Libertarian Philosophy LIBERTARIAN CITIES Let us talk about freedom and self...

Isaiah Butler
Isaiah Butler

Libertarian Philosophy
LIBERTARIAN CITIES
Let us talk about freedom and self organization.

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Jeremiah Rodriguez
Jeremiah Rodriguez

Libertarian
Well I'm a librarian.

Jaxson Price
Jaxson Price

I like freedom

Justin Taylor
Justin Taylor

wew

Anthony Lopez
Anthony Lopez

What defense of libertarianism do you have that wouldnt be better served by removing government entirely?

William Peterson
William Peterson

LIBERTARIAN CITIES
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Kayden Bailey
Kayden Bailey

won't happen if kikes still exist

Jaxon Butler
Jaxon Butler

checked

also, most libertarian society will be rural.

Parker Cox
Parker Cox

you can't oppose large government without wanting to remove it completely

I just want low taxes, fun things to not be banned, and for big brother to mind his own damn business.

Blake Diaz
Blake Diaz

But for all these reasons wouldnt it be better to have no government?
We know what we give the government and inch they will take a marathon

Joshua Russell
Joshua Russell

First we must get rid of the big noses from the face of the earth. They infest and corrupt any society form.

Jason Bennett
Jason Bennett

moar

Nicholas Jenkins
Nicholas Jenkins

yes power corrupts apparently.

Landon Evans
Landon Evans

it should be decentralized to the smaller unit, the family, with emphasis on exchanging goods and services each family produces.

I plant grains and you make wood,we exchange …etc
each individual has control over their life.
a code must exist to prevent any attack on personal liberty of the individual and the collective of families.

Jose Scott
Jose Scott

most libertarian society will be rural
You think this because you are unable to comprehend how many people can live near each other without trying to use violence to control each other's actions, despite the fact that that is actually the normal way people behave, and it is the governments that behave unnaturally.

Charles Bennett
Charles Bennett

jews are a manifestation of the monetary system and their hoarding mentality depends on it.
once we get rid of the monetary system we will strip them of their power.

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

Also we must work to secure every family with.
shelter,means of food production, means of energy production,a form of communication (a free internet) and telephony,clean water.

securing the family with important resources, and allowing them to trade the excess with other families for different things, I produce more energy than I need but not much food, you produce much food and less energy so we exchange…etc

William Ortiz
William Ortiz

after this is set up, poverty,monopoly,exploitation,violence,crime…etc will be a thing of the past

Jace Sullivan
Jace Sullivan

but it will be years till we set up this for everyone on the planet, blueprints and important resources must be given to the population by any means necessary, everyone needs to pool their resources to make this happen for everyone on the planet.
Which can prove tricky to execute.but still possible.

Caleb Rivera
Caleb Rivera

bump

Parker Allen
Parker Allen

Libertarianism
Order

Pick one

Landon Thomas
Landon Thomas

OH BOY THIS THREAD *AGAIN*
TIME FOR SOME

//REAL// "LIBERTARAIN" CITIES

Brody Morales
Brody Morales

ADVANCED ARCHITECTURE !!!!! FREE COLLEGE !

Dylan Williams
Dylan Williams

GARBAGE BASED ECONOMY

WE USE HUMAN SHIT TO GROW OUR FOOD !! (PLEASE BUY MY BOOK)

Ryder Brown
Ryder Brown

YEAH MAN FREE INTERNET
(IM ADDICTED TO PORN AND ITS THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD SO I NEED THE INTERNET TO LIVE)
EVERYONE KNOWS IT DOSNT COST ANYTHING TO RUN THE MASSIVE 10KW+ SERVERS INTERNET SHOULD BE FREE!!!

Nathaniel Mitchell
Nathaniel Mitchell

CONGRATS YOU ARE A SUPER SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE!!! 99% OF THE POPULATION DOES *NOT* AGREE WITH YOU!!! :O
PLEASE IGNORE THE MAN THAT WAS JUST VOTED INTO OFFICE BY HALF THE COUNRY ON THESE BASES BECAUSE HE SAID MEAN THING LIKE PUSS !!! >: O

Nathaniel Green
Nathaniel Green

This nigga doin my job for me, Those filthy street pics are CERTAINLY libertarian sanctuaries. I bet you could go to one of those disgusting smelly back streets and actually pay for things in CASH!!! WITH NO TAXES!!!! : D

OR MAYBE EVEN BARTER WITH SILVER AND GOLD!!!!!

(COPYRIGHT 2008 LIBERTARIAN PARTY - ONLY IN A LIBERTARIAN CITY CAN THESE THINGS BE DONE!!! NO WHERE ELSE)

Benjamin Scott
Benjamin Scott

If im in my cardboard house in my libertarian city and im listening to loud music that my neighbor does not like (and he also lives in a cardboard house next to me) Am i violating his ear-NAP ??? can he murder me for this ??? PLEASE RESPONCE !

Aiden Hughes
Aiden Hughes

SERIOUSLY GUYS IF I KEEP BLARING - BONES - DEAD BATTERIES ON MY STERIO SYSTEM WILL I BE OK ?????

Jordan Collins
Jordan Collins

WHAT ARE DECENTRALIZED MESH NETS?

Austin Cox
Austin Cox

woah another nat-soc communist trash that does not understand a damn thing about libertarianism.
kill yourself mate

Evan Barnes
Evan Barnes

for America, shitlord libertarianism is the future
no gary johnson faggots or open borders retards

John Thomas
John Thomas

By the way, if you like capitalism but didn't vote Trump, you were retarded. Niggers and muslims aren't interested in small government, private property, and capitalism, the majority will always be communist race agitators or tribalist jihadis who would rather steal from you, libertarian, because you're probably a fucking white male. Doesn't matter how not racist you are, the majority either don't have the IQ or have some revenge to exact, they won't realize your hospitality.

Plus, 80% of immigrants vote democrat. Reagan granted amnesty to the hispanics in CA, but that just invited in shit tier beaners who made gangs, make "brown pride nation" with the nogs, smoke weed all day while voting to steal from whitey, fly their mexican flag above any other, and flipped CA from Republican to democrat. Open borders means death of libertarianism, at least until you can set up clear government rules resistant to changes torwards socialism.

Aiden Bennett
Aiden Bennett

a code is needed to protect personal liberty
But government doesnt really provide this. We, as a whole, do not infringe on other people's liberty because it is morally reprehensible to the reasonable person. The government, no matter how small, will never be better at protect you from the morally corrupt than yourself. If you are armed then pulling a trigger will always be faster than calling for police.
We should remember that the government is also very good at codifying systematic infringements of your liberty. Taxes, drug laws, speed limits to name a few.
The endless federal regulations to name a few more.
Government can never limit itself because it is formed with the implication that the only thing limiting itself is indeed itself.
We can't expect something that holds power above men to limit itself can we?

Christian Butler
Christian Butler

Latency traps

Anthony Howard
Anthony Howard

You can't have a city without people working together.

Liam Hughes
Liam Hughes

If we get rid of the gubmint we advance 500 years overnight

This is what lolspergs actually beleive

Andrew Ramirez
Andrew Ramirez

Libertarianism is literally just anarchism for hipster neets and is one of the many faggy banes of society today.

Hunter Hill
Hunter Hill

I voted for the memelord, retard.

Just because I'm libertarian leaning doesn't mean I support Aleppo Man.

Lincoln Robinson
Lincoln Robinson

And there's a big difference between anarchism and libertarianism.

I believe there's a role that the state must play, but that it should be minimal.

Carter Rivera
Carter Rivera

What is that role and why do you defend it?

Andrew Torres
Andrew Torres

The role is to protect the nation's citizens and their individual liberties.

Jeremiah Martinez
Jeremiah Martinez

No, it's because every non-degenerate ancap and most of the libertarians I have known have been rural, and rural people are the most used to not resorting to higher authorities in general.

Dylan Williams
Dylan Williams

If you are a libertarian and arent the heir to hundreds of millions

Arent an entrepreneur pulling a few mil a year

You are objectively retarded

You think youre edgy because you read a couple online articles. Youre obviously not well educated. If you like succing off the Koch companies, Jew conglomerates, billionaire children who inherit daddies big bux (Trump etc.) then yea, vote libertarian.

Because private corps have the countries best interest in mind right?

You are so fuccing brainwashed its painful. You actually believe this philosophy benefits anythign but the top of the pyramid. Beyond retarded. Truly.

Angel Morris
Angel Morris

Cry harder CTR!!!

Ian Sanders
Ian Sanders

billionaire children who inherit daddies big bux (Trump etc.)
But Donald Trump hasn't died yet so his kids haven't inherited shit so far.

Ian Rodriguez
Ian Rodriguez

libertarian cities

Wherein every minute is punctuated with the sound of a gunshot from someone correcting a violation of the NAP?

Kevin Perry
Kevin Perry

CTR
on Holla Forums

Have CTR accusations replaced JIDF as the thing people say when they don't have an argument?
Must be hard having a low IQ

Carson Cook
Carson Cook

you sure love big government shoving itself inside of you

Gabriel Perez
Gabriel Perez

Vote left because it's "the smart choice".
Ok ctr. Who exactly is the one here who has the IQ? You had no argument from the beginning. All you had was your retarded opinions rather than actual facts and by aligning yourself with the right means you support the koch brothers (STRAWMAN HARDER FAGGOT). Fucc off.

Ryan Taylor
Ryan Taylor

*meant has the low IQ

Mason Kelly
Mason Kelly

test
succ
fucc
thicc

Why y'all spellin like niggers?

Brody King
Brody King

Dysnomia is Louis C.K.

Luke Watson
Luke Watson

More than I like literally every other human on the planet shoving themselves inside me because the only thing stopping them from doing so is my own fists.

Y'know, as opposed to an entire nation and its system of laws.

Juan Rogers
Juan Rogers

i.e. you're a weak little bitch who needs big daddy government to keep him alive

Carson Ward
Carson Ward

No, I just don't want to be piccing shards of skull out of my fingernails every other day.

Henry Long
Henry Long

what

John Powell
John Powell

CTR, JIDF, /leftypol/, SJWs, regressives…

It doesn't matter who you are, you're all retarded as fucc. Collectivists never seem to understand perverse incentives.

Noah Barnes
Noah Barnes

Anarchist here, ancapitalism is fuccing stupid. It's all well and good if you have money and property, but if you don't you are fucced from birth, destined for nothing but minimum wage because your parents had to choose between paying the bills and paying for your education. In such a state of life, initiative and ambition would be lower than a NEET's, driving productivity among wage slaves - I mean, entry level employees - down the shitter.

And heaven forbid you get sicc or in an accident, because you'll just be left to starve in bed (until your landlord kiccs you out into the gutter for not paying rent, and then you get sent to jail for loitering on a private sidewalk without being able to pay for the privilege, and then they fine your dying corpse for the privilege of being imprisoned) since you are no longer of any profit to them.

And the work hours, demand quota, prices and interest rates? All designed to keep you too exhausted to retaliate and earning just enough that your needs are met. Wages will be as low as can be, 8 hour work days, weekends, vacations, holidays, sicc pay, employee insurance, health benefits, 401ks and the right for children to have a childhood? Out the fuccing window.

Because every single dime the corporations can squeeze out of their wage slaves, they will. It's just reskinned feudalism, now with a little (tm) at the end of it.

And who else are you going to work for or vend with? They monopolized the entire region, there is no one else. Going to create a startup? Too bad, they own all the property and are selling it to no one.

What's that, you're going to leave and go somewhere else? You had better have enough money for the tollbooths, the extra gas while you sit behind 30,000 cars all waiting their turn to go through said tollbooths, the money to rent when you get there and a job all lined up for you to continue paying for the privilege of renting a life storage cube or else off to prison you go!

Oh, and don't think you can bypass the roads and take the rivers. You'll end up dying from all the chemical poisoning because it was far cheaper and faster to just dump the toxic sludge in the rivers instead of disposing of them safely.

Of course, if you don't take the river, you will still need to wear a gas mask to deal with all the toxic smog.

Isn't life in Ancapistan truly a beautiful and wonderous place? Especially when the NAP isn't being violated and the corporations' hunter-killer bots aren't massacring everyone.

Lincoln Green
Lincoln Green

So what is your idea of a perfect anarchist paradise? People killing each other over anything they want Mad Max style? No border and military what's so ever so another country's army can come and take whatever? No rules regarding pollution?

Joseph Russell
Joseph Russell

i do believe user here isnt an anarchist and just a statism supporting shitposter

Bentley Ross
Bentley Ross

\>tfw taxes are murder and TOW missiles funded by child prostitution are the only cure.

Gavin Fisher
Gavin Fisher

wew

Joshua Adams
Joshua Adams

when you take the ancapball memes literally

Isaac Sullivan
Isaac Sullivan

im ancap btw

Hudson Lopez
Hudson Lopez

I wish ancaps actually embraced the meme instead of being just another deluded mary sue ideology tbh.

Jason Baker
Jason Baker

/intl/ shills find this thread
they EXPOCT US X-DDD to think they're nonstop shilling is genuine

Aaron Stewart
Aaron Stewart

That looks like brink but…
The map loaded fully with no artifacts?

Dylan Flores
Dylan Flores

What is distributism Alex

Joshua Butler
Joshua Butler

they think libertarians and ancaps are the same thing

Ian Ortiz
Ian Ortiz

my bowels smell like a pair of of cum soccs

Landon Kelly
Landon Kelly

more cities please

Zachary Gomez
Zachary Gomez

he thinks ancapism isn't just the logical conclusion of libertarianism

Hudson Robinson
Hudson Robinson

this tbh. non-ancap libertarians are hypocrites

Jayden Brooks
Jayden Brooks

Anarchism of any kind is a terrible idea because people can't be trusted to govern themselves. Every idiot needs someone a little less stupid in charge of them.

Thomas Kelly
Thomas Kelly

East Asian model capitalism > keynesian capitalism > laissez faire capitalism > libertarianism > anarcho-capitalism

You all know it to be true
inb4 angry lefties

Sebastian Campbell
Sebastian Campbell

people can't be trusted to govern themselves but they CAN be trusted to govern others
statist logic

Christian Phillips
Christian Phillips

What in an ancap society prevents a traditional statist government from forming within?

inb4 muh NAP
Yeah, I don't think so.

Jayden Collins
Jayden Collins

traditional
take more history classes, modern parasite governments are not traditional
what "in an ancap society" prevents this shitty state of affairs if an educated populace, not state public school indoctrinated, learned people

Blake Harris
Blake Harris

Libertarian city after 50 years of its existence

Charles Reyes
Charles Reyes

What in an ancap society prevents a traditional statist government from forming within?
the will of the people. if they don't want to be ruled, they're not gonna let it happen

Tyler Scott
Tyler Scott

wut wut?

Nathan Thompson
Nathan Thompson

You can make your own state but you can't force people to join it or keep in it. If a mini-state tried it would be war between the statist and the anarchist, including the anarchists and all of their private agencies an private armies. So it would be impossible for the state to take over unless over half of the anarchist society voluntarily joined it.

Adam Wilson
Adam Wilson

Libertarian
cities
Oxymoron. The very concept of the city is incompatible with the hyperindividualism of libertarians, unless you want shantytowns or Kowloon Walled City. They'd better off with their rural estates.

Triggered.

East Asian model capitalism
Like the Chinese real estate bubble? Or Japan's stagation and dancing on the edge against bankruptcy? Or South Korea which copies Japan and will follow it's decline?

Logan Gomez
Logan Gomez

There would be cities. They would just take the form of feudal age castle fortresses. Complete with repressed, ignorant peasants and bronze age technology.

Apart from the secret hydroponic marijuana farm in the basement. Next to the dungeon for NAP violators.

Camden Lewis
Camden Lewis

I think you're projecting your own desired form of government there matie

Brody Hall
Brody Hall

nah i like roads.

also, my dungeon wouldn't be for NAP violators, it would be for anarchists.

Adam Bennett
Adam Bennett

We don't need roads, we drive main battle tanks to work fucker.

Jason Barnes
Jason Barnes

"Work"? You mean you answer to someone? You surrender a portion of your freedom to a more powerful entity/organisation than yourself in exchange for some service that organisation provides?

Gosh but that sounds like a government, doesn't it? Certainly doesn't sound very free. Sounds like you'd be beholden to a king.

Jaxson Ortiz
Jaxson Ortiz

With government, you don't choose a master. With a job, you choose who work for.

David Martin
David Martin

Do you? Or does one dude eventually buy up all the assets within travelling distance and become a de facto king? I mean, how would you stop that guy from doing that?

What do you do when you can't afford to pay the guy who supplies your drinkable water? How do you stop people from dumping toxic waste into the water table?

In what way are you still an anarchist if you have a master, chosen or otherwise?

Jack Hill
Jack Hill

people are not allowed to form voluntary hierarchies
forming a voluntary contract and working for someone is oppression

/leftypol/index.html

Do you? Or does one dude eventually buy up all the assets within travelling distance and become a de facto king? I mean, how would you stop that guy from doing that?

One man could buy most of the assets of one particular area. It's doubtful he could buy everything because not everyone would take his offers, and the fewer remaining businesses there are the more valuable they would become because of the fewer competing entities. Rockerfeller once tried to create a monopoly of oil refineries, and people jsut kept building more because they knew he would buy them. If a guy owns all this stuff and can manage it well, then fine. But the minute he starts trying act like a 'king' and use his large market share to oppress people is the minute that competition skyrockets and people use alternative services or move to somewhere else.

How do you stop people from dumping toxic waste into the water table?

Because people own the supply of drinkable water and harming someone else's property is a violation of the NAP

What do you do when you can't afford to pay the guy who supplies your drinkable water?

Then the guy stops offering his service to you. But what, you don't have friends or family who would give you some water? You don't think you could knock on a stranger's door and ask them for some water? If you literally had no friends or family, there would still be private charity that could help people, especially those who are capable of providing for themselves but have run into temporary economic hardship.

Asher Brooks
Asher Brooks

people are not allowed to form voluntary hierarchies
I'm not saying you're not allowed to, I'm saying heirarchies of any kind do not fit the definition of the word 'anarchism'. Do you not understand how heirarchies work?

forming a voluntary contract and working for someone is oppression
No, it's just not anarchy.

or move to somewhere else
He's bought up all the land surrounding your little town. All of it. If you leave your town, you are trespassing on his land and violating the NAP. He charges you an exorbitant fee to travel through his land unmolested. What do?

people own the supply of drinkable water
The entire water table? He's dumping on his own land, it just happens to affect the rest of local environment. You can't tell him what to do on his own property!

friends or family who would give you some water
Same scenario as before; guy owns all of the borders around your town and controls the water supply as well as trade routes that would otherwise provide you a means to acquire water filtration and/or purification equipment. What do?

BONUS ROUND: Mr Burns builds a ridiculous mechanism that blocks the sunlight to your town, leaving you all in eternal darkness. The sun blocker is on his land. What do?

Jacob Adams
Jacob Adams

LIBERTARIAN
desuarchive.org/cunny/thread/1086/

Kayden Gutierrez
Kayden Gutierrez

kowloon walled city was a government project
lol

Cooper Bailey
Cooper Bailey

Do you not understand how heirarchies work?
with age, gender, intelligence levels
they exist no matter what everywhere
but that does not mean anarchism is impossible
only in your mind that so craves submission to the state does that make any sense

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