How do we fix our birth rates even after we uncuck ourselves

Honestly I think that a lot of our problems have to do with our extremely high standards of living depressing our birth rates and making our people soft and weak.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_and_fertility

I mean Japan a firmly non-cucked ethnonationalist state still has massive problems with it's birth rate. Honestly our biggest problem is avoiding being defeated by victory even after we put all kikes into Ovens.

Of course some good old suffering would solve the problem but that's nonviable because how the fuck is a Government supposed to make it's own populace suffer and then tell the population that it's for their own good. Are we supposed to create eternal war? That's obviously not viable at all.

You might blame technology but even supposing that we could convince our people to abandon technology and live like the Amish(and that's fucking impossible) we would get conquering by shitskins or the Chinese. We can't defend ourselves in the modern world without an industrial base.

How do we have a technologically advanced civilization with a very high standard of living without suffering depressed birth rates and a population made up of little bitches?

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Religiousity is a key component also you would need to do something to counteract the sexual revolution. Also education would need to be changed. The issue here is you need to promote marriage, have a high enough wage and stability for only one partner to need to work and an education system that doesn't come in 20 shades of commie multiculturalist grey-brown.

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Genetic engineered babies.

endless population growth is undesirable anyways

Without using (((Federal Reserve))) logic, please explain to me how the population leveling out is a birth rate problem.

We don't need to improve our birthrates; we need to suppress their birthrates.

The poorest, shittiest places in the world always have the biggest populations and birthrates. In fact they are plagued with uncontrollably high birthrates.

QUANTITY, VERSUS, QUALITY. PICK ONE.


They can kill themselves with an uncontrolled population all they want in their own countries. We need to stop giving them shekels and let nature take its course.

Isn't unlimited growth assumed due to the steady advancement of technology? I mean in the past population capacity has always been determined by technology, infrastructure, and resources.

I mean once we have advanced 3D printing things are bound to change.

are we in the good times?
meaning we have soft people…..
meaning tough times ahead

TOUGH TIMES AHEAD
RWDS
ROUGH TIMES AHEAD
RWTS

RIGHT WING TOUGH SQUADS

1. Tax rich couples for not having children. VERY IMPORTANT! Don't subsidize children on the poor because it breeds stupidity
2. Increase demand for children through the media. Pro-children propaganda. Subsidize goods and services related to babies.
3. Cut down on feminist propaganda. Either you fucking work your ass off or you stay at home and have kids.
4. Especially subsidize day-care centers. And don't let fucking philipino immigrants take the job for fuck sake.
5. For as much that women are obliged to have children, men must be prepared to die in battle to protect them. It's only equality, right? Enough with this "women have to suffer more" rubbish.
6. Cut this stupidity of disencouraging painkillers during childbirth if it doesn't hurt the child. "Muh troo motherhood" If you fucking cared about true motherhood you would have had kids in your late teens/ early 20's, not in your fucking late 30's!
7. With regards to Japan, they already have a shitload of USA debt so they should stop this retarded obsession of keeping a trade surplus against the USA. They should force down the work hours to 40 hours a week, kick out the immigrants, relax on the trade to let America make a surplus for a while (cheap food would allow for more children also), and spend the free time having kids.
Thats about it tbh lad

Well, however you want to do it. As a good NatSoc, I'm an ecologist and believe it would be terrible to see niggers consume the African ecosystem like a plague of locusts.

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This is a good plan, but there is some evidence that after a certain amount of wealth, birthrates go back up again. We need to suppress birthrates in the global south. that's what is most important.

Only because someone keeps arming them.

this is the only bit I take issue with in your post, we don't know if/how painkillers effect the child.
these things should be studied extensively before we start having "fetal opioid syndrome" or some shit

u wut m8? what happens only because who is arming whom? niggers are breeding because we keep feeding them. it has nothing to do with arms.

Subsidize reproduction. This could take many forms - free healthcare for services relating to pregnancy/childbirth/childrearing, tax breaks (refundable tax credits a la the EIC), or even just direct payments via a government program. Giving a set rate (just to throw a number out there, $300) per month to families per healthy child in their house would not only spur a population boom due to the removal of the financial barrier for having children, but given that we tend to spend enormous amounts on welfare and tax breaks for people with children anyway, it would more or less balance itself out when combined with eliminating the current welfare system.
This would necessitate getting rid of the nanny state and its thousands of laws, social justice, socialized thought crime, mandatory public education, professional organizations and state laws that require college degrees for certain professions, and mass-scale helicopter parenting, which I simply cannot support. Implementing the cultural/moral education classes found in enlightened communist countries like China to teach children personal independence and responsibility, nationalism, the importance of physical fitness and proper nutrition, and other sickeningly white ideals would be the worst kind of cultural appropriation.

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"Japan needs a higher population" is an argument designed to get them to open their borders.

Japan has some of the densest cities on earth. A little more elbow room would not hurt.

And then there is the issue of economic contraction and obsolescene of the need for huge factories full of human workers due to automation, which is only going to increase as industrial and even Service-sector robotics spread. If Japan's employment opportunities and GDP decrease, a falling population means the GDP-per-Person need not decrease, and individual levels of prosperity (especially for the middle class) can remain stable and even increase.

The population of Japan today is 127 million. In 1900, it was 90 million and at the time Japan had both managed to maintain an ancient civilization and was on its way to becoming an advanced modern society.

Tl,dr: it's a non-issue.

This. Just nuke them.

They can't hunt gorillas or lions with wooden spears. You mentioned ecology, like hunting animals that are near endangered.

Japan should open their borders.

Kick out every shitskin, gas the kikes, take control of the banks, stop helping the turd world, make it possible to support family with a single income like it fucking was supposed to be, encourage family values through media, automation for things people don't want to do because it's too shitty a job.

We don't need to have forever increasing populations if the economic system is modified with the level of technology in mind. The current system is outdated.

This.

Population has been an excuse for the west to open its borders too.

Fuck population stats and worry about that when traitors are hanging from lampposts.

Okay guys even assuming that birth rates aren't a problem how do we prevent our population from being soft, weak, little bitches for who the very concept of struggle is detestable?

Well in Japan there is this retarded notion that mothers have to give birth with no painkillers because it's "true" or some shit. Obsessing over the effort taken to a goal does NOT equate to the quality of the outcome! Besides, I'm pretty sure laughing gas has been confirmed safe for childbirth.

remember to filter and report this piece of shit literal kike


First of all, yes you can. Second of all, they'll burn down all the forest to try to farm it, destroy all kinds of wildlife, not just large ones like elephants, etc etc. They'll do it. The only way is to force them to stop breeding, through birth control, starvation or war – i don't really care.

Kek has blessed my post; he knows that I am true.

Christianity. Hear me out. High birth rates. Women not totally oppressed, but still in kitchen. Eschews birth control and encourages young marraige by discouraging premarital sex. Families till death encourage more breeding. Monogamy without fornication means less cucking.

It worked for our ancestors.

Not going to bother with the rest of your post, but it's been known for at least the past decade or so that Japan has a graying population. The same shit China's starting to go through due to its former One Child Policy, Japan will go through because of personal choices. However, the Japanese will be much easier to kill off completely than the Chinese (see the infamous Angel Cop clip on YouTube regarding this), who've been the most populous ethnic group on the planet for at the least the past several centuries (I recall reading the personal letters/diary of a famous explorer, I believe it was Marco Polo, who scoffed at their out-of-cont/rol population even back then).

tl;dr It's a non-issue today, but what about a generation or two from now? Japan will suffer massive population contractions that will bring down its economy and civilization in the absence of mass immigration. The U.S. and EU are already in that "mass immigration to prevent societal and economic collapse" phase.

forced labor or war, people need to experience hardships first hand if they're to be depussyfied.

Yeah but I don't have an IQ of 60.


Since you asked an enormous question with a single sentence, I'll answer your enormous question with a single sentence.

Easy times breed soft people; soft people bring hard times; hard times create hard people; hard people create easy times.

The biggest whole in your argument is that the perceived necessity for a higher population can easily be forfilled with an increase in the ethnically native population. Why need immigrants if you can have more kids instead?

It's simple. Make having kids great again.

No guy wants to work 60 hours a week to have 30% if his pay robbed by the government and another 50% but a gold digging woman who is also a career woman who doesnt understand that taking of her husband and kids should be top priority versus working for a boss that doesnt give a shit about her until she has an affair with him.

Its just bad news all around. Women should leave the workplace en masse and youll see things fix itself. Its the same thing that needs to be done in all western countries.

are we in the good times?
meaning we have soft people…..
meaning tough times ahead
TOUGH TIMES AHEAD
RWDS
ROUGH TIMES AHEAD
RWTS
RIGHT WING TOUGH SQUADS

How do we stoke that war? We would have to import violent sand niggers to provoke a war through terror, than use it as an excuse to bomb their overpopulated cities and….. ooooooooh. Irony just hit me.

TFW Hillary was trying to save us.

First off people would never accept forced labor that's untenable.

Eternal war is unsustainable for obvious reasons not to mention dangerous due to Nuclear weapons. And we can't fight non-nuclear nations because they're retarded shitskins and it would be a cake walk. And even then we'd run out of retarded shitskins to conquer quite quickly like during the age of imperialism.

Maybe universal conscription would help it sure has prevented Switzerland from being as cucked as the rest of Europe.

But we need a long term sustainable sinal solution to the little bitch problem.

Bullshit, prove it. Christ-stains married, remarried, and cheated nonstop all throughout their shitty history. There's even a whole fucking branch of Christianity - Anglicanism - that was created specifically because some big angry manpig wanted to fuck as many bitches as he could, and the Pope wouldn't bloody allow it, so the entire country was brought into the Church of England instead of the Catholic Church.
I'm not saying they all did, just that divorce, remarriage, and affairs were common in the past just as they are today.

You stormderps pull this shit all the time, dreaming of some golden age of some group you imagine you're a part of, yet that golden age never actually existed and is merely a figment of your overactive imaginations.

Soft people have created the world that we live in.

A world were we have to fear for the very survival of advanced civilization.

Fuck that.

stop jacking of to anime.

Just to add. There is still an atteaction to woman but guys want actual woman not men with boobs. This can be seen by the huge increase in anime consumption as an alternative. Anime generally portrays women with feminity vs the independant woman thong the jews push in western media

Prove ANY of these statements, Assbutt

i told my gf (who works in the school system) that i want her to homeschool our kids (if we have them) and she got mad, expecting the )))system((( to take care of them, fuck that

At the same time the productivity lost with women leaving the workplace would be to the detriment of the counrtry. I'd say force couples to work in the same workplace rather than split them so that the husband spends half of his time with other women and the wife with other men. Women have worked besides their husbands in home businesses since firever and it has never been a problem until women started spending time away from their husbands to workplaces with other women.

Simply cutting workplace diverty laws would do a good job at keeping the useless women out.

If anything, it's the media that should be encouraging women to stop working/whoring so damn much and having children, rather than the law. We all know that women are very easily manipulated by the media, and have not much repect for law and order… Why not use the media instead?

I meant for the current generation of faggots. Next generations can be taken care of by having education that is focused on learning skills, mental and physical development and that shuns catering to bullshit feelings of children, instead of having brainwashing camps made to create eternal menchildren. Such schooling should also be segregated, so each develop skills more suited to their gender.

Conscription between 18 and 21 really isn't a bad Idea, as long as roles in it are considered for both sexes, like maybe have women do nursing, cooking, etc. while men trains to be directly engaged in combat.

A softened people is merely more prone to subversion. Think of it as a people who have their guard down to rest.

We wouldn't have a problem today if WW2 ended differently and Marxism was routed from the face of the Earth. This disease implanted itself on a people that were traumatized by WW2 and thus desperate to be pacifistic (pacified). The softness was doubled to the point of being marshmallows which, if taking my earlier mention of a soft people being ones with their guard down, would mean suicide, which is precisely what is happening. Not only is the guard down, western civilization has been diving on its own sword.

It's not necessarily because of easy times that it's like this, but because the event that lead to those easy times ended the worst way possible.

The denser the population is, the softer it has to be for the society to function.

Why? Because if your society is full of hard dudes playing by their own rules, they're not gonna get along with each other very well. And if they're confined in a limited space, it'll end in blood and disorder.

Compare frontier settlers to their offspring just a few generations down the road.

Do you realise the sheer amount of men who are unemployed or neets that would donanything to work and have a family?

Reducing the workforce would up the wages and make even looking for work/education much more attractive as you will be getting a higher wage due to the less amount of competition plus the increase in likelyhood to get a job after finishing school.

Do not for the jewish plot. Business owners are handrubbing to the moon with the huge labor pool. Nowadays workers need to have more credentials for less pay and are told to be greateful to even have a fucking job.

We have lived for centuaries where women took care of the household and men went to work. Eacher family member had a role and were productive and happy in that role.

It was only until recently this shit was pushed and womens happiness plummeted yet they still double down on the bullshit.

Why go to work and deal with that shit and pay some stranger the money you made doing shit you hate to raise your kids. Not only do they half ass it, it enstranges your children. You also miss the formative years of your own babies. It literally makes no sense in the grand scheme of things yet people still fall for the meme.

And can you honestly trust that that educational system can prevent little special snowflakes from popping up into the far future as technology and society changes? I think that the society of the future needs to incorporate struggle fundamentally while not being overbearing to the point of breaking down or arbitrary.

The solution to this problems needs to be firmly woven into the foundational fabric of any future society or else we'll end up where we are now.

Fucked

cavemen killed Mammoths, retard. Stop being a fucking delusional jewnigger.

We need to end fornication, no sex outside marriage.
We need to end pornography, no porn addiction causing fetishes and perversion.

If you are engaging in either of these vices, you must stop. You are part of the cancer destroying our society.
I hear people call out sodomy, but then go and fuck some slut at the pub.
On the DOTR, miscegenation and sodomy will be sorted out. After that comes the NotLK and fornication and porn will be sorted out.

Fornication is the greatest poisoned well of modernity, any who drink from it without regret will have to be purged.

You're retarded. We haven't changed in over 20,000 years.

"Cave men." What a joke. Stop watching TV.

look, you stupid fuck. niggers kill lions with spears even today. stop being a fucking retard. also, IQs have gone up like 15 point is just the 20th century alone. You have absolutely no fucking clue what you're talking about. You're making yourself sound like a retarded nigger.

just stop. stop.

This is correct, penalties against sexual immorality need to be recodified into our laws ranging from execution for homosexuality, bestiality, child rape, to prison for disseminating pornography, to fines for more minor offenses.

Many laws are actually already on the books throughout the south, they've just been ruled "unconstitutional," but they exist already.

Give the social welfare benefit to the young males instead of the females. They will exchange it for pussy instead of free psychology degrees and cat food.

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modern niggers killing lions with spears
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QED – fuck off

Alright nigger. I see I offended you and your relatives.

I would keep doing it but it's 2am.

My vision for this educational system is kinda like a boot camp adapted to kids, that is focused on developing skills useful to society instead of warfare. Kids need to develop their curiosity, knowledge no matter how hard or disgusting the truth is, physical abilities, honor to their own and having a strong attachment to their people. They also should have a lot of mandatory work both in and out of school and be punished if they don't follow instructions or show weakness, I'm all for light corporal punishment. Then, once they are at the very end of their education, have something focused on detecting subversion.

That should give a focus towards STEM and ensure a strong attachment to one's people while breaking the poison of entitlement. Weirdly enough, my idea of education is closer to the Japanese one than modern western ones.

Fornication is the big one, its not just a legal change (that would do wonders), but also a culture change.

How many people do not believe that getting to CUM in a woman is not the greatest thing like _ever_ :DDDDDD and make this the purpose of their life. The entire noting using "virgin" as a shaming language is so fucking DECADENT it makes me rage daily.

It is simple, we get horny orientals to go over there, they will look the same, and that is good enough for me.

socialism destroys birth rates

why have kids, who will take care of you in your old age, if the government does it for you?

Could you explain item 6 a little more please? I'm retarded today.

Look, you retarded faggot. You said the only way niggers would destroy the ecosystem is with guns and that they couldn't hunt big game without them. I soundly proved you wrong.

I'll take your leaving as an apology and admission of loss.

apology accepted. sleep tight. and in the future try reading a fucking book before you open your mouth.

people are as horny as they now as they have ever been the problem is that first world people are just selfish(everybody thinks they are going to be a rock star) promote the family and back it up with monetary incentives…problem solved.

They got cucked when they lost WW2.

They are 99 percent ethnic Japanese.

No they're not cucked.

At least racially.

Japan has a very low rate of using painkillers during childbirth compared to other countries.

Fornication outside of marriage should be a criminal offense, adultery should be a capital offense, I'm a bit torn on prostitution as that was a part of Medieval western culture. Don't know where it should stand.

Taking care of the house has become much, much easier though.

True motherhood is bringing up and educating a child, not just childbirth.

Simple.

TAKE AWAY THE RIGHTS OF WOMEN

I don't mean their basic human rights, although that would be lulzy, I mean the enormous, disproportionate rights they have because of the hole between their legs.

No automatic child custody, no child support. No welfare for single mothers.

If the child is thrust into a situation where one parent is 'abusive' and the other is financially unfit, then it becomes a ward of the state and the state collects alimony from the both of them. There, you've solved the problem of lying whores who get 'bored' and take their sons' and daughters' fathers away for extra gibs.

No alimony. No common law marriage.

Notice a pattern here? This would be stripping away the enormous entitlements women receive when they feel like it.

Show women that society doesn't owe them jack shit and they'll shape up immediately and start being better wives and mothers, because they know deep in their blackened little hearts that the slowest gazelle gets eaten.

Trips Checked

also, capped.

JAPAN DOES NOT HAVE A BIRTHRATE (((PROBLEM)))

We are entering an age where machines and robotics are a real thing, and many low level jobs will be automatized. A forever-growing birthrate will only lead to a shortage of jobs. And on a tiny island nation, this is not a good thing.

Japan's slowly declining Birth Rate is perfectly fine. And no, displacing their people with thousands of shitty muslims is not the key to this.

The birthrate shit is a meme.

There are currently 127 million jap living in Japland.

There is currently 9 million swedes.

Do you have any idea how big that population is?

kek, did you see that? Even my fucking wires are crossed. I meant the state collects child support, not alimony.

Polite sage for double post.

Different strata of society will always behave differently, I do not care much for what the proletariat hordes put their dick into.
But the more functioning members of society should be expected to not engage in any sort of filth.

Society is more old people heavy. Less young people, eventually not enough to support all the old people. This is called the dependency ratio, and if it rises too high you end up with tons of dead grandmas. The economy would decline massively.

Also, if you are in this state, it makes it easier to argue for mass immigration, so niggeldy piggeldies can supply more young people.

The only way out in the long run is a sort of roboticized economy. This can be used in nationalisms favor, though a lot of the ultraditionalist pseudo-primitivists here aren't going to like it.

Added to that, the simplest start would be to have mandatory military service for women as well, between the age of consent on to 25 years old. Have conscription apply to them.

Make it so that the easiest way to dodge the draft/basic training is raising their own children.

For your cowardly dunce line it certainly is you queer.

They need to keep the Chinese away, that's the only issue

Nigger are you insane? Women are at their peak fertility starting late teens until late 20s. Having them in the military so long is gonna increase the likelihood of having fucked up babies.

Simple, women get the fuck out of the workplace, and men are required to serve in the military. Education is changed to remove Jewish horseshit, and promote the family unit, physical and mental excellence, and the preservation of the people.

As has been already said, endless population growth is undesirable anyways. Having genetically engineered kids is one option, having a sort of social contract where people didn't have anymore than two or three kids is another. Obviously if someone had quadruplets, you wouldn't go killing their extra kids, but I feel that population also wouldn't even be an issue if we just wiped Africa and most of Asia off the fucking map. South America too. Make a glorious planet of Whites, Nips, and halfbreed mixes of those two.

He's saying they'll get one in the oven to avoid service user.

Oh damn, I'm getting tired. I didn't see the last line before posting.

I'm currently reading the Second Book and I've got to say I'm quite surprised.

Hitler claims that this is exactly due to lack of space, and that this is completely natural thing. Essentially, without some form of eugenics it would lead to decrease in quality of people.

It would make sense in Jap-scenario since they are on that island, but I'm not sure that the lack of space is exactly the cause. Could be.

Remove all jewish influence from media, obviously.

Invent a Virtual Reality Machine that could transfer your consciousness and experience shit from there. Your physical body is fine while your mind matures.

Just be wary of shitty psy-op within.

Red pill them about the struggle they were born into.

With larger pieces of land and homes for white families. Lower taxes on property. If whites werent worried about basic cost of living they would have more kids. Since whites are responsible with money, we dont have more kids than we can afford.

Having kids needs to be something that makes your economic position BETTER (assuming you're the sort of person we want to have kids). Tax cuts, greater government services, etc etc. The Reich had a system where you received a loan the moment you started a family and had chunks taken off for every kid you had - a policy like that could work wonders, when limited to the right kind of people.

That only happens if you are on welfare.

Or living in Hitler's germany.

What you need is some Lebensraum.

Oops, meant to reply to OP

You sound like an angry dyke that doesnt get enough dickings

If the Reich won, motherfuckers better take all of America because I will not be living in a place like fucking Mexico.

birth rates will rectify when people actually have hope for the future.

it's not high standards of living that are making our people soft and weak.
the culture has gone south because heresy has spread from academic institutions. people are holding an impractical ethos due to holding a set of beliefs that are impractical. it's the increase of experimentation that has fucked things up quite a bit.
simply put, if the people make positive associations with marriage, child rearing, and family life, it will be preferred. then the people will do these things and the population will grow. the solution is to propagandize the population to this end. note that propaganda isn't necessarily false or misleading even in full context.
japan is facing massive amounts of immigration and such so it is fairly cucked. furthermore, the population does not want to have children due to their beliefs regarding this, therefor in that regard, it is also cucked.
yes, we are at conflict with ourselves as well. it's part of the battle.
the reason why it's difficult to start exercising is overcoming the thought of pain associated with it. however, it is ultimately rewarding. this is similar to promoting family life.
see previous answer.
such is life. this is already the case.
it's the case.
it's unnecessary. it's all just a means to an end: happiness. if family life is that means, promote it.
it's a means to an end. industry >defense > happiness.
you must start at the foundation. once the population believes something or other, then they will behave in accordance to those beliefs. you will see growth and progress without having to lift a finger. invigorate and defend the spirit of the people first and foremost.

Japan is a nation of workaholics. The nation is dependent on trade with China almost entirely. They like Trump in nipland because he wants to kick China's ass. Although the rest of Japan is pretty based.

To this day I still don't understand why raising birth rates is so crucial. Yes, the economy will take a hit for a half generation or so, but that's temporary.

Especially in Japan there are too many damn people. The nips are literally making certain types of fish go extinct just because there are so many people eating sushi at this point. Urbanization continues to spread. Technology continues to automate more and more jobs.

What the nips and whites need to do is keep their borders secure, stop all foreign aid, and hunker down for a decade or so for a temporary economic hit. Let natural selection do its work on the nog and mudslime populations overseas.

I don't think we will really without some sort of manifest destiny being embraced by society. Could be expansion into space, could be expansion into the ocean, I think either way would work. Encourage people to reproduce by giving handouts to those who want to take part, for every child they have, like we(the US) encouraged people to expand west with free land grants.

i do agree that prosperity affords people the opportunity to be retarded.
however, it doesn't have to be the case. if the people continue to be practical, they will become even more prosperous.

Okay, this may sound a bit "Out there", but what if the techniques they acquired in the building of their offshore airport, was used in the creation of artificial lagoons for fisheries?

Got it, fam

I think if we want to fix any birthrate bullshit we need to combat the propaganda

I'm somewhat ignorant on the topic, but apparently sushi experts say wild fish have distinct tastes or hormones or some shit that make them better.

Plus the pacific tuna that these nips are driving to extinction are fucking enormous, I dunno how fish farm logistics would work for that

There's already fish farms in existence, they'll probably do something like that when things actually become a problem. Its really not an issue right now unless you're the type that cares if a species of fish goes extinct, its not as if they're currently having any food shortages.

Yeah, it won't taste the same but that's really just a luxury. I mean most of the produce that we currently buy in stores does not taste anywhere near as good as what our grandparents had because they harvest early, if you do any of your own gardening you can tell a huge difference between home grown and store bought foods with the former being both tastier and healthier.

pretty much this.
many of our women see childbirth in a negative light for a multitude of reasons. when they make a cost/benefit analysis of it, the cost outweighs the benefit.
also, we need to thoroughly burn feminism to the ground.

Gib lebensraum in Central Asia.
t. chink

Who is that dude doing the History of Japan video?

I like him.

youtube.com/watch?v=Mh5LY4Mz15o
Bill wurtz. That was his first actual video. The others are like 20 seconds and him just meming.

It is pretty telling that women being supposed to stop having a career after having a child and men are supposed to provide for it all have only lead to an even lower birthrate than Murica + Canada despite the kind of feminism and biaised court system they have there.
Seriously, how the heck can you honestly blame "grass eaters" when having a family will either litteraly kill you from overwork, put you in the streets and generally just destroy your life, Japan?? Okay, maybe a lot of them are spineless pussies but then again, who raised them to be that way, huh?

This is why I smile in amusement every time someone here try to claim that traditional gender roles, muh famulee values as the solution to the low White birthrate. Shit no, neet, if that was actually the case the baby boomers would not have turned out the way they did! This was tried and it failed with catastrophic results for the White race.
You can tell me that ((())) caused it all, my response is that ((())) only took advantage of existing weaknesses.
We really needs to cultivate a set of values and standards that fits the modern era and which purpose is the survival and the improvement of the White race, make White society functional, not a tool to keep Whites down.

Don´t be fooled by tradcon propaganda, there has never been any golden age in the past, the only one that is exists in the future, if we can make it happen!


#1, we need Hitlerjugend-type organizations to teach the next generations not to be soft, selfish pussies. Teache Reason, work ethic, fortitude, working in Groups and being sociable etc.
This is especially important with the kind of parents and prospective parents we have today, would you really trust the majority of them to do a good job?!? Of course not! We can´t afford anything less than good.
The medias, TV series and movies have a duty to promote positive values to Whites as well.
This step means firing all these teachers that only teaches the evils of White Privilege + virtues of cuckoldry and trostkism-feminism, we don´t lose anything by getting ride of them.

#2, make sure that those Whites that have children, especially when these chidlren are small, are getting a helping hand form other White people (and White society in general).
We cut down the COSTs of having families and we must have stable jobs (IE muh socalesm!), we´ll make it into a good trade deal instead of a shitty one like now. Get what I mean?
Maybe Libertarians here can explain how fully free markes will result in great numbers of stable jobs?

Yeah that turned out so well last time.

Your spelling is shit.

I don't think it's the standard of living itself, it's the delaying of adulthood, thanks to the education system taking longer and longer to teach the same shit.

Birth rates is a massive problem you fucking retards. With the current birth rates of countries like Poland (1.4) each generation will be 2/3 of the one before. In just 5 generations (100-150 years) that's 0.13% of the current population, ie a nation like Poland with 30 million people will have 3-4 million people living there. In another 5 generations it will be less than a couple of 100 000.

Low birth rates is practically genocide, stop arguing this.

Easy solution (after uncucking), take third-world clay and sand. Delete local infestation with neutron bombs and bioweapons.

Belgian Congo and South Africa have a lot of land but are hellholes because infestation. Same with Mexico and Turkey.

Think, what is the best option, Turkey keeps existing or Greece and Armenia sharing a border? -D

Sparta had a good idea

Russia is far from the cuckoldry in the west, yet their birth rate is 1.7 (or lower).
You need a good, strong, healthy and growing economy and a non-cucked social setting.

Are you dumb or just pretending?

The social structure is very feudalistic, women are considered to be somewhat equal, globalization had an impact on Japan as well + they got jewed: youtube.com/watch?v=p5Ac7ap_MAY

If you give your average man more than a shoebox, tell women to get their hoe ass back to the kitchen and bar them from working and fix the jew economy hitler style and you'll have a working country with a good birth rate.

Ain't gonna happen though. They're already importing the lesser asian races for labor and race mixing purposes.

Bullshit. Teach people how to farm and give them land and everything is A OK. Just look at the Amish. Their main problem these days is that land in some areas is too expensive so they're forced to move elsewhere if they want to expand.

Capitalism runs its course with a few people owning the vast majority of capital in the long run and wanting to turn your wife into an equally paid work slave as well which leads her to cuck you with whatever stronger or wealthier guy she can get with as she doesn't rely on you anymore.

Jews only speed up this process.

Japan has low birth rates and an aging population and you want to remove half the population from the current and future labor pool and create all kinds of problems and unrest and tank the economy.

I can't imagine why the governments of the world don't just turn to Holla Forums for help whenever they have problems.

Not really. The population density is pretty low compared to Chinese cities.

The countryside is becoming empty.


The Amish have recognized: Technological progress is the work of the devil and separates you from god.

I'm not a christcuck but if you don't realize that automation doesn't work in the favor of average joe but a few jews and technocrats that want to start human farming a la matrix soon you aren't very redpilled yet.

The hard and humble farmers life is the only way to go if you want to have loads of kids, a wife that knows her role (women just can't farm like men for purely physical reasons alone) and feel like a man and not like a work slave.

Supporting a woman and a few kids doesn't cost much in terms of resources.

Women that don't want to marry and have kids or are too ugly to do so should just be removed from the gene pool anyway.

If they'd become self reliant and run a national socialist economy like Hitler did along with withdrawing from jew globalization everything will be awrite.

tax 2nd income in households to discourage childless marriages and promote women having children, also opens up more positions for men to be sole breadwinners
tax breaks for families with more than 2 children

problem solved in theory

Taxation doesn't make a woman's pussy wet for average joe.

Being barred from working, needing a man to survive and strong social shaming does.

A large percentage of Japanese women are all holding out for a prince charming that will never come and men are increasingly marginalized by a globalized jew economy and can't afford to raise kids anyway.

Withdraw from jew economy and force women to marry and you got a healthy society.

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Think about just the entertainment industry alone (which is huge in Japan). All female singers, idols, actresses, voice actresses, models, manga artists, animation workers, game developers, writers, producers, executives etc. get kicked out. The jobs they did, the jobs they created, the money they generated–all gone. And it wouldn't be just a temporary setback.

Nurses, doctors, waitresses, clerks, salespeople, secretaries, lawyers, psychiatrists, scientists, hairdressers, janitors, hotel staff, innkeepers–all of these jobs and more would also lose a lot of people.

And then there's uproar caused by business owners having their business seized by the state, and people getting unemployed en masse.

Ban plastic bottles, launch projects to properly clean tap water, make sure all white families have extra filtering systems, stop adding fluoride. Return to normalcy, encourage white births by paying parents.

You're thinking like a jew or brainwashed blue pilled guy. Whites and waps can function just fine without much of an economy.

Just because there is always chaos in nigger and spic lands doesn't mean high IQ, high cooperative people will descent into the same.

The modern economy is largely built around artificial demands and peoples misery in modern life.

People will function just fine without AIDSphones, showering every day, electricity etc.

Societies don't have to roll back thousands of years of progress just because you're a fucking idiot. If you want to live in the woods then go live in the woods.

Gonna join the Amish bruv.

Technological progress is the work of the devil / jews.

Dismantle the welfare state.

Intelligent people are not having kids because they can't afford it; every private sector worker supports two others in the public sector or welfare.

This will mean extended family living like was the norm in the past; but it's a net good that grandparents can help care for the young.

There is virtually no welfare in Japan.

Public sector is probably bloated and overpaid like anywhere else but from what I know another huge issue is large uncompetitive companies being dragged along by government investments.

Get women out of the workplace. That's the key. Stop the Feminist machine of "I have to have a good job, I am a strong woman who needs no man!" and girls will return to their fundamental natures as mothers and housekeepers again.

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The modern entertainment industry produces nothing of value to begin with.

The fact that men have to take up jobs in fields formerly dominated by women needs to be considered. I wasn't advocating banning women from work, but slowly phasing them out. Besides, a desk job that takes 2 women to handle can easily be done by one man. It's been shown that a gender imbalance in the workplace towards women reduces productivity by a lot.

Your opinion on the Japanese entertainment industry is irrelevant, and whether you like it or not it would cause significant damage and disruption if women were barred from working.

Guess what, most sweeping societal changes cause disruption. Nothing that can't be fixed within a generation or two.

Maybe you shouldn't make sweeping societal changes that don't serve any purpose except to fuck everything up.

Good, then social leeches can take the jobs or starve. Women will no longer be independent and will be forced to marry. It's a win win.

Yes it will cause some disruption for a few years, so will the initial revolution that destroys the current jewish prison system…we're well passed worrying about a few boo boos.

WE NEED TO HURRY AND BUILD TRUMPS WALL

Simple. Where religion doesn't sufficiently do it any more step in yourself.

The problem is that the current political climate in every country worth living in is quite literally Jewed. Altered through social engineering, oftentimes of Marxist origin. Uncuck it. Remove the cancer and the cancer patient no longer has cancer.

Without (((academics))) shoving the impression that living a happy family life is bad down the throats of women, women revert back into just that. With that come more healthy families and with them, a better basis to procreate and raise children.

Uncuck the economy to create a system in which there are jobs and sufficiently paying jobs for the people to start and raise families. This goes from creating a competition based system over crony capitalism all the way to removing quotas and discouraging women from working. And yes, that last bit actually helps as well.

The less women work, the lower the general offer of workforce becomes and the more the wages rise for men. So ironically, the less women hold jobs, the more they money they have available due to their husbands' wages increasing (and yes, they would increase that strongly). It's…a bit of an inconvenient detail Women's Studies professors tend to leave out.

Where nature doesn't do it's work sufficiently (and almost all of the time it will), use social pressure to close any gaps by ostracizing any women that don't have a husband by the time they're 25. Call them leechers, raisins or leftovers or some shit and encourage businesses and institutions to avoid serving/doing business with them. Maybe even put in place a raisin tax for women that not only have no husband but also create unproductive workforce offer at the expense of others. They are not doing their part after all, and hence shouldn't get to enjoy the fruits of everyone else's labour.

It really is that simple.

As for

this

purge your porn, nippanon.

do 3d sex instead of 2d.

Actually, purging porn does not increase sex rate, or even family forming.

It was the relentlous drive for making money that ruined the japanese birthrate

Is that how you think jobs work? Do you think life is a video game where you just take generic workers from a pool and have them do whatever?

Except for the reasons I just stated.

And what's going to happen in a few years? Men will undergo futuristic sex reassigment surgery so they can take over the womens' jobs like singing and acting?


Women have different sensibilities than men and everyone has their own individual sensibilities.

When the NSDAP took power they put a lot of time and energy into increasing birth rates, my guess is their strategies would of had results if not for losing the war.

And the rise of westernized feminism.

Can someone explain to me why having a low population on a small ass island is a bad thing?
Wouldn't it be better to have some space between people rather than stuffing them like tunas?

The entire society will undergo a massive restructuring during de-jewification. Entire industries will disappear, such as hollywood for starters. So yes, there will be massive undertaking to train new teachers, nurses, etc.

Singing and acting have historically always been performed by men in European culture and that's the way it should be. Singing and acting will be reduced to lower tier working class jobs anyway.

Except you didn't

The globalist argument is that you need growth to drive profits.

The nationalist argument is that the elderly cannot support themselves yet they are living longer lives with more healthcare costs.

Note that neither justify importing low-skill workers from third-world countries.

a benevolent AI system that is in charge of all communication devices, that secretly pairs up males and females according to their chance of a healthy marriage. But it makes it so appear random, like a bus that is a little bit later so that you bump up against some girl that you may like.

That would be nice.

Besides, Japan still has plenty of land to cram some extra people. It's a little bit larger than today's Germany.

So basically giving up all sense of freedom for an illusion of life.

The master race of Asia must be preserved.

Japan's population is 127 million.
Germany is 80 million.

How is Japanese entertainment Jewish? And how do you expect to just "train" someone to take the place of, say, Rumiko Takahashi?

Japan is not Europe and I and many other people like female singers and actors. They're also a necessity for a full-rounded entertainment industry.

Stop lying.

if life has become too easy, too meaningless. It has to be created. Fake hardships to build character, fake conflicts to bring people closer together.

Because why not. Beats watching society crumble because of over-perfection.

but that's the exact opposite you were talking about.

They don't have to base their culture on anime, wasn't their culture about samurai and art before anime?

They have about 340 people per square mile, unless they grow vertically they will be pretty crammed, and let's not forget that japan gets earthquakes pretty often

The fact that the word NEET has been introduced to the English language recently shows otherwise. Being able to get a job paying a livable wage at 18 is the best way to increase birth rates.

NEET is an English term in the first place.

The japs just find it amusing.

Manga is art, and anime is animated manga.

And no, Japan's culture isn't just da samurai.

Exactly, there's no need for the culture to be just anime/manga/LN

Modern Japan culture isn't just that either, just that anime/manga/LN/vidya are a huge part of it.

And these are medium, not culture.

Raunchy commercials on TV advertising fucking to make children + a baby bonus by the government if you're above a certain income bracket.

Simple.

They are also culture.

i dont see many western artists draw uguu

That's actually a solid concept. Would probably work. People are stupid.

Ban oral contraceptives. Problem solved.

But also, we don't have a birth rate problem. The population does not need to constantly increase. Advanced races like whites and Japanese reach a stable poin and don't overpopulate like shitskins do.

The only reason we are told we have a birth rate problem is because all Western economies are built on Ponzi schemes that literally require expanding population or else they will collapse. Get rid of interest and unsustainable welfare state and there is no need to expand the population.

It already did work in Denmark. Their government put out advertisements promoting reproduction with the slogan like "do it for Denmark" and their birth rates have gone up since.

Comprehensive sustainability planning: each given region can support only so many people. Determine that number and strictly limit the regional birthrate until that number is reached.

For the health of the species, give preferential reproductive rights to the best of society, not the worst.

t. virgin

tons of people have said it but I'm still saying it again

1. Our birthrates are fine, we just need to remove shitskin
2. Japan has low birthrates because they work work work all the time and it's easier to stay home and jerk off to anime tiddies than to go out, date, etc

It would.There is a good video about all of this,not in english unfortunately but there is probably something similar,that explained it all simple: that people who watch TV and see the difference between what they see and the reality,they will try to change reality to make it similar to what they watched on TV.

First of all Jewish money holds a lot more influence in Japan than you think, and subversion has gone so far they appointed a savage to be Miss Japan.

You serious?

Similar jagged thinking here

Besides


What's the problem with women keeping female roles in fiction (if they're warranted, meaning bar affirmative action shit from entertainment). What do you wanna do? Make men compete with women for female roles? Just keep entertainment (and it's press) clean politically so that demand and offer regulate what is there and let it play out from there.

No, our birth rates are down because the central banks have destroyed our capital base, redistributing purchasing power from capital (the source of young people's wages) to assets (shit old and rich people own). When you can't make enough money to start a family, you don't start a family.

End central banking and you will see a baby boom that will absolutely dwarf the one that occurred at the end of WWII.

Pointless self-destructive retardation that will never achieve their goals.

How the fuck would prohibiting women from working improve Japanese culture?

Where did I say there is a problem? I said the exact opposite. You're the ones advocating banning women from all work.

Denmark seems to be a sea of redpill among the biggest cucks ever (Sweden, Germany).

Pic related is another rare example of a germanic country that is not that cucked.

I wonder why they are based like that…

Anyone knows?

Daily whippings for the people as the punishment for the crimes.

Agrarian vs industrial societies. That is apples and oranges. We do need to stop sending them aid and let them die young like they are supposed to with that kind of high birth rate.

Once Africa industrializes (China is doing this), their birth rates will fall, they will get richer, and live longer.

Get rid of welfare. People should have to work for a living. Work makes you strong, and exercises your mind. The face to face social interaction it provides also helps both physical and mental health.

Not everyone can find or get work.

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Get rid of central banking and asset prices will fall as purchasing power returns to capital. This means more jobs, and affordable homes. This is the recipe for more children in an industrialized society.

And uguu isn't all anime, m8.

It's not just a matter of having more jobs. Jobs can have requirements that not everyone can meet.

Stop making excuses and start washing some dishes.

That's not how things work here.

Somebody that I used to know did it.

Well our econemy is in the shitter if you haven't noticed.
Housing is expensive, cars are expensive and education is required to get a decent job to afford either.

So everyone takes on massive debt and waits until they're 30+ to even consider having children. Debt isn't paid off for another 10-20 years after that.

If you want to live like you're first world you need to take on debt to keep up. Who wants to be poor and raising children. Can't even get decent help from your parents they're probably not much better off.

Oh wow, what a great anecdote.

Not an argument.

You don't need to fix it. If you have a homogenous society you can have low birth rate in your country.
If you are white for example you must have lots of white kids because if you don't shitskins will win the race war.
But no one is going to replace Japanese people with your based migration policies

dumb idea, just make sure that the country has a sufficient amount of income so that one of the parents can stay at home,preferably the mother

Meanwhile where do those interest payments everyone is paying go?

They don't go back into the Japanese economy.

Correct. Because of central banking. That is why you have to get rid of the central banks. Only then can the real recovery begin.

It will be much faster if you also cut way back on regulations and get rid of the minimum wage. This will slow automation and allow people an in so they can work hard and advance over time. Return to the days when a man could go from washing dishes to running the company over the course of 20 years, with no need to take on a bunch of student debt.

Neither is your fucking anecdote.


I don't see what central banks have to do with a dishwashing position requiring prior experience or relevant training in the restaurant business, or a janitorial position being filled based on the applicants' hobbies or charisma.

In Darwinian Africa, ecosystem consumes niggers (by disease).

Economics is all anecdotal my liberal friend.

Central banks steal the purchasing power of capital and reallocate it to assets prices. If this didn't happen, business owners would be able to hire more help, meaning there would be more jobs. Lower regulation would also decrease the costs associated with hiring, meaning even more jobs.

Many places can't even afford to hire dedicated dishwashers, so they have to have their other, higher paid positions do it in addition to their other duties, which then suffer, and/or buy expensive equipment which probably won't do as good a job.

You can't have a functioning economy without sound money. It is the basis for all economic calculation.

How am I a liberal?

Based on how you type and that answer.

Again, economics is all anecdotal as it isn't a hard science. Currently the entire world is subscribed to a Keynesian economic theory due to the fact that all central bankers are Keynesian. Except anyone in a position of influence in banking doesn't listen to Keynes warnings and it's impossible to expand currency infinitely to make up for following his theory in a flawed way.

Isn't it about time for you to return to JIDF HQ, kike?

(See, I can do this too.)

Yes but in context that makes no sense since it would be those behind the JIDF that profit extremely off of what I just posted, as well as what this user posted.

It is the way of the modern day liberal to find the easiest way out of an argument they can't win, or perhaps that they don't understand completely. I baited you with it implying you were a liberal, to which you took.

Nice try, JIDF.

Hahaha, thanks for confirming

It seems like a bot to me. I really can't think that someone can't into discussions this badly.

Kill all leftists, outlaw atheism would be a good start. Also can use economic incentives

Haha, thanks for confirming you're JIDF.


Someone accuses me of being a liberal for no reason and I make an equally random counter-accusation. What's the problem?

population growth = consumption growth = "economy growth" = more money for the kikes. the average citizen obviously doesn't benefit from this, so they have to shill it by claiming that the nation will die out if no measures are taken.

denmark used to rule those cucks

Ok I retract my claim that you are a liberal because it triggers you so much. Now ignore everything above this sentence and try to make an argument against what I type. Hint: it's exactly the same from the posts above.


You can also try to reply to this post he didn't call you a liberal.

More specific. The west needs more bodies to have debt to keep the economy going.

Why? I don't even know what you're trying to argue about or what it has to do with me.

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The debt-based currency of International Jewry.

Usury is cancer. Death to "Hochfinanz."

Hilary 2016

I don't think that's feasible. No one will go along with it if the intent is simply genocide anytime soon. Maybe for the glory of an Imperium or for revenge… but the days of meeting savages on the other side of the world for the first time and subsequently having war with them for whatever reasons are pretty much long gone. Even then, we rarely if ever completely eradicated our enemies.

Get rid of videogames and non-shonen anime, for one. Your adult men are manchildren who live in a fantasy world. Instead replace that shit with mandatory conscription.

Ban all kinds of porn too.

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Nah.

hello literal 12 years old boy

You said "Somebody that I used to know did it." Are you seriously trying to defend that? It's a useless anecdote about some guy you know. It doesn't mean anything. It has no value.

Yes, it was a reference to NatSoc Germany and what they did to "fix" their economy. I guess you didn't catch that and is where we are at a disagreement.

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Sure thing, champ.

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you aren't denying you are a 12 years old boy

Hello summer friend

Pretty sure I didn't say anything about Germany or its 80 million people.

Required military service for all men. And only people who have children can vote.
That way those man hating 40 year old feminist can't put politicians into office.
Also /r9k/ can't vote.

You need to be hit on the head with a stick.

Seriously what the hell is up with all you cucks ITT

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That'll toughen us up. It used to be working on a farm or joining the football team would toughen the men up. Now the men sit around and play COD, there needs to be structure, there needs to be a filter which takes out the cucks.

lolno.

the day I stop yanking my crank and playing vidya is the day I die.

That "someone" he used to know was the entire nation of Germany and he even posted a chart reflecting their full employment after a few short years. Stop being retarded.

And what makes you thing the military would do that?

Stay mad.


Top kek m8. Shonen, at least to my knowledge, has a good message for children. My little brother likes it a lot. Because cartoons are for children, you know.


I expected no less from someone that masturbates to chink drawings.

You're part of the problem then. If all you do is masturbate and play video games you're a waste of a man.
You don't have to give up those things, just do something else too, faggot.

Uncucking our military would help. By making them 100% separate from politics so the president won't enact "feel good" policies.
Those men are at least not fat losers. At the very least mandatory military service will cut down on obesity and neets.

Are all of you weebposters nips? There is a distinct absence of your cancer in threads that don't mention Japan. Is that it? Are we getting raided by you soy-eating subhumans?

yeah, those valuable lessons like summoning a blue doppelganger to stop time and kill vampires. children will remember them and guide them toward a good future

You don't even know who I am, don't jump to conclusions.

Assumptions are terrible ways to argue.

How? Sure someone would lose weight after 8 weeks of intense exercise but whats stopping them from putting it right back on once they get the training out of the way? And I don't see how it has anything to do with NEETS

That sounds like a perfect recipe for a coup down the road.

Predictable reply. I was referring to all the 'muh friendship' tropes and you know it.

Though coming from someone autistic enough to save countless pictures of drawn children I really shouldn't be surprised.

We need the resources dumbass.

HE HAS FRIENDS

You think those are good morals? Its called predictable feel good writing.

muh friendship tropes or le working hard for your goal are very thinly veiled and just a device for various shenanigans occuring in the comic or cartoon, which are made for entertainment and not for education

if you really believe he will really learn something from naruto or dragon ball, you're in for a rude awakening once he starts widening his weeaboo horizons

ぼくは日本人じゃねえよ。


Those tropes generally suck and there are better ones within shounen anime, like determination and surpassing oneself. You're a faggot and have no idea what you're talking about.

Children cost too much, this is why people are so reluctant to have them.

The first steps would be to relax child-labour laws and allow them to start earning a living sooner, rather than at the age of majority.

Bring back apprenticeships.

Make education free, but also resolve all the major concerns with it beforehand, otherwise it would be a giant money pit.

THIS HAS TO STOP

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Education_Board#Philosophy


Specializations: allowing kids to focus on a career goal, rather than a redundant set of skills they won't use or apply.

Literacy: Get them reading as soon as humanly possible. This is a cornerstone as to why the Jews are so successful. The Rockefeller Institute crippled literacy rates.

Math: Almost as important as literacy, yet many people find it difficult or even incomprehensible.

Reduce or Eliminate the Standardized Testing Procedures Already in Place: The stricter the testing standards, the higher the rate of burnout, and the lower the national birthrate.

Testing standards in Japan are absurd and have caused many people to justifiably withdraw from society.

In the U.S. even cucks like John Oliver can point out the myriad of idiosyncratic flaws in the way tests are written. There's no rhyme or reason.

Education has gone from pure political indoctrination, to a ritualistic practice of confusion & maladjustment.

We're no longer seen as wage slavers; we're being readied for a life of chattel slavery.

This does not bode well.

But your country is filled with millions of people already, if you somehow manage to slow down the population decline you will end up like China or India

Are you fucking retarded? I know you only get off on gore and pornography but we're talking about children here.

Delicious. Please keep posting boxes.


I grew up with Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon and I'm just fine. Most of my childhood friends did the same and aren't degenerate neets like yourself.

No YOU are not me. You wanted to "ban all anime but shounen" that effects everyone not just muh children.

"Power of friendship" only really works in a homogeneous country like Japan, not any of ours. Power of friendship to kids in our countries means Patel and Tyrone is your son's Krillen and Yamcha or whomever.

Also you're moving goalposts by talking about children. In the same breath you expressed "all anime but shounen, video games, and porn." I'm not aware of children that watch porn much less understand it.

those are implemented better in every single other anime genre, even shoujo

Oh wait you're another autist. Never mind that last bit.

I am a real Nip. Real in my mind

The birth rates have less to do with culture than economics. I'm getting sick and tired of having to point this out:

IF YOU SOCIALIZE THE BENEFITS OF SOMETHING, YOU GET LESS OF IT!

Not only do people with generous pay-as-you-go social security programs not have any incentive to have children, the moment you have one that baby is drowning in debt.

You aren't thinking like a white

Every generation hates the following generations.
The generation before you hated you; you hate Gen Y (millennials); Gen Y hate Gen Z; Gen Z will hate Gen Alpha.
It's been like this since the fucking Roman times.

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." - although a lot of people think Socrates said that, that's a translated quote from a play that was written 2439 years ago. People are people, the only reason the older generations seem smarter is that the dumbasses all either died off or got themselves in prison.

Japan is already introducing robot workers, innit?

Sorry, I meant Greek times.

Remind women that you can work from home, so you can care for children and make money in your spare time.

Gardening
Writing
Art
Music
Programming
Tailoring
Tutoring
Food packaging
Dry cleaning
Medicine
Carpentry

The list goes on. I'm sure you can help your wife find something she loves and that can make some money.

Stop claiming I said things I didn't.


You're the one who's mad.

Anime isn't cartoons, and most anime isn't made for children.

Japan is cucked. Stop this bullshit meme about them being nationalistic. Their actual nationalist party has almost no members. It's time for you to stop trying to suck the dick of anyone that isn't your own race or nation by saying "lol dey nationalist muh shitskin allies"

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FTFY. Sorry Wong but I don't really care about your 'right' to masturbate to drawings of children.

Start with a windowsill garden to grow some herbs and seasonings, and work your way up from there.

Chicks LOVE botanical stuff.

And marine Biology….

So, you know…. aquaponics.

Our birth rates aren't broken. Close the borders and expel nonwhites and there's no problem. You don't need a billion people.

thanks for inflating my dick motherfucker

Because it's true. Cartoons and anime have virtually nothing in common.

I'm not a weeb and you have no idea what the word means.

And I don't really care about your opinion.

Low birth rates were a globalist plan against the white man.

So is mass immigration. Its genocide plain and simple.

You have to fix the banks first before you can have a lower population.

And now that warfare technology has progressed to the point that it has, we don't even need a huge population for soldiering purposes.


Beauty is attractive isn't it. Not even a single nude pic.

Who do you remind me of, user?

I wish they would get to the cutting welfare parts already.

Who do you remind me of, user?

Ok then, tell me what you think is so similar about these two:

Cartoon: youtube.com/watch?v=1YjpAQJirI8

Anime: youtube.com/watch?v=rR1cMPnMcaY

It kind of is, it falls within the definition. The word "cartoon" usually just refers to any kind of fictionalized illustration -still or animated- but colloquially it means "any kind of animated drawing".
The Japs themselves don't consider anime and cartoons to be different things, "アニメ" is just the Japanese word for "animation", in fact it comes from that word.

See above. Completely different.

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Are you paying attention to what I'm saying, user?
Cartoon is an extremely loose word, I think you have a misunderstood meaning of it.

Get the government out of relationships and procreation.

The current system is too high risk. Anything where a man can marry a woman and she can arbitrarily dissolve that union at any time with no fault and then take half or more of everything the man owns, including assets acquired before the marriage, his retirement, his inheritance, and potentially his income for the rest of his life while the government supports, condones, and enables that behavior is completely insane.

There is zero point to the government being involved with marriage. The supposed tax "benefits" could be taken care of by just modifying the dependent credit system.

There's some benefit to arbitration when children are involved, but what we have now for that too needs to be entirely thrown out. Every aspect of it from top to bottom is total trash, is not equitable, and does nothing but dissuade people from having children.

Utterly abolish what we've got now and you're off to a good start. If the government wanted to really get serious about encouraging procreation, they would not only do that, but also give heavy tax breaks for children. Giving you "up to a thousand dollars" a year for a working family to have a child is a joke when you're redistributing tens of thousands of dollars per child to niggers who do not work and just make a career out of shitting out future convicts. Penny for penny, a working family should have the same benefit a non-working one does when it comes to having children. If that breaks the system, which it probably would, then use some common sense and reduce the benefits all around until you've got something equitable.

The difference is that we've historically had very few adult-oriented cartoons (until more recently, and they're all complete shit anyway), most being directed at younger people, while anime covers every demographic in strides. That's why it was a bit shocking for western audiences when something like Akira came over.

But aren't most Jap cartoons are aimed towards little girls?

My nigga.

Also, in a happier world we wouldn't be doling out trillions in (((foreign aid)), and offering generous birth stipends" or whatever to encourage healthy young couples to have children would be nothing ( so no more of that "lel wed love to but can't afford a baby shit from white couples).

The anime has:

- completely different character design that's very detailed and realistic with just some stylization
- "limited animation," very different from the "full animation" seen in cartoons
- very complex and dynamic camera work that you would find in live action cinema, as opposed to the flat camerawork of cartoons
- complex and mostly realistic fight choreography that you would see in similar live action movies
- realistic, high quality backgrounds
- cinematic, high quality music that's very different from cartoon music in its sound and purpose

The anime is a also serious work meant for adults, not just a humorous short made for a quick laugh.

So again, how are they the same thing?


It has a very clear meaning, but people usually intentionally lie about what it is because they have an agenda.


Most anime is not made for children.

Anime and video-games are not an enemy at all. Since I grew up in an emotionless, awkward leftist family I was bound to become a robot BUT by watching anime my robo-bubble burst and I actually got to see how human relationships can be beautiful. I corrected my behavior from robot to human and pol shed a light of enlightenment and here I am chatting up a qt Aryan loli, spreading redpills and enjoying life without degeneracy.

And since I never had to do any physical work I learned the importance of self-improvement from RPG games. It's all up to how you adopt it I guess.

Shounen is the most popular demographic which are younger boys, teenage boys, and young adult men. Most anime-related art is of females ranging from adorably innocent to outright erotic, covering the full gamut of what men find attractive.

Men are certainly the biggest demographic just like most people that play video games are men.

No it doesn't.
The definition as follows, taken straight from a dictionary.

1.
A simple drawing showing the features of its subjects in a humorously exaggerated way, especially a satirical one in a newspaper or magazine.
1.1 (also cartoon strip) A narrative sequence of humorous drawings in a comic, magazine, or newspaper, usually with captions
1.2 A simplified or exaggerated version or interpretation of something

2.
A film using animation techniques to photograph a sequence of drawings rather than real people or objects
[AS MODIFIER]: cartoon characters

3.
A full-size drawing made by an artist as a preliminary design for a painting or other work of art.

Incentive having children, give white couples money to have 3+ children

If you look at the Wikipedia entries for Ghibli, Disney, American animation and anime you will see very pronounced differences in how "cartoon" is used and how much. It's uncommon for anime fans to refer to anime as cartoons. It's very common for enemies of anime to go out of their way to call it "cartoons" and "children's cartoons." If you protest that anime and cartoons are not the same thing, someone will usually something like: "You're just ashamed to admit you watch cartoons."

Cartoon is not a synonym for animation, as is commonly (and usually dishonestly) claimed. It means the kind of animation that was produced in America starting in the early 20th century.

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Are you for real? I am not CITING Wikipedia, I am pointing out differences in word usage in different articles.

This is what weebcucks actually believe!

Cartoons are not defined by their camera works.

Confirmed for never having thrown a punch in his life.

Unless you're talking about Berserk, which is a MANGA, you're completely full of shit.

Putting your shit taste aside, soundtrack does not define something being cartoons or not.

Reminder that policies like that are more than possible (as in, your home being paid off or nearly paid off at 3+ children) but a high birthrate also means the need for lebensraum.

it…it is


you're right actually, anime/manga produced the great story that is the Legend of the Galactic Heroes

Vast majority of animation outside Japan uses one perspective for the whole scene. Whether it's done on purpose or due to laziness the pattern still stands.

Anime is no good either, it's just more Panem et Circenses to keep us placated and preoccupied

Someone forgot to take his autism pills this morning.


and?

This is detrimental to the quality of the work. More potential perspectives means greater variety and the opportunity to see things from a new perspective. Purposely lacking this quality without a stylistic reason, i.e. laziness, I makes for a mediocre product.

"Entertainment" does not automatically equal bread and circuses. That's a myopic point of view and rather insulting to the rich tapestry that are the various forms of art and storytelling that have emerged since man first put pigments upon stone walls or made holes in an animal bone to produce sound.

It's not going anywhere because we all need things to share around the campfire; things to aspire to, things to fantasize about, and things to share with one another for pure enjoyment. Too bad for you types that protest life itself.

Nice post you have there, user. I bet it took you a lot of effort. You reallly wanted me to see that post, didn't you? Must have thought I didn't mean it when I said you were filtered. Was I that important to you?


Too bad.

My life has been a cringefest I won't even deny it all due to my autistic self in the past.

literally in this ZOGtv media world anime and manga have been huge influences on how i view human relationships
many of the only decent modern romance stories ive seen/read were created by nips
and as for themes
hero culture, the importance of struggling against all odds in the face of a cruel and bleak world
heavily reinforced by animu and mango

Exactly.

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Their clothes are realistic and detailed. They consist of many different parts that look and act like they're physically separate from each other and from the characters' bodies. They have creases in them, and in a closeup you can even see the collar of the hero's coat is a little ragged. Everything is also properly shaded.

The characters themselves look realistic aside from their heads being a little stylized.

Cartoons are defined by camera work where the characters are fully or almost fully in the frame, and the camera is at center height and oriented towards the scene at a 90 degree angle so it seems like the characters could be standing on a stage in front of a matte painting. The camera often moves left and right to track the characters. This is typical cartoon animation and what you see most of the time.

Anime is defined by cinematic camera work, i.e. exactly the kind of camera work you'd see in live action.

I said it's mostly realistic and something you would see in similar live action movies. I didn't say it's realistic, period. Confirmed for not having reading comprehension.

Pic related: a couple of backgrounds from TV anime.

There were no vocals in that clip, and if you think this for example is "squealing" then maybe it's time get your ears checked:
youtube.com/watch?v=KHhWsRBdvLk

Cartoons have a musical style called "Mickey Mousing" where the music is very closely synchronized to the action to the point that it's less like music and more like sound effects.

Cartoon music:
youtube.com/watch?v=GrjxtNYhTCc

Anime music:
youtube.com/watch?v=CMgpN7IxkzQ

As I have told you already, cartoons and anime two different things. And it's just a plain fact that Sword of the Stranger is a serious work intended for adults.

My aegis against Jewry.

That's what you keep getting wrong.

The moment you stop telling women over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over that if they dare do anything that fits into a female role they are oppressive pieces of shit, of low value and should frankly go kill themselves, throughout all of their time of growing up, they stop trying to be men and go back to being women. You don't need to forbid them from working, at most you just have to discourage it. Do that shit that the feminists keep falsely claiming society would do. This goes for all brands of useful idiots but generally if the stuff they write and talk about and claim to be true, was true in real life, the world would be a much better place than it is now.

The reason you don't seem to get to that point Is because you still have an essential falsehood burnt into your mind. At least that's my guess as to why. Here is the dark truth.

Even if you raise a girl from the start pretending that she's a boy and impose on her the values and responsibilities that belong to men, she will still have tits, she will still have a smaller body than she would if she were a boy, she will still not have a penis, she will still have a uterus, and the moment you don't deliberately gender interactions with her (this has been tried at least twice AFAIKO), she soon reverts back to assuming a completely female role in interactions again.

Gender is not a social construct. Men and women have not only different bodies, but also measurably different brains, and both of it is not just steered and socially engineerable through hormones, but written into their DNA before they're more than a single cell. And that also largely affects their behavior and the way they develop.


The same way it does outside of the entertainment industry.


I think we're getting closer to you getting to it. But here's a little help to get an idea where it's supposed to go. In a functional society, especially one where men make up the majority of the population, women aren't supposed to be single and provide for themselves. They're supposed to have men for that. And by men, I don't mean an army of anonymous men who provide through them through taxes, but husbands with which they share their finances. The optimum that you cannot reach but must always strive towards is that there is no such thing as a woman without a husband. And when there's more women than men, that's simply where polygamous marriage comes into play. The optimum is that all women have someone to provide for them and all men have someone to provide for.

Douche-bags like you aren't real polaks.

Just admit you don't belong here and I'll make it stop.

forgot pic

That was genuinely funny, I chuckled. You should point the smug at the other direction, this is friendly fire.

blankfag detected.

The fuck does thatwall of text have to do with anything I said?

No more female voice actresses means no more female characters, which means extreme restrictions for anime content and severe monetary losses (female characters and their actors are extremely popular). The loss of female anime workers would mean serious labor shortages for an industry that's already stretched thin and works at a relentless pace (well I'm sure Korea won't mind the extra work coming their way). Women are also heavily involved in making manga (Rumiko Takahashi is one of the most successful manga artists ever), and all those artists would be gone. Idol groups like the AKB48 empire would all disband, female singers would go away, the entire gravure industry would disappear, TV dramas and movies would no longer have female actresses…

Your plan is obviously sound and Japan should put it into practise immediately. I can see no flaws with it and it would definitely not cause enormous economic problems and social unrest and most likely terrorism.

nice double dubs
do you know the name of that song??

I have no love for degenerates of any kind. Furries, faggots, weebs and ponyfags don't belong in this movement. Fix your shit if you actually want to be taken seriously.

No, sorry, I'd also like to know. those birthing hips though


When smug dissipates, the triggered babyface can be seen. Amazing.

there is an important distinction to be drawn between a fan of the medium and a weeb. A weeb is obsessed, a fan just enjoys the content and moves on. There is nothing wrong with being a fan

Oh well I'd do things to that snail

Why aren't you banging your 'loli' girlfriend mr. Alpha male? Oh right, you can't stick your dick in computer screens.

Are you sure she isn't cheating on you with her cartoon senpai?

Weeb means weeaboo which means wapanese which means wannabe Japanese. A weeaboo doesn't even necessarily watch anime, and although they are obsessed in some sense it's a superficial kind of obsession and their understanding of anime and Japan is shallow.

And there isn't even anything wrong with being obsessed with something.

Well there are two sides to this one is of course obvious.


And nothing of value was lost.

Also


Even if anime largely died, people would probably barely notice.

Alternately if you need anime but in an authoritarian society that strives towards he optimum here is what you do.

you know what I mean


Wrong, weeb (I should say Otaku, don't want to trigger your autism). Being obsessed with anything is bad. it's fine to have strong beliefs/goals/etc, but being obsessed about something is bad

There is like 50 years of material in the back log for them to watch. I have TBs of unwatched anime on a hard drive to still get to.
But I don't want to interact with 3D women, they are really nasty most of them have already fucked 7 other guys before 19. Not having seasonal airing anime wouldn't change that.

I'd say "weeb" itself has become a breakaway term that essentially means "Western anime Otaku" because people seem to dislike using Otaku for various reasons.

The average weeb, everyone.

D&c to make higher races fight amongst themselves. Don't fall for it.

Geez charge your phone user!

Definitely incorrect mental gymnastics on your part. An obsession's "goodness" depends on what is being obsessed over. Being obsessed with beauty is not bad. Fuck you for even suggesting that.


Because shills and normalfags aren't familiar with Japanese nomenclature. They brandish "weeb" in the same way tumblr brandishes all its isms: to browbeat people into submission with words. It's not an argument and never will be.

Here's the Japanese word for normalfag: リア充 "riajuu" which sounds like "real jew."

That's why I'm not even mentioning the cunts shittalking anime. I just think weeb has a new and distinct meaning. I'd call myself that before calling myself an Otaku, and my figure shrine sits between an Empire of Japan flag and a German Empire flag.

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Well more alpha then the guy posting pepes with tumblr urls, that's enough for me.

Nice

ob·sess
əbˈses/
verb
preoccupy or fill the mind of (someone) continually, intrusively, and to a troubling extent

You continually think of beauty all day? Sounds pretty faggy to me.

It's hard having a philia for these two in this ugly age.

Not my fault effeminate weebs will cower before the power of kek.


Are you also polisexual, user?

If my conversion is correct, the anime industry's value in 2013 was over $146 million. So that money would be gone, and many, many people would lose their jobs (not just people directly involved in making anime, but figure manufacturers for example). The music, manga, light novel and game industries would also suffer.

Do you really, seriously think that's how it works? They would just find something else to do that would be equally unproductive. Although it isn't actually that unproductive since many people go from fans to professionals or at least make some money on the side.

I don't think anything of value would be lost if you were to die, so by that logic why don't you just kill yourself? Putting aside your personal opinions, Japan has a large music industry and the AKB48 empire is one of its biggest successes, and then there's all the other idol groups. Again money and jobs would be lost.

How?

Yes I'm sure that >$146 million industry that puts out something like 80-100 new titles or more every three months and regularly tops the box office would just go quietly into the night.

Creative work is not assembly line work where anyone can be easily replaced to produce the same results.


Weeb and otaku are not the same thing.

Why?

No its the tumblr part silly. I don't really take 3d people with blue hair very seriously.

Because it's not something he approves of I guess. Commissar-like attitude is what that is.

There are almost no people who can tell you what they mean when they say "weeb." They keep saying it but they can never explain it. Even SJWs are better at explaining themselves.

Oh I totally get you. Their cartoon versions are vastly superior! Who cares about human interaction when you have EPIC 2D lolis, amrite?

Another one from tumblr, just for you.

What a sad existence you are. Stay mad, shill.

Now you're getting it!
pls don't use epic again though
also desist with the tumblr browsing and you will be all squared away

ob·sess
əbˈses/Submit
verb
preoccupy or fill the mind of (someone) continually, intrusively, and to a troubling extent.
it just is.


actually kill yourself you fucking illiterate weeb nigger

It's just like fucking racist, I don't give a shit that weeb is an accurate description of my existence. I watch at least half a dozen shows every season plus stuff out of the infinite back while having figs and manga.


Well once people started using weebshit to describe the things that Western anime fans like, it just started to become that those people are then weebs. Whether it's supposed to derogatory or not, at least some of us have begun to use it to self-describe for various reasons of sarcasm, irony, or apathy. An Otaku is on another level entirely though. I don't think you can even qualify to use that title without learning the language and accumulating database-like level knowledge of the technical aspects and production information for shows.

I know right? Oh woe is me, who unlike you don't have a loli waifu and I'm instead force to fuck real girls and engage in actual human interaction!


Top kek you just admitted that your kind is degenerate. Now please return to your containment board, I promise you'll be safe from those mean tumblr boogeymen!

I thought you would prefer the term boogyxirs?

Good. Over a hundred million dollars back in the pockets of the people to spend on higher quality food, education, housing and other things, which further drives up the demand for those and creates more jobs there.


You probably think at this point "This is ridiculous, if this would really work out however it does why aren't people doing it?"


A lot of money depends on the cancer remaining big and getting even bigger. You seriously believe that this is all an accident and people wouldn't take deliberate steps to keep things the way they are? It's time to show your nose.

I dunno, since you're so scared of real people I just threw a catch-all term.

Who ever said that, nice trips?

I dunno man, what could possibly give me that idea? Yeah, you're most likely a hardened martial artist with a beautiful physical aryan wife and +3 children.

Yes let's just remove everything from the world that you personally don't like. You must be the God-Emperor of mankind or something. Or just a raving narcissistic lunatic.

Many people will be left unemployed, and those who spent a lot of their money on anime aren't going to suddenly get serious about life. Japan's economy is also not going to survive on just people buying food and houses.

I don't have any idea what the fuck you're talking about.

You're shitposting about anime on a Siberian cave art research forum, what makes you so special?

Not only are you talking out of your ass but you're also incapable of comprehending of who you're talking to: people who aren't even weebs. It's blatantly obvious you're not a real polak, just a shitposter. You'd do us all a favor by killing yourself.

Seriously, that bait is low energy, just end your life already.

Oh so you're just another /a/ shitposter.

Filtered and reported.

No, but I'm not "scared of real people". Believe it or not it is possible to have a hobby and interact with other humans at the same time.

Get the fuck off this board.

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Naw, it's just how a shitposter announces his defeat when you start tonguing his bait lewdly. Have to be as scummy about it as possible, ya know?

OH NO!

Might be the funniest version of this joke I've ever seen.


Personally, I get disgusted by people pretty easily but fearing them certainly isn't on the table. If anything I pity them though.

A look at popular culture and the people that adhere to it is all any lucid person needs to understand why I would be disgusted by this material world.

Huh, you're right actually. Pol enlightens me again.

Having injections into the mother's spine(epidural) during childbirth as is regular and typical makes birth take 10x longer than natural childbirth. I've never heard of anybody using nitrous oxide.

I don't think it is really possible for the US to outbreed immigration. You'd have to reach an insane population level to make mexicans a negligible minority. And any program designed to increase white birth rate will have a splash effect on other races. Even if you explicitly only give benefits to white couples, you'll be creating a culture where breeding is seen as a good thing even for other races. Not to mention such a program would be constantly up against a wall of shitlibs.

The shitlibs are what are going to be up against the wall, and the mexicans on the other side of it.

It starts and ends with the culture. Religion is dead but the religious instinct still exists in everyone.

The more time passes the more dissatisfied I get with the 3D world, or mostly the Western part of it.

People are masturbating themselves senseless watching rape scenes in Game of Thrones, patting themselves on the back for being so mature, and telling me to grow up.

Do you really need to ask, user?

Now that's an Alabama two-bagger if I ever saw one.

However, with that disgust comes the ambition to change it into something better.

The world is lacking two things: beauty and romance, both of which are very cultural. Rather, these things have been supplanted by inferior replicas: mediocrity and sexuality. I think sensible people will be drawn to the higher ideal when they see it, they just aren't seeing it. All they are seeing is the muck that is contemporary pop culture with its ass-shaking negresses and other lowest common denominator cultural elements meant to appeal to the basest of instincts – the animal instincts. Uncontrollable breeding is also part of that instinct.


It's not really possible in any country where the immigrant population is 20-30% or more which is most western countries I believe, the US would have the hardest time with this because it's nearly 50% nonwhite. We aren't animals that breed uncontrollably to the point that our ecosystem and societies suffer greatly. That's something a disease would do. No, we're more like curators – emphasis on "cure." That means ethnic cleansing when required. No ethnic cleansing will result in a loss of the people. Historically this has happened many, many times already. It is "racial chaos" and hopefully it doesn't get repeated in this era or it may spell our end.


They're disconnected from the idea of Platonic love which goes beyond material desire. Everything today in popular culture is designed to appeal to the most animal side of man via materialism and hedonism. It inflames our base desires and instincts rather than our highest, romanticized ideals which require some self-control.

People are like water, especially today… they will slide down the easiest route and not really think about where it's going, like lemmings. They would also mock us for wanting to climb up the mountain rather than settle at the bottom to stagnate and become a cesspool.

so familiar….. some crazy jewess with huge tits. anyone care to remind me?

CommunismKills.

That is fine, prime aryan pussy. So are you a nigger-loving white boy who thinks twerking and giant asses are a turn on? Or perhaps you are a 900 lb neckbeard with a fedora who thinks only supermodels with doctorates are eligible for your sperm?

Romanticism.

Repackage and reclaim the quiverfull movement.

Seriously. It's really appealing to christcucks, and we're not going to be getting rid of them anytime soon. Hell, the quiverfull movement is appealing to some pagans, too!

Make a version for Christians, a secular version, and a pagan version and you'll have a new baby boom in no time.

There are 2 problems with this:
1. They aren't having enough kids, their population is getting too old
2. They should be increasing their population and moving them to Manchuria, while killing the Chinks, the way they were before America fucked with them in order to fight for world Jewry.

Bro, we can kill a lot of niggers, jews, arabs, and non-Japanese asians before we need to worry about our own birth rates being too high.

quiverfull?

The movement the duggars are kind of not really in.

Half as many babies as god will give you, essentially. Leave it in god's hands. All forms of contraception, including NFP, are seen as sinful in the quiverfull movement.

This can be repackaged to be less fucking gay, I guarantee it.

well id certainly fuck her raw for sure


lad… reminding me of Tristan and Iseult, or Diarmuid and Gianna if you want the original
funny that the archetype for all of tragic western romance in the last thousand years has its roots in a pre-Christian Celtic tale

Japan's main problem lowering their birthrates is overcrowding. Raising a new child for them is far more expensive for them than it would be for Americans. They best way for the Japanese to increase their population would be to take over some land for settlement. Their best option is to buy land from Australia in one of their sparsely populated areas.

Half = have, sorry.

That's not fucking happening in the CURRENT YEAR.

I had no clue. I know of Diarmuid but I didn't know of this correlation.

Finding this out gave me shivers because I love comparative lore/myth etc. Seeing things manifest with different names throughout the ages for example.

Yes, archetypes transcend time, religion, and so on. They exist and are so recognizable because it's reflected in our blood.

Their best option is to restructure their society to place renewed importance on rural communities and economies (there is a small effort for this currently), and gritting their teeth while bearing the die-off of their inflated elderly generations. Exponential growth is a fucking mistake that they now have to bear before returning to a stable society. They'd be fixed if every pensioner died tonight. Their birthrate and population will settle at what their country's carrying capacity is. If they reinforce their local communities, that capacity will even rise.

People characterize moe as masturbation and fetishism because those are the only things they can understand and relate to, but it's also the kind of angry sour grapes strawmanning and mud-slinging you would get from, say, the fat acceptance movement. Like moe is making them feel guilty and inferior. Anime and fit people are also both accused of being "unrealistic."

Maybe it's the same with art. There's a lot of disdain for things that are beautiful and skillful, while at the same the arts are declining in the West.

Also I have no idea if this common or not, but the more I've gotten into 2D the less I've watched porn. I almost don't watch it at all now, and I deleted nearly everything I have because it was just taking up space.

can support this claim
erotic manga has all but killed my lust for czech creampie gangbang porn

Oh, good point.

I've been realizing the fixation on "realism" but didn't really think about this angle too much (I've only touched upon it).

It may just be that the cancer has effected both sides in different ways. A strict fixation on realism as a mode of thought is actually unhealthy because it removes the possibility of what's outside of that tiny box. Reality is an envelope that can be pushed, it just takes time and willpower.

As an example, Germany during this era had an ethereal quality to it. It was like a work of art that was made manifest whether you agree with the policies or not. It was like magic made real.


Oh absolutely. It's the same for me.

Like I said, Platonic love. We're closer to it than others are. I don't even need to really fap anymore because my sexual energy is directed towards her in different ways. In fact I haven't in a few weeks and the last time I did I willingly stopped before orgasm which was a first (and only to the images produced by my mind's eye and non-erotic picture slideshows), yet I'm the degenerate.

You can really tell the inferiority of that kind of stuff. It's so hollow. At least ero works have some substance to them and isn't just people in a room fucking.

After sealing the boarders just let it dip naturally for stablisation. There's this idiotic meme of "infinite growth" but it's the worst kind of pseudoscience because a nation nor is the world infinite. It'll naturally rise back again from a future generation and in fact is already happening in Japan.

cmon lad

Thanks, Chaim, that is all I wanted from the entire conversation.

Bullshit. During the rein of soviet Russia in eastern Europe almost if not all the soviet states had a birthrate of 2.5. That number dropped in 89 with the fall of the USSR

Make it a fashion. Not even joking, if the raddest and cooles thing in society is becoming many kids, then women would want to have a shitload of kids. If you say it is for saving the world, like saving the wales, even those pseudo goody two shoes would go for it.
Fill every media with pairs having many kids, make it cool for even younger people, fill all school books with famalies that have 5 kids so children grow up with the thought that having 5 kids is normal etc.

Considering how easy it is to manipulate women through media, this isn't even a big problem.

As for men, do something similar and make sure that it is more cost-saving to have more kids, easier and cheaper to get houses and cars and shit. Next to the militia and defending the country, it has to be their second most important duty.

Rebuild society in a way that allows us to live more akin to our innate nature. See the ancient Aryans. Our ideal goal should be to come up with a system in which the Aryan man can live attuned to his nature, and develop mentally and physically how nature intended. We must redesign this old way of living in a modern sense, it is what NatSoc attempts to do. I am doubtful it does it perfect, but it does it better than any of our other systems.

The real question. How can we live according to the nature we evolved with, in a modern sense? How can we reform societal groups and hierarchies to allow man to be man, and thus spiritually healthy and more apt to procreate?

I'm glad there is at least one faggot here actually can into long term planing. The whole panic there is with these falling birthrates is that it will be bad for the welfare state. It's not bad for a population untill the number if individuals in fertile age drops so fucking low that it's inpossible to sustain a healthy population. Let the birthrate drop. You can have your kids and you can live with them. 2-3 generations living a house is a normal thing. As long as you have a job. Do you faggots really want to help the government grow?

The reason shitskins have such a high birthrate is because most of them die.

Dharma.

That will not necessarily solver their overcrowding problems. The fact is that the Japanese do not have enough land to live on. They need more land. Europe is fortunate because they have the possibility of Atlantropa. Japan needs more living space. The best way to do that is to buy more land. Europid Americans are even more fortunate than Europeans because they have massive amounts of land to settle with far less population. There are only about 225 million Europid Americans. Europe has about 650 million Europids but only about 10% more habitable land.

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Japans situation is the same as Britains
too many people and not enough land = denser populations
something like half the population of Japan is directly living in or around the Tokyo area
the same can be said of England and London
denser populations arent a problem either as long as you live in a mono-ethnic mono-cultural society, tensions dont rise at all
the Japanese though as a consequence of their diet and exercise routines live on average about 20-30 years more than your average European, and their culture has not been as degenerated by american and communist globalist ZOG propaganda compared to Europe where teen pregnancy and degeneracy push up the birthrate
the problem is the old are not retiring, this is everywhere developed, either the old are not retiring because they cant or dont want to, because they dont the standards for employment in menial jobs increases because of all the experienced older workers and the youth with no experience cant compete on equal terms
so the youth stay unemployed, become dispossesed hedonistic pleasure seekers sponging off the welfare state because that shit cleaning job in the office buildings wont even consider you for an interview unless you have 3 years experience as a cleaner, a full licence and your own bought and paid for cleaning equipment

They've got a shitton of land, rolling hills of nothingness, fertile farmland, whole islands that are nearly deserted (looking at you, Shetlands), tiny countryside villages, etc. - the only overly dense populations occur in migrant-laden major cities like London and Bradford.

Japan though legitimately does have a lebensraum problem, and while they could solve it by simply logging a few forests and putting up high-rises, building on mountains, and urbanizing small towns, they don't want to as it would betray their cultural heritage and damage the environment. I can't say I blame them. Plus mountain living a shit.

After White Genocide is stopped, then white women will call off their sex strike against White Genocide and that will improve.

For now, however, they have gone on sex strike, most specifically, against white men who they have correctly stereotyped as being sick, self-hating white anti-white traitors. It's a good practice, and one I support.
#WWSSAWhiteGenocide

I know you're a troll, but my god. Do you seriously beleive advocating for wiping out a native population because of 'muh multiculturalism feels' is going to help anything? You lunatics advocate for cultural genocide while claiming to be enlightened. Yet you have no concept of pride in anything but the decay and degradation of a society because it somehow failed you in one way or another.

You are apart of a group of the saddest fucking people I have ever seen. I can't hate you because, in the long run, you were brainwashed into believing this shit. Instead, I can only feel pity because rather than finding an actual purpose in life, you decide to pretend you actually give a damn about some cause because it gives you some artificial sense of purpose.

I feel sorry for you. If you actually are a woman behind that avatar, I really feel sorry for you. And if you're a man? I feel even more pity because it's obvious you have never had a strong male role model to show you what it truly means to be proud of yourself.

I'd filter you, but palemoon doesn't like that option for some reason.

believe*

Forgive the typos. I tend to type faster than I actually think.

Implying 2.5 is a good number. That's barely above the replacement rate of 2.1. You have any clue how many families used to piss out a bunch of babies? In the 1800s, I think most families had at least four children. Hell, at some points in my own family line, parents would have up to 9 kids. 2.5 is disgraceful in comparison, and will only lead to a slow growth of a society and of intelligent individuals to lead a society.

He is 200% a shitposting avatarfag.

Yeah what's with that? I have to use waterfox.

I know. I see his faggot ass pop up every now and then. I just could never pin-point whether it is actually a man, or if it's some salty femicunt posting behind that dyke avatar. Either way, the more I see this mindset in people, the more I pity them for being so weak. They evidently have no feelings of self-value if they so easily grasp to an ideology that means their own destruction. But like a cult, this type of mindset draws in those who need some kind of purpose in their life.

It really makes me feel sorry for the person behind that avatar as they have no value aside trolling as a male feminist on a basket weaving page.

He's some retard from another chan that died over a year ago. He's basically human garbage and a huge faggot. Don't bother pitying him.

Yeah but Millennials hate there own generation.

give more retirement money to people who worked for atleast a total of 10 years of work(calculation: 40hours + 40hours,…t'ill it makes 10 years) AND that had atleast 2 kids.

give far less retirement to people who didn't accomplish on of both requirement. Since people are greedy, you'le see an isntant birthrate growwth when everyone reach 30

And they were all correct.

This is what stormderps ACTUALLY BELIEVE!

Here's some truth for you to stew on, misogynist:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender
>Sexologist (((John Money))) introduced the terminological distinction between biological sex and gender as a role in 1955. Before his work, it was uncommon to use the word gender to refer to anything but grammatical categories.[1][2] However, Money's meaning of the word did not become widespread until the 1970s, when feminist theory embraced the concept of a distinction between biological sex and the social construct of gender.

It is absolutely absurd to claim that gyndyr is not a social construct when that is exactly what it was designed to be. Stop appropriating fymynyst terms.

What the fuck am I reading? Are you Greek?

So brutal

Fuck off retard

this is what mentally defective people ACTUALLY BELIEVE!

the only way you can keep the gender distinctions between men and women blurred is if you keep it that way forcefully.
gay culture is a minority and will always be a minority because gays are a minority. even if it's attempting to spill out right now, with the aid of the feminist retards, it will eventually dissipate and be isolated to their own community gender is as messed up as their sexual appetites.

Just tell him to fuck off and filter. He wants no part in rational discussion

1 effective (you) is enough to neutralize the bait.
but you're also right. because most of us would disagree without having to correct him.

Kys you nigger gypsy

No, not with him. He's gonna reply like 3 hours later and call you a stormderp like he always does

Dont even bother

They have been doing just fine at the Euro 2016 without intervention.

women arent allowed to work outside their homes

its as simple as that

Instead of getting rid of anime, vidya, etc.

Infiltrate it. Make it full of Natsoc 1488 propaganda and how it is important to procreate and uphold conservative values.

They naturally have a lot of that already because they haven't gone full postmodern retard like the West.

There's a surprising amount of shit like that already. This past season there was a show, Flying Witch, which I swear must be getting government funding because it glorifies rural living. In addition, the witches and witchcraft seem very much like a stand-in for traditionalism. They are cast as sort of old fashioned and holistic rather than anything outlandish and many of the things they do correspond to folk religious practice and household self-sufficiency skills such as gardening and preserving. It irks me because I can't tell if I'm reading too much into it or it really is a somewhat quiet reactionary series.

But wouldnt a bunch of dead grannies who arent quitting the job force open up the jobs that the youth needs to survive? If most old people died in spain that 42% youth unemployment goes way down.


But thats muh fed reserve logic. Gotta fuck over the nation and people for muh growth.


Lol he thinks the owners of robots would just share them with the planet just cause! Look at this fag, he really thinks the rich wouldnt just isolate themselves with their robot slaves to do everything for them!

No, the point is that once we gas the kikes we still have to undue the damage that has been done to our societies. There are various ways to do this, and one is to integrate automation into society to fulfill technological roles so that more people can live in rural communities rather than having to do those jobs in cities. Basically have robots replace the slave class that foreigners and the poor currently provide because we are going to send the foreigners back and uplift our own to fulfilling lives of self-sufficiency. In this way we achieve the benefits of both a stable traditionalist society and a technologically advanced society.

Plus we're going to need that tech once we move into off-world operations such as collecting resources in space, creating colonies, and exploration missions.

I don't think Flying Witch is unusual. There's also (that I know of) My Neighbor Totoro, Mai Mai Miracle, Wolf Children, Non Non Biyori, Silver Spoon, Nourin, and Barakamon. And others that are at least set in small towns and rural places. A Crunchyroll writer also suggested that Konosuba is a pastoral story, so that might qualify too.

youtube.com/watch?v=MInjjp_FAiM

It is great how often rural and agrarian life are portrayed positively in anime. I just mostly wonder if the creator intended for the whole witchcraft thing to be a traditionalist narrative or not, because it's an amazing little setup from a design standpoint. Although I guess by design or by ingrained ideals, it is a somewhat common aspect. Engaged to the Unidentified could be viewed in a similar light with Hakuya and the others representing a sort of traditional society with which Kobeni meets.

Konosuba is a sort of strange example though, since it certainly touches on many of the same notes in order to evoke a sense of the everyday, but everything within the series is dyed so heavily by the hikiNEET perspective that Kazuma represents. I suppose in a sense it's a story reconciling those outcast by the broken modern society with the lifestyles of old, which does add some interesting sentiment to the show. I think it does underline a certain element of truth for a lot of hikis that they are basically untapped potential if someone would actually just make functional societies for them. Maybe I'm just too optimistic and idealistic.

Here's the CR article:
crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2016/02/02/feature-aniwords-elements-of-the-pastoral-in-konosuba

That all comes back to urbanization. Tokyo is this unholy growth that sucks up all the people and talent across Japan, leaving their hometowns berift of jobs and job producers, all for people to barely make enough to live in a closet sized studio apartment. It's good that the countryside is still a large part of Japan's land area for now, increasing population will threaten that.

China is one giant soulless polluted construction site, we don't want Japan to get to that level.

I don't think I've ever seen a bad portrayal of rural/agrarian life in anime unlike western media where it's stereotypical rednecks/"intolerant racists" or something more than half the time.

Construction work as well is pretty much never put down and it often appears in anime as a "we need to do this to survive" kind of thing.

They don't insult their own people and they aren't suicidally ashamed of their past.

Kuma Miko this last season was about a girl who wanted to go to the city to study but ended up remaining in her town because she visited a city once and hated it.

She's delusional and the other villagers support her delusions so she'll stay in the village.

Half breed here. If I breed with a white female our offspring will be 75% white. Is this white enough to help?

What we should have done a long time ago.
A mantra for all ages:
1. Colonize the place
2. Kill off all natives.

There are no other steps for world peace and we whites got one of them wrong. Now the natives think they're people. China won't make the same mistake. Just hope your white country isn't a colony tomorrow.

I don't think Native Americans, Inuits, Ainu or Okinawans are something anyone should be losing any sleep over.

No, fuck off.

This. In the first year after the German reunification, births in former East Germany were cut in half by destroying the kindergarten and daycare system.

The only way the government could solve a population problem, if they wish to have a direct effect, is through a socialist policy. Because this is fundamentally a socialist issue, concerned with the welfare of society, there is no other way to influence the population size. If you want to be more specific, you can look at national socialism, for example.

What Germany did before WW2 was implement a system under which the government would grant loans to newly married couples. This was mostly in the form of coupons, with which the family could afford to purchase furniture, clothes, and other household goods from German manufacturers. The system itself was simple: When the couple had a child, their denbt was reduced by 25%, and payments postponed by a year. After four children, the debt was forgiven.
(source: Hitler's Revolution)

Besides increasing the birth rates, the policy also provided other socioeconomic benefits. A system somewhere along these lines would probably be undertaken by the Japanese government if they wished to increase the birth rate, but their inactivity so far suggests that the problem is not that high on their priority list.
In addition to economic policies which reduce the financial burden of families, there are also non-pecuniary policies to look into. Maybe the government should look into subsidizing pro-family anime that they can market to the single/otaku audience.

It's been done. Whether the government had a hand in it I dunno.

At any rate, all anime that has families tends to be pro-family, but they usually depict large families as poorer and struggling where the mother has to work, which is often the case, but the family is also very close to each other.

No they weren't fuck off Holla Forums

Rent out those abandoned villages I hear so much about to white Otaku. You literally have entire abandoned villages you could be populating with charismatic white people.

Why were these places abandoned in the first place? My guess is the lack of employment opportunities in rural areas. Everybody's moving to the big cities, the human hives. How will you make rural communities desirable places to live? If there is not economic opportunity in the area, families can't live there no matter how much they actually want to.
(cfra.org/renewrural/s/desirable-communities)

I wonder how much of its food japan imports. iirc it's a pretty shitty place for agriculture

its the comfiest show of the season, just watch and relax man

It's pretty funny when you look into it. There really is very little airable land in Japan.

It's kind of sad but why is it also so cute?

How does Japan do this all the time? I guess because they go so far out of their way to send a train to pick up a single schoolgirl in the snowy north.

New galaxy Express 999 idea right there. Get working on it Japan.

It's mostly japan's over politeness. They would rather lose thousands a year to pick up a single traveler than inconvenience someone. There's no way that station is still up & running now though.

No it literally said in the article the line closed down on March 26 this year

I'm pretty fond of this attitude. It's the kind of outlook a healthy nationalist society would foster.


Everything comes to an end eventually. That's just closure.

Give young couples a safety net because the main reason they prolong having children for so damn long is because they don't feel financially "ready".

the only way to undo the years of drinking chocolate milk(jew) and eating junk food(jew) is to take testosterone and get aggressive

maybe then you will want pussy enough to just go out there and fuck it

If there were some way to offer white mothers a salary per child she might be more inclined to raise white kids. Feminism has taught women they are nothing without a career so what if we restored pride to mothers through a salary and a national honors system honoring high birth rates. With a surge in white kids we will not have to rely on immigrants for labour and minimize the risk of importing non white radicals. Also the white surge will be thoroughly westernized by virtue of their upbringing and therefore no need to assimilate.

What type of half breed? That makes all the difference

genetics =/= maths lel

Don't allow women to vote.

They tried that in the Soviet Union and it supposedly didn't work, but apparently the same thing works in post soviet russia.

It might be worth looking into the differences between the two programs.

it doesn't matter if the russian birthrate is higher if people keep fleeing the country tho

Sorry guys none of these things will work. The West has fundamentally turned away from the God of the Bible and from Jesus Christ. This has brought innumerable curses down on us. I could go on about how us embracing the Women's Movement in the early 20th century is the actual mechanism of the decline of white families, but it's irrelevant as that's not the fundamental issue.

We we as a culture decide to trust in our own devices instead of Him, He'll take His hands off us and let us go our own way, just like we demanded. Ofc then we have to solve things without his help in a world where Satan and his camp are loose. Not working out too well is it?

America is an amazing example of God's blessing when we sought him during our early era, and of the curse as we've turned from Him.

Turning back to God America is the only correct answer.

All other courses are doomed to failure.

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Abandoning our heritage to worship a foreigner and a foreign god is how we got into this mess. Every liberal movement in the West has quoted the Semite Jesus' supposed words to justify their destructive ideals, and every sect of Cuckstianity advocates for White Genocide through immigration and alignment with Zionism. The tide has already turned against those that would continue the spiritual hegemony of Semites, as membership in Cuckstian cults decreases among white populations. In fact, only among the lesser races does it flourish.

Europeans have no need for Semitic fairy tales.

Birthrates fix themselves when those not reproducing die and stop bringing down the average.

Once Japan's aging population, their waves of baby boomers, starts dying off, the birth rate will skyrocket because the old folks who haven't been reproducing in decades have been holding back the numbers for decades.

Europe has been Christian for a very long time, but the current problems are less than a century old.

A thousand years, less in some places, is nothing compared to the tens of thousands of years which came before. That the entire race would be imperiled despite no imminent natural extinction event only a few hundred years after such an incursion proves the source of the rot. This goes back farther than the hyper liberal policies and complete capture by Semites of political-economic power. This goes back to the murder of the ancient priest caste as well as all nobles who refused to convert to Cuckstianity so that the cultural infrastructure could be replaced by rabbis and their race traitor henchmen.

There is no truth in the bible which does not exist in the nature of divinity itself. It is a collection of Semitic fairy tales imprinted with the ideals of that race. To follow it, or a Semite, is absolute folly.

You needn't worry yourself with my comments lad, they were directed only at the Christians here.

That's not how birthrates are measured. They are measured in the number of babies the average woman has over her lifetime. About 2.1 is the "replacement rate". A woman who has finished her childbearing years has already made her contribution to the average and doesn't drag it down by continuing to live.


I'm all for traditional Christianity, but I don't think it's strongly related to this issue. Non-Christian peoples have done just fine. Japan isn't Christian at all, and has this problem even worse than Europe. Christianity doesn't even have a strong pro-posterity message.

As for the OP's question (>>6480449), I think certain policies usually called "feminist" would actually be very good for our birthrates, such as universal free daycare and mandatory and equal maternity and paternity leave. What we need is for the people with the most human capital to reproduce more. We already know their kids do great. But they don't have many of them because nowadays smart women and smart men marry each other, and they both have careers, which prevents the women from having kids early and often. I'm not saying this is good (it's not), but you have to realize that the economic and social factors that the determine it mean that it is not going to change in the foreseeable future. Since we are stuck with it for now, the best policies we can implement to improve the birthrate are ones that encourage working women to reproduce.

gender is a linguistics term correct term is sex tbh.

1) kill feminism
2) fix the economy

We already assuming you live in the a socialist country like the untied states

I'm quite aware of the economic and social forces going on my friend, thus my reference to the instrumentality of the Woman's Movement to the failure of the white family. Greed and cuckhood replaced strong family ties. But again, it's just one of the many curses that have fallen on the West. And yes, Christianity became inextricably intertwined with the Western Tradition. I'd go so far as to say it (alone) layed the groundwork for the modern university system, the modern hospital system, the modern scientific endeavor as a whole, the Renaissance, and the Age of Enlightenment, and many other positive influences on art, science and literature. The list is practically endless.

No culture in all human history has achieved as much as the Western Tradition has, and it is foundationally due to the strong influence of Christians on society and morals brought by adhering to the message of Jesus Christ.

The West turns away from the God of the Bible, and -boom- less than a century in and look at the state of things now.

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This user gets it.


This user doesn't.
Nope. Gyndyr is entirely a social construct. Consider that here, in the United States, STEM fields are almost exclusively a manpig's domain; in many Asian countries, however, womyn dominate them. It was so bad in Iran - with 100% or close to it of degrees in computer science and nuclear physics going to womyn - that the government has recently had to ban womyn from studying these things in college in an attempt to repair the disparity.

Manpigs in 'Murrika drone on and on about how science, mechanics, engineering, computing, construction, soldiering, law, and many other fields are "man's work," while in other countries that simply isn't the case. Some boys like pink, some girls like wearing a strap-on and fucking men (thank you to the Deadpool movie for normalizing this!). Pyyple simply don't all fit into your shitty pre-defined gyndyr norms - that has always been the case and always will be.

#AnInconvenientTruth #DealWithIt