I want to make some cheap sugar wine. In the research it says in the finish banking crises of the 1990s a " turbo yeast " became popular among the the so called " depressed masses " for home alcohol production. I am completely out of the loop on two things.
The only guide I found has fruit added, which I thought was unneeded, that supported by the fact that adding fruit is used as loophole against sugar wine laws.
Where do you get this Turbo Yeast? What is it's technical name? so I can bypass the marketing traps?
Also how much yeast, and, sugar do you use per gallon of water?
Josiah Ortiz
i only know of apple must. take apple juice and add yeast and it turns into apple must never heard of turbo yeast and if it can be done without fruits
David Cooper
I just know yeast turns sugar into alcohol. Maybe there is something that the fruit does that I do not know about.
Thomas Sanders
i think the fruit is added for the taste (also fruits contain sugar)
Jayden Ramirez
use fruit or potatoes. add sugar. too much kills the yeast. most important is to buy a walking stick and paint it white. keep it at hand.
Liam Young
get the fuck of my lawn
Luis Bell
cooked?
Carter Anderson
also, do i need to add the yeast?
Justin Murphy
The yeast needs to be in there or the sugar stays sugar.
Logan Garcia
Okay, so can I skip fruit, and add extra sugar, or should I just use the same amount? I don't care how sweet it is after the yeast is spent.
Hunter Fisher
I've done this before (before I turned 21). It's mad easy.
You don't need fruit, you just need juice or sugary beverage that doesn't contain anti-fungal preservatives like sodium benzoate (yeast is a fungus)
Just put some fast-acting yeast, or brewer's yeast if you can get it, in the bottle of juice.
Then, poke a small hole in the top of the bottle-cap and stretch a balloon over top of it.
Put that shit in your garage (or anywhere dark and warm) and over about a week the ballon will fill with CO2 from the yeast eating the sugar and excreting ethanol+CO2.
When the balloon is about 1/3 the size it would be as a regular party-ballon, take it off.
Then, use a length of rubber hose to siphon-out the alcohol in a separate container, leaving the dregs (dead-yeast) behind.
Make sure to buy a few bottles and try them all at once, some will do better than others. Best I've made was with all-natural apple juice and welch's white grape juice.
BAKA! I just want to know, if I can skip the fruit.
Joseph Hall
i thought you only get blind when you do the distillate process wrong. ops method is without distillation.
Jaxson Allen
thanks, very interesting
Nicholas Butler
Yes. You don't need fruit, and you don't need extra sugar. All you need is fruit-juice without an anti-fungal preservative, some yeast, and a balloon.
Nolan Myers
That was caused by making moonshine wrong purposely, or on accident, or other prohibition era liquors. This may make you sick, but only because unsanitary conditions, or bad aging.
yes
Christopher Jenkins
God damn, you know what you are doing! Forget the JUICE! I just want to know if you can just make it with, sugar, water, and weast!
Isaac Edwards
np, I used to make booze for my friends and I in high-school. It was pretty rad. Any other questions about the process that you have, I'm happy to answer them.
Alexander Bailey
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Hunter Russell
have you ever made booze with potatoes?
Carter Jackson
CAN I SKIP FRUIT, FOR JUST WATER!
Alexander Morales
You can, but it's not as reliable. Sometimes the sugar crystallizes (which keeps the yeast from accessing all of it) and then you just get slightly alcoholic syrup.
Also, the fruit flavor masks the taste of the yeast. When I finally succeeded with just sugar and water(which was reliant on heating and stirring the sugar-water for about 45 mins, before adding the yeast), it tasted significantly worse than the juice version.
If the issue is $$, just buy the off-brand juice (but make sure to check the ingredients fro the preservative they use), you'll easily spend just as much money buying bags of sugar after repeatedly getting shit results.
Jordan Morales
Don't use just water, please. It's not worth it.
see my other post
Nathan Bailey
thanks for correcting the record. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilju op knows where he got the pic, you forgot where you put your sense of humor.
James Martinez
Too much effort, not worth it.
Julian Morris
ok, thanks
Brayden Smith
however you make it it'll be more effort than earning the ten bucks for a gallon of booze by mowing a lawn.
Hudson Morales
The only reason I was doing it before was because I was underage. No shit it's more effort than just buying booze.
Dominic King
How much yeast do I need per gallon?
Matthew Bailey
Look you stupid nigger, don't make that garbage. Make some sweet mead and it will actually taste good, and its very easy to carbonate if you like that.
1) Fruit is neccessary to make something that doesn't taste like shit. If you want to make sugar puke make some ginger beer AT LEAST
2) Turbo yeast is not a fucking thing
John Ramirez
No, and what is the perfect yeast to use?
Camden Foster
No you cannot just ferment potatoes, potatoes contain starch NOT sugar, its different and does not ferment without enzymes to break it into sugar. To obtain the enzymes, you can use a whole fuckton of spit, or malted barley.
Leo Watson
Buy the packets that look like condoms. 1 packet for a normal-size bottle of juice, 2 for a gallon.
Tyler Smith
It depends on what you're making. Dry wine yeasts will give you lots of alcohol, which is what I'm guessing you're going for. Table yeast is also doable, I have a mead with plenty of alcohol content made from just bread yeast. That said, any yeast used will taste like shit and produce lots of Fusel alcohols if you're just using table sugar as a food source. To keep your yeast happy, I would suggest using something besides just table sugar. If you are dead set on using table sugar, slice up a couple oranges and put it in there to give the yeast plenty of nutrients, and shake the bottle a bunch to aerate it. When you ferment it, keep it cool and dark.
Holy shit nigger, can you spend 5 minutes on google? I was making booze in my closet 20 years ago using instructions I got off &TOTSE of all fucking places.
Jace Flores
You don't seem smart enough for this.
Jason Cook
You understand, right, that the potatoes in this recipe are not the primary fermentable? It calls for the addition to There is nothing in this recipe capable of converting starch. You're a fucking moron. The potatoes are only there to keep it from tasting like ASS PISS from all the sugar in the recipe. No really though, try to make this, if its on the internet its probably true.
Read it you fucking idiot, did you completely skip the part where malted barley is used for its enzymes? Do they not fucking teach reading comprehension in middle school anymore, or did your dumb ass drink yourself stupid by fermenting too much corn sugar?
Christian Parker
Polish recipe. Dont be a nigger.
Leo Stewart
And this is retarded, barley isnt a fucking fruit you moron.
Blake Kelly
When did I even say it wasn't just the enzymes or that it needed to be fruit? Seriously just admit you lost an E-argument and get over it, maybe pretend to learn something.
Samuel Ross
Right there lad.
Eli Gutierrez
Guess again
Nathan Harris
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Lincoln Thomas
user you realize that this will taste like shit right? If you really want just alcohol go buy some everclear or something.
Jason Robinson
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT If you do home-brew something, whatever you do, DO NOT add MSG (Monosodium glutamate - flavoring in chinese food) as it can form GHB or GBL which may be illegal where you are. Look it up - please be safe guys! DO NOT make a drink that (already) contains date rape drugs!
Logan Bennett
Thanks for the tip, I'll try that. Also how do you know this?
Carson Mitchell
Wtf, is that true. It doesn't sound true. GHB from booze and msg? No way. GHB is good shit. One of my friends has narcolepsy and gets GHB so he can sleep normal- lets me have some every once in a while. Low doses of GHB feels like molly but without the stim-effect.
I need to confirm this, hold on.
Colton Gomez
Dont try it you fucking mongrel. Its dangerous and sheeit. The yeast metabolises MSG to GHB or something. Look it up SO YOU CAN AVOID MAKING IT AT ALL COSTS! BE SAFE AND LEGAL!
Lincoln Cox
Ok, I just looked that up. Yes, you can actually do that. WTF.
IT's important to note that plain glutamate is recommended, not monosodium-glutamate (msg), but you'll still get some conversion from msg.
Fuckin' A, man. Why do you know this?
Xavier Richardson
READING ABOUT IT ONLY - ITS ILLEGAL TO SYNTHESISE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES.
Liam Clark
not him, but probably to warn others on the internet about it.
Jayden Evans
Make small doses and destroy containers afterwards. Supplies used to make it aren't sufficient evidence unless you have large quantities.
I've taken GHB many times before, it's only dangerous if you don't know your dosage.
I'm not gonna try it, at least not while living in the city. But I wouldn't be opposed to trying it when I'm camping out in the desert to ride ATV's and do some amateur trash skeet-shooting with my friends. Thanks, man. You just made my next vacation 10X better.
William Hernandez
This. Its all fun and games until you get 15 years for 'spiking a drink'. Use your fucking imaginations lads.
Nolan Flores
I am a britbong lad, Sharia May is reading my posts now. I am obliged to recommend not brewing date rape ale (DRA), I neither condone nor encourage or assist your endeavour. I merely warned people of the risk of prosecution from accidental brewing practices. Have a lovely holiday my friend.
Camden Brooks
You'd get arrested for possession or use, not for attempted date-rape. . .I mean, unless that's actually what you're trying to do- weirdo.
Holy shit, I'm sorry. I heard about that act that gets all your internet info spread to NHS and Fire-Dept and shit.
I'm living in 'Murica, pretty close to Slab City.
Fucking move here, dude.
Cooper Edwards
I agree with user, move to america, go to New England, its basically what britain was and should be.
Dylan Wilson
Im thinking more of the party scenario - your pals come over, have a drink, a strong batch harms somebody - WITH DRUGS, DONT TAKE THE RISK. If its legal where you are and you only use it yourself then whatever I guess? DONT BREAK LAWS GUYS.
Anthony Harris
And Ive considered moving, but fucking hell do I love this country.
Jack Davis
The list goes on mate.
Eli Evans
Is there any way to hide your activity/downloads from your ISP?
Oliver Adams
install Gentoo
Brayden Cook
use tor or a vpn
Luke Kelly
VPNs I guess - I mobile post quite a bit though, I know GCHQ have made a little birdhouse in my phone. I would start going down the custom rooted phone path but tbh I have too much on with my business - MI6 can see me shitpost on here if they want. Real crime is always done face to face. (Get off the computers you lazy london dwelling keyboard jockeys - go infiltrate some mosques or something useful)
Bentley Rodriguez
I have tor
I can't torrent using tor tho
Is there another option?
Blake Roberts
nvm, I can use vpn
ignore prior posty
Jeremiah Campbell
I live in glorious US of A
I just want to torrent without AT&T sending me passive-aggressive letters in the mail.
Jeremiah Reed
Those girls look akward as fuck.
I'd take the lanky one in bed though probably. okay maybe all 3 at the same time
Jose Lopez
And I just want to come to my Interactive Mancunian Walking Comparison Chart and insult foreigners in peace, but we cant all have what we want.
Asher Diaz
U and me both, dude.
Sometimes I think about taking mad steroids and going to Anime Expo dressed up as an anime so I can prolapse an assperger.
Adam Hughes
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James Anderson
mfw I read that as I came tbh. FUCK OFF SPACE PAKIS
Easton Moore
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James Peterson
how much of this stuff kills you?
Evan Sanchez
I'm 70% sure this is a Philip K Dick short story
Luis Johnson
like 3 milliletres. dose is around 1.5ml I think? correct me Rohypanon.
Zachary Sanchez
about 300g for a 175lb person
Jayden Lee
So erect. I would be under 40 years old and ripping on towelheaded spacemen. Oh my lord.
Jackson Campbell
Come on Hitler. You dose GBL with an eye dropper, not by the pint.
Tyler Anderson
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Nathaniel Roberts
NaGHB is the salt form - GBL is the liquid pre-metabolite (or whatever you call it). Id rather user didnt drink 300g of GBL tbh.
Jayden Myers
The question always comes up
"What kind of person would leave the whole world behind; their friends, their family. . . to go millions of miles away where they'd have to spend their entire lives in a self-contained, air-tight, complex consisting of only a few small rooms- in which all they do all day is sit alone punching commands into a terminal controlling a drill-pump system, and eat re-constituted ready-meals?"
Mason Cooper
300g is the LDvolume for GHB
Jose Walker
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Daniel Roberts
if you accidently distilled some alcohol with ghb in it, how could you separate it?
Jayden Adams
fractional distillation in theory
Ayden Bailey
thanks user, you're keeping me save
Hunter Wright
How to go to prison in easy steps: 1)Brew the ale with MSG or Glutamate in the mash mix 2)distill the GBL/GHB 3)PRISON THIS IS ILLEGAL AND THEORETICAL ONLY. DONT DO THIS GUYS. sorry for being English tbh
Logan Powell
Id like to add that brewing and then distilling a controlled substance in the UK is charged as manufacturing a dangerous drug. Youd also get intent to supply, because fuck you tbh.
Jeremiah Brooks
It's also called the date rape drug…GHB.
Blake Reed
One of my favorite movies tbh
Jack Wilson
Also called MollyWater
Also called Cherry Meth. . . for some fucking reason. No joke
Mason Gonzalez
Freezer for a couple of days. The alcohol will separate from the water and the GHB will separate from the Alcohol. One substance is lighter than the other and will look 'striped' after a couple of days in the freezer.
Thomas Morgan
Really? From what I understand GHB isn't a fun one to be dosed with.
Kevin Powell
I beg to differ
I've taken it quite a few times. It feels fucking fantastic. Very similar to MDMA but without the stim-effect
Feels like falling in love, euphoria, sometimes I cry- mixed with the body-load of being wasted-drunk.
Gabriel Carter
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Nathaniel Fisher
I'm sorry. I found that image about 3 years ago, on this board.
I legitimately have no idea where it came from, but it was so novel I had to save it.
For some reason I find this incredibly hot. I can't tell if it's the novelty, or if it's the fact that a girl this weird looking would probably have self-esteem low enough to actually consider fucking me. . .
Pic related, what I actually look like.
Charles Allen
It's 80's magazine porn.
Looking at the recipe and it appears, yup, it makes GHB with MSG, sugar, any old yeast and water. I wonder why there is no market for this since it's so easy to make and so 'awesome'. Curiosity is one thing but since I can't seem to find any type of market data I'm going to keep researching.
Kayden Nguyen
Thanks for the reply user. Here's the only other pic I have seen of her. The quest continues.
Wyatt Perry
Okay, so the wine will taste bad, I got it. But can I still get an okay ABV with yeast, and sugar water?
Hudson Baker
what the shit? suddely tineye has hits for
Blake James
thx user. Saved
Jayden Harris
Low yield makes it impractical, grams takes multiple gams.
Liam Scott
Just get cheap apple juice and add regular baking yeast. Put it in a room temp dark place then ignore it for a couple of days until the bubbles are gone.
Then you'll have Apple Jack.
Brayden Wilson
MSG is very cheap and can be bought by the tonne. Chinese food places buy it by the barrel load. I understand the issue though, would need a very large facility to process that much GHB.
Daniel Mitchell
you'll have shitty cider. Apple jack is where you then put that out in sub-freezing temperatures overnight, crack the ice, then strain the remaining liquid. It's similar to distilling it because of how much water it removes. If you're really about fermenting something cheap, this is probably your best chance, but I would give it a couple weeks for the yeast to settle. Honestly, reddit.com/r/Homebrewing/ would help you out a lot. Ignore the posts, and just check out the stuff on the sidebar if you don't want to use google for research.
Why are you people so adamant about me not making sugar wine? Why is it so taboo I just want get drunk in the most cheap way possible.
Jacob Ross
holy shit, thank you
Jayden Diaz
Dude just buy methylated spirits from the harware shop or mouthwas if you wanna get wasted.
Elijah Peterson
Because it's called RUM if you do it properly.
- some recipe I found for GHB booze.
ABSTRACT
The compound gamma-butyrolactone (GBL) was found in extracts from samples of unadulterated wines. This finding indicates that GBL is a naturally occurring component in some wines and may be present in similar products. The concentration detected was approximately 5 microg/mL and was easily observed using a simple extraction technique followed by GC/MS analysis. These results illustrate the need to carefully examine an allegedly adulterated sample's matrix before determining a sample was laced with GBL.
Started a batch today with the following recipe: 3.8 L Pasteurized Apple Juice (not from concentrate with ascorbic acid) 1 cup fresh Ginger tea 12 grams MSG 1/4 packet wine yeast (Lalvin D47) That is approximately a 3g/L concentration.
if i had to explain it id say MSG, an amino acid, can be fermented into GHB, and this happens because the yeast is already fermenting the sugar in the solution into ethanol and co2, and the MSG is fermented into the corresponding GHB along with it.
Chase Kelly
I am not complete fern, though if there is a reliable way to distill rubbing alcohol in drinking grade I am all beers.
Noah Sanders
1L fermented with ~2G's of MSG, will hypothetically be 1L/2gGBL after fermentation.
Ethan Jackson
So youd need to drink ~650ml for a dose. HYPOTHETICALLY.
Leo Gutierrez
It would be on top of the alcohol, so a little bit less. Right?
Jordan Davis
I guess so. Depends if you brewed bitter or scrumpy - a pint of 4% versus a pint of moonshine home-brew. Good point.
Austin Martin
Sort of
Let's check erowid….you'd need a couple hundred litres of water. in 20 gallon carbouy, around 80 liters, you could make enough for a small dose.
You put the carbouy in a freezer. Let the water freeze and seperate from the alcohol. Then you pour all the alcohol into a pot to simmer and evapourate the alcohol.
The powder left over is GHB.
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Low Dose: A low dose of GHB (usually from .5 to 1.5 grams) often causes effects similar to those of 1-3 drinks of alcohol. Users can feel a mild relaxation, increased sociability, slightly decreased motor skills, sometimes mild dizziness, and other effects similar to mild alcohol intoxication. Even at low doses it is improper and dangerous for GHB users to drive or operate heavy machinery.
Medium Dose: A medium dose of GHB (usually from 1 to 2.5 grams) increases the relaxing effects and the physical disequilibrium experienced. Some people report an increased appreciation for music, dancing, or talking. Many people report positive mood changes. Some slurring of speech, silliness, and slight incoherency are also common. Others report increased feelings of nausea and grogginess. Some users of GHB report pro-sexual effects: an increase in tactile sensitivity, relaxation, increased male erectile capacity, and heightened experience of orgasm. Some women report that GHB makes orgasms harder to achieve.
Heavy Dose: A heavy dose of GHB (from 2.5 + grams) can increase feelings of disequilibrium in many people to point of feeling quite ill. Many people accidentally move from Medium Dose to Over Dose, only passing through Heavy Dose for a few minutes. One reason that GHB has gained notoriety as a Club Drug is that some people experience extremely positive feelings on Heavy Doses of GHB. Reports of euphoria, feeling music deeply, joyous dancing, and other very positive effects are common among aficionados. People who report these effects also describe how difficult finding one's personal dose range can be to achieve these effects. An extra quarter (.25) gram can be the difference between euphoria and vomiting.
Angel Adams
Different tools to brew moonshine/rum/hard liquor/whiskey.
James Martinez
That sounds like too much work for some " Benz " just make the wine.
Elijah Johnson
Why does the yeast have to settle?
Caleb Cox
yeast extracts can have a lot of odd flavors. If you don't mind the taste of burnt rubber, old bananas, a homeless Indian man's balls, and coriander mixed together, more power to you.
The yeast won't hurt you, but it will taste weird.
Cameron Ross
Same tools to brew, different tools to distill. Spirits are distilled from brewed liquid.
Asher Long
Some places are too rocky to grow corn. That's why they get their corn from a jar.
Dylan Cruz
This…
Just put the carbouy in the fridge to kill the yeast and let it settle.
Tyler Brooks
Yeah, let it brew for about 10 days, then refrigerate or freeze to speed the process of settling.
The biggest thing you want to make sure you do is use clean materials. Nothing disappoints like a batch of brewed booze getting infected by bacteria or mold.
William Morris
Y'ALL ARE RETARDED. Listen to the Polish Shine Master here. The basic recipe is called 1410 or "Grunwald" (shit's metric so calculate to freedom units if needed). 1 kg of sugar per 4 liters of water, mix with 10 dg (100g) of regular food yeast (not the dry shit, in a motherfucking brick). If you use turbo yeast, add the whole packet to 25 l of water, same sugar proportion. HOW TO MAKE THE FERMENTATION FASTER Add fucking tomato paste/puree/concentrate. I shit you not, add a small jar to the mix, the taste will not be present in the destillate. It makes the yeast pop the CO2 like a fucking machinegun. Put the whole jar/barrel of this shit in a warm place for a week, after that check the sugar on the sugar meter, it should be 0 BLG, if it's not- add yeast. Distill this nigger, 78-80 celsius is the main product. Throw away the first 250-300 ml's so you don't get blind because of methanol. During a destilation of about 10 litres empty the fractioning column about 2-3 times. When the temp drops to about 50 celsius, stop gathering the product, the rest isn't drinkable without a second distillation, you can add it to the next one though. You can also use the waste as firestarter or whatever, it's high in methanol, find a use for it, just don't drink it. t. a Polish farmboy
Isaiah Cox
Correction: The main product ends at 50% alcohol content. Alcoholometers and sugar-o-meters can be bought online or in a home depot, it's basically a glass thingymajig with some weightydowny shit in the bottom of the vial, looks like a bobber, behaves like one. Put it in the container you have your shit in, preferably a tall glass so the reading is easier, wait till it settles and read what's on the scale. The final moonshine will be about 68% alcohol after the first distillation, it's so pure you don't even need to do it the second time, unless you want rocket fuel. You can dillute the product with water, distilled water is best, you can use mineral too, just go for low mineralisation, as the alcohol knocks the salts out of the solution (reacts with them probably) and creates undisolvable in water shit that looks bad (the mix seems cloudy as shit). You don't need to cool the 'wine' before distillation, the yeast dies because of the alcohol content, it can't be tasted out. I've never felt as bad after drinking moonshine as I've felt after shop vodka. Even if I pass out because of ethanol poisoning, even if I puke, the next day I feel way better way faster. Don't be an idiot, just be careful to follow the steps carefully.
Dominic Russell
prison hooch.
Landon Walker
nigger what? Distillation itself is illegal in Poland. Knowing stuff isn't. Having the distillator isn't. Drinking moonshine isn't. Having distilled product isn't. Having shit to distill isn't. They literally have to catch you on the spot, during distillation, there were no sentenced moonshiners since the 90's here. Just don't be a retard and don't sell it, it's super illegal.