LETS STEAL THE HOLOCAUST

Jewish bolshevik communism led to the deaths of 50-60 million Eastern European whites.

There's also the black plague that wiped out anywhere from 1/3 to 1/2 of all of Europe's medieval population.

We've had plenty of shoahs inflicted on us already. No need to lie.

Nah, I say we keep 'white genocide' because

We could make up a story about white people getting drowned by Jews in water chambers located at Area 51.

I can see it now, front page of every newspaper after the press is taken from the Jews

AREA 51 DROWNINGS! WHITE GENOCIDE!

Also I made it say "drowned to death" on purpose for the keks

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I support this tactic. The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of The White Patriarchy when?

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Expulsion.

Which also implies they have to go back.

Here's something you don't seem to get: In order to fight back against "white holocaust" the jews will have to DENY IT!
Can you imagine endless piles of liberals having to publically deny the Holocaust? And every single time they'll have to say "but oh the REAL Holocaust really happened!"

Then we can pretend to misunderstand people anytime anyone mentions the Holocaust and act like they're supporting our cause, and then take their denials and turn them into jewish Holocaust denial! We might even be able to get people thrown into prison in Europe for denying our Holocaust!

The only effective tactic is to just never use the word Holocaust again, which the jews simply CANNOT afford to do!

Either we outright steal their shoah, or we pollute the name so much no one can use it anymore!

Well, normies don't give a shit about those things. 50 to 60 million people died to communism? Huhn, what? What were you talking about? Oh, that's sad. So, what's for lunch? They don't give a fuck. They are never going to give a fuck.
Holocaust is like a magical emotion button that sends people into cataplexy. That's why you can use this shit, because this shit is proven to work.
The effect of the Holocaust was to make western civilization cut off its balls and stop acting in its own rational self interest because it sees itself as the inhuman irrational bully villain caricature, and that's because they put themselves in the role of the oppressors. You can turn that narrative around by putting themselves into the role of the oppressed, as the people who have to do everything to survive.
You can pervert the whole system to work in our best interests.You just need to change what role white people see themselves in. You solve the problem of white people acting in their own self interest again, everything else will eventually fall in line. That's the important point.
And it fits. White privilege just essentially says white people are to blame for everything, and the solution is that white people have to stop existing.
It's easy to show the parallels.
Nothing can convince a true cuck, but even a very liberal person could see the very disturbing parallels between the holocaust narrative and that jews are a universal problem, and the fact that our sjw colleges teach that white people are a universal problem and the only solution is to get rid of white people.

b-but jews would never poison any water supply, t-that's just an antisemitic canard!

Well let's look at the legal definition of genocide, kindly provided by the UN: www.un.org/ar/preventgenocide/adviser/pdf/osapg_analysis_framework.pdf

Genocide is defined in Article 2 of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (1948) as:
Not there yet fortunately, albeit people already call for it.
- sex reassignment surgery, aka castration is encouraged;
- constant painting of whites as "evil";
- recurrent anti-white crimes;
- destruction of borders;
- mass unrestricted immigration by people of a different race;
- huge economic impact of the above;
- war on the values that helped build societies and maintain their existence;
- loss of testosterone and fertility caused by chemicals in food, clothing, cosmetics, household items;
- economic framework making it hard to start a family and raise it appropriately, hence reducing fertility;
- encouragement of interbreeding, opposing it is "racist";
Not there yet.

Oh, here's some extra detail to help ''"determine whether there
may be a risk of genocide in a given situation"''.

1. Inter-group relations, including record of discrimination and/or other human rights violations committed against a group

- niggers and arabs tend to hate whites;
- whites hating on other whites;
- existing conflict over land, with foreigners now claiming it as theirs just because their parents came there 50 years ago;
- existing conflict over power, as foreigners now get into politics, only to defend their share and their own, while white politicians at least have the decency to fuck everyone in the ass equally;
- existing conflict over security, whites frequently targeted in a variety of crimes;
- existing conflict over expression of group identity, because according to many "Europe isn't white and has never been", which affects both language as most foreigners don't speak the national language and apparently shouldn't have to, religion seeing how Christianism is to be made fun of and perceived as archaic while you can't touch Islam, and culture because it's shit on on a regular basis, defending it making you "intolerant of other cultures", pursuing it "excluding of other ethnic groups", while shouting "ongo bongo" and hitting drums si clearly "the way to go";

- everything "too white" is to be reduced, and essentially the big white cake is to be split in equal slices for everyone, and once whites finally get their slice, it's deem "too white" and split once more, until all that remains is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction, with a completely skewed ratio, but people suck at math- this affects social activities, positions of power, and employment in State institution and key professions;
- "anti-white racism" doesn't exist in most countries, racism crimes are punished more heavily, any white-on-color crime is considered racist by default;
- whites are "priviledged", so others should get more help;
- illegal immigrants getting more help from governments and private associations than poor nationals do;
- no particular anti-white genocide;
- slavery, holocaust… whites are seen as being guilty of everything bad that ever happened in the world, and therefore should be genocided, even though slavery was mostly run by niggers, and the holocaust is one big joke, and while jews certainly were poorly treated, it was only a consequence of them being evil scheming fucks that Hitler was wary of, especially after the German revolution of 1919- nevermind white people of today were born AFTER all those things and hold responsibility, just as those claiming to be "victims" of it never really were;

Well, I don't have all day:
2. Circumstances that affect the capacity to prevent genocide
Get painted as an "intolerant racist bigot" for willing to defend your country, governments losing their sovereignty as they let their countries get invaded, denial of crimes by immigrants against whites, hiding of statistics on the subject.

3. Presence of illegal arms and armed elements
Most invaders are fit men, able to fight in a war, the presence of millions of potential soldiers constitutes quite a weapon in itself, disregarding the fact some of them could carry weapons, while police forces and armies defend the invaders, not their own people, as asked by their governments.

4. Motivation of leading actors in the State/region; acts which serve to encourage divisions between national, racial, ethnic, and religious groups
Economic factor in the form of cheap labor, outting nationals, political factors because immigrants would vote en masse to keep the current governments in place, depiction of nationalists as dangerous, disloyal, and securic/economic threats, unworthy, and inferior, propaganda in favor of immigrants and against nationals, push for diversity, multiculturalism, interbreeding, even though whites are soon to be minorities in their own countries yet still considered a majority.

5. Circumstances that facilitate perpetration of genocide (dynamic factors)
Well there's this fucking huge influx of foreigners, clearly extraordinary security laws that facilitate and erode civil rights and liberties, and yes, used to attack nationalists, huge increase in both inflammatory rhetoric and hate propaganda by leaders, and a tone of impunity.

6. Genocidal acts
Rape, sexual violence, killing, deprivation of resources needed for the group's survival only to be given to immigrants, program to prevent procreation including sterilization because changing sex is so fun, death threats. Oh, and terror attacks.

8. Triggering factors
Oh yeah. EU is collapsing, several upcoming elections, deployment of military because of terrorism and to protect migrants at the same time, and a HUGE increase in nationalism which I'm happy to witness every day, which prompts an even stronger and faster preemptive action.

7. Evidence of intent “to destroy in whole or in part …”
I kept this one for last, because now we have an issue.

It's all there, but… it's all separate events, it's all separate people acting on their own. The sum of those actions is nonetheless very, very scary, and still constitutes genocide, but… there is no real responsible for this, no one to point the finger at, and therefore, it could be said it's not an actual genocide because no one planned it all, and instead it's just that the current situation in the world happens to not be very nice with whites.

And that's why white genocide won't take off. That is the current discourse by mainstream media and governments: there's no genocide, because there is no culprit. And they think they beat the argument with just that, but that doesn't change the fact that whites are in great danger, because all we lack for it all to be called a genocide is a culprit, but you know, it's important to antagonize people, just like they couldn't allow have the shit that happens today to fly, if they didn't paint whites as the target.

So I'm seeing two ways to solve this:
- We find our own culprits, because it won't be taken seriously as long as there isn't anyone truly responsible, but pointing ((((them)))) out doesn't seem to be enough.
- We prove the genocide is real. I just typed this all off the top of my head, but there are many more things to consider. And by going go through the above definition, and enrich each point with articles, videos, photos… hard facts that the current situation hits pretty much each and every fucking bullet point far more than the holocaust itself did.

Best way seems to be to show all white people how much in danger we are, how their existences are threatened, and bury them under proof until they can't deny it. Changing the name won't do shit, unless we can find a better culprit.

Any statement that starts with "let's look at the definition" is inherently wrong. We wouldn't be in this situation if most people put that much thought into their decisions. If you're argument can't fit in a twitter post you've lost 99% of humans. Hell, you lose 95% after the first sentence, and more than 50% after the first word!

Nope, bad Idea. People are getting wiser with time towards the holocaust, it needs to become so the world Holocaust doesn't have any impact at all in Norm E. Dumbass' mind.

White genocide is fine as is.

I will leave this picture here. Jews hated it so much, why do they want to suppress this for? To prevent them from becoming less special (in their heads).

This, by saying "white holocaust" you're implying that the jewish holocaust actually happened. Shills like OP are becoming more subtle but don't let them trick you.

Also, we've had A LOT of threads in the past about how the term "white genocide" doesn't work but the OP's never explain why it doesn't work, it's obvious that (((certain people))) are not pleased with us using white genocide.

youtu.be/Fg1rL_kbO_w

mfw you say this considering that people are openly and successfully justifying white genocide successfully using holocaust and slavery white guilt

liveleak.com/view?i=246_1369581248

This is an example why we should reuse the holocaust all the time. To make the word not just about them anymore.

1. Point out that white privilege makes white people into the new boogeymen, and it creates the 'white problem'.
2. Point out that the solution to the white problem is to eradicate all the white people and their culture.
3. Point out that it has the same form as the 'Jewish Problem' and the 'final solution'
4. Point out that what happened to the Jews will happen to them.
5. Watch as they internalize that they're suddenly very motivated.

Bonus points for milking the term White Holocaust for bonus effect, and every time someone says holocaust they think of the genocide of white people and their culture around the world.

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sage all pro-Holohoax narratives

You underestimate people's ability to sit through long stuff. TV series have never been so fucking successful, videoblogs have never been so many.

You only need to grab their attention, but once you have it, you better have something to provide or you'll indeed lose them in mere seconds.

People don't believe in the white genocide, because when you tell them about it, you have fuck all to show. Meanwhile holocaust remembrance is on TV year round, and people actually sit through those documentaries and ceremonies filled with lies.

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Fuck off jew.

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You shilled the same thread one or two months ago m8.

White Genocide doesn't work because it sounds hysterical. White Holocaust is therefore even worse.

Vox Day discusses the problem with #WhiteGenocide, i.e., it being good dialectic but bad rhetoric:

voxday.blogspot.com/2016/05/why-whitegenocide-doesnt-work.html
voxday.blogspot.com/2016/05/a-tale-of-two-rhetorics.html

In my opinion the better meme is:

Replacement

Points in favor:

1. It's accurate, descriptive and non-hysterical.

2. In France the meme Great Replacement has taken off.

3. The technical term for what's happening is Replacement Migration. It's the word international bodies use (see pic).

Alt-Right portal: nxx14.blogspot.com

Holy shit op this is… borderline genius.

#white holocaust

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I hate how these aut-right faggots think they understand propaganda when every success they've ever had was from piggybacking on us or the Daily Stormer - usually just taking credit for something we or DS did.

At this point there's no reason to keep discussing things. The only way to decide is to test it out. Whichever works best will survive and the others will perish.

I'll start using "white holocaust", everyone else pick your horse and get memeing. Time to buy some authentic South African leather lampshades.

For some reason people only care about jews when it comes to genocide. It is like they have a monopoly on it. Never mind all Rwanda, Cambodia, Hutu vs. Tutsi, and many more. What is more ridiculous is you'd think that leftist would focus on all the other ones since they are of a 'more oppressed people' in their eyes = a lot of brown/black people genocides. My only guess to that is because with the jews it was whites on the jews where the others its blacks killing blacks / brown killing brown/ asian killing asian…hard to spin the white people are bad narrative.

For some reason people only care about jews when it comes to genocide. It is like they have a monopoly on it. Never mind all Rwanda, Cambodia, Hutu vs. Tutsi, and many more. What is more ridiculous is you'd think that leftist would focus on all the other ones since they are of a 'more oppressed people' in their eyes = a lot of brown/black people genocides. My only guess to that is because with the jews it was whites on the jews where the others its blacks killing blacks / brown killing brown/ asian killing asian…hard to spin the white people are bad narrative.

Victimizing yourself, won't work for the same reason, why jews victimhood won't work on us. Whites are viewed upon as the most developed and strongest society in this world. From the normalfag point of view, it is like a lion saying to the goat that it feels endangered.

Therefore we should rather keep up the fact that we are lions, and we should make all lions feel proud to be a lion.

So 1. Make sure you make normalfags realize about the (((snakes)))
2. Make people realize they shouldn't asociate white pride with hate, but simply with pride. Nothing wrong with being a lion.

But the Holocaust didnt happen, meanwhile the genocide and ethnic cleansing of whites is real and happening. How can we try to convince people the Holohoax is fake if we use Holocaust to refer to something we want them to accept as truth? Fucking cognitive dissonance. Are you a Jew disruptor or just low IQ and incapable of meta-cognition?

Works on some whites at least. If it didn't work why does the US appropriate American's tax dollars to give Israel billions of dollars each year?

i meant redpilled people like here on the board. Normalfags don't know about kikes so they fall for it, because from small age they get into their heads that jews are poor victims.

Most people don't even know where the tax goes to in general.

I was mostly just trying to point out that victim hood status works in the US. It radiates from the progressive's marxist based ideology of class struggle and to them you're either privileged or oppressed. People are scrambling to try to identify as some type of oppressed group. Not saying this is the route that White people should go. 1. it is weak 2. due to the progressive stacking white people are viewed as all being privileged so it would be a retarded up hill battle to play along with the victim game since they believe whites are privileged oppressive patriarchal terrorists.

It is a weird position for whites to be in, no one believes white people can have bad things happen to them because of their privilege, if we come across as too strong then it is further evidence something needs to be done about us.

Stopped reading there. Still think we should focus more on Armenian Genocide and the role of Jews in it.

I still think we need to leverage what happened in Seth Efrika into weapons grade memetics. It's an unbeatable argument that strikes the emotional core and is evident to anyone who looks at it.

How new are you?

How to spot a intl shill: they use these retarded maymays in everythigng they post

good thinking OP, it could also lead in people looking into holocaust when they will be trying to figure out some reason why whites can't have holocaust. That could bring back the awareness of slavs/gypsies… being part of it or looking into the numbers since some stupid lefties might argue about holocaust being used only for genocides that have over 6gazzilion victims or something

It's a win win situation, really good thinking OP

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I've watched progressive's mental gymnastics over white people getting killed in south africa (like the farmers) and their response boils down to = Apartheid happened, therefore whites are bad.

That would confuse people because most people consider Jews white.

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We STEAL it! Take the word, the CONCEPT ITSELF and reappropriate it to be about US instead of THEM!

First we become the "fake" Holocaust, and they keep the "real" one, then we flip it and they become fake and we become real!

GOOD! That confusion will lead to thinking, and hopefully more people will realize that they're not us. Hopefully if people make the distinction they'll finally stop caring about Jews. Not even the most progressive commie leftist cares about niggers dying in the streets, they only care about jews because they think they're humans.

Do you even know what this entails?

I think you are a little over your head here tbh.

The White Genocide meme under discussion was developed by Bob Whitaker who is neither Holla Forums nor DS.

Alt-Right means alternative to the establishment right. As such both DS and Holla Forums are Alt-Right by definition.

At the Alt-Right portal linked in my sig:

1. DS is ranked number one blog (by daily views)

2. The Holla Forums video by Gex is ranked number one video (by total views)

DS and Holla Forums are therefore not only part of the Alt-Right but its opinion leaders, at least according to objective metrics.

As such your statement makes no sense whatsoever because it's impossible for something to be piggybacking on itself.

Alt-Right portal: nxx14.blogspot.com

Can't steal these digits

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Using the holohoax in a legitimate way just give their word power. Why not throw in a Shoah for good measure while you are at it.

THIS FUCKING THIIIIS

a few things that will turn a normie off in no particular order:

White Genocide.
A normie incisions massive sci-fi level factories of death. An inescapable truism. An obvious afront to any decency. And of course Nazi camps (regardless of veracity)

Day of the Rope.
What the fucking fuck?! You know God damn well that's not a plan it's our wet dream and it won't fucking happen mostly because you keep fucking mentioning it like retards.

Nazi/Hitler fetish images.
Facepalm* for God sake think!!! A quadrillion skeckles have been spent demonizing this — you can NOT overcome this with normies, and to try makes me think your a fucking Jew paid by Soros!

For us to be taken seriously we need terminology that is safe for people who have to work and deal with HR and risk their marriage and job and fuck even kids.
We need smiling well dressed whites articulating our arguments to media. We need blacks and Hispanics to even say: "well damn they got a point"

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Pretty good idea but has to be well planned out.

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It's just one strategy to use in addition to others. I don't see why you can't use both white holocaust and white genocide. You're going to appeal to different groups. You need a variety of strategies not just one.

I agree, the term is getting laughed at.
Props for the ambition user, but I don't see this taking off.
Plus, calling shoah is a hallmark of the Jew. No thanks.

This is a very interesting mechanism user. Clockworks is pretty cool, too bad its being phased out by electronics.

But back on topic, the normies roll their eyes when they hear "white genocide" and think of skin heads with tin foil hats. But a replacement is more real to them because they can physically see the whites becoming a minority in their own white countries all around the world.