ITT we discuss leftist politics

actually no government is the ideal

but without goverment who manages property?

the individual?

So that would be privately owned property

unless you're thinking of an ideal anarchist utopia where everyone universally agrees to share held land

but that wouldn't be a true anarchy, that would be a republic

you leftists sure are silly sometimes with your not making any sense

Anyone who opposes anarcho-capitalism is probably a beta male.
Plus why do they always discuss the worst possible scenario with anarch-capitalism, that's like if we were talking about america's government and you always said "yeah I won't have a house or home and I'll be on the streets"

itt stfu

only a beta male would laugh at the oppressed
skinnyfag are ye?

i never advocated for the lack of self ownership so im not sure what you're getting at
if there is no government you organize with your community
the absurd argument that me and my neighbors agreeing not to shit in the park is the same as government fining anyone that pisses on a tree is really far fetched
same with any issue
if me and my neighbors agree to fund road building that is not the same as a government tearing up roads yearly to make itself appear relevant

nice spooks nerd

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At worst you'd probably be the guards (which could be representative of the middle class in the scenario) considering that 4/6 of the population in that pic were guards.
Having empathy isn't necessarily beta - being emotionally immature and hypersensitive. The ancap in that picture wasn't actually devoid of empathy, he's probably providing stuff for the guards too, which is implied from their expensive-looking combat armour and devotion to him.

Marxists are people without a country, mongrels who got cut off from their roots, so they cannot relate to folk who have this great treasure - their own nation with people and culture. Yet they have a natural longing to be a part of something bigger, this longing is so strong that they don't mind becoming an exploited proletariat to some political elite or kill and destroy, what other people have built, for them its justice. For them no price is to high to create their imaginary utopia, because they're never the ones who pay it.

didnt even read who replied to, but you fucking leftist idiots always say this, "I didnt advocate for no personal ownership!" then I ask, "then why dont you think I should be able to personally own a factory?" and then you say "MUH BOURGEOISIE", and then I say, "so you aren't for personal ownership you fucking idiot" and you just keep going even though thats the end of it. You are NOT for personal ownership, you are not for it in the least bit, but you're too fucking dumb to understand that fact. You realize people actually own their businesses right? Do you get that? People actually save their fucking money, buy a little ass god damn building, and fucking sell stuff and do business out of it, then they make more money, buy a bigger business, and so on until they die. Then their kids do the same shit having inherited the business, and eventually you get stuff like Walmart. What about this is unclear?

reading who you replied to, and who he replied to, this post makes so sense, but damn do I hate communists

Leftist politics are all variations of Marxism, Communism, and general Anti-Human hippy propaganda.

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speak for yourself

i wasnt even talking about your pic but replying to your post
if you want to critique art im out of here user

Is this true?

who knows
the savages were killing each other every chance they got

>Make the government a corporation that has all the power!

See? Realizing that the ideal, the property, the Human, is fake matters so that you may think about your property and the real human.

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back to reddit

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brexit won!

It's 6000,0000,0000,000,001 actually, get it right cis wuht Shitlord.

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No.

The Meaning of Meaning
The Meaning of Meaning: A Study of the Influence of Language upon Thought and of the Science of Symbolism (1923) is a book by C. K. Ogden and I. A. Richards, Magdalene College, University of Cambridge.

So what happens when I come and shit in the park and tell you to go fuck yourself when you ask me not to?

Both left and right are shit, only retards identify with the left and right paradigm.

fuck both Holla Forums and Holla Forums.

That's why I think that communism is shit too, nationalism and communism are both stupid and create unnecessary division and mutual hate.

I like that Holla Forums despises politics and religion.

PSA: you, sir, win the internets i salute you

Thank you sir, have some cake.

That image refers to the US bipartisan system, where the republicans don't represent the right and the democrats don't represent the left. Instead they represent the establishment, the elite.

What do you feel is superior to every single ideology considered left or right wing? Anarchy?

What a joke. There was fighting and brutality on both colonial and Indian sides. The Indians would have genocided the colonists if they could. Most of them died from disease anyway.

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I didn't say the truth is always in the middle, the truth is it's own thing, it needs no definition or direction, it is also rarely centered in a specific direction, beware of any group that claims monopoly on the truth.

this image can be understood in the context of us politics and it can be understood in the context of right vs. left politics.
it's meant here to highlight that both directions only serve the same corrupt establishment.

what is superior is the lack of identification with specific political way and the correct priority arrangement, the individual is a as important as the whole, the less definition of thought and more flexibility the better, when thought tries to fit into a mold stagnation happens and thought is corrupted.

Your incoherent rambling is a recipe for stagnation.

mkay let's have a pre-packaged ideology instead.
That will work.jpg

No shit it's dumb to buy into any prepackaged ideology 100%. That doesn't mean that anything considered left or right is equally bullshit.

Again, where do you think the truth lies?

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WE WUZ ATLANTEANS AND SHEEEIT

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Stalin did nothing wrong

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found the song

This thread needs more Stalin

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Karl Marx is my waifu

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better than shitty japanese sailor uniform

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A BAG FULL OF APPLES, cartoon, USSR, 1974 (with English subtitles)

MISS NEW YEAR, USSR, cartoon, 1991 (with ENGLISH subtitles)

don't show the americans these kind of soviet cartoons
all they do is make porn of it
they are shallow and only urge driven creatures that cannot appreciate this art without corrupting it to their level

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oh no

THE PILL, cartoon (1983, USSR, with English subtitles)

Припев:

Нам Сталин — отец, нам Родина — Мать,
Сестра и подруга — Советская Власть,
В заступниках — Сергий, в сподвижницах — Русь,
Соратник — Советский Союз!

Здесь наша земля, наш истерзанный Рим.
Сионские гунны глумятся над ним,
Да будет не принявшим рабства в пример
Наш сталинский СССР!

Припев

Тот истинно русский на Русской Земле,
Кто быть за неё сам себе повелел,
России вовеки достоин лишь тот,
Кто в бой за Россию идёт!

Припев

Был русским Сусанин,
Был русским царь Пётр.
И мы — не изгои, мы — Русский Народ.
Взрастим же по-сталински твёрдых вождей
Во имя победы своей!

Припев

И знайте, друзья, что торжественно прост,
За Русский Народ поднимает свой тост
Учитель и вождь, государь и мудрец
Наш, русский, грузин и отец!

Припев:

Нам Сталин — отец, нам Родина — Мать,
Сестра и подруга — Советская Власть,
В заступниках — Сергий,
В сподвижницах — Русь,
Соратник — Советский Союз!

Nature is marvellous, the forest is green and wonderful,
The road is in front of us,
The sawn-off gun is in my hands,
Someone has a grenade, someone has UZI…
And here it is! Inomarka ! Stop! Put on the brakes!
("Inomarka" - car produced abroad, here means defiantly expensive car, symbol of "new russians")
For we live in the kolhoz (collective farm) " Daybreak of October Revolution",
And now, a beast, we will fry you.
For we stand for Soviet Power, we stand for red flag.
And it will be so, by the testament of Lenin.
Climb out, bourgeouis!
We will judge you.
You will pay for your treashery of motherland…
Birds are singing, gnats are humming,
Dead bourgeouises are stihkink, how I'm glad, only stink…

Sky is blue, bright sunshine.
Someone's inomarka trown down to a ditch.
And it will soon spread over whole our Russia, our fighting call
"Stop! Put on the brakes!"
For we live in kolhoz "Daybreak of October" …

I miss him.

Source for the webm. Thanks.

Trying to find the song.

the songs title is "Grün ist unser Fallschirm" (Green is our Parachute), sung by the Bundeswehr actually, been with (not one myself) paratroopers too. was pretty neat.

original version

btw, Nazifags probably wanna know this
they got a pretty badass slogan in the Fallschirmjäger troups:
Learning through pain
Motivation through horror

their battlecry is "Glück ab", literal translation "(good) luck (getting) down"

newbies that have some coal miners background in their hometown or family even get confused and yell "Glück auf!", which means "luck up" (obvious reason). almost pissed myself laughing on our first line up when our leader had to calmly explain them their mistake. but how the fuck would you even confuse that in the first place? lol

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Всем!

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this is my land
this is my love
happiness of the collective striving of all useful people
my land is that of labour victories
the hardly grasped wonder, being sated every day for everyone
not one person of 17 million people in my land is under those who famish on this earth
commitmend for all of us
satisfaction as well
here the might of the workers and peasents prevailed
this victory is final

always the children rely on us big and strong ones
willing and competent, to secure the small and weak

my land is on soil soaked by the blood of anti fascists, soviet soldiers, the heroes
is inerasable memory of those murdered
oath to force, together with the people of the world, the peace in this world

the path towards a joyful time
laid out by the party
we build it strong and wide
because millions are the party
comrades show the way
comrades lead the way
comrades secure the fruits of the revolution

from the people
with the people
soldiers fight against all threats
standing up to every demand
they force way for life

I love my country, the multiple green, lakes, meadows, forests, flowers in spring, the autumn wind fresh, full, mature fields. The flowers in the spring, the autumn wind fresh, full, mature fields.

I love my country and my city, her keen and constant bustle. Here are my friends, here I'll hand. So it should remain. Here are my friends, here I'll hand. So it should remain.

I love my country, the worry about whether everything also succeed us that every year with love and sweat us further bring a good deal, that every year with love and sweat us further bring a good deal.

*And if I'm still far from content myself with all this, so I do everything, yes everything so nobody ever puts it in danger, so I do everything, yes everything so nobody ever puts it in danger.

meanwhile, our "nationalist" Holla Forumsack poets:
HURR HURR NIGGER NIGGER JEW MUSLIM DURR

This is our land!

Evening it is, and the stars light illuminates the night. Dreams imagined a better world in the distance.
Chorus: dream becomes life when coming to an end the dark night. Green Sprouts, bold bright days, the sun shines.

stormy clouds pushing mountains before the stars light - nightlydark, your strength will not last as long

after grief, misery and wars turned your day to night, shining brightly free the world awakens to this victory.

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March of the Soviet Tankists

one more

how on earth is it possible

english is so bad it ruins every glorious soviet song being translated
even the instrumental goes to shit

fucking america, you deserve nothing but death for this crime

kek
this amuses me greatly

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so pretty much the origin plot of assassins creed?

go home ami, go home! ~

my favorite and most spooky communist song ever
the komintern anthem

The victimhood leftist aspire to

Greatly appreciated, hombre

oh my god i just found the best thing ever

youtu.be/AnyjYzBu1pE?list=PLlO0ckvbly9USZBac9oHTnOBkH6he4v6C

95 videos
National Peoples Army of the German Democratic Republic to its national holiday

a huge fucking medley of all the best shit they got

sweeeeet

As long as you can d&c the white man, schlomo

hardcore

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wew

the only identity is class identity, fool

Sorry but as a libertarian I think that's an awful idea, private property is power to the people, if you take away our land you are infringing upon our freedom.

communism was the biggest scam since timeshare.

this

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sage

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why

no

Go back across the Bering Strait where you came from

Troekurovo russian commercial fox video

There's so many strawmen in this thread fire marshals are having heart attacks.

But you're pretty much saying that war and conquest are somehow good when whites win.

wew

why do you guys hate democracy so much?
a government by the people and not profit interest groups cannot be tyranny by definition, it is nationalization and socialization of the MoP in the same
just look at the soviet union under stalin

Eugene Lyons,(10) in his biography entitled Stalin: Czar of All the Russias, describes Stalin's simple way of life:

"Stalin lives in a modest apartment of three rooms…. In his everyday life his tastes remained simple almost to the point of crudeness…. Even those who hated him with a desperate hate and blamed him for sadistic cruelties never accused him of excesses in his private life….

"Those who measure `success' by millions of dollars, yachts and mistresses find it hard to understand power relished in austerity….

"There was nothing remotely ogre-like in his looks or conduct, nothing theatrical in his manner. A pleasant, earnest, ageing man – evidently willing to be friendly to the first foreigner whom, he had admitted to his presence in years. `He's a thoroughly likeable person', I remember thinking as we sat there, and thinking it in astonishment." (E. Lyons: Stalin: Czar of All the Russias; Philadelphia; 1940; p. 196, 200).

Lyons asked Stalin "Are you a dictator?":

"Stalin smiled, implying that the question was on the preposterous side.

"`No', he said slowly, `I am no dictator. Those who use the word do not understand the Soviet system of government and the methods of the Communist Party. No one man or group of men can dictate. Decisions are made by the Party and acted upon by its organs, the Central Committee and the Politburo.'" (E. Lyons: ibid.; p. 203).
mltranslations.org/Britain/StalinBB.htm

Stalins struggle for democratic Reforms - part 1 and 2

"He was responsible for the deaths of millions of people but at least he didn't spend too much on caviar."

Holy fucking shit dude I'm left-wing as fuck but even to me this argument sounds fucking retarded.

ITT:

My partition of society is better than yours.

"You speak of your `devotion' to me…. I would advise you to discard the `principle' of devotion to persons. It is not the Bolshevik way. Be devoted to the working class, its Party, its state. That is a fine and useful thing. But do not confuse it with devotion to persons, this vain and useless bauble of weak-minded intellectuals." (J. V. Stalin: Works, Volume 13; Moscow; 1955; p. 20).

Nope, sorry. The Stalinist regime killed millions of people and that is a historical fact.

babbies first discussion, cute
yelling "fact" doesn't make one
numbers do

red-channel.de/geschichtsluegen.htm

Sturmovik
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-2

Ah yes, I'm sure this will be a source of unbiased information.

Reminder Revolutionary Catalonia was closer to real socialism than the USSR and produced greater worker liberation than tankfags can dream of.

kek, typical anarkiddy on their brown pill

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"As for myself, I am just a pupil of Lenin's, and the aim of my life is to be a worthy pupil of his….

"Marxism does not deny at all the role played by outstanding individuals or that history is made by people. But… great people are worth anything at all only to the extent that they are able correctly to understand these conditions, to understand how to change them. If they fail to understand these conditions and want to alter them according to the promptings of their imagination, they will find themselves in the situation of Don Quixote….

"Individual persons cannot decide. Decisions of individuals are always, or nearly always, one-sided decisions…. In every collective body, there are people whose opinion must be reckoned with…. From the experience of three revolutions we know that out of every 100 decisions taken by individual persons without being tested and corrected collectively, approximately 90 are one-sided….

"Never under any circumstances would our workers now tolerate power in the hands of one person. With us personages of the greatest authority are reduced to nonentities, become mere ciphers, as soon as the masses of the workers lose confidence in them." ((J. V. Stalin: Works, Volume 13; Moscow; 1955; p. 107-08, 109, 113).

Bakunin was right about everything

Stay mad tankiddie

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'THE FOX, THE BEAR AND THE MOTORCYCLE AND SIDECAR', cartoon, USSR, 1969 (with English subtitles)

Fairy Tales for adults and children, cartoon, USSR, 1967 (with ENGLISH subtitles)

THE TAILS, cartoon, 1966, USSR (with ENGLISH subtitles)

Nice strawman fegget.

From this statement, we could draw that i was saying that people who support the image i replied to, believe the following things:

Good probably isn't the correct word. People still tend to view all wars as bad. But when it is between only whites or only non-whites, it's just another tragic event. But when it's between whites and non-whites, it's suddenly this big moral crusade.

I have a serious question, not at all trolling for leftists.

Okay After the recent terror attacks the Mayor of London, the Chancellor of Germany, and the mayor of NYC ALL said the best defense against future attacks was MORE Muslim immigration.

What do they mean by that?

At first I thought, "Do they think that will make them like us more?" But that sounded ridiculous. That never helped any nation facing this problem. Then I thought, "Do they want normal Muslims around to narc on the bad ones?" That sounds even stupider. Clearly I'm not even going in the right direction.

So what DO they mean?

they mean they need more power
goverment will fix this problem it totally did not openly create

youtube.com/watch?v=vIrFpeEudLQ&feature=youtu.be

hmm

no

Then whose stopping me from gaining capital?
communism will never work.
Communism relies on willing participants. Capitalism doesn't. The only way you can opt out of capitalism is by killing yourself. In a communist society you can easily op out while still receiving the benifits of society.

You claim to be for the working class but I doubt you know any real working class people. Just the other day me and my co-workers were talking about how if we didn't have to worry about money we would do nothing all day.

no one and why would they?

thats good, so whats your point?

the rest of your post implies that there are only two options and they are either communism or capitalism - your useful idiot spam is not welcome here until you wise up

wew

go on

Unfortunately I'm not 16 anymore.

wew

You must be 18 years or older to post on this site.

im 12

So do left wing politics not exist?

How old are you?

labels are so often used that they scare some people

My internet philosophy will solve all your problems.

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hi pol

hi pol

choose both