Why did these peer to peer programs fall out of favor, was it due purely to legal troubles?

Why did these peer to peer programs fall out of favor, was it due purely to legal troubles?

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People stream music now and us folk use torrents and soulseek

I kind of miss limewire.

they sold out their userbase to Microsoft for $8bn

Downloading albums 1 mp3 at a time is shit, lots of shit rips and fakes floating around because you can't include a log that proves the shit is legit. Torrents are superior in every way

Good riddance.

Bittorrent has hammered other forms of P2P with it ability to handle very large files. Also many traditional P2P networks wore based in the wrong country (e.g. the US) and got sue, tho some are decentralized and still capable of use, for example Kazaa, eDonkey (and unofficial clients like eMule and aMule) and hacked version (also in a no particularly good manner version 5.5.10 and under) still work, even tho the companies that make them are closed.

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WinMX > Limewire > Kazaa

I started with WinMX and then moved on to the others, but WinMX was definitely the most Holla Forumsp2p.

I used warez

it's how I downloaded hentai early on like la blue girl, elven bride and dragon pink among others

winmx was the shit

What, you didn't like taking days to download an episode of anime on dial-up only to find out it was actually russian cp?

A lot of these things are still somewhat popular in Brazil and China from what I can tell, Japan seems to still use things like perfect dark and share. A lot of people still use DC on IRC networks with bots for automation.

It seems like these things fall out of use because of evolving software and advances in networking protocols, you look at how many times people extend old clients and protocols its no wonder people make something new and migrate, if only for some expected standards across clients. I'd post the ADC flow chart but I'm on a mobile right now.

I'm looking forward to the next generation of P2P as I always am, these existing systems work but these new ones tend to work better because they can learn from or build on the older concepts. Seeing IPFS development has me excited, I love P2P networking but people mostly talk about it for piracy despite it having legitimate value for almost any kind of data transfer, I hope IPFS gets some legitimate adoption, long term pipe dream would be seeing them influence ISPs to make their networks more P2P friendly ( no monthly caps, synchronous speeds, led NAT bullshit, etc.)

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Ares used to be popular in Mexico up until recently. It was used by trashy Mexicans who miraculously managed to learn to use it back in 2008 to download banda, cumbia, reggaeton and corridos, and not long ago it used to be the program you used to get this kind of music. Then Spotify arrived, smartphones and mobile internet became cheaper, and the old days of stashing your own music on your computer or iPod are gone and replaced with music streaming that Just Werks™.

I will always hoard my own music

Better alternatives

Gabe Newell is often quoted saying something like; piracy is the result of a distribution problem. I'm not surprised people are choosing services like those where they can pay a fee and basically get unlimited curated music, I don't know how I feel about it myself yet since the old ways are still working for me.

It is interesting to see services like this being forced into existence regardless, it seems like P2P tech being so convenient is forcing people to make more appealing products with competitive pricing. I hope consumers are winning for once.


Same

ive also been wondering what happend to it. it was more efficient to download music that way. all it needed was a web of trust to filter out spam and mislabelled content, which bittorrent still lacks anyway. The difference between browsing shitty torrent websites to find something VS just searching by name in a standardized way is *huge*.

kill yourself faggot. p2p is the only way to share files without relying on some fisher-price regulated socialized commercialized consumer garbage such as cucktube. centralized file hosting doesnt even make sense in the slightest for any use case. youtube *still* cant even implement seeking properly, about a decade after it was created

Again, in Mexico the most popular gaming platform is always the cheapest one. So far this has always meant the one that is easiest to pirate, but as of lately people have been picking up on just how dirt cheap Steam is.

not even close. if anything we are way worse than we were before because we have moved from acquiring defective property to just renting it
defectivebydesign.org/drm-streaming

Piracy today is mostly about TV shows, movies, and games. Music piracy is dead for normalfags since you can listen to anything you want on Youtube. BitTorrent swarms are much, much more efficient for those purposes.

Individual users are more at risk because you're deliberately providing a collection of files instead of temporarily taking part in a bittorrent swarm.

They depend on servers to connect clients to each other, which either get taken down quickly, or the community is too thinly spread across different networks and it becomes inconvenient.

The more secure and decentralized alternatives like Freenet are both slow as balls and filled with CP, scaring any legitimate users off.

Pick one.

Gnutella, emule, etc have been overrun with pedophiles.

They are still the number one way sick fucks trade CP, luckily, it's easy for police to catch them.

A study from 2015 found over 4 million IP's downloading CP on gnutella and emule

Multiple reasons.

— Centralization. It was easy to claim that if a company-controlled server did not censor certain terms, the company assisted in piracy. Networks that used third party servers and DHTs lasted longer. Some countries, like Germany, outlawed some filesharing software anyway.

— Network access improvements. Dialup modem users and session-centered (batched) activity were still common in the first half of the 00s. That limited amount of metadata you can exchange and time/traffic you can spend on that compared to valuable data transfer itself. Thick client that analyzes file parameters and metadata database on server made sense. Then people switched to always-on dedicated connections and could participate in more complex networks that reigned in second half of the 00s. In some countries, ISPs valued file sharing between clients inside their networks as a tool to lower external traffic payments high enough to encourage it and created dedicated catalogs of magnet/ed2k/TTH hashes filled by users and indexing bots.

— Convenience (this is associated with previous point). When you waited for 15-20 minutes to get one song, ability to filter the best option was very important. When traffic prices dropped, both media collections like allofmp3 could flourish and users were able to laid back and click on as many web pages as they wanted to decide what they needed. Dedicated file sharing software remained useful for heavy content and mass sharing. Bittorrent, today's survivor, does not provide any metadata except that is needed to reconstruct the files, and it's because you rely on web sources to provide information and categorization that have unlimited flexibility.

— Fashion. I remember the time every second community tried to have their tracker in addition to chat, forum, etc. Then social networks happened and now everyone acts as if users were always that stupid.

— Legal enforcement. While non-anonymous networks were always non-anonymous, entertainment industry spent some time lobbying all the changes to let private companies (themselves) provide evidence for piracy cases and harass users.

Also, most programs still work just as well when you need to transfer some big files without searching for third party.

Remember, kids, if someone on the net says “X is/was good but pedos killed it”, you've spotted a shill. There is never an explanation how your sharing of linux CD images transforms into transfer of outlawed data.

The tactic has had a name for 30 years: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Infocalypse


I doubt it. You can present eDonkey as an active child porn scene only if your intent is to scare public by big numbers.


More like “complete idiots, like your neighbor Joe, looking for new thrills in porn”. You can present average people as child abusers only if your intent is to scare public by big numbers.


That's roughly 0.01% of all address space, or 10 in 100 000, which is significantly less than number of registered sex offenders in US (300 in 100 000). Woo-hoo, Internet is actually safer than real life!

Yes, there are big problems with my attempt at statistics. But, as leaked documents on Freenet have shown, you shouldn't expect their “studies” are any better.

Make something cheap enough and people anywhere will actually spend money rather than pirate. Russia is still one of the world's biggest pirates yet they are also the biggest market for Steam.

why do they always choose things like this.
no matter if its mindows, streaming or smartphones, normies always make the solution that was made for the biggest retards popular.

Youtube has high bitrate audio streams in modern formats, which are way better than 128 kbps MP3. Try ytdl -F. Lossless would have no benefit in many cases due to listening environment and/or personal equipment.

You don't understand that even if those people had to listen to 64 kbps music for all their lives, that wouldn't matter to most of them. Even quality of music itself doesn't matter.

Not really. They just work much more badly than BT. DC++ and its spinoffs was decent but it got lots of people in trouble for hosting hubs. eMule, kaZaa, Shareaza, Limewire, Gnutella etc. simply worked badly (at least in my country, nothing should be throttled though) and there were mostly fakes, viruses ("porn") and national movie productions like Duumilaakson Tarinoita.

Pick one, nigger. Get a job.

If I payed for all my music I'd be down 100K. I have a pretty good job, but just no. I pay for most of the music I so happen to like, typically be going to their concerts. You didn't even address the second post you quoted.

didn't know about that one at all, thanks user

audiogalaxy was best, fite me irl

Needs md5 and user votes

Isn't having decentralized user votes just asking for sybil attacks?

i had pizza when i was 20 by mistake at least with torrents things get verified usually

You are used to centralized catalogs and have forgotten the people who made collection torrents of everything they had on their drives.

Please take a belt sander to your skull.

If you are trying to track down a rare file emule is still quite often the only place where you'll find it.

soulseek is still unmatched for music.

If Tyrone paid for all that shit he stole, he'd be even more of a welfare nigger.

Goddamnit, Frostwire. Why do I miss you?

Maybe to host torrent files or magnet links, but distributed hash tables are a pretty common sight these days.

The company has a copy. You have a copy. How are you taking anything when no one loses anything?

I started out with WinMX with a 56k modem. Those were the days.

Seriously, off yourself.