal evidence and external evidence,, triggers you? It seems to me that you are triggered because you realize God is real and you are to prideful to change your immoral behaviour so you go to the complete opposite and start attacking Christianity.

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mate, religion wasn't created for man. You follow the true religion, you aren't supposed to worship false gods which don't even exist.

"europeanism" it's just a kike term created by retarded people who think everything should be european. You have to follow what's best for society, guns were from China for example.

No, a priest will tell you the dogma of the religion he adheres to and that you stand outside of it. He will tell you that "Vedic Christianity" is heresy and not Orthodox and that you must repent and stop following the teachings of a degenerate 20th century race mixing French Islamic child molester.

Because you are lying to yourself and tryint to become delusional and schizophrenic, like all christtards are.

the special snowflake of one group of people is no better than the special snowflake of another. Our goal should be to seek truth regardless

Are you actually claiming that Rome was in disorder before Constantine? I hate to break it to you, but the advent of Christianity is very closely associated with the decay of the Roman empire.

Early Christians (like Saul of Tarsus) were social agitators.

this is true.

So tell me pagans. Should Christians attack non Christians or should Christians accept non Christians?

Please tell me because you seem to be attacking Christians no matter what they do.

Do you even English nigger?
Also, the
CHRISTTARD LOGIC AT ITS BEST

But Christianity is a false religion. Everything in the Bible is either a lie or a gross exaggeration.

catch-22, now shut up and take it up the ass goy

they are literally retarded people.

"Europeans will be pagan again"

you can't. Odin never made a miracle, there's a reason because of why christianity expanded.

nice arguments

Christians who sponsor niggers while simultaneously attacking white nationalists are horrible people, you dope.

Egalitarian nonsense.

Just stop lying about your religion. Accept the fact that even if you believe that Christianity is true from a religious perspective, you have a lot to answer for in the destruction of the West.

Christianity expanded for the same reason communism expanded. Because it appealed to the masses and promised to improve their conditions (the meek shall inherit the earth etc. all people are equal etc.).

never implied that shit. I said that one religion isn't any better than another if it's just another set of falsehoods.

It's not even a pretty religion. You can read stories about the Norse gods or Hindu gods or Greek gods, and it is all rich mythology.

Nobody will read the shitty New Testament unless you actually believe that Christ is some type of God.

Christians should fuck off back to the middle east with the rest of the semites where they belong.

Jesus was Marx and Saul of Tarsus was Trotsky.

But what everyone is actually saying is, "Europeans will worship foreigners no more." You just can't accept it because you are one of those worshiping a Semite. You are a slave to them and therefore obligated to defend their ideology.

But I'm sure you believe all of the fairy tales created about the mortal Semite Yeshua are true.

The "Pagan gods" that so many heretics worship were merely characters in a collection of fairy tales. They exist as much as Jesus, Yahweh or Allah do. There is a real God, who has revealed to us the things that allow us to build civilizations, the power to combat the Semites. His ritual is life, his sacrifice is our flesh, his hymns are the sounds of human suffering, struggling, and triumph.

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I don't see any Orthodox Christians doing any of that here
The alt-right seems to be full of faggots,atheists and pagans that kick Christians
out of alt-right events. I don't see why Christians should support these people if they refuse the traditional European Religion in favour of degenerates who fuck each others shit.
That being said Christians are the most nationalistic people I know.

Semites by and large rejected Christ in favor of a pedophile goat-fucker

Europeans could have done the same in the last thousands plus years, why didn't they?

Because Europeans have better genetics than dune coons.

Must be why Atheism is getting so big these days
You can enjoy all the degeneracy of the modern day without fear of hell fire
same with paganism as defined by the 1970s hippie movement

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tfw

Those images are not "here"
If you wish i can dig up images of pagans dancing around naked in the mud

Yeah, well I don't know where you are. Archbishop Iakovos stood out for marching with Martin Luther King when almost all other religious leaders would not.

So if anyone is American, there is exhibit A.

Kek, pick one nigger, you can't serve two masters, even your jew book says so.

When 10% of niggers are violent criminals, it's a problem with all niggers. When 99% of Christians are traitors and nigger-lovers, it's the 1% who aren't that define them.

Reminder that Christians adopted roman virtues to stop being Lawley semantic niggers. Reminder europe existed before Christianity

Mongols sweeped through Baghdad, leaving an ocean's worth of putrid blood to wet the sands. They pillaged the heart of the infection, where Persian and Arab magi studied Greek texts, attempting to create cruel weapons to torture and destroy more Europeans in the name of Allah. A vicious group of outlaws, violent warlords, and malformed murderers repelled the invasion long enough for European technology to advance past the levels of the Semitic-Aryan mongrels who had numbers on their side.

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99% of internet statistics are made up on the spot.

Yes, that is one of their implicit assumptions.

Another is to jump back and forth between the what the church believes and what the followers of the church believe. Many baptists from the South are quite racist, but their church is much less so.

To a Christcuck, they will give that credit to the church, when it is obvious that the church as a whole is opposed to the racism of many of their congregation.

Europe won't ever believe in Odinism or Zeusism again because it's incompatible with observation. One could tell himself that the mythology is all a bunch of metaphor and that the Gods aren't real, but it's hard to be a member of a religion that without taking it seriously.


The best thing for Europe would be a religion that is centered on racial realism. Creativity, invented by Ben Klassen, or Cosmotheism, invented by William Luther Pierce, are both built upon the idea that some mysterious Creative force has imbued living things with the will to organize and to struggle upwards into ever-higher levels of biological sophistication. The point is that these religions are entirely free of superstition like Christianity or any other Polytheistic system. Rather, they are world-outlooks, based on observation and designed for the preservation of our race. They require their adherents to unconsciously accept that racial preservation is necessary.

The one on the left is from reddit.

Here comes the anti-christian spammer.

Also reminder that both communists AND their lefty liberal offshoot hate christianity with a passion.

it is possible to hate the whole desert trilogy, Moishe

Communism considers all religions to be cancer, does this mean that Islam is fine too?

Fuck off back to /christian/ christcuck.

Orthodox Jews hate reform Jews, salafist hate moderate Islam, Protestants hate Catholics, and so on.

It is just arguing all within Jewish ideologies. All of these things are still Jewish, though.

Ya goy atheists are anti ALL religions…its just a coincidence that they're always operating in Christians nations against Christian traditions.

Not at all true. East asian nations like Japan and China are mostly atheist. The reason they are in "Christian" nations is because these are Europeans and have high IQs like Japanese, and atheism is related to high IQ.

Still sage because thought bumplocked still worthless thread.

you're right. Jewish people have higher IQs compared to white people and they steer what these white people do.
There is a reason why your common communist is a drooling idiot while the high ranking member is a sophisticated jewish elite.

Modern day it is better to steer these drooling idiots towards paganism and atheism to remove the natural defences of Christianity.
Once the slave mulatto class is created there will be no need for any more of these tricks as the population will be too stupid to rebel against who ever the leaders will be.

Half the Cuckstian world, which was what, Spain as far as Europe goes? The rest is shitskin land that only matters to those that worship Semites.

I don't give a shit about Muslims being barbarians in their own land, but I care quite a bit about a foreign religion that enters Europe, murders the priest caste, destroys holy sites, erases European culture, and now tries to claim to be some benevolent force of civilization. Cuckstianity is nothing more than Semitic trash, and all Christcucks are race traitors.

Absolutely not true, you have atheists in all nations around the world, the reason why there are more atheists in European nations is because Christianity lost a lot of its former power.
Still don't get what has this got to do with the fact that Communism considers all religions to be cancer. Communists were persecuting muslims in Iran as well. My point was that if Christianity is suppose to be good because Communism hates it, then by that logic, Islam is good too.
It's a dumb argument and you're dumb as fuck for not getting the point.

But being a Christcuck is associated with a lower IQ than being an atheist. Worshiping a Semite is THE control system. It just makes you a slave to them automatically, no further indoctrination required. There is a reason why your common Cuckstian is a drooling idiot while the high ranking members are rabbis. Atheists are just those too smart to buy into the Semitic fairy tales and too uncultured to embrace racialist spirituality. Of course, they would have been born into such a culture if Christcucks had not murdered the guardians of Europe's culture in order to replace them with rabbis.

This, strive for apotheosis. I am a hermeticist myself so creating belief systems is not an obstacle. It gives you a lot of flexibility and mental power.

The elite hates Christians much more, so they pay shills and useful idiots to hate us this much.

I wish.

Why? Because they shill for more rapefugees? The pope and other priests who give refuge to shitskins in their churches are acting like Sweden on steroids ffs.

No one will ever believe your stupid man-made religions, only the true god's religion will be followed.

Most of the history in the bible is even false, let alone the myths. The fucking gospels are four different versions of the same story with inconsistencies between them. Yeshua was nothing more than a mortal Semitic cult leader trying to subvert power from other Semites and the Romans with whom they had allied. The religion into which he was born is nothing more than the folk tales of disparate tribes of Semites shoved into a monotheistic framework in order to unite them in the absence of the Indo-Europeans who had ruled over a polytheistic Canaan. The Semitic religions are the definition of man-made religions. We know more about their very human origins than we do about any other religion because they have occupied positions of prominence among those that have been studied. There is simply no truth at the heart of Cuckstianity. If one considers how the weak turn to falsehood so easily, I can see how the true god of THE religion of falseness is the only one that would be followed though.

Nobody pays anyone to hate on christcucks, you are just extremely hatable simply by your way of existing.
Case in point: you blame hatred on pathetic christcucks like yourself not on behaviour and your thread title (redtext caps lock why aren't you a christcuck yet, on Holla Forums) but on "paid" people, as if anyone would spend money to hate on you worthless scumbags.

The pope is anti-christ, pro-gay, pro-multiculturalism, an avid humanist and egalitarian, he's said there are multiple paths to heaven. Who else is like this, certainly not other corrupt leaders following a Jewish, Marxist, Bolshevist, created agenda for the goys.

The majority of atheists are new-age, cocksucking, beta degenerates. Go to a Bernie rally for example or a gay pride rally, almost entirely atheist with some special snowflake pagans thrown in there.

Only Pharizees (read: Jews) deny that Christians are the most persecuted religious group in documented history.


Of course every religious group which holds it evident that there is a lot more than mere physical pleasure is seen by materialists as outsider.

And as always:
The elite consists of thirteen familiey. One of them is Rothschild, the richest and one of the least powerful, who pay for the huge anti-Christian campaigns. The most powerful is Astor, who invest heavily into mind control and, wait for it, memetics.
Slaves to the Thirteen don't need to get paid - they do it willingly. For free :^)

Not a bad religion.

But it undeniably has it's base in Judaism no matter how far it moves away.

No amount of mental gymnastics will change that Christianity is about a Jewish man from a sandy place.

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