Spain to repeat elections

Definitely. Their "right wing" party is in alliance with Merkel's party and has worked to suppress secessionist commies in Spain and Scotland. The pro-Catalans are the only anti-EU party, but they appear to have been against Brexit, preferring "reform" within the EU, a la Tsipras in Greece.

It's code for they want more gibmedats.

reuters.com/article/us-spain-election-catalonia-idUSKCN0Z71NR

Catalan was the center of the Anarcho Communist forces during the Spanish civil war and is where AntiFa comes from.

Catalan to this day remains 100% POZ'd and the only reason why they want independence from the EU is so they can open their asshole to every 3rd world shitskin who wants to fuck them. Thats right, the EUs immigration policy is too restrictive for the people of Catalonia.

Spain was communist and queer before either of those were cool.

isn't spain filled to the brim with sanders-tier commie fucks?

Spain used to be ruled by Muslims and Jews. As a result, they eat a lot of ham in their cuisine, despite Spain being much better suited for raising cattle than pigs.

Unfortunately, the way they drove out the Muslims and Jews was to rally around their common Christianity, instead of their common Whiteness.

That meant than since 1492, they have been trying to integrate the Jews by requiring them to simply say that they are Christian, and finding Jews who refused to integrate.

Jews who say that they are Christian are, of course, still Jews.

Spain used to have Franco's Falangists running things.

Due to the Christianity, they were subverted by the Opus Dei neoreactionary club, an operation partly run by the CIA.

Spain will need to figure out how to get rid of Christianity to drive the Muslims and Jews out again.

any good right wing parties? how do we meme it?

I believe a party or a coalition of parties must manage to have absolute majority in parliament. In the past election the vote was split four ways and no coalition was formed.

No, Spain is fucked up beyond belief.

Spain is easily the single most left wing country in Europe. We just don't hear that much about them, but they are cucked to the max.

Their choices now are kosher conservatives, socialists, far left or a Soros-backed party.

Okay, kill yourself.

Why don't you give us a link you FUCKING KIKE?

"Regionalists" wherever they are are a sad bunch that want to destroy countries and be in the EU superstate (or the global one).

Works with all the new ones (that guess what, the EU reglementation created. They don't even hide that it's their "kill states" weapon).

All the places that are now "nationalist" or "secessionists", despite having no such claims for centuries (and are often frankly dubious) now want their own state… as a province of the EU.

It's the good old communist policy of "one state per people, one big union" (don't worry if you're actually a threat to our hegemony we will invent you some), that's the reason eastern Europe is so fucked up between franken-states (Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, USSR, Ukraine, arguably Poland and Lithuania) and psychotic states (Moldova that's somehow convinced they're not Romanian, Macedonia that's somehow convinced they're not Bulgar, Ukraine that is convinced they're not Russian, the worst patient they got double ration, both the messed up frontiers and the messed up propaganda).

That's in case you have any doubt the EU is totalitarian in nature.

How? They were one of the last fascist states to remain in the West? How did they become so cucked so quickly? fml

Franco was the best thing to happen to spain, he kept them out of WWII, he gave spain a few decades of non-faggotry but the moment he died they started assfucking and celebrating their degenerate history all over again.

Who gives a shit about spics

So a military coup is needed

It has been very interesting reading about politics in Spain. You only ever hear of US or EU and UK politics here.

Thought the Basques were on the verge of their own national socialist revolution? Isn't that what their whole succession movement is for?

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It is

Spain is dead. Podemos will win.

The thing is, I don't think catalan separatists are really anti-EU. They just won't listen and think everything is gonna work magically while staying in the Union. Liberals. Being anti-EU could be the only thing they could be useful for and they can't even get that right.

Catalan Nationalism is a fucking joke, I wouldn't even call it nationalism. It is 90% built upon victimism and whining, just like feminism or anti-racism. It's all about "SPAIN'S OPRESSING US".

At least they try to boost their culture (human towers and such), but their wide open borders policy will kill that anyway.

Some separatist parties have spread propaganda in Catalan, English, French and… ARABIC. But not in Spanish. That's all you need to know.

t. catalan

How cucked is Spain user?

A lot.
t. Spaniard.

All parties in the Iberian Peninsula with the "Nationalism" label are completely subverted and a cover for crypto marxism

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People's Party is your average Merkelian party. "Center-Right" bullshit. Also they're corrupt to the core. Mostly voted by old people, if it weren't for them Spain would already be a communist shithole. There's no big pure right-wing party in Spain, let alone a nationalist party.

Spanish Socialist Worker's Party misses a word between Spanish and Socialist and that's why they fail. Center-Left feminist crap. They've their great share of corruption as well.

Podemos is distilled communism. The leader is a single loser who kissed a male party member in the mouth and then went on to say "come on people, it's CURRENT YEAR!" People are really desperate for anti-establishment and this is the only thing they got. And young people here tend to be retarded lefties so they got their vote too.

Citizens are pro-EU and all for open borders, but then again so are the most of the others. Somewhat right-wing when it comes to economy, retardedly liberal when it comes to society. What's even more funny is that some lefties think they're far-right.

In debates they all accuse each other of being corrupt but when it comes to gender stuff or immigration everyone starts virtue signaling and trying to show they're the best goy.

Not really. Franco was a weak-willed faggot with zero economic knowledge. He was no Hitler. He was useful to prevent communism in Spain and that's why he got help from Germany, but that's it.

Which, as the last 100 years have demonstrated, would achieve the exact opposite - being ruled by Jews with Muslims as a front.
I get what you want, but you can't destroy the subverted institutions without having something - something that actually appeals to people and is not equally subverted or worse - to fill the void that's created.

What a fucking choice user. I'm sat here laughing my ass off then going silent and thinking in a slightly depressed state "fuck".

Having no option whatsoever, being surrounded by a never ending sea of leftist cucks, assorted retards and mentalists.

At least in the UK we've had UKIP as a choice. Holy shit you guys need an anti-EU/Nationalist party, Spaniards should create one, surely there's some demand for it?

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So is Spain the European nation that is most eager to be cucked, but nobody actually wants to cuck it that much?

Well, the first step would be ending the extremely bad rep nationalism has here. Nationalist parties don't get enough votes to be relevant. The media won't even talk about them unless there's some RAYCISS NATZEE ANTI-DEMOCRATIC PROTEST, in which case they just demonize them even more.

A controversial, anti-stablishment, anti-MSM Trump-like charismatic leader who doesn't show his true power level right away could do it. Provocative, but not outright Holla Forums. It's either that or waiting for things to get so bad that people get redpilled despite the media's lies and cover-ups.

The problem is getting enough votes and money to be relevant at the beginning. Once you get the media attention it shoulnd't be very hard to get voters off the other big parties now that Trump has shown the way. Bear in mind that Spanish politicians are quite ridiculous themselves and shouldn't be hard to ridicule even more, but you have to be willing to play hard. Even if you think Hillary or Jeb are retarded they're even more pathetic here.

Looks like the socialists are going to win it.

the thing that most catalans fail to see, is that catalonia's independence is a huge D&C backed by (((some people))).

The actual mayor of barcelona is hugely-pro refugees. They're even hanging signs in the city.

The number of shitskins there is huge compared to, for example, madrid.

I think spain should remain spain, with all its regions.

The political landscape, however, is completely and utterly fucked. 100% zog, either "left" or "right".

Nationalism is light years away because of "muh franco".

Also, spaniards are not particularly bright, so this doesn't help much.

The only good thing the current party (PP) has done is telling the eu to fuck off not taking as much refugees as brussels wanted.

let's all hope that they don't.

I gave their program a read, and they plan on installing (((gender theory))) in schools. They plan on giving illegal immigrants Spain's passport.

Iglesias from podemos actually had me for a while, until I dug a bit and see who he hangs around with.

Spanish Anons, whats the ground situation like in Spain, is heading towards collapse? Is there a lot of immigrants there?. I know that Nationalism is niche right now, but what would it take to cause a nationalist revival, is there any hope for one?

Don't think there are many Spaniards here.
There's a serious under-representation of Spanish people on international internet forums and message boards.

not spaniard but working here for over two years.
It depends a lot on the area. Madrid is full of immigrants but they tend to be latin americans, which is a billion light years better than shitskins. Catalonia is full of shitskins.

However, it definitely is nowhere near as bad as france, germany, uk or sweden.

true.

I believe this is due to them not being able to use english to communicate to any degree of proficiency. Of course, there are exceptions, but that seems to be the rule.

I'm married to a Spanish girl and we are going to be moving over there soon. Is hoped to find out here what the good parties are… Apparently none? A lot of my wife's family complain about Islamic immigration and vote PP. Also, one cousin said that PP are nazis, so I had high hopes for them.
I guess I'll see what happens. At least I'll be able to get good guns.

We have a Spain/pol/ thread for the handfull of Spaniards at Holla Forums to circlejerk on.

Couple of infographics from the thread.

You only need more votes in favour than against.
Of course parties would rather try to get absolute majority so they can do what they want EU style.

Indeed, most migrants come to work on the fields on harvest season, you usually see only whites south-americans and tourist in the streets specially brits and germans, lots of chinks too lately.

youtu.be/0IJSoyBzKxo
Video on Islamisation of Spain. What is this party PXC? They seem like a good start.

archive.is/B06cZ

A new far-right, anti-immigrant party called Respeto (“Respect”) has been launched in Spain with the support of German far-right party Pegida, whose staunchly anti-Islamic leader Tatjiana Festerling spoke at the new party’s founding Congress in the small city of El Vendrell, in Catalonia’s southern province of Tarragona.

According to Ripoll, the purpose and mission of Respeto is the defense of Spain’s national sovereignty, Spanish identity and the rights of middle- and working-class Spaniards against the perceived threat of waves of Islamic immigrants arriving to Spain due to the current Middle East refugee crisis.

YES, IT CAN BE DONE
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Another Spaniard here, I live in the very north of Spain and let me tell you, it's not half as pozed as the rest of the peninsula, very few immigrants, the only people who come in mass are usually British tourists (God bless 'em). The problem here is miscommunication, I've met with nationalists who think of the EU as nothing more than just trading deals, I have to remind them every time that those "extreme right wing" groups that are shown on the media are simply nationalist groups, it's because the average Spaniard does not know any English nor cares for the rest of the world that we have these commies walking right into this country and tricking us all. I fear that i might have to abandon this sinking ship, it does help that in my childhood my father told me about this neighbor he had when he was a child, an american who told him wonderful things about the USA and that info he passed down on me, it drove me to learn the language so perhaps some day i can try my luck there. I wouldn't leave if it wasn't for the fact that Spain is simply detached from the rest of the world so much, it's insane the amount of ignorance, we're not dumb, we just don't care about the rest of the world, kind of like Americans.

Who's worse, the brit or the german tourists?

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WE CAN
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Unlike in cities like Barcelona, in my town we get full families or just old people looking to relax, they're both respectful and just nice people overall.

They sure love drinking though.

Portugal is in the same boat as Spain only not as bad yet. We have no relevant nationalist movement besides the National Renovator Party but the media ignores it almost completely and there's tons of corruption everywhere.

One thing we differ from Spain on is in speaking foreign languages, we're not as ignorant and isolated as them in that regard.

From what I've witnessed Salazar is usually respected, especially among the elder.

Iberia is sinking down the drain fast with no end in sight.

I'm an expat spaniard. Jesus, my family is a mess, i got a lesbian sister, my cousins were whore-lovers who lived at home with their mother until they were 60, another cousin was a homosexual, they were all of course communists, the only semi-normal female cousin i had whored her way through life and lived on her daddy's money until she was 30 and my other semi-normal female cousin is still goth at 40 and dresses like Elvira Mistress of the Dark.
I won't even get into the fact the elders are thieving bankers and lawyers who think the EU is the best thing in existence.

I'm the only normal person in the bunch who likes heterosexuality, employment, democracy and capitalism.

They spanish elections doesn't matter at all. Spain is a colony of the European Union. I think the brexit was more revelant than this elections.
3 candidates are just European Union's minions, and the other one, Podemos, is a marxist party financed by Venezuela, now they are called "Unidos Podemos" (United we can) because they have alliances with other marxist parties.
I just hope that the European Union fall as as soon as posible and Trump will win. Kek wills it.
Also I think that our based army (remember Franco and Primo de Rivera) is planning a coup de etat if this shitty situation don't change soon.
¡VIVA ESPAÑA, COÑO!

Ha ha ha
Some of the PP voters are Fachas (Fascists which like to reminisce about Franco). That's it.

The "Partido Popular" (PP) is the kosher "traditional right wing party".
The "Partido Socialista Obrero Español" (PSOE) is the kosher "traditional left wing party".
These two ruled the country since democracy was implemented after Franco died.
Izquierda Unida (IU) is the commies. Didn't matter much, except when they made a coalition with one of the other two.
There was a splintering of the Falange (bonafide fascists). Falage Autentica, Falange de las JONS, and a few others I think. Did not get any votes, became infilitrated and controlled oposition.
Those are the traditional parties of any relevance.

Now the newcomers:
UPyD: A splintering of the PSOE a few years back. Did not amount to anything.

Recent:
Ciudadanos: Escape valve for those fed up with the PSOE.
Podemos: Escape valve for those fed up with IU.
Vox: Escape valve for those fed up with the PP.

The actual "nazis" are Democracia Nacional. Which won't even appear on this election because a new requirement was introduced out of the blue for signatures to be collected. And of course nobody wants their name in a watchlist. Neither will any of the Falangists. Which refused to unite with the previous, because they are fags.

*infiltrated

Also if you want to talk with some Spaniard anons go to cuckchan. There are ltos of Spaniards there, here there are only few of us I think.

lots of Spaniards there*

Nationalism has been demonized ever since the country fell to the Podemos social media hate machine.

The right vote is more or less ransomed by the PP because:
The problem is that they are a corrupt party. As corrupt as the other major players, however:
-PSOE's ERE scandals in Andalucia alone have a fraud total more than half of PP's dirty affairs in the past term,
-The core of Podemos was funded by Venezolan and Iraní interests to push communism. Still not ruled treason because they are based in Catalonia and you bet the judges there have beef with the PP.
What nobody seems to fucking notice is that all these scandals have been uncovered throughout recent years by anticorruption measures put forth by the PP in the first place. So they have also managed an (admittedly, still incomplete) exercise in purification, but they won't play that angle because that would be an admission of corruption.

Ciudadanos is a wildcard, their programme looks sound but does nothing to prevent left extremism. They have already signed a pact with the PSOE which might/might not still hold, but it poisoned everything they might offer to the right, if they ever did offer anything. All fluff, no substance, they will be the Kingmaker of this scenario and they will flock to whoever gives them seats to warm - the leftists.

But I ramble, Spain is going to the shitter the moment a leftocomunnist government is formed and I am glad to get my things in order shortly to get out of this shithole.

Africa begins at the Pyrenees, but now more than ever.

Neither, you want to set your split based on age instead of nationality. Youngster tourists (SPECIALLY students) come here to get piss drunk with store brand rum, fuck bitches and vandalize. Almost every tourist 30ish and older i've met was respectful and more interesting to talk to than the average spaniard.

source, I used to be a pool lifeguard in my bachelor years

Anarchists that Orwell fought alongside =/= effeminate faggotry of the new left

Well it can't be that bad, better than Socalists or Libtards.

Current temporary results:
- PP 119
- Unidos Podemos 93
- PSOE 83
- Ciudadanos 28

We're cucked.

Participation seems to be all-time low.
People just don't give a shit anymore. Whatever they vote they get fucked one way or the other. Should have gone with the lesser evil, probably the cuckservatives PP.

If Unidos Podemos forms a coalition with PSOE then it's over. Terrorists win.

Let's hope nationalism keeps rising in the west so that we may actually see a new, high-energy party in 4 years. We'll have to spread more redpills, lads.

This is fair, the problem is that trying to clean house is moral, but finding the skeletons in the closet is not a great look.

Is that polling or have they actually started counting?

I've never really bought the accelerationism meme. I wish I did. But who knows, shit may get so awful that people stop giving a shit about being called fascists.

who's going to win, the left or the more left??
exiting…

With 36% counted this is what we have. We may evade commies which is the best news we can expect today. Apologies for not having a far right party Yurop.

Forgot my hat

Either a few catalan officials fell asleep counting or some serious shit is happening.
Not that i'm complaining

Cities are a bit behind and I expect that will help leftists. But yeah, polls have fucked up, Podemos 3rd and PP growing.

Maybe 15 years ago. ETA died pretty much 2 years ago. After 2010 (and the cease annoucement) they started shitting their pants constantly because their guys were being captured left and right with important info on them. I guess they saw the new generations aren't willing to put their lifes on the line

Merkel is a Christian Democrat.

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Goddamn, this country is hard to love

ETA (the more popular branches) were marxists, not natsoc.

Civil war when, brother?

97% results

not soon enought

So

Third elections or not, thinks look up for the PP. Widespread infighting among the left has allowed the blue party to increase their advantage by doing metaphorically nothing. A PP-PSOE pact would spell political suicide for Sanchez. Given his results have been the worst in the story of the PSOE in these two elections, i wouldn't be surprised they handed his head to Rajoy in a silver plate.

The spaniards have heard what the extreme left had to say, deemed it too extreme, and opted to keep business as usual. Honestly, I'd prefer PP to rule, but Rajoy to go. He has done his time and has too much baggage what with the widespread corruption. We will have to settle with him, nonetheless.

Ciudadanos has lost hard on seats, but not too hard on votes.

Going by the numbers in

PP + C's =169 and 176 seats are needed. CDC and PNV can probably be talked to as well, so it's not too unlikely. They'll have to negotiate with Ciudadanos and that could be tricky, but.if they can't manage even that then they really deserve to be shot.

Can't the King just appoint the PM and be done with it or are you actually going to have a third election?

inb4 they go full retard for the Chavez buttbuddy

They didn't lose that many votes, d'Hondt system is just retarded and hurts them the most in this scenario.

What happened to this Spain?

Spanish separatism follows an odd pattern both in Basque Country and Catalonia, maybe in a few other regions. I suspect things are similar in other European countries, but can't really confirm ATM. The pattern is as follows:

There are no far-right separatists. You have moderate centre-right nationalists who are not violent and not really separatist (PNV in Basque country, CDC in Catalonia) and then you have the radical separatists who are hard left and vote with the left (Bildu in Basque Country, ERC and CUP in Catalonia). Bildu is the latest name of the political branch of ETA, the terrorist band who supposedly abandoned violence in recent years. They kept changing the name for many years because they were outlawed time after time. Recently, the centre-right moderate nationalists have been moving towards separatism, to woo radical voters, but it didn't really pan out as they expected, and I think they are slowly moving back towards moderation.

Damn, for being the first Europeans these Basques sure aren't defending their autonomy like our ancestors did when facing the Romans and Moors.

So is all this talk of succession and separation just for appearances? Sort of like Scotland and Britain?

And reported for intl.

Thanks for outing yourselves so quickly, you fucking retards.

Does Spain have internet?

Can't say I've ever seen a Spaniard, or every seen a Shitpost by one.

And with nearly 30% unemployment there (like in the US), you’d think that at least some would come here.

I mean, SOME Spaniards have to know English, don’t they?

We don't speak lot of english here, specially the people not working (you can find job more easily if you speak english because we are the tourist resort of Europe). But surprisingly there are lots of Spaniards in halfchan, we made like 10 full threads yesterday with the elections. Although they speak lot of Spanish, only like half of them speak English. I think our lack of English speakers is because we have an entire continent that speaks our languages and countries like Burgerland speaks lots of Spanish too. Take some Spanish memes just recently made in the election time.

And the best one

nah, what the King can do is decree the beginning of a negotiation round in case the most voted party doesn't rise to claim the presidency (the PP did exactly this in 2015).

His only prerogative here is the timing but even then he has a tight timeframe. He could demand it starting in about a week and he's forced to do so by July 16th.

I think there are a lot of reasons why you don't see more Spaniards around here. Most people arrive to chans through /a/ or Holla Forums and weebs aren't common in Spain even by weeb standards. Another problem is that most people don't give a flying fuck about Spain. I don't say that reproaching or anything, but the few times I have tried to make a post about something that happened in Spain the only replies I get are 3 sages with
So an Spaniard comes here and he sees every topic is about something happening somewhere else, which isn't helpful to make him stay and if he stays it's going to be hard to notice where he's from.

But maybe now that we have a Spain/pol/ we may start getting more people. Even if it isn't very active, having a hub to comment on these topics can do a lot.

There is now a long lived general /spauin/pol thread now

Id aqui, españoles, si quereis discutir en español.

I want to get out of Spain. This is, like everyone says, a sinking ship. Filled with corrupted people to the brim.

I hope one day I get to live on the US under Trump's presidency as a contributing citizen…

I haven't laughed like this in a long time

Same reason they call themselves "progressive."

Basque Country already has ample autonomy, including a very convenient fiscal arrangement. The only good reason to secede is if you plan to do something really crazy with society, like some commie-nationalist utopian bullshit. But the main factor is Spain's recent history. Franco was a right-wing dictator who defended Spain from commies and the unity of Spain against separatists, so commies and separatists got lumped together.

I dunno, you'd have to ask a Scotsman.

Whaz tdo you lads think about banning corridas de toro?

what ever happened to the fueros?

AntiFa then was just as faggy as AntiFa now, also its not like their ideology has changed.

Basques still have them. Catalonia is kind of in a shit position because their independence is limited and even relatively small changes to their law are cockblocked by the central state. There was recently a push by the Generalitat (Catalan government) to accept a law to preventing immediate eviction of people who weren't able to pay their mortgage, which is a real problem around here because one fourth of the country is unable to find a job, but the government shut it down arguing that they don't want the legal system to be so different between territories inside the state (why even allow autonomous communities to make their own laws, then?). People are fed up with this and it's only natural they want to break from the central government, but they won't let them because apparently celebrating the Exitlonia referendum would be "antidemocratic" if the rest of Europe doesn't get to vote. To put it some way, it would be like forcing the rest of Europe to voice their opinion on Brexit and then act in consequence.

I would say there is a small difference.