Libertarian Philosophy

Libertarian Philosophy
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Well I'm a librarian.

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I like freedom

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What defense of libertarianism do you have that wouldnt be better served by removing government entirely?

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also, most libertarian society will be rural.

I just want low taxes, fun things to not be banned, and for big brother to mind his own damn business.

But for all these reasons wouldnt it be better to have no government?
We know what we give the government and inch they will take a marathon

First we must get rid of the big noses from the face of the earth. They infest and corrupt any society form.

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yes power corrupts apparently.

it should be decentralized to the smaller unit, the family, with emphasis on exchanging goods and services each family produces.

I plant grains and you make wood,we exchange …etc
each individual has control over their life.
a code must exist to prevent any attack on personal liberty of the individual and the collective of families.

You think this because you are unable to comprehend how many people can live near each other without trying to use violence to control each other's actions, despite the fact that that is actually the normal way people behave, and it is the governments that behave unnaturally.

jews are a manifestation of the monetary system and their hoarding mentality depends on it.
once we get rid of the monetary system we will strip them of their power.

Also we must work to secure every family with.
shelter,means of food production, means of energy production,a form of communication (a free internet) and telephony,clean water.

securing the family with important resources, and allowing them to trade the excess with other families for different things, I produce more energy than I need but not much food, you produce much food and less energy so we exchange…etc

after this is set up, poverty,monopoly,exploitation,violence,crime…etc will be a thing of the past

but it will be years till we set up this for everyone on the planet, blueprints and important resources must be given to the population by any means necessary, everyone needs to pool their resources to make this happen for everyone on the planet.
Which can prove tricky to execute.but still possible.

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OH BOY THIS THREAD *AGAIN*
TIME FOR SOME

//REAL// "LIBERTARAIN" CITIES

ADVANCED ARCHITECTURE !!!!! FREE COLLEGE !

GARBAGE BASED ECONOMY

WE USE HUMAN SHIT TO GROW OUR FOOD !! (PLEASE BUY MY BOOK)

YEAH MAN FREE INTERNET
(IM ADDICTED TO PORN AND ITS THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD SO I NEED THE INTERNET TO LIVE)
EVERYONE KNOWS IT DOSNT COST ANYTHING TO RUN THE MASSIVE 10KW+ SERVERS INTERNET SHOULD BE FREE!!!

CONGRATS YOU ARE A SUPER SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE!!! 99% OF THE POPULATION DOES *NOT* AGREE WITH YOU!!! :O
PLEASE IGNORE THE MAN THAT WAS JUST VOTED INTO OFFICE BY HALF THE COUNRY ON THESE BASES BECAUSE HE SAID MEAN THING LIKE PUSS !!! >: O

This nigga doin my job for me, Those filthy street pics are CERTAINLY libertarian sanctuaries. I bet you could go to one of those disgusting smelly back streets and actually pay for things in CASH!!! WITH NO TAXES!!!! : D

OR MAYBE EVEN BARTER WITH SILVER AND GOLD!!!!!

(COPYRIGHT 2008 LIBERTARIAN PARTY - ONLY IN A LIBERTARIAN CITY CAN THESE THINGS BE DONE!!! NO WHERE ELSE)

If im in my cardboard house in my libertarian city and im listening to loud music that my neighbor does not like (and he also lives in a cardboard house next to me) Am i violating his ear-NAP ??? can he murder me for this ??? PLEASE RESPONCE !

SERIOUSLY GUYS IF I KEEP BLARING - BONES - DEAD BATTERIES ON MY STERIO SYSTEM WILL I BE OK ?????

WHAT ARE DECENTRALIZED MESH NETS?

woah another nat-soc communist trash that does not understand a damn thing about libertarianism.
kill yourself mate

for America, shitlord libertarianism is the future
no gary johnson faggots or open borders retards

By the way, if you like capitalism but didn't vote Trump, you were retarded. Niggers and muslims aren't interested in small government, private property, and capitalism, the majority will always be communist race agitators or tribalist jihadis who would rather steal from you, libertarian, because you're probably a fucking white male. Doesn't matter how not racist you are, the majority either don't have the IQ or have some revenge to exact, they won't realize your hospitality.

Plus, 80% of immigrants vote democrat. Reagan granted amnesty to the hispanics in CA, but that just invited in shit tier beaners who made gangs, make "brown pride nation" with the nogs, smoke weed all day while voting to steal from whitey, fly their mexican flag above any other, and flipped CA from Republican to democrat. Open borders means death of libertarianism, at least until you can set up clear government rules resistant to changes torwards socialism.

But government doesnt really provide this. We, as a whole, do not infringe on other people's liberty because it is morally reprehensible to the reasonable person. The government, no matter how small, will never be better at protect you from the morally corrupt than yourself. If you are armed then pulling a trigger will always be faster than calling for police.
We should remember that the government is also very good at codifying systematic infringements of your liberty. Taxes, drug laws, speed limits to name a few.
The endless federal regulations to name a few more.
Government can never limit itself because it is formed with the implication that the only thing limiting itself is indeed itself.
We can't expect something that holds power above men to limit itself can we?

Latency traps

You can't have a city without people working together.

This is what lolspergs actually beleive

Libertarianism is literally just anarchism for hipster neets and is one of the many faggy banes of society today.

I voted for the memelord, retard.

Just because I'm libertarian leaning doesn't mean I support Aleppo Man.

And there's a big difference between anarchism and libertarianism.

I believe there's a role that the state must play, but that it should be minimal.

What is that role and why do you defend it?

The role is to protect the nation's citizens and their individual liberties.

No, it's because every non-degenerate ancap and most of the libertarians I have known have been rural, and rural people are the most used to not resorting to higher authorities in general.

If you are a libertarian and arent the heir to hundreds of millions

Arent an entrepreneur pulling a few mil a year

You are objectively retarded

You think youre edgy because you read a couple online articles. Youre obviously not well educated. If you like succing off the Koch companies, Jew conglomerates, billionaire children who inherit daddies big bux (Trump etc.) then yea, vote libertarian.

Because private corps have the countries best interest in mind right?

You are so fuccing brainwashed its painful. You actually believe this philosophy benefits anythign but the top of the pyramid. Beyond retarded. Truly.

Cry harder CTR!!!

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But Donald Trump hasn't died yet so his kids haven't inherited shit so far.

Wherein every minute is punctuated with the sound of a gunshot from someone correcting a violation of the NAP?

Have CTR accusations replaced JIDF as the thing people say when they don't have an argument?
Must be hard having a low IQ

you sure love big government shoving itself inside of you

Ok ctr. Who exactly is the one here who has the IQ? You had no argument from the beginning. All you had was your retarded opinions rather than actual facts and by aligning yourself with the right means you support the koch brothers (STRAWMAN HARDER FAGGOT). Fucc off.

*meant has the low IQ

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Why y'all spellin like niggers?

Dysnomia is Louis C.K.

More than I like literally every other human on the planet shoving themselves inside me because the only thing stopping them from doing so is my own fists.

Y'know, as opposed to an entire nation and its system of laws.

i.e. you're a weak little bitch who needs big daddy government to keep him alive

No, I just don't want to be piccing shards of skull out of my fingernails every other day.

what

CTR, JIDF, Holla Forums, SJWs, regressives…

It doesn't matter who you are, you're all retarded as fucc. Collectivists never seem to understand perverse incentives.

Anarchist here, ancapitalism is fuccing stupid. It's all well and good if you have money and property, but if you don't you are fucced from birth, destined for nothing but minimum wage because your parents had to choose between paying the bills and paying for your education. In such a state of life, initiative and ambition would be lower than a NEET's, driving productivity among wage slaves - I mean, entry level employees - down the shitter.

And heaven forbid you get sicc or in an accident, because you'll just be left to starve in bed (until your landlord kiccs you out into the gutter for not paying rent, and then you get sent to jail for loitering on a private sidewalk without being able to pay for the privilege, and then they fine your dying corpse for the privilege of being imprisoned) since you are no longer of any profit to them.

And the work hours, demand quota, prices and interest rates? All designed to keep you too exhausted to retaliate and earning just enough that your needs are met. Wages will be as low as can be, 8 hour work days, weekends, vacations, holidays, sicc pay, employee insurance, health benefits, 401ks and the right for children to have a childhood? Out the fuccing window.

Because every single dime the corporations can squeeze out of their wage slaves, they will. It's just reskinned feudalism, now with a little (tm) at the end of it.

And who else are you going to work for or vend with? They monopolized the entire region, there is no one else. Going to create a startup? Too bad, they own all the property and are selling it to no one.

What's that, you're going to leave and go somewhere else? You had better have enough money for the tollbooths, the extra gas while you sit behind 30,000 cars all waiting their turn to go through said tollbooths, the money to rent when you get there and a job all lined up for you to continue paying for the privilege of renting a life storage cube or else off to prison you go!

Oh, and don't think you can bypass the roads and take the rivers. You'll end up dying from all the chemical poisoning because it was far cheaper and faster to just dump the toxic sludge in the rivers instead of disposing of them safely.

Of course, if you don't take the river, you will still need to wear a gas mask to deal with all the toxic smog.

Isn't life in Ancapistan truly a beautiful and wonderous place? Especially when the NAP isn't being violated and the corporations' hunter-killer bots aren't massacring everyone.

So what is your idea of a perfect anarchist paradise? People killing each other over anything they want Mad Max style? No border and military what's so ever so another country's army can come and take whatever? No rules regarding pollution?

i do believe user here isnt an anarchist and just a statism supporting shitposter

\>tfw taxes are murder and TOW missiles funded by child prostitution are the only cure.

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im ancap btw

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I wish ancaps actually embraced the meme instead of being just another deluded mary sue ideology tbh.

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The map loaded fully with no artifacts?

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more cities please

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this tbh. non-ancap libertarians are hypocrites

Anarchism of any kind is a terrible idea because people can't be trusted to govern themselves. Every idiot needs someone a little less stupid in charge of them.

East Asian model capitalism > keynesian capitalism > laissez faire capitalism > libertarianism > anarcho-capitalism

You all know it to be true

statist logic

What in an ancap society prevents a traditional statist government from forming within?

Yeah, I don't think so.

take more history classes, modern parasite governments are not traditional
what "in an ancap society" prevents this shitty state of affairs if an educated populace, not state public school indoctrinated, learned people

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the will of the people. if they don't want to be ruled, they're not gonna let it happen

wut wut?

You can make your own state but you can't force people to join it or keep in it. If a mini-state tried it would be war between the statist and the anarchist, including the anarchists and all of their private agencies an private armies. So it would be impossible for the state to take over unless over half of the anarchist society voluntarily joined it.

Oxymoron. The very concept of the city is incompatible with the hyperindividualism of libertarians, unless you want shantytowns or Kowloon Walled City. They'd better off with their rural estates.


Triggered.


Like the Chinese real estate bubble? Or Japan's stagation and dancing on the edge against bankruptcy? Or South Korea which copies Japan and will follow it's decline?

There would be cities. They would just take the form of feudal age castle fortresses. Complete with repressed, ignorant peasants and bronze age technology.

Apart from the secret hydroponic marijuana farm in the basement. Next to the dungeon for NAP violators.

I think you're projecting your own desired form of government there matie

nah i like roads.

also, my dungeon wouldn't be for NAP violators, it would be for anarchists.

We don't need roads, we drive main battle tanks to work fucker.

"Work"? You mean you answer to someone? You surrender a portion of your freedom to a more powerful entity/organisation than yourself in exchange for some service that organisation provides?

Gosh but that sounds like a government, doesn't it? Certainly doesn't sound very free. Sounds like you'd be beholden to a king.

With government, you don't choose a master. With a job, you choose who work for.

Do you? Or does one dude eventually buy up all the assets within travelling distance and become a de facto king? I mean, how would you stop that guy from doing that?

What do you do when you can't afford to pay the guy who supplies your drinkable water? How do you stop people from dumping toxic waste into the water table?

In what way are you still an anarchist if you have a master, chosen or otherwise?

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One man could buy most of the assets of one particular area. It's doubtful he could buy everything because not everyone would take his offers, and the fewer remaining businesses there are the more valuable they would become because of the fewer competing entities. Rockerfeller once tried to create a monopoly of oil refineries, and people jsut kept building more because they knew he would buy them. If a guy owns all this stuff and can manage it well, then fine. But the minute he starts trying act like a 'king' and use his large market share to oppress people is the minute that competition skyrockets and people use alternative services or move to somewhere else.


Because people own the supply of drinkable water and harming someone else's property is a violation of the NAP

Then the guy stops offering his service to you. But what, you don't have friends or family who would give you some water? You don't think you could knock on a stranger's door and ask them for some water? If you literally had no friends or family, there would still be private charity that could help people, especially those who are capable of providing for themselves but have run into temporary economic hardship.

I'm not saying you're not allowed to, I'm saying heirarchies of any kind do not fit the definition of the word 'anarchism'. Do you not understand how heirarchies work?

No, it's just not anarchy.

He's bought up all the land surrounding your little town. All of it. If you leave your town, you are trespassing on his land and violating the NAP. He charges you an exorbitant fee to travel through his land unmolested. What do?

The entire water table? He's dumping on his own land, it just happens to affect the rest of local environment. You can't tell him what to do on his own property!

Same scenario as before; guy owns all of the borders around your town and controls the water supply as well as trade routes that would otherwise provide you a means to acquire water filtration and/or purification equipment. What do?

BONUS ROUND: Mr Burns builds a ridiculous mechanism that blocks the sunlight to your town, leaving you all in eternal darkness. The sun blocker is on his land. What do?

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kowloon walled city was a government project
lol

with age, gender, intelligence levels
they exist no matter what everywhere
but that does not mean anarchism is impossible
only in your mind that so craves submission to the state does that make any sense