Counterargument

One of my close friends started posting shit tons of left propaganda like this. Can you please give me a great counterargument to this? I ask because maybe someone has encountered this before and has ammunition.

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business.time.com/2012/11/08/why-suicides-are-more-common-in-richer-neighborhoods/
google.com/maps/place/Jackson County, KY/@37.4676262,-84.1434078,10.65z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x884317d9df78ac25:0xc3a0ed5f535c783e!8m2!3d37.4023274!4d-84.0167423
mises.org/blog/california-and-new-york-are-poorer-you-think
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it's just so stupid though

I thought poverty was fought by the federal government, not by whichever political party controls the county. If you turn his argument around 97 % of the poorest counties have voted Republican which means the left is apparently doing something wrong when it comes to providing welfare and help for the poor.

Blame Obama for not fighting poverty and instead focusing on mentally ill degenrates who want their special place in a toilet.

Notice how it focuses on the counties, not people.
Most of those counties are rural and extremely population sparse so of course there's less material wealth in those areas, partly by the law of small numbers but also because of the land usage. Most of these counties are farmland; much of our nation is farmland. Of course these locations are going to be poorer on average.

If you went and looked at population statistics however, person by person, you would see a much different picture. That pic is a completely disingenuous assertion implying one thing but stating another.

That pic is true, OP but things might change under Trump.

I'd suggest you find a new friend.

Those counties are probably poor because their jobs have been shipped overeas and mines etc. are closed due to overregulation.

learn2rhetoric m8

lol, i bet they are niggers who vote democrat in places like mississippi and lousiana. liberals always try to use the massive nigger population in southern states to back up their shit arguments.

Furthermore you can just turn it around on them. If these red states are so poor, then why are they voting republican? Why do you think you know better than they do? It seems backwards to think they would continue to vote for the party if it kept screwing them over.

It just goes to show how arrogant the fuckers are when they want to play fast and loose with other people's money, even though they're not the ones who are poor.

Niggers.

Yes. They not only use these counties for wealth, but also for education level, obesity rates, and pornographic preferences.

The Daily Shoah has talked about this a few times. It's just another way for yankees to browbeat the south.

They think the south is a few black people scared around almost entirely white KKK republicans.

Post smug Hitler pic and proceed to redpilling your friend.

Your friend is right. Give up. Republican states are poor beaucoup Republicans do very poorly.

You are wrong, just give up.

You cant argue against it without being called racist.

If you tell him poor folks vote republican because they live around poor blacks(read: all blacks), and have to deal with the crime rate, he'll just call you a racist and be done with it.

This is the real reason all of those counties are poor (and most obese, incidentally). If all blacks were removed from Mississippi, the poorest state in the country on average, it would suddenly become one of the wealthiest.

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It depends, are you seeking to have a rational debate with your friend or to convince him of your point of view?

Unless he defines "poor," he's being a huge retard about the meanings and cause of wages and costs of living.

Poor people know very well that family values are more important than money, rich people quicky forget about that and then they drink bleach.

business.time.com/2012/11/08/why-suicides-are-more-common-in-richer-neighborhoods/

Just to make one step clearer:

Infrastructural costs are astonishingly smaller in smaller places, and so less income needs to be dumped into government programs (education, police, detention centers, road maintenance, etc.), and so the cost of living drops astonishingly as well.

Voting blue won't make those "poor" red counties "rich."

Just to make one step clearer:

Infrastructural costs are astonishingly smaller in smaller places, and so less income needs to be dumped into government programs (education, police, detention centers, road maintenance, etc.), and so the cost of living drops astonishingly as well.

Voting blue won't make those "poor" red counties "rich."

Logic is more important. Rhetoric should only be used when the other person won't listen to reason, and even then only to convince them to listen to reason, or if they have too few common assumptions with you.

Also:

This thread is with a few exceptions majorly retarded.

is not an argument.

Cities voting blue + Standard of living being expensive in cities = Haha everyone who doesnt live in a city (people who vote red) is poor

When in reality your dollar is worth more in red states like Kentucky

Quit it.

This is always a joy to bring up when someone claims that the redstate South is the biggest sink of welfare money in the nation, as if to imply conservative blue collar whites are to blame. The reactions are priceless when you produce this demographic map and they realize they're actually attacking their pet blacks.

Say "look at the demographics".

A state being "red" does not mean it does not have a huge proportion of imbecilic negroids of no economic value.

Wait, Montana is almost nigger free ? What about the sandnigger population ? Gun laws are pretty based according to jewpedia, it would be a cool place to form a white community.

(((Politifact))) rated this meme - or rather, a county-focused offshoot thereof - 'Mostly True' but let's take a closer look.

The 10 poorest counties were in:

The highest poverty rates were, in order, seen in:
Counties marked with * appear in both lists

Let's take a look at the demographics of those that appear on both lists.

Population: ~7,300
Area: ~220 sq. miles
Demographically: 99% white, non-Hispanic

Here, its an issue of proportionality - which, as usual, leftists cannot comprehend.

The average population of a US county in 2012 was 100,000.

Los Angeles county had a population of ~10 million.
Of that, the following proportions of the population lived below the poverty line:

To put this in context: There were more Native Americans living under the poverty limit than there are people in Wolfe County, Kentucky, but because they are such a tiny proportion of the population, they don't make as much of an impact as just a few hundred people might in a rural county with a population of less than 1/10th the average population of a US county.

Next up…

Population: ~19,000
Area: ~760 sq. miles
Demographically: ~83% black, ~15% white, non-Hispanic

That should speak for itself - a predominantly black area, in a state which is otherwise "Red".
Worthy of mention:

IOW: The poorest people in the state are the ones voting Democrat by a margin of more than 4:1.

Next up…

Population: ~3,476
Area: ~4,500 sq. miles
Demographically: ~78% "white"… wait for it… ~80% Hispanic/Latino

Mmhmm.

This is a combination of the two factors above: absence of understanding of proportionality (rural area coupled with very-low population density) and context denial (racial demographics).

… If you really want to combat these weak-sauce maymays your friend is shilling, I would advise you to do some research and make some counter-memes.

I've given you the seeds to do exactly that, given that analysis in this vein is likely all you need, and you may even be able to find it already-prepared elsewhere.

Just point out how many places have been fucked up by black people voting for democrat gibs.

Sensiblechuckle.jpg

I'm actually kinda trying to kill some time, so let's do the rest as well.

Population: ~4,700
Area: ~200 sq. miles
Demographically: ~99% white

Small, rural community in former-coal territory.

Population: ~18,000
Area: ~430 sq. miles
Demographically: ~97% white

See above.
Also of note:
Well fancy that.

Population: ~13,000
Area: ~347 sq. miles
Demographically: ~99% white

> google.com/maps/place/Jackson County, KY/@37.4676262,-84.1434078,10.65z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x884317d9df78ac25:0xc3a0ed5f535c783e!8m2!3d37.4023274!4d-84.0167423
Hmmm.

Population: ~21,000
Area: ~470 sq. miles
Demographically: ~94% white

Another low-population, rural area.
Noteworthy:

Population: ~7,700
Area: ~527 sq. miles
Demographically: ~85% black, ~14% white

Welp.
Noteworthy:

Population: ~9,400
Area: ~431 sq. miles
Demographically: ~75% black, ~24% white

Seeing a trend forming here.
Noteworthy:
Kek.

Population: ~7,200
Area: ~944 sq. miles
Demographically: ~90% white… wait for it… ~91% Hispanic/Latino

Definitely seeing some trends forming here.

Population: ~6,800
Area: ~223 sq. miles
Demographically: ~98% white

Noteworthy:

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

Population: ~14,300
Area: ~2,000 sq. miles
Demographically: ~94% Native American, ~5% white

Mmhmm.

Population: ~10,000
Area: ~1,400 sq. miles
Demographically: ~88% Native American, 10% white

More trendlines forming.

Population: ~4,100
Area: ~2,500 sq. miles
Demographically: ~67% Native American, 30% white

Native majority AND 1.6/sq. mile population density?

C-C-C-COMBO!

Population: ~3,200
Area: ~217 sq. miles
Demographically: ~60% black, 38% white

Eyup.
I'm sure those people are big Republican voters… Well, actually, the whites probably are… Poor bastards.

Population: ~7,800
Area: ~442 sq. miles
Demographically: ~69% black, 29% white

As expected.
Again, I'm sure the black population is rife with Republican voters holding legitimate conservative values.
I bet they all voted for Mitt Romney tb fam.

Population: ~4,300
Area: ~1,128 sq. miles
Demographically: ~84% Native American, 13% white

Eesh.

So, yeah, I'd say that paints a pretty clear picture as regards this may-may your friend posted.

It may well be true, but it relies on implicity falsehoods, namely:
and

By all means, assuming you aren't a shitposting fagyot, feel free to inform me/us as to his/her response upon confrontation with this information.

Christ man…
You win all the nets.

As a former Georgia boy who played football against Randolph-Clay, I can tell you, without a shadow of a doubt, that Clay County is an absolute hellhole. Riots and drug deals gone bad all the time. Every black family is on welfare, all the White families are trying to move out or have become wiggers.

GLR would have a stroke if he saw this abomination

Checked, lad.

OP, maybe you wanna redo this so that there aren't any (You)s.

That's a Damn good way to make everyone but rich people and smug liberals who think they're not poor hate your fucking ass. I mean if anything he's probably helping us, but poor people will remember that when they are leading the revolution.

Does that mean that Republicans are oppressed?

Good catch user

Oops, missed one.

He's purporting that conservatism causes poverty (which is not the case). Additionally, he's playing with numbers, as there are more PEOPLE in poverty that are democrats than republicans (inner-cities).

Lastly, those conservatives are against policies that furthers their poverty, hence them going towards conservatism.

Our race problem is different, instead of American Negros we have the American injun for our crime population.

You mean niggers spic and injun infested areas are poor? Imagine that! Must be because of those White Republican cis het shitlords

Your shooping skills are weak. The gap between the name and date is unnatural and makes it apparent that something there was "erased". You should slide the rest of the text to the right over towards the name so that it looks like the (You) tag never existed to begin with.

I might have done it myself, but you posted a jpg, so I won't bother. Good work otherwise though, I'm saving this.

the correct response goes like this:

the logistics go like this: dependency covers up poverty, it doesn't force it to reveal and address itself. if you're on the dole, you're still poor, only now you have no idea how poor, and you're forced into being a lying debt prostitute.

GoP has the highest educated as well…

Pffft, nigger, I wish.

That's MSPaint skills.

And I don't care that there's a gap, as most normies won't know any better - the 'You' was too obvious though, could cause some grief for shitposters.


Exactly.

Its fucking disgusting how these liberal twits will try to defend this shit, (((politifact))) being a prime example.

It's only rich sheltered liberals who vote for massive gibs, open borders etc - they're rich enough that the cost it has on the nation and increased taxes will hardly affect them, so they can easily throw the country under the bus for the sake of feeling morally superior by voting for massive gibs.

People with less money (those "poor counties") actually have to vote responsibly, and thus vote republican.

It's a chicken and egg matter. I'd say the county being poor causes its people to vote responsibly. They'd say the county voting red causes it to be poor. The wealth of a county is hardly determined by what state leaders get elected there though - mostly it's decided by the amount of resources and tourism that county/state has.

(Checked)

Christ. This is a classic example of pic related. No wonder neo-libs took over so easily.

Propose that they're not poor because they're Republicans, but rather that they're Republicans because they're poor. Use this to claim that the ones who actually look out for the poor are on the right rather than the left.

alternatively, this guy makes a good point too

After you adjust for cost of living, California and New York have some of the highest poverty rates in the nation which are major outliers because of the high population density, and many red southwestern, midwest, and southern states have lower poverty rates after adjusting for cost of living, and the poverty rate between red and blue states have almost no difference. It is statistical manipulation and obfuscation.

mises.org/blog/california-and-new-york-are-poorer-you-think

That pic is retarded, it implies voting Democrat would magically improve their wealth

The left is a paradox.


Oh right, it's only poor blacks and mexicans that they care about, and they only care about them as pawns to bring in more communist policies.

That image reeks of a Soros operation

Ask for the names of the counties, I am sure most have high nigger concentrations.

Republicans are generally shit, though. Why should you care about defending them?

As it has already been said above, the image implies that voting for a democratic candidate would somehow magically make money fall into the hands of all these republican voting poor people

Dear nigger, I am going to assume you are not a shill.

Dubya pushed my shit in with deployments and the VA.
Obama wrote bills without funding or support for veterans and veterans education.

Show me a redpilled democrat.
Show me a non globalist democrat.

The goal is to remove cuckservatives, globalists, RINOs and traitors from the Republican party or get a new party started.

If you say "Mu Ron Paul" you will receive a filter as you are an obvious newfriendo summer-fagarino

Honestly user you're not ready for 8/pol/ if you can't figure out a way around this bs on your own.

It's shit-tier propaganda that appeals to people's emotions and even then it doesn't do that well not to mention it's just plain disingenuous as explained

Also your friend is a faggot.

It's summer fag time user.

We all have to start somewhere. We don't have to spoonfeed, but we can't send everyone back to Plebbit.

If anything that user's breakdown of counties and logicial analysis was refreshing.

Just yesterday alone I had to defend Trump bankruptcies for the upteenth time due some Hillary shills working over time on Facebook reinfecting some of my loved ones.

Redirecting attacks on my power level after seeing Tulip racewashed in "Preacher", David Schwimmer with a half black son in some other show, and 5-10 mixed race couple commercials - all predominantly promoting niggers as humans.

Why just blacks and whites? No Hispanics or Asians? Parry Parry, Defense, Redirect.

Spreading news of BLM Dindu Niffun leader pimping out an underage white girl, focusing on the joke, "He said he didn't do nothing, he thought she was 20, it's the fault of racist internet trolls - oh, he was recently invited to the Whitehouse" "How well are they vetting Syrians and Central American economic illegal immigrants"?

It's a daily battle, and if you can't find ways to fight back, defend, or stay sane, it's a long, lonely, tough road.

im too scared to talk politics on faceberg, im already suspicious of being put on a watch list for buying a bunch of nat soc books including mein kampf. Its really annoying too, i have a smug pseudo intellectual friend who posts banal anti-trump propaganda all over faceberg, 6 month old hit pieces and all, winning the war among my asian peon friends, shit sucks, i wish i had more white friends they get trump, ausfag fyi.

And how come i cant post using a vpn on this site anymore? it just endlessly forces me to authenticate without letting me post, really fucking annoying, theres alot i wanna say on here but i dare not to because of three letter agencies without a vpn.

This is a culture war. Converting normies and purple pilled people and educating the willing newly redpilled should be a top priority. This isn't Holla Forums or /g/ or whatever where we just reject everyone ad tell them to git gud first. Obviously this has a limit as shills use this to distract us from other things, but we can't just become an insulated community.

Facebook comment arguments ARE pointless time wasters.