Next Social Justice cause: remove the stigma from suicide

As we all know, people who are suicidal are the most marginalized group. Why do we add to their suffering by life shaming them? Telling a suicidal person to think of zir friend/family is both victim blaming and shaming them for their life outlook. Instead we should support the suicidal become who they really are.

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yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1905-09advancedcourse.pdf
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risk of suicide increases with IQ.

It's like you're trying to create idiocracy.

People who are suicidally depressed are never going to do anything with their IQs anyway.

Lots of SJWs have quite high verbal IQ. We are just trying to make it collapse right?

How the fuck can suicide have a "stigma" if you end up dead by it? Only the kind of pussy that would never actually go through with an heroing would care about bullshit like that

Lot's of genius scientists and inventors are or were depressed.

Christ you people are thick.

I bet suicide is higher among whites than it is amongst arab immigrants or niggers.

This entire idea is dumb and not thought through very well.

Let alone the absolute nigger-tier lack of empathy for any decent person that might end up killing themselves.

I agree but they'll take a while to get to that point. Meanwhile:

The only reason SJWs/Cultural Marxists push this is because it is another way of getting rid of the smart, the empathetic, the caring. In other words, removing white people.

the guy who invented computers killed himself

WE MUST MEME A LIBERAL MASS SUICIDE IN “PROTEST” OF POPULIST IDEAS

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Just push it with the same slogans abortionists push abortion, it'll do a good job of highlighting the hypocrisy.


Then throw in some euthanasia logic:


Just make sure to point out that there is no objective standard to define which lives are considered "unlivable", so it should be up to yourself to decide whether your life is not worth the hassle anymore, of course after a few months of counselling! It will look like tranny shit, just to become trans-living you're provided a helium canister instead of hormones to achieve your dream goal.


Nice trips!

depression =/= suicidal. the vast majority of depressed people are not suicidal. Its a myth that depression leads to suicide. Being socialy outcasted is no1 cause of suicide or if u fall down the social ladder.

If you don't control your own life and death you have no true liberty.

If you get cancer or some sgit you may decide to check out early, death with dignity is preferable to ending up helpless, shifting blood, reeking of inevitable death.

Spinning this as SJWism is fucking stupid. Fuck you, OP.

Niggers have low suicide rates because their expectations are so low. If we can get SJWs to kill themselves then we clean out a lot of problems. It shouldnt be too hard to convince them that letting their friends commit suicide is the compassionate thing to do.

Stigma around suicide is already gone. It used to be a crime: self-murder. That's why in the popular language people "commit" suicide despite it being legalized. The stigma isn't against the suicidal, but against those that "caused" them to become suicidal.

Because he was required to take female hormones to make him impotent instead of a faggot.

Citations?

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Instead we should promote suicide as a protest against oppression

Great idea OP.

A person who an heroes gets all that "Rest in Power" attention

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THIS WHOLE THREAD IS ONE MASSIVE D&C BAIT

But I'll answer anyway because it enrages me and increases my blood pressure to dangerous height, so I need to relieve this.


Faggot no sources, did anyone besides you say this anywhere to more than 0 persons?

In other words
People think this is logical.


Short list of people who attempted or committed suicide and were intellectuals:
-Hunter S Thompson
-Ernest Hemingway
-Virginia Woolfe
-Rembrandt
-Van Gogh
arthistory.about.com/library/artists/lists/bl_suicide.htm
toptenz.net/top-10-suicidal-writers.php


This guy knows what he's talking about.
You guys ever see some dumb rapper niggers suicide?
No, white rich people like Elliot Roger do it (or others).


FTFY
He's right too.

Anyway, SAGE BECAUSE THIS IS A D&C BAIT THREAD.

No, you stupid fuck. We're gonna elect Trump and throw them from helicopters.

Why should THEY have all the fun?

You actually think that? Or are you shitposting.

What are you, some kind of naysayer?

This is the correct assumption.

(((Insurance companies))) will (((suggest))) death over more costly treatment for terminal illness. So there won't really be a choice, because its cheaper then a million dollar treatment.

But there are vegetables out there, and plenty of people suffering that want to end it but can't because the hospital and their families won't let them. They do deserve the option.

Society is going to undergo a major transformation in thinking when it comes to illness. After all the medical breakthroughs for trying to prolong life at any cost, the overtone window is going to shift towards honor killing with terminal illness for the sake of your family paying the bills.

All the treatment will be determined by (((class))), playing into their hands. Its a slippery slope.

have you ever been on 4chan mate?
what the fuck, are you so fucking new?

Suicidal here. I am just having trouble getting access to enough guns, ammunition, and explosives before you all read about me in the news. I'm going to attack a gay parade or if there is some large multicultural gathering full of shitskins and racemixers then that.

make sure you wear a dress so they can't identify you as a cis white male. They must think the violence comes from the left.

There is nothing wrong with suicide we just need people to kill themselves in the right way aka blasting away our racial enemies.

It's not going to happen, I'm internet famous, I tried to kill myself and my video is on liveleak. I'm going to try again soon hopefully but I want guns this time and to actually take down some scum with me.

daily reminder suicide is a quick way to become eternally damned
8ch.net/christian/

You hear that lads? Jehovah needs his prison farm well stocked. Don't get any ideas :^)

May as well post the video tbh

Ummm chances are you've already seen it, just look up "Holla Forums razor sharp knife" on liveleak.


Your Christian nonsense is retarded.

Killing yourself for attention? You could still get help faggot.

Jesus prayed for Judas to be forgiven though, even after he killed himself.

Its not written that Judas was damned to hell, so if there's hope for him there's hope for anyone. To assume that is isn't your right, its Gods.

Don't see it.

still, wear a dress and a wig.

No I would rather not. I have a manifesto, I have hundreds of notes going back years, I have a lot of stuff I'll be leaving behind. I'm not going to false-flag for the left. I'm going to die in support of a cause I believe in; removing degenerates from this world.

For some reason the people on liveleak thing I'm a Bernie supporter though, even though I'm an Adolf Hitler supporter, and I like Trump and would vote for him although he's not quite Adolf Hitler. Then again Adolf Hitler wasn't as hardcore as we'd all like to believe anyways, sigh.


No I was killing myself as part of an occult ritual I was doing with several others but my trance was broken and the whole thing interrupted before I could finish it.

Right, because meaningless and spiritually desolate sexual encounters detached from purpose or meaning, rampant anal masturbation (known as sodomy), denial of the essential nature of oneself as either male or female, deconstruction of the life giving and maintaining institution known as the family, proliferation of pornographic social and psychological control mechanisms (every wonder why so much porn is FREE???) and uninhibited consumerism which deracinates the soul from its divine soil weren't enough, we now have the insistence that others approve our decision to end our lives.

It's not about killing themselves, it's about projecting control over others as victimization is the essential power process of leftist (read satanic) psychology. They need you to accept their lies and reject truth as a means of experiencing power. It's the same with Doctor assisted suicide. It doesn't really matter whether we approve, unless the action itself is not the end goal.

The end goal is, and ever has been, the insistence that people accept lies as truth, death as life, and the divine and beautiful as dysfunctional and oppressive.

What were you trying to summon? Or what was the ritual for? Summarize it once so the thread isn't derailed

Good, they can all tell eachother how great they are while they kill temselves.

pic related

yeah you are right we cant be 100% certain

The idea you have of Satanism is nothing like any of the various philosophies of Satanism; Order of Nine Angles, Temple of Set, Joy of Satan, LeVayan Satanism, Theistic Satanism, etc.

Errmmm actually on second thought most of them have a victim complex and whine about Christians oppressing them all day and most of them are butthurt children of Christian parents. It certainly has no part though in the philosophy of The Order of Nine Angles but I can see elements of it in Joy of Satan (which is redpilled NatSoc satanism btw, as is Order of Nine Angles)… hmmm…

…but the Christians for the most part all have victim complex too, some very redpilled smaller groups aside.

Who is the person in your second pic I've saved it and I'm going to repost it various places until people have it ingrained in their memory involuntarily.

I've saved the third as well it's good. I need to know who these Christians that think like this are. There may be more they have to say that is of value for dissemination.


Ok so one guy drew out his tarot cards, declared that today I would die in a state of bliss, and I was going to basically reach a higher stage of influence and be like an egregore on this site they would work from here and I from the other side and we'd gradually shift the power balance in places like this towards a militant and pro-white cause; the ultimate aim of which is to develop a breed of humans that far surpass the dysfunctional and inferior beings that mostly populate the world today.

I took a heavy dose of melatonin which is hypnotic at the levels I was taking, just like in the freemason ritual where they eat the brains of animals (which has melatonin in it), although in my case my melatonin is not derived from the traditional source (animal brains) but I believe was artificially synthesized… anyways that doesn't matter.

I then began slicing myself up and focusing on my ascent. I kept at it for maybe 15 minutes or so? I was eventually interrupted however by a woman and then someone coming down the hallway and I had to pull on loose baggy clothing I had with me over myself quick to hide all the bloody marks.

So the whole thing got fucked up. I have to plan out something better for next time. I may create a sigil and go on killing spree wiping out gays or something similar and the sigil will be used by myself and several others and powered up by the intense outpouring of emotion from people who get upset or riled up over the slayings I'll be doing. It will all be redirected and processed to create large-sale manifestations that will lead to further purges of degenerates. The sigil will be written all over the place and maybe more attacks carried out if anyone besides me wants to sacrifice themselves as well and if not, it's ok.

We'll work something out in time…

Looking at this fucked up world, the kind of people in it, and (((who))) is controlling it, wouldn't you be too?


Fuck off goon. At least post that faggotry on cuckchan so they get blamed for it.


>>>/christian/
>>>/fuckoff/

Very few people want to accept that they're part of the problem. It's too inconvenient to their masturbation and binge drinking.


The Venerable Bishop Fulton J. Sheen, Bishop of the Diocese of Rochester. Had a television show in the 60's where he would talk about social issues and basically rock faces.

>Bishop Sheen on Crime: youtube.com/watch?v=Sog1oZtt-Q4

St. Paul the Apostle. "Only a man who could hate like Saul, could love like Paul."

Milquetoast Christians need to stop living in fear of the world and realize that they should live in fear of the Lord.

That's how you engineer social conflict, user

You cull people from the heard and split them in as many groups as possible, then you make them fight the group you want to displace

Wouldn't matter if I posted it on cuckchan, my identity is linked very strongly to Holla Forums, and people will come forward talking about me and the focus of course will be on Holla Forums. It's just inevitable. At least I'll bring in more people for you all to redpill.

I struggle with getting angry btw and have learned personally how being unable to get angry is a vice. Many bad things have happened, either to me, or that I've witnessed and my inability to get angry meant I couldn't stop it. I tend to fluctuate between sadness and calmness but never angry. When I try to get angry over anything, it's really fucking hard.

Do you have a full compilation of men expressing this sentiment? If any of them have written anything more or have some talks for me to listen to I want to go through them and put myself into their mindset and try to make more of it my own. I like the feel of these statements very much.

I hope you don't mind that I was raised pagan and never read the Bible but I am interested in some of the saints and various figures in Christianity here and there… I think Orthodox Christianity is particularly full of strong spiritual and political ideals worthy of examination.

Having read your second reply, I hope you're trolling.

If you are not in fact shitposting, but are serious, you are the equivalent of human garbage. My prayers are with you as you struggle against the demon which is riding you like a docile mule.

I don't really struggle against the influences that work themselves upon me. I already lost everything dear to me and I am alright with dying now and sacrificing myself. My death will redeem me.

Nono, really please implicate the Jews.

That's why I call you a docile mule being ridden by a demon.

And you are mistaken on several counts:

Do you know the difference between a suicide and a martyr? The suicide so hates life that he wants it to end. The martyr so loves life, that he's willing to lose his own life in the service of preservation of another life, be it a person, a people or God.

Sometimes in the course of ensuring the preservation of life we encounter death. That is a good death, but it's good because it was unlooked for, a pleasant surprise. Seeking death is not the same as preserving life, it's its antithesis.

"Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven has come near."- Matthew 4:17

tbh just about 24 hours ago I decided to start visualizing Mary (I think that's her name) every time I'm having evil thoughts, lustful thoughts, etc. and just seeing her beautiful and pure face instead channelling the energy into that and changing it with her astral signature

What do you think of that?

I think it's Mary that I'm visualizing, I don't know for sure, the picture I have in my mind is like someone from one of those paintings I think

I believe there is only the One Life which stretches onwards through eternity and that I am just as much within eternity now as ever. What you suggest is just illogical to me, though it may have some merit, I do not accept exactly what you are saying.

I have been in a three-way magick war for awhile now btw and I've been seriously fucked up, I think I've stopped one of my enemies though, or at least one of their vectors of attack.

Christ bothers me. I have tried to call upon his name before when dealing with demons I felt he might be able to handle and he didn't do shit for me. I don't have the connection to him. The demon I was dealing with then just ignored the prayer I was using and kept talking to me and putting his energy into me.

I've seen someone healed in the name of Christ before and I've seen people work magick through various Christian prayers, Bible, angels, etc. but it just doesn't work at all for me and I feel embarrassed.

Most of the stuff you're saying about Christ to me is pretty much meaningless drivel. I look at the world in a different way and feel more comfortable with impersonal archetypes and working with thoughtforms and entities that are simply present naturally in my area and which resonate with me (mind is like a radio you know, you tune into somethings, other stuff is out of your spectrum until you learn to invoke certain mindset and tune in correctly).

How about this, do you have any rituals/prayers/fastings/mantras etc. to bring about very strong healing that could get all the scars off of me, fix my eyesight, and restore my whole body so I can function very well in this world? I might give some of my soul / loosh and accept the guidance of some angel of your preference if we can arrange something mutually beneficial.

Anyways, my suicide fucked up, and you approve of you dying in defence of one's people. My next plans if I go through with them and if they involve slaying our racial enemies is justified and holy.

Maybe because of my visualizations of Mary I have been brought into connection with you and you're going to act on her behalf to bring me closer towards some sort of communion with her archetype.

Because it's not magic you fool! It's Faith! How can God defend you when you won't let him into the room where you are locked with your murderer? The Freewill God gave you is the one thing that's YOURS. If you choose to bar him from you, he will acquiesce to your will on that matter, though it would rend his heart.


Jesus the Christ, Son of God, Prince of Peace, was not a concept or an archetype, he was a Man. To insist on the impersonal is to deny what He is. These archetypes of which you speak are shadows cast by their creator. He is THE archetype. How can you call on an impersonal archetype for help? I am not surprised he did not respond, you were not calling for him, but merely calling his name in vain repetition.


There is no "deal" to be brokered, only an eternal law to either obey or contravene. Those scars you wear, those wound in which you are dressed are now a part of you. When Christ rose it was with his wounds that he chastised Thomas; even glorified his hands were pierced and his side wounded, if God himself did thus, how can you expect more?

The Law is simple, Love is a choice. You are given the power to participate in love by virtue of your freewill. God has given you a choice, and he has suffered a died to show it to you. There is no deal as you want there to be.

You give yourself over totally, wholly and completely without reservation for now and forever unto God. As a consequence you will suffer, you will fail, the world will despise you and strip you of your garments, crucify you and bury you. You will follow the "Way of the Cross" until you die.

And in that moment you will realize, suffering leads to endurance, endurance develops strength of character, character strengthens our Hope and Hope is all we have; hope in the love of God.


Maybe. Such are the ways of the Lord that even when we move against his will, we merely serve to magnify his glory.

kys

I approve of Just War Doctrine, in fighting in defense of something, not in going out looking for a fight. The battle line between Good and Evil doesn't run between nations or races, nor amongst them, but through the Heart of every Man. Fight the War for your soul first, if you lose that, none of the rest of it matters.

If you die in a state where you reject not just God but your own very life you are destined for the fires of Hell, God help you. I pray you do not choose that.

Do you know who our real "racial enemies" are? See the pic attached. The greatest enemy a man has is himself.

"No Man can be at peace, until he is at War with Himself." - Venerable Bishop Fulton J. Sheen

Then you're not doing it right. A true believer would false flag the enemy. It leaves more of a lasting effect than merely trying to get a message out. I mean, look at what the Sauds/Israelis managed to pull off.

Magick is the following:

Your understanding of magick is "a word describing superstitious bullshit" and my understanding of magick is "a word for the mastery of the mind and by extension the universe which is the mind of God".


I am a seething mass of thoughts having their own momentum, solidity, patterns, etc. that need to be worked out. From this mess of my soul I must discover the vices and replace them with the virtues, I must gradually lighten my mind, and bring in the healing powers to my body. When I'm focused on one aspect, there in the shadow of all that is not met by the light of my awareness, remains all manner of weak and dysfunctional misconfigured beliefs (no more than emotionally changed and solidified patterns of thought).

God has provided me with spiritual illumination and a universe where all the tools of my ascent are here available.


Uhhh you don't understand user everyone has archetypal energies working through them. What makes Christ significant is the archetype(s) that animates him. Christ was a man and any persona/being's consciousness can be called fourth and given the breath of life (vital energy) to work again upon you. I don't like to think I'm meeting the first and genuine instance of Christ, I'm sure he's moved on, though the memory of him and his legacy is embedded forever in the akasha.

Anyways I don't feel comfortable with the form of Christ and I'm not successful with it. I'd rather deal with something that goes by no name or assumes something not out of popular theology.

I can't call on Christ because I don't have emotional connection to him, he means nothing to me, I wasn't raised to feel anything concerning him. You must've had some experiences in your life maybe with your parents that created a significant emotional charge around the Christ.

Mary is cooler than Christ anyways, I bet I'll get better results with her. Maybe because she's less controversial and less shit memes have ruined her for me. I've seen too many depictions of Christ on imageboards that… argh. It probably should be a crime to draw pictures of gay-christ, smoking-christ, etc. and attack the image of Christ like that. If he's to be effective at all shit like that is just going to mess up his image and create associations that are damaging.

Weird moment went all that fucked up tumblr shit you want to think is contained in the shit corner of the internet is totally real.

Uhhh I'm not sure it's appropriate to call Jesus God.

I have shapeshifted before, the whole body is a mass of cells controlled by bioelectric energy / nervous force, which when strongly impressed with the emotions and intent/will of spirit, can be commanded in any manner. To make modifications to the body you focus your awareness into that part, you charge it, and you basically forget how it was before and bring in the new pattern. The cells then converge upon the new pattern. If you are very adept, you can achieve this in minutes, even seconds.

It's no easy task though. Even if you've done this hardcore shit before and you know better, there's the suggestions and thoughts of others who don't know better obstructing you, there's all these retarded limiting beliefs you carry around. That's why you got to just go out alone into the forest or some isolated place for months and just fast and pray and cleanse your mind, let the limiting beliefs fall away into the Earth if you will, and evoke the new strength you want to carry.


You have to love the virtues with a passion and strength that is extremely hard to cultivate, and you must not boomerang on it. You can't just be all riled up and identify with some idea strongly and feel it becoming a manifest truth and then doubt yourself the next you got to hit hard and then turn the thoughts away and then go at it again it's tough work my man and we live in a world full of shit neg-matrix thoughtforms. It doesn't help too that I get really compassionate for other people and their suffering too and connect to it and draw it into myself to work it out for them. There's so many gates if you will, so many ways for shit to get into you. I have so much work to do and it's exhausting fighting all this shit and being tuned into other people too and receiving stuff from them. Telepathy isn't just communication between two people, it's making impressions on your own thought substance, there is influence and reception of all kinds of stuff you probably shouldn't be taking in and you need filters for.

The kind of "deals" I'm talking about are stuff like I hand over some of my thoughts and emotions in exchange or run it through some signature for processing, stuff like that. It's quite usual you know… there's always someone out there that needs some part of you for some reason. It's easy to get exploited too though if you aren't prepared properly, to have your various arrangements go to shit. I need some better contacts in the astral then what I've generally had to work with, getting fucking trolled.

"I am the Way, the Truth and the Light. No man cometh to the Father except through me." John 14:6

Soli Deo Gloria

Easier said than done. In one sense I've already done it by actively intending to grow closer in consciousness towards God and accepting the ordeals put in my place as well as asking that my requests not be entertained whenever they may endanger the realization of my true potential.


Uh ok but hey man if I kill myself it's nothin' personnel, it just happens. One moment you're clear of thoughts, maybe in shock, and then automatically you're hanging yourself, you're rolling in glass, you're slashing yourself, you're overdosing… whatever. I don't even feel it.

Cool fact: every time this shit happens someone gets a strong sense of "oh shit something's happening" and knows where to find me and stops me. Someone/something is sending people to me to stop me from offing myself. It feels cruel in a way, I want to go, sigh. …but maybe some of my intentions concerning some new magickal operations I'm working on will manifest and I will find myself as happy here as I am dead; that is to say very happy indeed.


I have probably talked to you before btw months ago too. I forget about what. There's always been this one Christian user on here who is able to talk intelligently about his religion and has interesting stuff to say to me.

Hmmmm I have too many conflicting things to write in response to your post there concerning what you've said. It's obvious the truth of what you're saying to me and nothing new.

Concerning the quote if I stop despising myself eventually what I despise myself for will lose steam. It has come to my attention through sudden insight a few days ago that again I need to give no hatred, no dislike, no nothing to whatever sickens me; and instead I need to love my body again but not love the sickness. Love the cells themselves and know what they are capable of, love that I can and will re-organize my flesh as needed, and drive out the sickness with loving thoughts of good health pulled into my body by the attractive force of Will.

I think we can conclude then that I'm already at war with myself, I have made it my intention to embody health and virtue, and to make my soul unattractive to illness and vice.

I think with my power-level being so fucking high now though the stakes are higher too. As my ability to achieve total control over my body increases, a total potential reversal of that control seems to grow in probability too. Maybe I'm going to die soon overwhelmed by some influence that will sweep me away, everything feels amplified. Holy fuck though if I caste off the fatigue, sadness, pains, bad suggestions, etc. that will continue to try and assault me it might not be long before the light of spirit shines so strongly through me as to bring my whole body into conformance with the inner-purity.


Leftists/muds/etc. attack all the fucking time already, don't need to false flag for them.

Have you even read Siege by James Mason? As far as I'm concerned that book settles the whole matter. Read the parts it has about sacrificing your life fighting the enemy. It's near the start of the book.

Left Wing Suicide Squads!

We can't win btw if we are of the mindset that violence is only right and justified when used by the ZOG on us and that we have to condemn and demonize anyone that actually uses it towards the fulfillment of 14 words.

Please explain that passage to me. What are its meanings? What in particular does it mean to the ears of wisdom?

I hear a female voice behind this post. Can you confirm you are female user?

t. hears voices

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Yep you're female, I hear you again, and no it's nothing to do with punctuation or whatever I just sense you. It doesn't matter what you write or how you write it I can hear your voice and I can feel you. Doesn't matter that you're changing IPs either.

You have a pretty overwhelming presence in fact and I am going to just go away from the computer now and rest and try to work with your energy in a way that is good for both of us. I want to say more but I am sensitive to the influence of my words right now and want to just work directly with the connection you have with me.

try guessing my gender and stuff, oh wise shaman!

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I don't know what it means to the "ears of wisdom," but I know what it means to the ears of a foolish sinner.

These are the words Christ spoke on the road of salvation.

To attain oneness with the Divine one must first walk "The Way of the Cross." No other means can achieve total unity with the Godhead. While other roads may seem promising, they are false paths, beginning pleasantly, but ending in horror and darkness.

The Way, the Truth and the Light are not abstractions as we thought them to be, but rather a single person. Christ. In joining yourself to his mystical body in slow degrees through prayer, fasting and the sacraments, one becomes united in eternal life with God as they are drawn into the Trinity through the person of the Son. Christ, as the Word, that is to say the "logos", of God given flesh is the physical manifestation of the perfect idealization of God's thoughts as expressed in the physical world.

We are physical beings, and spiritual beings. We are amphibians so to speak. Christ came to tell us that our natures must be perfected, body and spirit; that is why salvation had a body, why it was a person.

Have you ever heard of a book called "Light on the Path"?

yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1905-09advancedcourse.pdf

(Previous book if you want it as well: yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/2014serieslessons.pdf )


Well that fits the Principle of Correspondence. As above; so below. Salvation indeed ought to have a body.

I need to read this still: yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1908-09mysticchristianity.pdf

Won't help either, look at muslims.

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