Audio

audacity, ma niggaaaaaaaaaz
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suck my dick faggot

Oh god you have no idea. Even though 90% of them do the same thing I still have 100's of Geebees of them.

Porn is exactly the right comparison.

Ableton for anything which requires sound design.

Pro Tools for recording ensembles or if I'm working with stems. It's just better suited for pure audio editing.

Also have Reaper on my laptop, cuz it's free and actually pretty decent.

Have you ever used FL Studio or Cubase? Do you have any opinions on them? Cubase seems to be leading with new audio technology, they designed the VST plugin format after all.

FL Studio was recommended to me by friends who make electronic music.

I pretty much started with Cubase. It's the most generic DAW of them all, and that's not a bad thing. I'd suggest you at least get the demo version, because if you know how to use Cubase, you pretty much know all the DAW, which makes sense since Cubase was this huge revolution in the digital audio world and that for a while every over DAW was basically a derivative of it.

A lot of my producer buddies use Fruity Loops, but I personally can't stand it.
It's more tailored for working with patterns and loops. The entire interface revolves around it. So if you're not making repetitive music like house or trance or whatever, then it's pretty unwieldy imo.
The plus side is that it's pretty cheap and you get free lifetime upgrades, which is neat.

Neat, thanks. I mostly am dicking around at this point I want to explore creating different genres until I find something that I really like.

I am a big fan of psychedelic music like Shpongle, so I wanted to attempt making something in that vein. My ideas for songs are not that repetitive so maybe FL isn't the right choice.

Also do you recommend any VSTs?

well, the typical must have VSTi are NI's Massive, FM8, Kontakt & Battery + Xfer's Serum (which is slowly replacing Massive)

For effects, it depends on what you already have in your DAW and if they're any good.
If not, all the Waves plugins are pretty much the standard in mid to high-end studios.
Of course, if you're insane, you could also try stuff from Universal Audio, but you're gonna need special PCI cards for that.

But there are tons of other amazing plugins out there. I'd suggest you browse KVR Audio and look through their plugin section. They do a pretty good job archiving almost everything audio.

Sugar Bytes, AudioThing and Applied Acoustic Systems are also some noteworthy plugin creators.

I actually do have a PCI sound card that I bought to get stereomix working a few years back. No idea if it's what is required.
It's a HT Omega Striker 7.1.

I'll check out all the plugins you mentioned though. Thanks for all the advice.

ehh nevermind it looks like my soundcard is useless for that.

you can record and edit studio albums performed on real instruments.

you'll still need EQs, Compressors, Gates, Reverbs, etc
Dry recordings sound like shit

Reaper is really good if you want a traditional DAW, I read it works on Linux now which makes it worth using again since I used to use it on Windows years ago.

There's also renoise if you're into trackers.

>windowscucks are buying hardware just to record sound output from their computer
my fucking sides

That was when I still used windows as my primary desktop OS, and also I was a lot more ignorant of technology back then.

Question to Jack users here, anyone here using special kernel just to get optimum low latency when recording? I forgot that kernel name tbh.

oh wow.
you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

Those PCI cards we were talking about weren't for audio recording, but sound processing. Universal Audio makes analog emulation software which eats up resources like a motherfucker. Sure, your could use them without their special cards, but your PC will lag li,k,e a bitch after using only one or two compressors. I'm serious. It's THAT resource intensive.

Do your research before you talk shit, niggerfaggot.

Which part of
do you have difficulty understanding?

Oh. You meant that part. I thought you just meant audio PCI cards in general.
Well yeah, then you're right. sry

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those are still external plugins.
what's your point?

Weak.

Renoise, but that comes from the fact that I'm used to shit like Fasttracker

either Rosegarden or Ardour, but that doesn't matter when Linux's audio stack is worse than Polio

and if i'm feeling like a lazy piece of shit, i'll just record a potato-quality slow jam in Audacity

Eh if you actually set up Ardour to use JACK then the audio stack is just fine.

Trying to keep alsa or pulse in the mix and then shit gets really fucky.

oh fuck right off

when I go and use a DAW, I actually want to make music, not dig through ancient posts on linuxquestions to find out where to just change several config files because the audio interface I use is outdated by an entire decade

Renoise works really well on Linux. But without good plugins I always end up dual booting when I want to make music.

Talking about audio, do any of you use jack with some plugins for normal use? I'm using carla with some equalizers, but it's not ideal... seems "normal pc use" isn't considered with most of these programs. Like they can rarely be minimized into systray and stuff.

if you're making music on a mac it's probably shit music

Nigger have you ever been in a studio? Routing and patching is half your job, JACK is not complicated by any standards and your inb4 is retarded as it's literally the normie friendly solution.

OSX can be considered a Darwin distro, your points are shit.

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that's a pretty wide brush right there m8

where was that even implied in my post? do the majority of linux distros have an audio solution that's as viable as CoreAudio?

because fucking around with Patchage is wonderful solution to everything amirite
shit like that was exactly why I went out to a nearby music store and bought a hardware multitracker: less convoluted garbage in the way of putting a ground layer to songs
(related reading: menga.net/is-the-daw-doomed)

no, I'm not going to bother pay $700+ every time I go to one

ok, here's the even shittier cat-v version just for you then

I'm the last to say audio in linux is fine but that image is absolutely misleading.

Your pic, showing how easy it was to get sound running on OSX.

If you stick to Ubuntu Studio the steps are about the same.

The vast majority of linux distros do not deal with sound engineering, you can't expect them to all deal with low latency sound without additional work.

There's a reason for different distros to exist beyond a default DE.

You have something like Patchage with any professional level solution.

I will agree that DAWs are difficult and your link does have merit but the rest is BS.

Yes sound is shit when talking about Linux in general, that's why they made things like Ubuntu Studio so the shitness is removed.

Ardour is a perfectly capable professional solution, JACK is a great compliment.

It feels like you're trying to put a square peg in a round hole.

That article is ridiculous. If people are honestly using DAWs just to record demo tracks then I don't know any more. It's like using emacs to keep a todo list.

Can we get some competition please?

well, Bitwig is definitely trying to beat Ableton, which makes sense since they're ex-Ableton devs

>including KDE 3 and GNOME 1 sound layers next to the likes of pulseaudio and bluez
Exactly the sort of technical competence one would expect from an Adobe developer.

You can draw equally bullshit graphs for Windows/MacOS if you include Win9x/XP and OS9 too.

might as well ask it here.

what's the difference between MME, DirectX audio and ASIO on Windows?

Don't use any other OS, but I'm sure there's an equivalent to that on every OS

So you can sound like Metallica in their shit years? What a great idea!
youtube.com/watch?v=PC0QjvKMO14

you're the most retarded person in the universe. which DAW you use doesn't affect how shit you're at mixing and mastering. and literally EVERYTHING noteworthy in the past 10 years has at least been mastered through Protools.
yes. even your shitty hypster prog-rock whatever band you're into.

Anyone running Reaper in wine had tried using the Plogue Alter Ego VST?

I have trouble loading the Daisy voicebank.

I used this method but it still won't find the Daisy bank:
plogue.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=7492&p=40201&hilit=linux#p40201

My path to Daisy bank is C:/2400-Daisy and I set it this way in the registry
I've tried before with Z:/home/user/daisy and it also didn't work

The VST selection in Ableton Live is superb. The design and layout of Reaper is much better. I usually rewire Ableton through Reaper. This gives me Reaper control with all the cool Ableton VST selections.