What do the ideal borders of Europe look like?

What do the ideal borders of Europe look like?

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split the frogs between iberia and germany and nuke italy to prevent the pizza menace from spreading

I agree that the French are pretty bad, but what's wrong with the Italians?

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I love the EU tbh

Kys

Hitler would have wanted Pan-European superstate too m8.

same comrad.

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Why the fuck would you give Spain to Liberia. You just put Muslims in Europe.

You're a fucking idiot.

Why just Europe?

this was a kind of a thought experiment into what would have happened if the Crusades were successful

will need turkey to be added in

so the world would have ended up pretty much exactly like it did in the real 19th century?

seems unlikely

> poland stronk

UK will never leave.

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that's why I said 'pretty much'

read the spoiler new friend

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What the fuck is this garbage?

Blue is Europe.
Red is Russia.
Grey is a DMZ wasteland.
Brown are the United States of Muhammad.
Black is Africa.

Why would that be the ideal Europe?

Because everyone can STFU then.

why do you say that?
a majority want it and the referendum decided it.
how, after that, can the uk not leave the eu?

Russia still couldn't take Finland, and everyone knows it.

finland was part of the russian empire up to 20th centuary

Just the same only they all say British 'whatever'.

Could go on but got bored of saying all this shit

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what do the colors mean tho

that yellow country is fucked if anyone declares war on them

spread all over the edges of Europe like that, they'd need the greatest navy in the world

Turkey will never get in the EU, it's just a stupid meme. Basically the EU and Turkey tolerate each other and cut deals all the time and some funny fucker threw in the chance for ascendancy in one of the deals decades ago.

Red - The Germanopolishczechlolithuani-belarusian Republic:

A federal democratic republic that prides itself on being really similar to the USA, but with more Japanese culture.

Blue - The Confederation of the South:

A secessionist group of states that decided to leave the Republic and become their own independent body. They hate the idea of Yugoslavia and fucked up the borders so bad that it could never exist again.

Yellow - The RYFTA (Random Yellow Free Trade Association):

They love commerce, and hate commies. They have a big trade fleet of colossal ships with cities on top, travelling between Crimea and Bornholm.

Grey - Socialismism:

A big, communist country. 100 years ago, they accidentally conquered Valencia when they were taking over land near the Pyrenees. They hate the RYFTA.

Orange - Basques in the Woods:

They used to be part of Socialismism, but seceded because they wanted to live in the trees and be more in-tune with nature.

Green - The Green Empire:

A big, Fascist Empire ruled by Gary, a ruthless dictator. They conquer all in sight; luckily for other nations, they suffer from a severe epidemic of myopia, so they don't see much to conquer.

Pink - East Hungary:

They gave everything west of the Danube (represented by a black line, because I suck at euro geography) to the Republic, because they don't care for West Hungary at all.

Purple - Latvia:

It's literally just Latvia.

White:

A bunch of boring countries like Læso, The Rest of Spain, Austria-Slovakia, Ukraine, Anatolia, Morocco, Kosovo, and Carthage.

Yeah, they are pretty much a federation of naval powers who organized trade via a gigantic fleet. Each individual territory can for the most part hold their own against invasion, but their real power is at sea.

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Iberia you moron. That's what their peninsula is called. The Iberian Peninsula

It's Scandinavia. Invading them presents many of the same problems as invading Russia; it's cold as shit. That and they have a history of being tough motherfuckers.

Is that EU3?

Wait nvm I thought you meant the OP image

its an EU3 map yeah

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why does everyone have such a hard on for Germany?

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mainly because they're the only ones who tried to eliminate the jews instead of passing the problem to somebody else

Because Stormfags

Stop believing Jewish lies.

Because the borders of Imperial Germany are very pretty, that's why Poland should give them their clay back.

The shoah happened, and we enjoyed every minute of it. Of course it wasn't anything like the jewish historians say

It wasn't a lie. Those Jews got gassed, and the only thing Hitler did wrong was he didn't finish the job

Whatever you say Schlomo

What should happen:
1. The British Isles should unite into a secular republic. This includes Ireland. Abolish Christianity and remove kebab.

2. Restore Germany to 1918 borders.

3. Restore Hungary.

4. Merge Poland, Belarus, and Ukraine into Russia.

5. Split the Balkans between Greece and Serbia for the most part. Emperor Trump will annex Slovenia for the benefit of the Empress.

What will happen:
1. Islamic State in Europe, triple capital cities of London, Paris, and Berlin.

2. Non-muslims flee to Russia.

3. World War 3: Russia vs Islamic Europe

Europe is pretty much killing itself with all of these refugees. Where will it end?

Okay, here's the idea behind this offering:

What if King Kanute's north sea Empire had been consolidated by his heirs? What could the world look like into modern times with this twist?

In this Europe, the British Isles, the kingdom of Norway, and the vassal states of Normandy, Friesland and other related territories remain in the consolidated North Sea Empire.
Moving east, a unified Slav nation based around Kyiv could perhaps form, distraught at the loss of the Pentarchy (Byzantium) an Orthodox church crusade recaptured much of the Muslim held territories in Europe, including the proudly restored Constantinople. From this position of strengh, little could stop the march east all the way to the pacific.
In the lighter red we see a United kingdoms of Poland and Lithuania, through mutual strengh their lands and position in Europe was assured into modern times.
South we see the Venetian trade league in purple, in reality this would be a collection of city states, minor kingdoms and duchies, secure from rivals by trade agreements, with Venice at the centre of the web.
Elsewhere in Italy the Papal States retained its position and strengthened, dominating it's poorer rivals in the abscence of powerful allies abroad.
In central Europe, the Holy Roman Empire remains, Germany thus far not formed as a nation, and the ambitions of Austria, Bohemia and others restrained by a more robust Empire.
France still retains it's might, but without certain familiar territories in the north and west. Rivalries with Spain, the Holy Roman Empire, and of course the North Sea Empire see France fail to fully spread it's wings stuck between so much might.
Spain and Portugal are largely unaffected…