Can we take a moment to appreciate and remember everyone who fought and gave their lives on D-Day? Ally, Axis, American...

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Nowadays Holla Forums has no respect for anyone but nazis it seems.

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Go say that to the "ZOGbots" who survived.

According to 'everyone', Hitler was a fascist murder of 6 trillion who deserved everything he got and also he had one testicle and enjoyed Eva Braun shitting on him. You're a bluepilled ZOGbot yourself or you have close ties to one. The Allies fucked the world over single handedly. Kill yourself my dude.

Faggots can't let go of the manufactured sentimentalism for zogbot soldiers.

You idiots praise the most devastating destruction of our culture as some sort of rightous crusade.

Nazi Germany was in the right. If you don't believe this, Holla Forums is not for you

then maybe nationalism is a retarded ideology

This special pleading is at the same level (but different mechanic) as "communism hasn't been tried"

I'm one who have respect for all good soldiers.

You are the one who shit on the men who died and survived fighting in WW2.

Nazi Germany wasn't in the right, after all, they invaded Poland.

oh boy here we go

Nah fuck those faggots for destroying Europe, I'm glad that the US is a zionist shithole right now, that's payback from uncle Adolf for what you did to us

0/10 at least try

They died for the cause of destroying their own people. Who says we should respect people who go against their own interests whether or not they know it or not?

Answer this: are you military yourself? Do you have military in the famiglia?

I see the shills have already arrived

They died fighting against germans, you ass clown.

Americans are not germans, in the same way germans think they aren't polish when they invaded Poland.

Fuck off Holla Forums faggot

Germany lost WW1.

If we go back to the past, some parts of Germany belong to fucking Russia.

Fuck off you nazi cocksucking faggot.

Is it true or not that Hitler invaded Poland?

I sense you haven't been on Holla Forums for long?
lurk more and stop posting retarded shit

If the wehrmatch veterans can be friend with fucking Soviet veterans, I think you guys are LARPing too hard.

Nazi is a compliment on this board, mein freund

I have posted on Holla Forums for very long.

And unlike the rest of you faggots, I actually fact check the stupid propaganda known as TGSNT.

Is cocksucking a compliment then?

It was European v. European. They also died fighting against Italians, but apparently you believe that American is an ethnicity.

You didn't answer my question, are you military or do you have military relations?

Why didn't the allies restore Poland's independence if that was the whole point of your holy war, faggot?

American has grown enough to be an ethnicity, we might share whiteness with the europeans, but we aren't europeans.

We have our own culture.
Nope, just an admirer of what brave men did in the past.

It's about not draft-doging like a coward. Information wasn't abundant back then like it is now. Most people were not even aware of what was actually going on. You're like those liberal faggots who say everything is black and white. There are grey areas when it comes to this shit. Get your head out of your ass.

Gee, that sure sounds like when blacks and liberals say whites need to pay for slavery and colonialism.

The allies did, 50 years later after the dissolution of the USSR.

Churchill and Patton wanted to do it right away, but the brass smoked the plan.

It's a culture, not an ethnicity. Ethnicity is blood you fucking dumbfuck. Euros fought Euros in WW2.

Blind soldier worship despite what they actually did is the other half of the WW2 propaganda coin, the other being the holohoax mythos that is used to prop up the idea that the gnatsees were devils. Congratulations, you still haven't woken up.

TOP HEH

I guess reddit really did arrive, eh?

Fuck D-DAY fuck the ZOG pawns, mostly Churchill and his British retards who did everything to put the blame on Germany for his own actions. Fuck the allies, they are the cause of Jewish supremacy.

Considering the "americans" have negro and native american blood and even jewish blood in them, they aren't purely europeans, blood-wise either.
It's not worship retard, it's called having respect.
As said, wehrmatch veterans go back to Stalingrad and make friend with Soviet veterans, you are just a cuck who whines for them when they themselves get over that shit already.

Yea Saving Private Ryan was an emotional movie, especially if you were young when you saw it. It was meant to be that way in order to distract people from the fact that it was so full of complete and utter horseshit though from head Hollywood Kike Spielberg. Literally post-war propaganda.

I think this is where most of the modern veneration of D-Day comes from, almost to the exclusion of all the other theaters where fighting was just as intense, if not more. Kikeberg wouldn't have made a movie about Midway would he? He would only care about Jews.

Not an argument.

R.I.P

Mike Bay did make a movie about Pearl Harbor, and the japs did make movies about Midway.

SVP was just fantasy shit, but the effects were nice.

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Poland provoked Hitler by killing ethnic Germans in west Poland.

Pathological materialism governed by corporate oligarchy hellbent on destroying everything for the sake of profit is not a culture to be proud of, faggot.

Commonly used excuse but with no proof.

There's no proof that there's ethnic genocide happening in Poland, just like there's no proof for the Holocoaster.

Even Hitler loved the cowboy movies and american railroad.

Jesus Christ people. Came down. People were drafted goddammit, draft-dogding wasn't an option. Yeah fuck the Allies. But our forefathers died on these beaches BECAUSE THEY WERE USED! The kikes were saw gleeful than 1000s white men died, fighting brother against brother.

Yeah, like Elizabeth Warren amirite? Why do I even bother? Keep bowing at the shrine of those who destroyed possibly the last chance Europeans had at maintaining their identity purely for soldier worship. Fucking welfare babies, no I don't respect your ass.

The nazis were happily destroying other europeans before the allies take over.

No, like some actual mud blood.

gas yourself.

Actually at the beginning, people were drafted, but by the times of D-Day, people volunteered to fight the nazis.

All the best men died in the wars

Before 1913, the US had a culture that was respectable but since their leaders betrayed them by sucking the circumcised dick of the Jewish international bankers, their culture became synonymous with globalist cancer.

Without fail they always out themselves.

Take your pick: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highly_toxic_gases

Yea but Spielberg himself never made anything on the Pacific Theater. I mean, or did he? Why would he if he can't perpetuate Jew lies with those stories.

What I'm saying is that SVR was meant to reinforce the holohoax story and especially to further denigrate Germans, in case people forgot how horrendously evil they all were. I mean, the parts where the Jew guy finds the Hitler Youth knife and starts to cry like a bitch. And when one soldier says "Don't shoot, let em burn!" I thought the allies hadn't even discovered the "camps" yet. For Christ's sake they were just getting there.

Old German WWII vets have in fact spoken out about how untrue a lot of that movie was, you're on point with "fantasy."

Band of Brothers is a little better. The timeline makes more sense, and they actually devote maybe 5 minutes for a German officer to make a speech to his vanquished troops. I guess Spielberg felt a little compassion and decided maybe Germans can be people too sometimes.

Spielberg is a little kike and there's no shame in ousting his kike ass.

SPR was on point regarding the D-Day, everything else is fiction shit.

Confirmed for having never seen TGSNT.

Go back to Holla Forums, kid.

Cowboy, biker and gun-owning culture has never died in the US.

Some corporations made money off by reinforcing that exact culture.

Confirmed for having never fact-check TGSNT.

It's propaganda.

Or not OP.
inb4 larping hard

Wow, that is actually disturbing and saddening. Long live Britannia! Except on July 4th of couse, then to hell with you torries!

Yeah, tell me on how much polish culture you preserve.

R.I.P lads.

Is this really the tack that the shills are taking nowadays? Guilt shaming for killing some Poles?

You tell me.

They seem to be fine with sucking putin's small manlet cock every day

There's a fair share of muh jewtin on Holla Forums.

Memeing aside, the people ITT shitting on their fathers, grandfathers and great grandfathers for doing their duty and fighting for their countries and families are the lowest from of human trash. You should all be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves.

You're the one pushing that memery. I don't give a fuck if a few Poles died, I care that Hitler was right and the people you're asking me to respect were not. Intent doesn't matter. If I run over your wife and kids because I was drinking, even though it wasn't my intent, it doesn't make my actions excusable, does it? Remember, I didn't intend to turn them into pavement pizza. That's what happened to Europe.

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You're fucking delusional.

WE FOUGHT ON THE SIDE OF STALIN YOU DUMBFUCK ARE YOU GOING TO HONOR THE DEAD COMMIES AS WELL??

Besides even if Hitler attacked Poland unprovoked(which wasn't the case), I wouldn't care. It's the right of stronger nations to take over the weaker, and it doesn't change the fact that NS was the only system opposed to world Jewry. Who gives a fuck about a few poles

No, because half of those stupid fucks wound up letting the commies win. And even back then they regretted it, remember the Patton thread.

If you know someone too retarded to question their role in that war, newsflash, they're a retard.

Only the ones that have had the "Not the country I fought for" realisation should be allowed any reverence, or the draftees who just did a dang good job and had no horse in the race whatsoever (ie Audie) because t'ain't nothing wrong with being a merc no matter what (((they))) tell you. It's because you're stepping onto their turf that they get pissy.

Oh there goes some of it now but from the UK.

You're the same kind of retard that thinks there really were WMDs in Iraq (that he didn't buy from the US) aren't you. The fact you embrace your sheer fucking ignorance is why the people you respect are fucking utter garbage and so are you!

and yet you type like a fobby azn

They're playing into (((their))) hands by forgoing love of their ancestors.

Europeans have always respected and adored their ancestry and heritage, all of a sudden we're seeing a surge on the right and left of ancestral hatred. Coincidence?

I'm not shitting on my ancestors, I'm shitting on (((Americans))).

Nope, nope, nope. I respect my ancestry and heritage, which is exactly why I'm still incensed that the Allies did their darndest to erase it off the planet.

The fucking germans who survived the war shook hands with the russian soldiers.

So yes, I wait for you to call these wehrmatch cucks.
Then by all means Germany was the weak nation since it got beaten, who gives a fuck about a few germans.

If not for the allies, you wouldn't even have your ancestry and heritage, assuming you are indeed german.

You can question them all you want, but the soldiers of both sides deserve respect.

[CITATION SORELY FUCKING NEEDED]

The allies spared a lot of surrendered germans and allowed them to keep their language and culture.

OUT OUT OUT

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are you a fucking retard? if the allies didn't start a world war against the germans they would have "spared" even more germans…

Uh yeah, especially when they can just destroy it, being the winners.

They can force the germans to have English name and stop speaking germans altogether.

This. I will never forgive the Allies.

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The germans invaded Poland, which started WW2.

Maybe if Germany didn't start a world war (one where they surely lost), all sides wouldn't suffer.

It's true though.

Oh that changes my entire world view, holy shit. Did you get that story from a photo you saw on the history channel?

If America decides to declare war on Germany, beat its army, and take it over militarily, I would not be morally opposed to that.
But their goal was not honest worldly gain but rather destroying the lifeblood of an entire people just because they dared to defy the Jewish banking system.
And they aligned with the greatest evil in the history of the world to accomplish this.

We have 86 year old germans still going to jail for what supposedly happened 70 years ago. Think about that for a second and wake the fuck up.

historynet.com/perspectives-stalingrad-foes-meet-again-november-97-world-war-ii-feature.htm
That's exactly what it did.
Uh what, they didn't even kill all the germans, and no, it was Germany who declared war against the US.
Said "evil" that Germany also attacked.

It's not the american soldiers and lawyers who are putting those germans in jail, it's the germans themselves.

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But Germany didn't start world war by invading Poland, do you even know what world war means?
Germany offered very generous peace proposals to Poland, Britain and France, even after Britain and France declared war after their pawn, Poland, did its job and by that startes world war.

At least the americans can admit their mistakes.

The germans just call the bad germans (((germans))).

Dresden doesn't ring a bell?

Let's all take a moment to appreciate Heinrich "The Beast of Omaha" Severloh.

And i'll remember the allies soldiers,even if they are remembered every fucking day while even trying to show an inch of sympathy to the axis soldiers is always looked upon with disgust,to which they contributed to it by continuing the lie.

Shoot yourself.

Germany invaded Poland, an ally of France and Britain, which prompted the world war.

Until the germans get out of Poland, there can be peace offers.

I didn't even realize what that was from, I think that makes you the cuck here bro.

Apparently, Dresden bombing killed all the germans.

I guess all the germans now are not germans?

That's like saying someone is a faggot because he can spot one.

What kind of twisted logic is that?!
If it wasn't for the allies the entire fucking WWII wouldn't have happened in the first place.
Basically what he says

Yeah no, Poland isn't the world mate. The real shit started after England and France took that opportunity to have a reason to declare war against Germany, since they are frightened by it's military and economical power and wanted it to begone. They just used "muh save Poland" as an excuse to attack Germany for their own goals.
Germany never wanted a war with those two, which was the reason why Hitler send several peace agreements who were rejected by them.
Also the reason why Germany invaded Poland were legitimated, because they constantly persecuted and even killed thousands of Germans who still lived within the by now polish but former German areas.

Comments are great. All the shitskins and liberals who comment and try to challenge are getting completely "downvoted" or whatever it is. Maybe this charade will fall before the UK does…I hope.

Captcha: Zexsit! Brexit!!

Germany invaded Poland, this injustice means two Poland's allies, Britain and France declared war against Germany.

The peace proposals do not matter because polish land was invaded for no reason.

Hitler acted like a mad dog and got treated like a mad dog.

Proof? And please don't link to TGSNT, that shit is propaganda without an ounce of proof.

WW2 in a nut shell.

You obviously are still heavily invested in the interactive jew. Don't you have some feminists to be donating to?

I think 12 million post-war deaths qualifies for one of the biggest real genocides of modern times.

post approved
Good Job

It might be, but both sides, the Soviet and the Allies, didn't try to kill the germans because if they did, there wouldn't be millions of germans now.

In fact, they were benign with them, considering they allowed some wehrmatch officers to remain in their positions on both East and West Germany.

That's like saying that someone should be grateful for just breaking his nose and not his neck instead. And than you wonder why everybody hates you. You are either fucking dumb or even more pharisaic than a SJW on a aid vacation in Africa.

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A bandit (Germany) should be grateful that the cop didn't kill him, just leave him bruised, yes.

Never forget that Germany was not innocent.

Are fucking illiterate?! Read my fucking post again!

What the are you even doing here? I could post tons of proof, but people like you are way to stubborn and self-righteous to even consider that you could be wrong.

Trips, confirm you are Satan's little helper.

I read it, and it's still baseless shit.
I would concede if you can provide any concrete proofs.

But you can't, because this is a literal propaganda by Hitler to justify his invasion of Poland, and you Holocaust denier eats it up.

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You Naziaboos crack me up. Mommy didn't give you enough attention so you have to say the edgiest shit to appeal to everyone else's.

If Hitler was that great of a leader, why did he declare war on the US when he KNEW the Japanese had signed their own death sentence by attacking?

Yes, helping the Soviets so much was a mistake, but General Patton said as much.

You talk about how the Wehrmacht were only beaten because they were outmanned and outgunned when they were too stupid to anticipate a landing at low tide on Normandy, neutering their offensive capability from their fortifications.

War is hell. War is war. Call me a Jew for being a relativist, but I think both sides had brave soldiers who should be commemorated, and if you shit on American or German servicemen just because "muh flag" then you're worse than a shill; you're just plan retarded.

Get some new material

That's not an argument :^)

Vielen Dank, Deutshe Soldaten.

Without you, my country would've been swarmed by Russians, suffering the faith of the Baltic states.

Few people understand the sacrifice you made for Europa. But we who do will remember, now and always.

We will honor you, even if your degenerate descendants don't.

Hail, victory.

Ok I'll explain this only once, since you obviously don't have a clue.

Britain and France were allied to Poland only so they could use it as a pawn to start war with Germany, that's why they ignored any peace proposals made by Germany.

After WW1, Allies took parts of German land and gave it to its neighbouring countries.
There was not a shot fired on German soil by its enemies in WW1 and yet Poland among other countries, got a part of their land and by that Prussia was cut off from the rest of Germany.
NSDAP wanted that territory back, the last proposal was about letting that territory go under international control, this is very reasonable and beyond generous. What Britain's "guarantee" meant was total immunity for Poland.
They invaded Lithuania and were being total assholes to other countries and German minority. That is why Germany invaded and that didn't start world war, that war could be over in a few months if it weren't for Britain and France declaring war on Germany.
If they really didn't want war, why didn't they want to make a deal with Germany? As I mentioned before, German leader's proposals were very generous. Moreover, why didn't Britain and France declare war on Soviet Union, they actually invaded Poland without
any viable reason and were posing a great threat to all of Europe.

Yes, and that could be avoided or resolved easily, since Germany had no interests in Poland unlike Soviet Union.

Maybe you should look up some of the comments made by Churchill right before the war, he is the one deserving of the title.

If you still can't connect the dots by seeing a bigger picture and conclude that Poland was used as a pawn by international kikery to destroy German economic threat to their financial system in that small bluepilled mind of yours,
then we don't have much more to discuss and you can fuck off to some politically correct forum for further discussion about WW2.

Are we being raided?

Yes, two slide threads just made.

06/06/16 (Mon) 19:24:43 ID: 7c5835 No.6241155

06/06/16 (Mon) 20:24:28 ID: 7c5835 No.6241805

Found the shill.

I ask again, why the hell are you even here?
You are like Vegetarian who goes into a steak house just to complain about the menu.

No you wouldn't, because in the very moment when you start to realize the proof is concrete you would immediately block and claim something like
- the source is not valid
- I had read something else sometime before that says otherwise
- if it hurts my feeling it can't be true hur dur

I discussed more than enough with people like you to know that there is no way to proof something to you as long as you "believe" to be the good guys.

But I will try anyway. Here, have the 16-point-peace-plan by Hitler to regain Danzig after it was cut off after WWI from Germany and needed a corridor to supply it and prevent deprivations.

I could post even more stuff, but I learned the best way for people like you is to search that information by yourself. If you really consider to challenge your own believes, than search it by yourself. Do it, just search for German persecution after both world wars for example and than tell me Germany had no fucking reason.

Probably, so many bluepilled shitheads at once don't find their way here by mere coincidence.

Sometimes I don't see a difference between the two Holla Forumss

Obviously there are FAQs at the top of Holla Forums and there is an archive of things, however, I'll still ask to be spoonfed:
Is there a list of all primary sources? (i.e. docs or testimonies with verified [as much as can be] transcripts) from WWII?
I would love to write a paper refuting all B.S. in short paper form (i.e. 20 pages or so).

Do it. Make an indiegogo for it so you can do some proper research and I'm sure we'd all toss in some bucks.

good luck finding a publisher though.
self-publishing might work though i doubt amazon would let you.
assuming it's a good book then maybe you got a chance.
no chance with a 20 page journal article though

That hurts. The thing about it is how many of us weren't red pilled til 5 years ago or a month ago? The answer is a significant amount. And that's with the internet. Most of these lads never had a chance of knowing the truth. And in believing they were doing the right thing they embarked on the most harrowing assault in human history. None of them should have been there.. If it weren't for the fucking kikes man… Fuck I almost died for the kikes thinking I was doing the right thing.

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No more brother wars!

I'm really tired of you kikes here on Holla Forums, always whining and bitching about "YOU WOULD FIGHT TO DEFEND YOUR COUNTRTY!? ZOG!ZOG ZOGBOTS!"

There is your reply Sholmo

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D-Day was a mistake.

I'm with you OP.

It is time now more than ever to move on from the mistakes that were made and unite.

We don't have time to fight ourselves when the jew and the sjw and the nigger and the chink and the arab is moving in on our territory, our culture and our women.

Of course an honor-less kike like you wouldn't honor a military alliance.

It's absolutely tragic. Brother against brother. It's likely that the best Americans also have died, next to the best Russians and the best Germans due to this insanity.

This according to my own grandfather who said this to my father, "all the good people died in the war".

So whites getting D&C on memorial of D-Day, AGAIN, after all the Redpills?

Top kek. Get a fucking grip. With D&C working so easily, we will get nowhere.

This is such a stupid meme. Arguing about history doesn't hurt the alt right as a political movement in any way retard

of course we do, many soldiers fighting the Germans didn't know who or what they where really fighting for, they where just doing their duty to their country. There where shitters, especially in the Russian/British side, but as said.

That's my point aswell. Was refering to the posts in beginning of the thread. Sometimes can't tell if legit bad reading comprehension or another D&C kike

Not only the concept of honor is unfamiliar to you but also the concept of strategy.

Germany had to heavily restrict U-Boat warfare against Britain because of American threats after American passengers on British ships were killed when they were sank.

Yes declaring war against a giant like USA was in fact worth resuming the U-Boat blockade to its fullest because it almost knocked Britain out of the war.

If Germany wins the Eastern Front, they can focus their entire war effort and remaining army to completing and defending the Atlantic Wall.

With some common sense and logic, you come to the conclusion USA would not be able to invade in such a scenario.

2/10 maybe. Pls go.

guys I dont think mourning dead countrymen equates to loving what happened on whichever end

It's an immeasurable tragedy that tens of millions of whites had to die fighting a war for the jews.

Don't blame Americans/French/British/etc for fighting on the wrong side. There was no Holla Forums back in those days and the kike media brainwashed them by vilifying the Germans and hiding Soviet war crimes and massacres.

God bless all of the whites who died in WWII, with special praise for the Germans who were truly fighting to free Europe from semitic dominance.

May our ancestors, lie in peace and be remembered. They were but instruments in a war they had no choice to fight. Thousands of lives were lost, and yet forgotten because they are not the chosen people.

Gas the kikes.

What about the peace treaty Chamberlain offered to Hitler, ceding the Sudetenland on the condition that he not invade the rest of Czechoslovakia?

What of the fact that the British government of the time was committed to peace, to the extent that Hitler's later reneging on this treaty discredited them and ushered Churchill to power?

What of the fact that the British government ignored Churchill's warnings of German aggression and failed to build up their armed forces, leading to a significant disadvantage by the outbreak of war? Does not sound like they wanted or even expected war.

What of the fact that Hitler's own generals were warning him not to invade Czechoslovakia, saying that it would spark a world war which he would lose? To the extent that they were planning on arresting him should he go ahead and had not the peace treaty been signed.

If Hitler wanted peace with Britain, why did he sign that treaty then ignore it, making the peace faction in Britain (lead by then-PM Chamberlain) look like gullible idiots and making Churchill look like a seer all along, and bringing him into power?

Your fairytale version misses a lot of important details.

Schlomo, you hymie, why don't you get your kike ass out of here?

They genuinely believed they were fighting against "pagan barbarians". They saw that horseshit propaganda film Why We Fight, just like most of us did in school.
Turns out most of it was fabricated - yet it is the basis for the popular perception of Hitler in today's world.
national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.co.il/2008/12/egregious-example-of-allied-propaganda.html
national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.co.il/2014/06/the-ahmed-chalabi-of-germany.html

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A-at least I don't have my foreskin.

brilliant plan except for the fact that it didn't work I guess. Realistically if Japan had made peace with the wreckage of the Chinese and instead Fought against Russia the two probably would have won. Unfortunately, for a variety of reasons, peace with the Chinese wasn't possible and advancing on Russia would have been an over-extension of their might at that time. We know from history though that Japan can beat Russia, considering their conflict prior to ww1.

It's not fairytale and it's not my version, it's how things happened my friend.

Czechoslovakia was artificial state made out of Slovaks, Germans, Hungarians and Czechs. There were over 3 million Germans in the Germain region Sudetenland, they all wanted to join the Reich, just like Germans under Poland.
Czechoslovakia's president was commie supporter and didn't allow it, and Globalists wanted to use him the same way they later used Smigly, to get UK, France and USSR to fight Germany.
It was not Chamberlain, but Hitler who tried to resolved the matter peacfully, he was the one who called for conference in Munich with England, France and Italy.
All of which agreed that Sudetenland should rightfully be a part of Germany, Slovaks are also given their own state.

Chamberlain sure was, but Churchill, greased with kike money and propped by their media was trying to get his war all the time.
I already explained how it happened with Poland after the Munich conference.

What a twisted and dumb question. German aggresion? If it were up to Churchill, world war would be provoked with Czechoslovakia already. Of course he was yelling for building up armed forces, he wanted to have war with Germany.
When did Germany attacked Britain? After months of Churchill's night raides with airplanes over German people. Churchill begged for the war and he got it.

That, like the rest of your questions is not a fact, and this one in particular is the biggest lie of them all. Hitler never had plans
to invade Czechoslovakia and you have no proof that generals were warning him, nor did that they want to arrest him.
It was Hitler who often times intervened and showed mercy, for example, at Battle of Dunkirk, over 100000 British soldiers could be killed or captured.

Jewish owned press was attacking Chamberlain before the treaty already by naming him an appeaser and branded the Munich Conference as Hitler's conquest. Hitler proposed peace to Britain numerous times after they declared war, even dropped leaflets by airplanes, which the jew media and Churchill called as sign of weakness and mocked Hitler.

Now fuck off with your "facts".

It's best if we fight for the survival of ourselves, our family and loved ones, our homes… but that's the only reason to fight.

Unquestionably, the Allies did fight a war of aggression on behalf of the lying Jews, just as we have done in every war since, leading up to the present time in the Ukraine and Syria. JEWS, JEWS, JEWS… Of this, there is no doubt. Had the service members of the 1930's and 40's had backbone, they would have recognized this, and wrested control of our countries from the Jews, or at the very least refused to serve them in another Jewish war designed to pit white people against each other and break our civilization.
But the men of that time did not know what torturous liars the Jews are. Now, we no longer have that excuse. Now, we are required to have backbone.

Gee, I wonder why the OP didn't come back to defend his position?

Considering the Germans were going up against two superpowers (British Empire and USSR), three if we count France since they also had a colonial empire and four if we count the US, they did a lot and even came close to winning.

Up until the collapse of the soviet union everyone had the privilege of accusing Hitler for being a dumbass because he fought on two fronts but from the soviet defectors and documents that were opened to the public we find that the USSR was planning on invading shortly after Barbarossa anyway. Hitler did the only thing you could do in that scenario, attack first. A defensive war wouldn't have worked for a million reasons.

He also accurately predicted the US would need at least 2 years before they could stage an European invasion and the whole thing rested on Germany winning in the east long before the US entered the fray.

Most likely. I won't make excuses for Japan.

since you seem pretty knowledgeable, can you elaborate on why he opened up the western front? what I've been taught makes little sense.

No appreciation to people who were commanded by kike into destroying the West.
As long as you continue to hold that you did the right thing by attacking Hitler or that there was any honor at all in destroying the western civilization you are in bed with the kikes.

They all died in a pointless and easily avoidable war that was in the interests of a small group of people.

He did. An actual plan, Fall Grün, drafted back in 1937. The final draft of the plan had invasion scheduled for September 28, 1938. It was only postponed for the Munich conference.

There is direct proof, in the form of a series of memos from General Beck, to Hitler, and Hitler's dismissal of these concerns as the result of "childish force calculations".

Admiral Canaris' group (involving Beck and some of the later bomb plotters) planned to do exactly that; only the Munich Agreement stopped them.

A myth. Records show that Hitler had no idea an evacuation was taking place until it was too late to respond. He had also issued explicit orders that Allied troops around Dunkirk be "destroyed".

The "mercy" theory comes from Hitler's final political testament. But since he didn't expect an evacuation and issued no orders to the effect of "letting them get away" (the famous Panzer Halt Order was a chance to let Goering grab some glory by sending the Luftwaffe in, and to give the thinly stretched armour some time to regroup), it is clearly bullshit. Video related.

He was forced to. If you look at this post you can see the offer Hitler made Poland regarding Danzig and the corridor.

Poland refused. Hitler declared war on Poland afterwards and the western powers entered the war on Poland's side. Of course, this wasn't in any way orchestrated for Poland's benefit otherwise they would have declared war on the USSR or at the very least broken all diplomatic ties once they invaded Poland 15 days later.

With that being said, Germany was ganged upon because they were about to reverse the Versailles treaty and for the allies that would mean WW1 was fought in vain.

After Poland was captured Hitler sent a few peace offers in between this and the moment the invasion of France started. The allies refused.

France gets invaded and Hitler sends peace offers again. The Brits refused.

Hitler didn't just offer Britain a military alliance, he even said he would protect the Empire's interests and send soldiers if they ever needed military aid either on the isles or overseas provided they would in turn recognize Germany as the continental power and leave them alone to pursue autarky and lebensraum.

Britain refused. It had to do a lot with Churchill's circle pressuring Chamberlain and then once he got the spot instead it was all over, he was funded by a group called The Focus to do anything in his power to sabotage Britain's relations with Germany.

And that's how you got the western front.

Hitler didn't have any ambitions in the west, he even gave up on the Alsace-Lorraine bullshit before France declared war.

I forgot the exact number but there were at least a couple dozen peace offers in total sent over the duration of the war, most of them when they were in a position of power.

It's pretty ironic that you have the brain to deny the holocaust, yet you think the stupid shit like the ethnic german massacre in Poland a real thing.

Provide one concrete proof with photo and timestamp backing it up and it would be all over.

It means jackshit, the poles don't have to accept german's plans.

Get it out of your thick head that it was german land, it was polish land after WW1 and the germans had no business there.
Which means jackshit, polish land is polish land.
Proof of poles being assholes to "ethnic germans"?
Because at the time Britain and France were trying to play Nazi Germany and Soviet off each other, declaring war against both would be suicide.
Which is why Germany invaded Poland first, then comes the SU.
It's not Churchill that invaded Poland, Hitler did.

Don't blame the soldiers, faggots. Blame the leaders. That applies to any war.

It's the language of the germans.

EITHER YOU ACCEPT THIS PEACE PROPOSAL OR WE INVADE YOU.

So we didn't accept the peace proposals, turns out the germans got massacred instead. It's a lesson you don't stand down on bullies.

And no, fuck your peace proposal and peace offers, Hitler, get out of Poland and stop killing europeans.

"Might makes right."

"We were in the right, though!"

"the subhumans need to be purged"
Racist!
"Oi nazis ain't racist, Hitler shook some nigger hands"

Well you've been shilling this thread quite nicely.

Tell me pole, how does it feel to talk so mighty about wiping your ass with the German offers and standing up to bullies when you got crushed in 3 weeks ?

Usually you make those type of diplomatic choices when you have the military might and prestige to enforce them, instead you got destroyed again right after gaining your independence and followed it up with 45 years of communism.

Was it worth it ?

Was having the Europe of today worth it ?

If I had to blame someone other than the kikes for the shit we live in today is Poland. You could have fought the soviets on Germany's side, instead you chose to get penetrated from two directions.

I sure hope you think it was worth it… for your existence's sake.

It's worth it now that poles stand strong while the germans are cucks, yes.

No one will remember how Poland defended Europe against communism, until the germans stab them in the back and let the SU skullfuck it.

I will agree on that fact and even argue Germany stopped existing after 1945 but you could have had better than what you have today. If you really believe the slav genocide propaganda or whatever else bad things Hitler was supposed to do in Poland you're a dimwit.

Ironically enough you and Hungary are my favorite countries right now. Here's hoping you do something for the good of Europe for the first time since Jan Sobieski.

Poland might as well stop existing altogether if German actually win the war, they would just be another german province.
Rainbow and unicorn, face reality and be content with what you have.

Sure thing. The only reason Poland isn't full of refugees it because it's a broke shithole (despite gladly sucking up all that EU money). On actual policy the Poland is just as much of a cucked state as the rest of Europe.

inb4 the pole says "well why shouldn't we flood Europe with turks, you deserve it for the partitions". The Kaiser is the one who restored your country in WW1 in the first place.

Maybe it's smarter to be a poor shithole then.

You would have less territory, maybe only missing Prussia or maybe Posen and other provinces too but you'd still exist as an independent state.

I forgot the exact document this was mentioned in but one of Hitler's points was and I quote "A polish state must exist".

Lebensraum was set for Russia, if they actually followed up with Rosenberg's plan they'd turn the Baltic nations into one state, the Caucus into another, Ukraine kept as an agrarian nation and the rest of Russia to the Urals as a colony.

Why in the ever living shit would they need Poland with all this space ? Hitler in a conversation with Mussolini said that just resettling Posen alone would take 40-50 years. Germany itself was not fully saturated because they needed millions of foreign workers. Where the fuck would they even get that many Germans to populate all this Lebensraum to begin with.

There's no proof of Hitler wishing to turn Poland into a vassal, colony or any other puppet. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they did that considering you were stubborn but in a scenario where you played along and fought with them against Russia, there's no way you wouldn't have ended up with a better deal.

Keep digesting your nation's propaganda though, I won't stop you.

Yeah, Hitler didn't leave Poland until the allies force him off.

Live off your Hitler's secret documents where's a tolerant superman, I'm just gonna see reality.

Oh, shut the fuck up. Hitler idolized some of the higher-ups in Poland for their defeat of the Communists. Hitler never "stabbed them in the back." Instead, Poland held the Danzig Corridor after the treaty of Versailles cut up Germany, and Poland killed tens of thousands of Germans brutally, raped innocent German women and children and were generally fucking disgusting. Hitler, who'd been negotiating for several years to get the Danzig Corridor, found out and, in anger, gave them one last chance to hand it over, lest the troops he'd stationed at the German-Poland border invade to take the country and prevent the further slaughter of his people.

You have a problem with Hitler invading Poland, you take it to Józef Beck, mate, who refused over and over and over again because he knew he had the backing of France and Britain. Hitler, as always, did what was best for his people.

And this had nothing to do with the war in Russia and the natural defensive lines such as the Oder or the Vistula in case the Russians actually pushed the Germans back (which they did) right ?

You said you were going to see reality, last time I checked warfare was part of that reality.

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Hitler tried to weasel his way out of Danzig.

He was told no.

Instead of humbling himself and actually respect Poland, they invade Poland.

Yeah, fuck off.

Because the germans soon declared war against the SU.

For the poles, it didn't fucking matter because both were enemies, these enemies just turn against each other.

And can I have a sauce for this pasta, please?

It doesn't matter what the Poles thought, I told you why Germany kept Poland occupied, whether it made Poland feel happy or not.

Why even make that point if we're talking about Poland's feelings instead of strategy.

There are no documents planning for an annexation of Poland and there are no scenarios where Poland accepted those offers and got occupied anyway or a scenario where Germany won the east and kept Poland occupied anyway.

No, you just assume things I guess… that's your premise.

*unless

It doesn't matter what the germans thoughts, I told you why the USA kept Germany occupied, whether it made germans feel happy or not.

And what fucking strategy?

You invade Poland along with the USSR.

You weren't the mighty commie attacker, you were a commie collaborator.

As was Poland when they invaded Lithuania.

Lithuania accepted the ultimatum.

Because I was arguing about the post 1945 occupation in order for you to make that statement right ?

That's the second time in a row where you argument is irelevant.

-Poland gets invaded because they don't accept the terms.

-Hitler only risked the maneuver by doing a pact with the Soviets since he couldn't have both the allies and the SU on his back the moment he enters Poland.

-as it happens, the pact meant Poland was going to be split ergo creating a new border and sharing it with the SU

-Hitler wanted Lebensraum for the Germans since at the very least 1923-1924 when he was writing Mein Kampf.

-Lebensraum means war with Russia

-Hitler less than a year away from a war with Russia and you wonder why was Poland occupied

Wars - how do they work.

You have a point there, only thought it was meant as a form of propaganda warfare to get Germans in Sudetenland hyped up and prepared to join the Reich. Hitler's primary intentions still weren't about invading, since he called the conference.

You're talking about the group that wanted to kill him throughout the whole war. Not just generals, but a lot of aristocracy as well.

Yes, but they didn't threaten him to arrest him. These peple were plotting his assasination on many occasions, always failed though.

I don't think so, the claim that he wanted Goering to grab some glory is then even a bigger myth. They had the British cornered, infantry could've reached them in time since there were so many. I've read about people
people making up all sorts of stories about that and as much as I respect Irving, he didn't really give any real proof in that video. Even if Hitler didn't know that the British were retreating, using Luftwaffe on them would be very inefficient,
plus it doesn't add up with the PR he wanted to establish with Britain at that time. Also, Irving is backing down from a lot of claims he made early, now he says that Jews were being exterminated.

But for the sake of resolving the argument, lets say you're right about Hitler wanting to give glory to Goering and you do have a point about planned invasion of Czechoslovakia if all else would fail to get back Sudetenland.
I still don't see how that makes my post about invasion of Poland a farytale and not instigation of world war by Churchill and international jewry by using Poland as a pawn.
The claim that kike controlled Czechoslovakia was saved because of British plead for peaceful resolution doesn't fly much either.

I believe in self determination and since that land wasn't even conquered by Poles and was populated by Germans, I don't agree and I don't see why would France and Britain want to start world war because
poor Poland didn't even want to approve a corridor under international control for other reason than wanting to destroy Germany.

wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/wrsynopsis.html or you know, you can google it yourself. They were assholes to Lithuania and Czechoslovakia aswell.

Yeah sure they were, they were seeking to ally with Soviet Union against Germany. And I was asking why didn't they declare war against Soviet Union since Soviet Union actually wanted Polish land, unlike Germans who wanted to reunite with what Allies gave to Poland after ww1.

Which is why you only go in circles and sperging out, making over 50 posts ITT. Germany had no interests in Poland aside from their territory which was taken from them, not by Poland, but Allies after ww1, Soviet Union was a threat to Polish independence. Get it now?

True, but Hitler didn't start with targeting civilians with airplanes among other disgusting shit.

Really useless to argue with you since you're a butthurt Pole.

It doesn't matter what kind of shit docs the germans and Hitler had hiding in their bunk beds.

The fact that matters is that the germans invaded Poland and tried to split Poland with the SU, and then they attacked the SU.

None of this shit is good for the average pole. One is glad that the true polish army fought on the brits and murican's side.

It was given to Poland by the victors of WW1, vae victis so ti was Polish clay.
None of this shit implies any kind of ethnic german massacre, and even then it blames the catholic church, I thought the nazis were loyal to christian interests?
Of course, this strategy is known as playing two tigers against each other. Because if they both ally with each together, Europe would face even more catastrophe.
They didn't leave after they invaded Poland, they only pushed further, fuck off with this falsehood.
He bombed London with V1 and V2 rockets. And he would bomb more if he has better bombers.
As opposed to a butthurt german who tries to weasel out of every crimes the germans committed?

LMAO look at that faggot.
That's fine, but Germany wanting back what was taken from them by Versailles treaty is wrong? You sure are a hypocritical little bitch user.

Bad for Poland short term, better long-term.

Here, prove this to yourself with a simple thought experiment:

You get to go back to 1939 and be put in Smigly's shoes. Hitler's final offer comes through and this is your opportunity to accept or refuse it again.

So, let's say you refuse.

In what way you help Poland by fighting a war you can't possibly win ?

You either cede to the terms and hope for the best or you choose the actual rape for the sake of pride and national ambition. Well good job, we see how well that worked in real life.

Even if Germany stood still after you refused the offer, SU would have tore you apart from the other side and taken all of Poland instead of just half.

I realize Smigly and the Polish High Command didn't know about the Soviet pact and how well would Poland fare in a war against Germany but I'm not arguing against them, I'm arguing against you.

So explain to me Pole in what world you get a better offer than what the Germans proposed ?

Poland's demand was rather tame and reasonable.

And as said, Lithuania accepted.

Germany got their bluff called, got butthurt and invaded Poland.

*exact conditions of the pact

I would fight against both, so in the end, we achieve independence since the SU bankrupted themselves, and both Nazi Germany and SU become ashes of history.

Again with the independence thing. Funny how you can't prove you would have remained occupied after the war, I don't expect you to anyway since there is no way to do it.

However that's a satisfying answer I guess. If you like the Poland and Europe of today instead of what you could have gotten with a German dominion over Europe where there are no jews and ergo no degeneracy, miscegenation, usury and a bunch of other crap then there's no point of me arguing further.

To each their own I guess.

It also shows you care more about Poland than Europe itself and while I like Poland too, there is no scenario in any of my dreams where Poland could take over the white race and keep the evolution of mankind going. Poland can serve as an example for the rest of Europe to wake up. especially the cucked west but it can never take the role of the old west.

If things go on like this, Poland will eventually succumb, even if they'll be the last ones standing. Again, I hope it was worth it.

Oh you fucker, of course I care more about my country/nation over the continent.

Just like I care about my family, friend, town, city, country and continent, human race in that order. We are nationalist, we care for those who are close to us first.

There's no scenario where the germans can take over the entire "white race" either, keep dreaming in your video games.

Pan-European nationalism doesn't mean we have to hold enmity towards our fellow European brethren. We can be proud of our individual countries and races while supporting the patriotism of other whites in their own countries.

A white Europe will always be strong and successful, but once we let countries fall to jewish-orchestrated mass immigration of shitskins (like we're seeing in Germany, Sweden, and virtually everywhere), our entire continent will go to shit. Don't think Poland will manage to hang on to their homogeneity when every other Western nation has been overrun with mudshits, you will simply be the last domino to fall.

United Europe (+ the US/Canada/etc) is strong, but when we fight amongst ourselves we help the jews to win.

Pan-Europeanism is the deluded dream of various Roman emperors, Napoleon and Hitler.
Europe is too strong individually to be united.

It is better we stay apart and develop our own cultures and going to the stars as different people, than as "europeans".

The americans are developing their own identities too, texan, arizonan, alaskan.

No need to take the entire white race, just Europe so the white race itself won't get wiped. German win means goodbye to everything that dilluted the European population since and goodbye jewish influence.

Whether other nations would follow the ideology it wouldn't matter. The US wouldn't be strong enough to reverse the Pan-European empire alone, at worst you'd get the cold war between the US and Europe and it would die off faster because National Socialism wasn't a world conquering ideology like Communism is.

Funny for you to baselessly imply the white race can't be taken over by another race when it already happened.

I think we agree in essence, because I'm not advocating that Europeans abolish their borders and essentially form a sterile, culture-less "United States of Europe" which is what the EU kikes desire.

Britain must remain for the British, France for the French, etc, but at the same time we must acknowledge that us whites are an extreme global minority (something like 12-14% of the world population) and despite whatever our differences are, there are shitskins outside of our continent and kikes within who are existential threats to the future of a white Europe. We cannot fight amongst ourselves but need to stand strong against a mutual enemy. WWII was the world's greatest genocide where tens of millions of whites killed each other to fight for jewish interests. We must never allow ourselves to be so divided again.

The germans are too busy killing other europeans than to speak as "europeans".

To be frank, I don't think the franks and the brits have it in them either, the franks were always over-indulgent and the brits too arrogant, while the germans suffer from saviour complex. The americans on the other hand are too far away and too detached.

It is better we are left alone so we can deal with this shit ourselves.

It is not the poles who fight among themselves.

It is always the germans who bring up WW2 and start attacking brits, frenchies, poles and ruskies.

This shit is the mind cancer, and not in a good way, since it makes the germans look like niggers/jews, just replace slavery/holocoast with muh germanocoast.

this board has gone to the shitter

Is this really what Holla Forums is like? I filtered the autistic cunts that are too full of themselves to give respect where it's due. After that, there's next to nothing in the thread.

I'm starting to think one of the boys back 70 years ago is worth a 100 of anybody today, leftist, conservative, Holla Forumsack or not.

Truly, fuck you cunts.

Rest in peace everybody who fell that day, you will be missed and your sacrifice will be remembered.

I actually respect the soldiers on both sides.

Blood sacrifice OP

Worship war at your own peril, cur. Nature rules all.

And you're about the only unfiltered ID left, sad.

I will drink to that, my friend.

Filter yourself

You are a fucking cuck. As you celebrate the slaughter of your own people, your ancestors who murdered each other and themselves for central banking jew filth roll in their graves. Im sure and some point they had a moment of realisation that they could all band together and run the artillery and machinery straight into the belly of the beast that sent them to war. They were fucking cowards, we are all that is left and you know it. Stop dreaming, the information war is the final frontier of our victory over the eternal jew. Fucking stop living in the past you little bitch. What do you think these men you glorify would do in our day?

ww2 was a giant clusterfuck.
95% of the people involved were just men and boys caught up in a shitty situation. the other 5% were butchers whom destroyed the west.

Why is this thread being skilled so hard? I've never seen so many in one place except for current events.

Shilled*

Most nations of the world at that point were under control of the Rothschilds. All of these people who 'fought for their country' lost their lives for an illusion. The plan was to make the world turn against the last bastion of hope for mankind, in order to destroy it and themselves.

I will not pay respect to the dead. That is not enough. We must carry their will to the very end. We are living in a world full of unrecognised heroes, the military is for the infantile who believe honor and valor are achieved through enslavement and satanic rituals.

It sounds like you got played OP, I'm sorry but it's gonna take more than war to beat these fucking monsters that sent your forefathers to their deaths.

Fuck Every Soldier That Fought For the Jew Against the Fuehrer

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Historical context
{{see also|Events preceding World War II in Europe}}
At the conclusion of the [[World War I|First World War]], the [[German Empire]] signed the [[First Armistice at Compiègne]] on 11 November 1918 as an end to hostilities with France, the British Empire, and the United States during the convoluted [[German Revolution of 1918–19]], which began 29 October 1918.

Negotiations between the Allied powers regarding post-war Europe started on 18 January 1919 in the [[Salle de l'Horloge]] at the [[French Foreign Ministry]] on the [[Quai d'Orsay]] in Paris. Initially, 70 delegates from 27 nations participated in the negotiations. The opposing nations of the [[German Empire]] and the [[Austro-Hungarian Empire]] were excluded from the negotiations. At first a "Council of Ten" comprising two delegates each from Britain, France, the United States, Italy and Japan met officially to decide the peace terms. It became the "Big Four" when Japan dropped out and the top person from each of the other four nations met in 145 closed sessions to make all the major decisions to be ratified by the entire assembly. In June 1919, the Allies declared that war would resume if the German government did not sign the treaty they had agreed to among themselves. The government headed by [[Philipp Scheidemann]] was unable to agree on a common position, and Scheidemann himself resigned rather than agree to sign the treaty. [[Gustav Bauer]], the head of the new government, sent a telegram stating his intention to sign the treaty if certain articles were withdrawn, including articles 227, 230 and 231. In response, the Allies issued an ultimatum stating that Germany would have to accept the treaty or face an invasion of Allied forces across the Rhine within 24 hours. On 23 June 1919, Bauer capitulated and sent a second telegram with a confirmation that a German delegation would arrive shortly to sign the treaty.

On 28 June 1919, Germany signed the [[Treaty of Versailles]], a peace treaty which formally ended the state of war and imposed various punitive measures upon Germany, including [[Treaty of Versailles#Military restrictions|military restriction]], [[Treaty of Versailles#Territorial changes|loss of territory and colonies]], [[Treaty of Versailles#Reparations| war debt, and effective acceptance of blame for the initiation of hostilities in World War I]]. At the time of the armistice, an attempted [[German Revolution of 1918–19|Communist revolution]] transpired (October 1918-August 1919) , resulting in the abdication of the [[Wilhelm II, German Emperor|Emperor of Germany]] in November 1918, and what became known as the [[Weimar Republic]] was subsequently established in the wake of the uprising. The transition from [[monarchy]] to [[republic]] was difficult, and many in the new government were not supportive of the democratic system of government. The officer class gave little support to the Republic, and Germany was forced to borrow money from the United States and others to pay its [[war reparations|war debt]], imposed by the [[Treaty of Versailles]]. In the early 1920s a period of [[hyperinflation]] made the [[Reichsmark]] almost worthless. In January 1922, one [[US Dollar]] was worth 191 Marks, but by November of the same year it was equal to 4,200,000,000 Marks.{{cite web|last=Kalfus|first=Richard|title=Weimar Republic 1919-1923|url=users.stlcc.edu/rkalfus/PDFs/018b.pdf|publisher=St. Luis Community College|accessdate=6 May 2014}}

In 1932, [[Adolf Hitler]] was appointed [[List of Chancellors of Germany#Weimar Republic (Reichskanzler) (1919–1933)|Chancellor of the Reich]] following a contentious election. Under Hitler's leadership, the [[Reichstag (Nazi Germany)|Reichstag]] turned the government into an effective [[dictatorship]] under Hitler's oversight on 21 March 1933 with the passage of the [[Enabling Act of 1933]], and the economic hardships were significantly diminished via implementation of new economic and social policies. After five years in power, Hitler [[Anschluss|annexed Austria]], former component of the [[Austro-Hungarian Empire]] (allies of the former [[German Empire]]), into Germany, despite such an act (specifically, "prohibition on the merging of Austria with Germany without the consent of the League of Nations") being banned by both the [[Treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye (1919)|Treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye]] and the [[Treaty of Versailles]]. In early November 1938, the [[First Vienna Award]] was signed, allowing Germany to seize the [[Sudetenland]], a German-speaking area of [[Czechoslovakia]] which was formerly a part of the [[German Empire]]-allied [[Austro-Hungarian Empire]]. Soon after, Germany invaded the rest of Czechoslovakia and also gained [[Memelland]] (part of the former German Empire from 1871-1920) through the [[1939 German ultimatum to Lithuania]].

While some sources claim Hitler still wanted more, to create [[Lebensraum]], or "living space", for Germany, other sources claim evidence of [[Ethnic cleansing|hostility]] on behalf of Polish [[partisan (military)|partisans]] toward [[Germans|ethnic Germans]] in the [[Polish Corridor|Danzig Corridor]] (territory lost to [[Germany]] as a result of the [[Treaty of Versailles]]) which may have served as a motivating factor for the [[Invasion of Poland|German invasion]] (often portrayed as [[propaganda]] to justify German [[expansionism]]).

Two [[Western powers]], the [[United Kingdom]] and [[France]], gave [[Anglo-Polish_military_alliance#British_Guarantee_to_Poland|guarantees]] to [[Poland]] that they would declare war if Polish independence came under threat, as presented in a statement to the [[House of Commons]] by British [[Prime Minister]] [[Neville Chamberlain]] 31 March 1939 (formalized by the British 6 April 1939; not ratified until 4 September 1939 by the French):

{{quote|… in the event of any action which clearly threatened Polish independence, and which the Polish Government accordingly considered it vital to resist with their national forces, His Majesty's Government would feel themselves bound at once to lend the Polish Government all support in their power. They have given the Polish Government an assurance to this effect.

I may add that the French Government have authorised me to make it plain that they stand in the same position in this matter as do His Majesty's Government.[avalon.law.yale.edu/wwii/blbk17.asp Statement by the Prime Minister in the House of Commons on March 31, 1939.]}}

Although they honoured these guarantees by declaring war soon after Germany's [[Invasion of Poland]] on 1 September 1939,{{cite web|last=Rapten|first=Pema Dechen|title=Political Disorder: The Weimar Republic and Revolt 1918-23|url=mtholyoke.edu/~rapte22p/classweb/interwarperiod/politicaldisorder.html|publisher=Mount Holyoke College|accessdate=6 May 2014}} and although the [[Dominions]] of the British Empire quickly followed suit, so little
practical assistance was given to Poland, which was soon defeated, that in its early stages the war declared by Britain and France was described as a [[Phoney War]].

Further, neither the [[British Empire]], nor the [[France|French]], ever declared war upon the [[Soviet Union]], which invaded Poland on 17 September 1939 (17 days after [[Nazi Germany]] invaded from the West) and held sway over the former-Polish territory at the war's conclusion, having become a part of the [[Allies of World War II|Allied front]] in the course of the [[World War II|war]]. At the insistence of [[Joseph Stalin]], the post-war [[Yalta Conference]] in 1945 sanctioned the formation of a new provisional pro-Communist coalition government in Moscow, which ignored the [[Polish government-in-exile]] based in [[London]]; a move which angered many Poles, who considered it a betrayal by the [[Allies of World War II|Allies]], and, as a result, [[Anti-Communism in the Communist Bloc|as elsewhere in Communist Europe]], the Soviet occupation of Poland met with [[Cursed soldiers|armed resistance]] from the outset which continued into the fifties. The consequences of the [[Yalta Conference]] subsequently added new permanence to the end of [[Poland#Postwar communism|Polish independence]] on 22 July 1952 with the creation of the [[People's Republic of Poland]], a [[Communist]] [[puppet state]] of the [[Soviet Union]] which held sway over the territory from its inception in 1952, until [[Poland]] once again achieved [[independence]] on 13 September 1989, following the toppling of the [[Communist]] regime and preceding the [[dissolution of the Soviet Union]].

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You don't even understand the meaning of "traitor." The American soldiers on D-Day were traitors to their race. They were mostly Germanics fighting to destroy their very own people for the interest of the Jews. They were the lowest form of scum.

Dude, Irving thinks the Holocaust happened (Hitler just didn't know about it, he says). He's garbage.

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dubs confirm

Damn right I'm edgy. Those fuckers murdered a man who did nothing wrong.

Jesus Christ could you spergs take 10 seconds to read the entire first paragraph?
Guess that's why they call 'em neetsocs.

Daily reminder Churchill was a war cheerleader and good for nothing else. It was churchill who wanted the war not Hitler.

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It used to be, that even enemy soldiers received some measure of respect, at least they were not made responsible for the politic of their country, only for their personal conduct.

That changed in World War One, when the allies decided to make it a eschatological fight between good and the ultimate evil, Germans, German soldiers have been demonized since then.

In the US, in World War One this has lead to pogroms against people identifiable of German heritage, total destruction of any signs of German culture and heritage, libraries, schools, theatres, professional and recreational association, place names, anything German was whipped out. That while people of German heritage made a large (the largest) portion of the US populace of the day. Most Americans of Germans heritage changed their names, hid their origin and apparently for many it, German heritage, is still something to be ashamed of, even today. Hey they even try to use Trumps German ancestors against him.

In second World War the allies went in overdrive and made it a crime for Germans to fight for their country, supporting the war effort of their homeland has been branded like supporting a criminal enterprise, the Mafia.
Of course, there was no place to honour fallen German soldiers and if German war cemeteries were not outright levelled, like in east-Europe, it was at least “controversial” for politicians to remember the German war deaths, military or civillian, the allies made it a policy to destroy all German war memorials (a war crime itself).

The US planned the extermination of the Germans, but couldn’t pull through, because they feared the Communists, Stalin, in contrast to (((Roosevelt))), never had plans to genocide the Germans in total.

How I feel about it?
For a century Germany has been pelted with faeces, now the USA, UK and France face is plunged into their own shit, they are force feed their own refuse.

Please celebrate your (((victory))).

Only Holla Forums faggots call them "neetsocs". Stop trying to force your retarded meme, t's only giving you away.

So apparently, the side who killed more germans actually didn't want to exterminate to germans, but the side who spared hundred thousand of german soldiers actually did.

OK.

What is:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenthau_plan

Read “Other Losses” by James Bacque

And this means the germans would be exterminated, cuz they can't wage war.

Daily reminder that this kind of plan was actually implemented in Japan, and nowadays they are one of the most homogenous society on Earth.

They probably would have, since Germany's economy would've gone to shit under Hitler's rule.

Fuck off mutt.

So the self hating gook from /k/ikecentral or the subhuman Pole?

Aw shit, wrong quote, sorry.
But you all know who Im talking about.
The gook and the subhuman Pole has always been a plague on Holla Forums.
Reminder that the gook from /k/ literally shilled for multiculturalism in it's purest sense.

Because the Rhine camps didnt exist too.
But of course you are going to say something something HOLOCAUST.
We all know who you are, gook. Why dont you go home and celebrate King Nigger's visit to your rapidly degenerating country?
If you are a Pole, kek. Fucking subhuman. Not even worth my time.

There were 95% Germans on that land, it's the same Crimeans who were 80% Russian wanted to go to Russia. Poland didn't even want to allow
referendum, not even let the corridor to Prussia be under international control. And over that Britain and France were prepared to start a world war.
My whole point is that Britain France and Soviet Union wanted world war, not Germany. I

Oh yeah it does imply, it shows hatred between Poles and Germans and Poland using propaganda against the German minority in Poland at that time.
Catholic church was against Fascism and National Socialism it was in 1939 when Hitler went to Vatican, when thinkgs calmed down, but I don't see from what would they be loyal to Christian interests?

You still dont' understand. Hitler's non-agression pact with Soviet Union was so he wouldn't be attacked by them in case France and Britain declared war on Germany.
There was no strategy of playing two tigers against each other, this was what Stalin wanted with operation Thunder. What I'm saying is that Germany had no interests in pre ww1 Polish land, while Soviet Union wanted the whole Poland
and posed an actual threat to Europe. If Britain would really want to protect Poland, they should make a deal with Germany and prepare to defend against the Soviet Union.

Of course they didn't leave you dumb faggot, Britain and France just started a full blown war and Soviet Union was arming like crazy, do you even know how war works? Poland would agree to that corridor going
under international control, there would be no war with the only threat being Soviet Union and thus no need for Germany to occupy Poland.

Lol you don't know shit. Hitler retaliated after months of Churchill's bombing of German civilians.

I'm not German, but you sure are proving yourself dumb for still not seeing that your country was used by kikes to start world war and then sold you to Soviet Union after. Soviet Union killed off a fuck load of your people and you were under
Communism for half a century, it sure was worth it.

Not in comparison to what Hitler proposed.

Of course they accepted, they weren't the ones having immunity being given to them by Britain and France.

Kek, you don't know what bluff means do you?

Use of “spared” just shows the degenerated Allied world view, as if there is a right to murder prisoners of war or civilians, while claiming the moral high ground over the Germans.

The total moral degeneration of the USA is demonstrated by producing and screening films like “Inglorious Basterd”, without public condemnation, which celebrate the sadistic murder on Germans.

May I remind you, that the Nazis produced not one film, book or article in the press celebrating the sadistic murder of their enemies, not even hinting of such.

Yeah, because the Rhine camps sure killed all the germans alright.

While the germans massacred their PoWs through the eastern front, I think this view is highly hypocritical inb4 but jews and bolsheviks weren't humans
How dare they kill the nazis in the big screen lol. Go fuck yourself.

How about The Eternal Jew?

Which doesn't matter, if they like Germany so much, they can pack it up and leave to Germany.
Why the fuck would they? It's polish land.
It was Germany who invaded Poland, none of your bullshit will ever change this fact. Germany could have allied with Poland against communism, they just allied with communism to attack Poland instead.
And? I guess the holocoast also happened because there's proof that germans hated jews.
Holla Forums was always telling me how the germans were loyal christians.
Which means he allied with communism so he can gain immunity from them when he invades Poland.
Britain wanted to play Nazi Germany and the SU against each other you fool, and it played out beautifully.
What you are saying is horseshit that I do not trust, because at the end of the day, it's the germans who invaded Poland WITH the Soviet Union.
Yeah, let's try to protect Poland, by making ally with the one that invades it. Ha ha oh wow.
Britain and France declared war but it was the nazis who attacked them first. I don't know how war works, but it's sure as hell the nazis weren't willing to leave Poland.
SO ACCEPT YOUR OFFER OR WE OCCUPY YOU FOR YOUR OWN GOOD! Quite good liberators there, Germany.
The blizt happened in 1940, one year after the war begins.
All I'm seeing that our country got invaded by two most bad guys in Europe, and in the end, they all died and Poland achieved independence again. It sure is worth it now seeing the germans cucking themselves to death.
lol what? Hitler got Austria, Suetherland and he wanted the whole Danzig corridor.
Or because they realized the demand was tame and reasonable.
Bluff means you can talk shit but can't do it. Nazi Germany couldn't win WW2, their empire got reduced to ash.

Where do you think you are?

Killed enough of them to be as bad as the USSR.

This subhuman trash is probably a Pole. Doesnt matter. Pooland is kosher as fuck, and the German cuck moderate Afd is starting to name the Jews.
Im confident that the Polish subhumans will soon be exterminated in my life time and then Europe can lead the human race to space.

So a great deal of nothing, considering we could have killed them all.

Not a safe space where thoughts are controlled.

You mean the Americans and Russians right?
You didnt do shit. You are subhumans.

Poland's free army is allied with the americans.

And we did help deporting shitton of (((germans))) back to Germany, so there's never a case of muh Danzig again.

I love how the nazis whined about muh Dresden, but this shit is all okay to them:

HITLER JUST WANTED PISS GUISE, AND HE WAS VERY HONORABURU, NEVER KILL CIVIES AT ALL!

Yeah, it's useless and it baffles me how he doesn't see his country was used by kikes to start the war. If everyone in Europe would think like this hyprocritical and selfish faggot, kikes already won.

Yeah, let the kikes lose by submitting to the almighty germans instead.

KIKE OCCUPATION BAD
GERMAN OCCUPATION GOOD

Like I said, utter delusion.
Funny though. After Germany goes 4th Reich again, I will be there to help with the REAL holohocaust of kikes and the extermination of Polish subhumans, who are the most filthy, inferior and useless of all Europeans.

youtube.com/watch?v=CVjr7yaiVCw
You see this? It is an extremely rare non retarded Pole. Listen to what he says. The date might be off but it doesnt matter.
The German people will have their revenge, and the degenerate, mixed subhuman Poles will not be able to take another hit. Yet Germans will always survive and recover.

Another one:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radosław_Sikorski#Leaked_conversations_about_Britain.2C_America_and_Russia

You subhumans are living in your last few generations.

So you come from Brit/pol/? It doesnt matter though. The Polish-British promise of an alliance was, as we know, a sham.
Funny.
None of this matters. The Germans are already in the process of revitalizing themselves again, freeing their people from the shackles of the subhuman, mixed international mutts.

YOU, on the other hand, are just a bunch of loud mouthed, kosher retards. Who are not capable of producing anything to maintain yourselves, as evidence by the sorry state of your almost non existent industries, with whatever remains owned by Germans and Chinese and Russians.
History repeats itself perfectly with the subhumans, I guess.

Like some retards in Brit/pol/, they bought the ww2 proganda completely. Not to mention that they thought that being allowed to be a loud mouthed dog by anti German factions is very different from being a big dog.
They thought they could take Berlin in two weeks.
That didnt go well.

They dont. See the links above. Poles of this kind are despised everywhere. Even by themselves.

Oh I'm scared, literally shaking in my boots right now.

Do come again, (((germans))), we are waiting for you.

No more snarky remarks? I assume that you already know about all those two links.
I wont be antagonizing you further. I will now return to entertain myself in this beautiful summer.
You can go back to listening to some Steroid jacked meathead from Sabaton jerking off about 40-1 when Germans actually had less ammunition than Poland during the first few weeks.

There's no more to be had, because at the end of the days, I'm in Poland, and you are in Germany.
Enjoy your muslims, turks and niggers.

Germany wouldn't occupy your country if they got their corridor and you would have a common interest with Germany against the Soviet Union.
But since Smigly acted like he owns an almighty empire, your country got buttfucked from both sides and then thrown like a used whore under Communism for 50 years, while Britain didn't give a shit and used your people to clean their toilets.
So much for your mighty Poland in 20th century.

Also, filtered for sperging out all over the thread.

For comparison, Dresden alone was hit with 3900 tons in 2 days.

And?

Start shit, get hit 10x times as worse.

They were already occupying the country if they got the corridor.

Face it, the germans were biting more than they could chew.
Well, let's see who has the last laugh, eh, german?

the first pic, does it say that 15 millions germans lost theyre lifes?

This is what you ZOGbot defenders come down to. I weep for the loss of life of my ancestors, but that doesn't mean I respect the reason they gave their life for. Fighting ZOG's wars is the definition of a pointless death.

Actually, the majority of american recruits were volunteers.

Pearl Harbor was a disaster.

The problem with declaring war on USSR was that Poland herself did not declare war on USSR. Britain would look very foolish if she went to war over Poland against a country that Poland isn't at war with.

And France was not actually obligated to declare war on anyone. They were just terrified of Germany, as usual.

No Nazi, no Soviet, no Jap, no Chinese made ever torture porn showing their enemy sadistical murdered. The reason is easy, no sane person, with the least bit of moral remaining could watch this without questioning the righteousness of their position.

Face it, Tarantino made (((you))) looking like your own Nazi-caricature, financed by your own money, genius.

That's worse, not better.

We brought Pearl Harbor upon ourselves with that whole Hull Ultimatum shit.

If Brits are the eternal anglo then American are the eternal dindu nuffins. I'm expecting plenty of salt for this one.

Why would I appreciate europeans killing each other because their leaders invoked "patriotic fear" into them that they must suicide bomb their neighboring white men.

I'll appreciate and remember the anti-war advocates during WW2 who had the balls to stand up against the arrogant masses who alienated them for their opinions.

WW2 fighters were just sheep led to the slaughter. (especially on the allied side)

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Beating a dude with a bat isn't sadistic you know?

And the ruskies did make Come and See.

3900 is 39 times 100 but I wouldn't expect a subhuman to understand that

The funny thing is, the small minded, envious populations of secondary nations like Poland probably really believe they wont be affected by the happenings in their neighbor countries, all the while they are sucking the neighbors teats.

Rest assured that if there is ever the flag of Islam is waving over Berlin, your country isn't more secure but less.

Although the men who fought on those beaches were extraordinarily brave, I just wish they had been fighting alongside the Germans against the Bolshevik slime, and had not been so horribly duped about what they were fighting for & against.
This in no way taints the bravery of the soldiers on both sides.
I simply pray that whites will never agree to take up arms against whites, ever again.

It can be 100x times more and it would still be justified.

When you start war, don't get mad when you get beaten.

Germans thinking they are more important than they actually are, as usual.

Germany as a country is just as good as trade hub due to its central Europe position, if you guys go crazy again, it would just be cause to unite and beat you again.

You got nowhere to escape to.

Every. Fucking. Time.

I might be a Holla Forumslack, but I am always /k/ as fuck.

A heartfelt salute to the brave warriors who faced death and fought. Eternal honor and respect.

Germany is the heart of Europe and it is constitutional for it, without Germany there would be no Europe and particular to your little nation, Poland, any piece of civilisation you have, you own to Germany.
Germany is full of leeches, bloodsucker surround us, they have stolen our currency and put under control of an mafiosi, our treacherous government is actively sabotaging us, but still we are the economically most powerful nation in Europe, even under foreign occupation and shackles.

Delusions of grandeur.

Be careful, next time you might be smashed like a fly on the windscreen, as your former foreign minister warned you.

It's not delusion of grandeurs when you have been beaten the same way in two wars.

The first time it was conditional.

The second it was unconditional.

The third time?

Quite a boast for a "nation" that hasn't been a thing until Bismarck.

Yankees did nothing wrong!

Poland can not into space and history.

Oh yeah, American families were so in danger
Did you read Hitler invasion plans for the US? He wanted to drop 6 trillion Zyklon B cans on New York alone!

As if Germany can into space and history either.

WE WUZ YUROPE

Never mind that the romans, french, british and even us poles (we actually managed to win against the ruskies) surpassed them.

Fuck the ZOGbot pro-commie traitors and the mess they left us with. Every time I hear of some WW2 vet getting culturally enriched I think "you got what you deserved you cunt".

The Axis soldiers were true heroes though, their sacrifice and resistance against the evil of the Allies will never be forgotten.

ftfy

They were clueless and dubbed into it, that is why are they called “bots”, they had no idea to what that would lead, in contrast to arch-traitors like Churchill.

I doubt that many Germans had an idea in 1939, what has been at stake, that Jews, Turks, Negros and Arabs would take over the capitals of Europe. The current situation would haven been considered outlandish by everyone except some crazy plotters (Coudenhove-Kalergi) and those few people calling them out (themself slandered as crazies).

Yeah, thanks Allied vets of WWII thanks a fucking lot, glad the few of you left are forgotten in piss-soaked nursing homes being abused by nigger and spic orderlies.

Is it true or not that the Allies aided and abetted Soviet expansionism and communist tyranny including the murders of tens of millions of ethnic Russians, Ukrainians and others?

They people listening to Lindbergh, Coughlin and others knew exactly what was going on, too bad those people were silenced during and after the war.

But they can know that now though. If they truly care about their country, then there's no excuse to cling to whatever falsehoods they were led into believing about World War 2.

In the wake of stopping Nazi expansionism including the murder of millions of russians, ukrainians and poles, yes.

inb4 all lies

How was the US "fighting for its country"? We could've stayed out of it entirely and were only dragged into it because commie FDR kept attacking German and Japanese merchant shipping to provoke an attack which he allowed to happen so he could go aid his communist allies.

Fuck off back to wherever you came from, normalfag.

Before or after they were being raped and murdered by Soviet savages?

Invading other countries is expansionism yes.
Just like the "tens of millions" of ethnic russians, ukrainians bodies that the Soviet apparently killed?

See for yourself.

I think they have more respect for the Soviet vets than some of you youngsters.

Retaking territory with your own ethnics residing upon it who want to be reunited with their fatherland and free of foreign tyranny isn't expansionism. And the bodies of the victims of Soviet tyranny are documented, their graves full of bones can be found, but the bdies of the victims of the Holohoax just magically vanished from this plane of existence.

So, are you a ruskie, a pole, what manner of Easter European slav shit are you that you're so desperate to keep the WWII myth alive? Or maybe you're just a worthless leftist britfag?

Staged propaganda photo ops by corporate and state media doesn't impress me.

Nope, international banking being pissed the German reasserted her sovereignty rather than staying shackled in debt slavery is what started WWII. World Jewry declared war on Germany first.

One should no overestimate the general population interest in politics then and today, nor the available means of information. There was probably less censorship, but less choice of media as well. Today one has to visit obscure, in the literal form of meaning, Cambodian knitting pattern forums, to get unfiltered informations and opinions.

Britain and France were wrongfully occupying Germany with their banker proxies and reduced the German state and people to debt slavery so they wouldn't have economic competition against their banking empire. But let's ignore WWI and pretend the belligerents were Germany instead of Britain and their toady, France.

I'm pretty sure 7c5835 is a pollack, since he seems obsessed with the whole GERMANS INVADED POLAND crap, which is bullshit, since most of that "Polish" territory was German territory wrongfully given to the Poles by the shitty Treaty of Versailles. Poles were wrongfully occupying German land and abusing German ethnics, but what can you expect in a country which, at the time, was full of kikes. Poles should thank Germans because there hasn't been so many kikes in Poland since the Germans came to town which is why Poland is one of the few nations left in modern Europe to fight the leftist insanity and resist rapefugee invasion.

Was only a formality at the point, since the US had been attacking German civilian shipping and arming the Soviets for years prior. The US was already illegitimately waging war against Germany against the will of the American people well before Pearl Harbor, after Pearl Harbor there was no longer any point to continue the charade and pretend a state of war didnt exist between the two nations.

This despite the fact the US was attacking German civilian merchant shipping and were running arms to communists.

It was either take Czechoslovakia or wait for it to fall to the Reds, same with Poland, same with most of Eastern Europe. The Soviets were gearing up an expansionistic push and communist terrorists were running rampant throughout Europe, launching attempts at revolution, rioting in the streets, assassinating political leaders.

My country was neutral in the entire shitfest that was WWII. I'll say this, doesn't matter what side we would have fought on, it's my country and my nation right or wrong.

Of course, one also has to consider that the leaders of the Allies (except maybe de Gaulle) did not have the best interest of their nations at heart during the entire affair. However stupid Hitler might have been, he did have the best interests of Germany (even if a shitty Austrian perspective of what "best" is) at heart.

True, but than they have do accept the consequences of doing so.

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RIP the poor bastards who got dragged into the kike's and their supporters (cough Britain) global schemes.

This subhuman is still at it!
Maybe if Poles were so good, they wouldnt have acted just like the shitskin invaders before this current invasion!
Oh wait…
SCIENCE. Something useless subhumans like kikes and Poles can never achieve.

Most of the your run of the mill, hypocritical Turk like Poles HAVE to keep the Holohoax myth alive, same for other anti German bullshit, while leeching German money at the same time.
Just ask yourself who benefits the most from a cucked Germany after the kikes?
Who is the second promoter of the Holohoax myth?

also want to know this.

translation plox.

Fuck that. I respect the National Socialists and that's it!

Pic fucking related, we also landed a satellite on a fucking comet recently btw.

Ok, THIS is just bait.

I have several family members that died there. I still mourn for them for the whole week every year