The reason I am a leftist is because I don't believe in government leading the people. That is slavery...

The reason I am a leftist is because I don't believe in government leading the people. That is slavery. Tyranny of the worst kind, people get taught to believe they are free.

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And leftism has been subverted very heavily.

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Is this why you want to increase the government's involvement in economical and industrial life?

If you don't want the government to tell me what to do with your money, why do you want tehm to get 75% of your paycheck?

Once other people start to work for me for free, I will think again about that. Before that, go die in a gutter poorfag.

If I am free, can I choose to not be part of the socialist state?


Once you agree to give up your material wealth you will start giving lectures about hurting the economy.

So you're an lolbergtardian?

The political spectrum exists on a four sided axis of Left/Right and Authoritarian/Libertarian. In your own OP you post Lenin and Leninism advocates for a state. It's also completely retarded because the workers do not equally deserve the means of production as anyone with retarded co-workers (everyone) can tell you.

The only good system is a meritocracy where leftists are killed for their ridiculous notions and beliefs in equality of outcome.

Now stop shilling you garbage ideology on Holla Forums and post gore or traps, we're here to fap and tell spooky stories.

you seem confused, thats what Holla Forums is all about. Holla Forums.. communism.. is about being a faggot that cant wipe their ass without government approval.

Half of Holla Forums want a dictatorship. The others want voluntarism. Weird mix.

You are making zero sense OP.

Every leftist in the world (except for you it seems) believes in big powerful governments leading the people..

not, really /both sides are about government control, can't have that.

I want the opposite of that.

Yeah, and I want to abolish that state anyway.

It sounds like you have simply misunderstood the term leftist.

lenin is depicted with an ayy lmao, his theories are shit

So, you want low taxes and no nationalisation of any industry?
You want few regulations?
Strong economic liberty?

I don't think "left" is the word you want to use.

Define some words for me, I'll consider your elaboration.

This is Internet autism.

Political spectrums are way more complicated. You got an acceptable simplification with the economical freedom/individual freedom/political freedom

Ask them about freedom.

Hey dumb fuck, left is not a synonym with liberal. If you want communism you are authoritarian. These so called "liberals" aren't actually liberal, they are simply "progressive" which dips heavily into authoritarian

oh so your not a leftist your a retarded anarchist. Id love anarchy, id kill you and take all your shit.

Left wing people believe in collectivism. Stuff like wealth redistribution, regulation, government intervention.
These require a large state to enforce them and make them work.

The right believes in individualism, personal responsibility and the free market.
For these people a large state is an unnecessary burden.

All governments are a mixture between these two attitudes.

You can probably tell I lean more towards the right wing. But at the moment you arent even up to the point where you can define the different political stances correctly and understand what each group wants. That is step 1.

You can always try biatch.

The right can exist in totally decentralised or centralised powers or anything in between. Pinochet and Singapore are not the same thing.

The left can only exist with a centralised power because if anarchy ever became a thing, it would not be able to stop its people to form another government instead not it would be able to sop other countries to take over.

No need to be on the offensive friend.

You are lucky: you live in a free country. We have anarchist communities and the like in north America and Europe. Feel free to join one and to stop bitching on the internet/breaking shops.

Right also needs centralised power.
"Free markets" don't exist, and you need the state to ruthlessly break up monopolies.

Monopolies never get broken up in America, because all Americans are libtard Atlas Shrugged reading classcucks.

Monopolies always happen.

In lefty places like where I live we have awful government monopolies on many things.
That is much worse than you yanks.

People leading people is instinctual faggot.
Because you lack the inability, confidence and knowhow to be the alpha male it doesn't mean others do.
Fuck off cuck.

pic very much related

You've already lost sense in the OP.
God, it's like leftists get more and more stupid each day.

Get serious about politics or go fuck yourself, but keep your nonsense for you, or for your mother :^)

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what you're reading is a bait thread

I'm reading those dubs

Have you ever seen a political compass before, kid? There are authoritarians on the left. Saying you are a leftist has nothing to do with if you swing to the authoritarian or libertarian side.

I honestly hope this is b8, if so, 9/10

toppest of keks

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A bunch of inaccurate, emotional broad words that fullfill grammatical and lingustic standards to active a certain reaction. Generic.

The government cant even give free healthcare to 1% of the population without a great amount of issues.

Your wrong

Faggot
The left and right wing are both shit

Discordianism is the only truth.

Although clearly communist biased and just a little ad-hominem, that chart is really nice.

Communism is the government leading the people, state owned everything

Daily reminder that slavery started with the left.

Fresh OC

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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me?

mind joining me in my thread?
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partly not and partly so. partly, a complete lack of apathy for your thread, as well.

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I recognize you

y-yes user?

Post more of these japanese fruits.

I didn't mean to use my capcode, but I'm not going to fix it.

My secret is out!

i would rather reserve them for epic reaction faces tbqhwy

Why aren't you BO anymore?

Hey OP…I don't care about all the people talking in your thread…but listen:
IF you don't want a government, you want freedom to express yourself, and that means you have protection, that means you can say what you want without being afraid…that is anarchism OP…you're rich ( you have money/power to protect yourself) so you want no government to mind what you're doing. If you're in a chan, Holla Forums, i bet you're a the kid of some rich people going through college.
On the other hand, you have communism, Communism want a government that can stop people to even become rich…so that means you're poor and you want a government to protect you from rich people…
Either way, just fuck off and/or post some porn. It doesn't matter what you say on Holla Forums…things will be the same no matter what you do…(i am my own shill, funny isn't it?…for me it is. HAHA)

Holla Forums works weird. I think the BO account is copypaste, and I am an account with BO privileged, that isn't a BO? I've asked and never got an answer

sounds breddy disorganized :DD

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It's hilarious that leftypol steals all their memes from regular pol

yeah and when someone frogposts outside of Holla Forums or /r9k/ they are "stealing" their memes
when someone uses terveisin. they are stealing from /int/ or ylilauta
when someone uses the THE CITY OF snowclone they are ""stealing""" from /sp/, when someone uses the london meme they are ""stealing"" from /fit/, etc.

I am not a leftypoltard but this logic is a dumb

kill yourself, fucking faggot

that "uh what nigger" picture is stolen from some other source. You are a poser and a nigger.

back to leftypol or intl or whatever shit board you came from

He's saying that memes organically evolve over time and sometimes jump from board to board. You might want to commit pic related, sport.

There's a difference between natural, spontaneous evolution and making a deliberate attempt to blatantly steal a meme and appropriate it for your own ends. He's saying Holla Forums lacks a natural meme culture and has resorted to ether straight up stealing shit and attempting to redirect it, or pitiful imitation of the swagger of others. It's deformation, not evolution, like a radiation-exposed rat or some comprachico'd circus freak. No wonder the results bear no fruit.

I completely agree, but turning a meme from one board into a meme that promotes their own opinions isn't stealing. They are blatantly saying "fuck you" and mocking Holla Forums by doing this. It's not stealing, it's adaptation of memes.

By relying on stuff like this, Holla Forums is petty as fuck but they still aren't technically stealing memes. A lot of memes have evolved through bouncing around different boards or websites.

It's attempted theft, just theft of concepts. They're attempting to take a meme that was hand-made to suit a political end and uncreatively copy it to promote their ideological leanings. It's trying to redirect the power of someone else's meme for your own ends, without having the creativity to create such a meme in the first place, or to successfully improve on the memes of another. It's like Edison stealing from Tesla, only if Edison tried to make Tesla's inventions run on sewage rather than electricity.

After thinking hard about it, I think OP is mostly right. I wouldn't call the government leading the people slavery. It is oppression, though.

agreed

Holla Forums memes are cringeworthy because they're a comedic black hole. They aren't funny, Holla Forums doesn't create memes, they force propaganda. Holla Forums memes can be appreciated by edgelords while Holla Forums shit it facebook tier for normalfags.

I bet the retard who created the Ben Garrison image has no fucking idea who Ben Garrison even is or why Holla Forums obsesses over him

hes an anti semite

Wew lad I posted it on /vp/ before I posted it here

The reason I am discordian is become I don't believe.

save. I'll trade you.

Kill yourself, autistic hypocrite.

I believe that the government should only lead the people when the government represents the people.

wew lad

You should check my dubs tbh

Not all leftists are statists, dumbass.

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6/10 I half believe you're retarded

who?

Hasta la vista, baby.