Firefox 48 to ship with electrolysis multi-process

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Only took them what, 7 years? To make an implementation of it that STILL isn't complete even with this update. This update won't make it 1 process per tab. They claim process per tab will be complete by the end of 2016. So sometime in 2025 most likely

You'd need a computer from 2025 to have the resources to run 1 process per tab.

Firecuck will never even be stable. I doubt *any* web browser will, but I question whether the people behind firefox are even real programmers. Today i got a bug where it opens the download window twice. Closed them immediately because doing anything in an invalid state like that may be risky. In fact, firefox never even implemented file downloading properly. Downloads often get stuck at 500KB/s for 10 hours despite not a single byte being is received. And the downloader never tells you whether the download failed. It will just leave a truncated file on your computer and you find out later when you try to use it. Sure i could use a plugin instead of the builtin shit that's broken as fuck.

The other day I kept getting this bullshit where you click a link, which would open in a new tab, but before it finishes opening the new tab, you changed to a different tab, and then it opens the new shit in that tab. Basic shit like this has been broken for as long as I can remember.

Works fine on Chrome except for autists that insist on having 100 tabs open at once. I don't use Chrome, but it seems to work fine for the millions of people that do.

Chrome isn't exactly 1 process per tab.

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Speak for yourself, never had any major issues on my machines and I've never run into any of the issues you describe

Once firefox gets multiprocess and servo and sandboxing I might actually switch to it.

its called an edge case for a reas... nvm

baito 2 desu the bait continues

oh look my 2 core cpu is running 60 processes, is such thing even possible?
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Then why are you here?

Okay. How about this: compared to the way Chrome does multi-process, which is who Mozilla is imitating, this implementation is incomplete as it isn't separating things to the extent Chrome does which means this update doesn't solve many of the problems that multi-process solves in Chrome. Firefox will still be far behind Chrome in implementation until the end of 2016(likely the end of 2025 at Mozilla's pace) Better?

K

Doesn't Chrome lock up at around 10+ tabs, even if you have an extension and the resources to handle those processes? Because doesn't it also make plugins a process too? And it's sandboxer?

Truly this is the future.

nigger I know people who regularly use 1000+ tabs

Now that's what I call addiction to shitposting.

Only noscript isn't E10 ready from my important addon list. Firebug and uo is supposed to be ok.

FF legacy code is the largest among the browsers. It makes it best as worst in the same in a way. Chrome will be shit in 2025 thanks to they implement everything fast but still isn't enough modular to make a proper fork (ie palememe).

feels good to be using the best browser that also respects my freedom

I like how you didn't mention which browser that is. Gives your bait a whole new angle.

its FF you buffoon

umatrix, nigga. Even replaced cookie and request policy stuff.

the first is not compatible with the other two.

go back to le reddit

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go back to irc

Things are looking up for Firefuck, hopefully they will stop fucking around with extensions and shit like that.

ghacks.net/2016/06/09/why-firefox-will-continue-to-lose-market-share/

Okay, friend. Please tell me another major FOSS browser, that follows the four freedoms, and respects your privacy.It can't be "some faggot in his basement, with his buddies, made this really good fork." I'm talking about a full browser, from a major company, with a rendering engine that isn't Blink or Gecko.

I'll wait

No, it doesn't. Try actually using it once in a while instead of meme browser X because you're paranoid.

I didn't imply that existed.

My problem was that someone said disliking Firefox implied liking Chrome. I'm sure you agree that there are people who hate Firefox and Chrome at the same time.

If you have to, at least use Iridium. Either way, fuck off back to Plebbit

I don't think it has as much to do with legacy code as that Mozilla is just full of incompetent SJWs and are willing to waste $15k to replace every instance of the word slave in their code base instead of spending that money on doing things that aren't completely useless. Same reason servo is nowhere near ready and probably never will be anywhere near ready before Mozilla dies.

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Well, i would love to use Firefox again, but only when they offer again a such complex built inside feature set like available in Firefox 22.

A lot of users also moved on because Mozilla removed that features and demands now to install add-ons to get them back. They do that for being attractive to Chrome users and try to remove all built inside customization options which could get in the way of such users.

That brings up another point. I also only would use Firefox again if they stop their new found mindset that they HAVE to compete with Chrome to survive. It is interesting, Chrome has the most market share and now all other developers run around in circle and do everything to get a big chunk of Chrome users too. The thing is, Firefox had a pretty good run in the past before Australis without bowing down to the demands of Chrome users and Mozilla focusing on Chrome as main competitor, this change of plans also alienated a lot of users.

So, if Mozilla would change that 2 critical points, i could think about using Firefox again, but not earlier.

Is there any solution to Firefox using fuck tons of memory, it happens when Youtube is playing?

that isn't firefox, that's the malbloatware known as flash.

Thanks, any fixes?

Remove flash botnet. Any site that isn't complete shit uses html5 already

removing flash like kebab

I hate how when you save an image that has already loaded you redownload the image.

removed flash but youtube is still shooting memory through the roof. only got to about 2 mins into a random video to test and was at %94 memory usage

Firefox comes from a 22-year old enormous codebase. Software wasn't designed for concurrency in the 90's, raw Moore's Law poer was at its peak.


wrong. processes need not exist concurrently to be processes. Any multi-tasking operating system from the last 50 years uses processes


enter about:about in the URL bar and take a look at about:cache, about:memory, about:healthreport and other interesting things

Has anyone developed a version of Chrome without the botnet?

iridiumbrowser.de/

You're rigging this from the start. Why does a browser need to be made by a major company in order to matter? By this one factor alone, you exclude almost every browser on the market except for IE, Chrome, Safari, Firefox, and maybe Opera.

Ignoring that retarded and pointless requirement, there are plenty of FOSS browsers that don't run Blink or Gecko. Midori, Otter, Qupzilla, Konquerer, Rekonq, a tonne of minimalist keyboard-driven browsers such as Qutebrowser or uzbl, and the various terminal based browsers such as Links or Lynx.

turning off hardware acceleration did the trick, everything has been stable since.

Why would anybody use SJWfox?

I love qutebrowser. Soon it will replace Firefox as my main browser. Every time I update Firefox vimperator is broken for at least a few hours, so I switch to qutebrowser to maintain browsing efficiency. For now it is my backup browser, but the more it is developed and the more Mozilla pisses me off the easier it will be to switch.

Qupzilla is by far the best imo. I really hope they can get vertical tabs and some other essential features added so I can finally ditch this piece of bloated firefucks crap

Doesn't matter anyway, if you try and load more than 10 tabs in Chrome, the UI starts shrinking them so much that the entire browser becomes unusable. This is an issue, in particular, when I'm browsing porn, and opening up a little shy of a hundred gelbooru and halfchan /d/ images to be saved when I'm done, since you can't navigate at all. I can't really even frequent an imageboard with Chrome either. Opening up each interesting thread in its own tab causes each tab to be illegible after about five threads. I was using it the other day, so I can tell you this definitively.

Chrome is really "We want the Facebook and Reddit audience": The Browser. Which is great if you only browse Facebook and Reddit. Millions do. Fucking plebs.

Needs vim bindings

Is there a random user-agent switcher a-la Random Agent Spoofer for Qupzilla?

Also is there a way to spoof time-zone and window size? I don't need this randomized really, but it'd be nice if it were possible.

how new are you?

These are the only extensions I see. I don't use qupzilla so I dunno if you can get more, but I don't see any links or anything in here to get more. I was just checking to see if it's better than qutebrowser in any way. And it isn't for me.

You need more screens man.

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what would be the correct way?

reddit pls go

get ahoviewer

thanks man

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FUCK ALL OF YOU THE FUTURE BELONGS TO THE AUTISTS AUTISTS UNITE! IF YOU USE ANYTHING OTHER THAN LYNX / LINKS / OR FUCKING EMACS YOU ARE A PATHETIC STREETSHITTING CUCKOLD WHO NEEDS TO GITGUD. GITFUCKED.

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I find it funny that people always complain that Mozilla is "copying Chrome", but never try to understand WHY they are forced to do so.

That comment is really great.

Because FireFox receives millions of dollars per year in donatiosn and ad revenue, like Chrome and Safari. This allows them to potentially hire the best programmers, and provide the (arguably) best user experience. I personally don't want to use a small-time browser, made by a small company, that can't be patched in time, or the company goes out of business. The fact of the matter is that browser upkeep costs money, and it's difficult for a small company (Otter, Midori, Qupzilla) to compete.

Also, a lot of what you have listed is Web-Kit based shit. We all know Blink is the best engine, but it's Google cancer shit, so that leaves Gecko. Presto was my favorite engine of all time, even above Gecko, and it's gone now.

How will e10s affect me who has around 200 to 300 tabs (most are unloaded)?