So how come the west has no erotic comics? I mean, I'm sure some exist, but it couldn't be called an industry...

Western loli erotica?

That's gotta be a rarity

Well, of course it's not American, or recent.

Didn't you make this exact thread last year?

Not enough money

Because most of the west still views comics/animation as kids stuff. It is why we got situations where parents took their kids to see movies like deadpool. On top of that, most of the people pushing for more adult themes in western animation feel threatened by porn.

Soccer moms never had any real grasp on the media, nor are relevant right now. Most of the time shit got made just to spite their bitching.

Where did you get this kind of bullshit idea?

The trick is to call your stuff art and get rich people to pay lots of money for it.
so never call your stuff "comics"

western erotica is boring

Because barely any Western artists are good enough to draw porn.

The best examples you can find is furshit, that's how bad it is.

Lost Girls

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Are you a time traveler?

There used to be erotic illustration/comic market, although from what I know lines were somewhat blurry between it and satire and pulp comics. Artists like Wally Wood worked for DC and Marvel, while also drawing his own semi-erotic books like Sally Forth or Cannon.

With Comic Code, Porno Magazines, and eventually films, erotic comics became less popular over time. Now Doujins are what primarily fills that niche, although you still have western artists like Manara and stuff like Tarot.

You're Adolphe Leslie de Griponne Barreaux.
You're born in 1899 and you studied a shit ton of art back when that meant something.
Around the age of 30 you start working on advertisements just as the great depression has hit.
You marry an Italian woman and a few years later you get into the pulp magazine industry drawing risky material, full page illustrations to go along with the stories.
For the better half of a decade you're drawing smutty or semi-morbid illustrations between some stuff that appeals to kids.
Your boss for the most part and the better half of a decade is Harry Donenfeld who still has to hide the fact he is producing risque material because of the fucking puritans.
You convince Harry to publish an erotic comic strip called Sally the Sleuth.
You draw it and it becomes popular leading to Harry publishing a bunch of other adult oriented comics.
Smashcut to 1938.
Have you heard about Superman?
This shit is flying off the fucking news stands.
Your boss has moved you so you can help him consolidate what will eventually be DC comics.
Harry's wikipedia page is a picture of him riding an elephant despite google having a more portrait looking photo.
You go back home, you have two kids, avoid WWII (Your first name is 'Adolphe' that has to be a little awkward) and you're working on a lot of comics.
In 1949 you become Editor-in-Chief of Trojan Magazines working with Harry as Co-owner of Trojan comics.
In 52' Trojan comics go bankrupt and in 53' the comic book code authority kills the whole god damn industry in a big way.
You act as editor on books of tasteful nude photography.
You die at the age of 86 in 1985.

To put it bluntly the CCA acted like a fiction based form of prohibition.
Seemingly a bunch of dickasses took the "Motion Picture Production Code" and just loosely applied that to comic books.
Believers in cultivation theory ham-stringed the industry.

So instead of going to I guess NYCC or LACC to go to a western version of comiket that is actually about selling comics, many of smutty variety for $5.00 or so, we instead have: Nothing.

Probably not.

spain, furries, internet, art drain to other industries, competition with other industries

If you wanna draw dirty comics you don't do it in some kind of comic scene, you do it online only.

Furries probably did more to HELP the industry than anybody else. They're the demographic that spends the most on sex comics and keep probably hundreds of people employed as artists due to just wanting as much as possible. Other than that your only real options are other super fetishists with money.

Normalfags do not buy erotic comics in north america. There's no space that'll sell them with any prominence except a few LCS's that'll put them waaaay behind big two stuff.

Furries have the infrastructure and the social structure for a healthy art commissioning industry, and even then it's almost gray market and they can't rely on payment processors. (mind you, Patreon has hundreds of furry porn artists but shuts down hotwheels because SJWs rule the roost)

user. This series right here has volumes that run anywhere from $10 to $70+. Even than the volumes are in short supply even in ebay.

Much like anything else in comics, porn comics do themselves zero favours in distribution and make piracy pretty much mandatory for most people who actually want to read them.

Is it so much to ask for the classic scenario of a an equlibrium being established in the community the vampire sets itself up in, a few sexual escapades and encounters in the community escalating up to the vampires attacks on the populace, iterating fetishes such as hypnotism, domination, rape, usage of the Vampires innate shapeshifting powers, Asphrodisiac vampire bites, usage of his command over lesser creatures for wolf bestiality, and finally the main girl whom the vampire attempts to seduce over a period before the final confrontation and his eventual defeat, only to prelude to pregnancy with a Dhampir child at the end for a potential sequel, as in that series we see the child grow with his complications of beign half-undead, come of age with his sexual awakening, with the conflict of choosing damnation and salvation, one with humans, and with a new Bisexual female vampire that shows up and takes an interest in him?

Then of course, there is Lesbian vampire seduction which i can't find a fucking thing of, porn involving vampire thralls explored through corruption fetishes and vampire bite, domination and sexual prowress to add a "drug addiction" narrative to the story, and a well set up Vampire niches in a daily life with fetish wear such as thrall or vampire maids and the like

No.

You know what I get?

Ultra-guro silly-billy ultra hetero vampire porn, SCARLET SISTES ALL DAY ERRY DAY, FUCKING DEMON VAMPIRE LOLIS, WHATEVER IS TAGGED WITH FUCKING MONSTER GIRL COLLECTIONS, NO BLOOD SUCKIGN FETISHES, AND A LOT OF VAMPIRE PORN WHERE THE WHOLE UNDEAD BEASTLY MONSTER THING ISN'T EMPHASIZED IN THE SEX, AND THE VAMPIRE CAININE WHICH MAKE THEM LOOK SEXY ARE BARELY EVEN SHOWN ABOVE THE "CLASSIC TOMBOY FANG"

IT'S SHIT, I HATE IT!

And don't even get me started on that Futa-Vampire sub-genre corruption strain shit, i've had it up to here with seeing those images, or the Anal-power vampire shit.

Just give me something that doesn't play on using vampire Immortality to give people loli cocksleeves for once, and give me shit like the Nosferatu remake where Orlock digs in to a goth chicks tits over an entire night like a pervert given the fruit of eden.

I mean, there was this film right, a crappy sequel and adaption of the next book past interview with a vampire, where these two vampires both sucked each other's blood at the same time in a sex position circulating it in motion to gain effectively a vampire suicide bomber last resort power boost.

Like, Can I get that, but without the negative death part to occur with two vampire girls sharing a double-dildo?

Or better yet, Incase, for fucks sakes, Halfling female vampires, you fucking shitcock.

With the advent of Patreon, we may see that change with a whole lot of indie titles coming out. Fred Perry works at Arctic press down here in Texas, but on his free time he makes some pretty great porn comics. I suggest supporting him on patreon.

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Has Colleen Coover drawn more pornos?

I think Spain had some just after the fall of Franco (maybe even before), but I don't know if they were actually sold in shops, or just "underground" like most other Western ones.
Come to think of it, Japan is probably unique in having a large number of porn comics sold openly all over the country. Not even the frogs have that!
I've always said, if I was Trump-rich, that I'd build a new British comics industry from the ground up, and that would include porn and a middle finger for critics. But as I'm not, I'll just scribble a Tijuana Bible or two.
Also British fag mags, back in their early days, included a surprising number of comics, which included porn comics, too. But they couldn't show erections, leading to plenty of odd angles, or just curiously un-aroused guys.

That's what they called "destape español"
Which means something like "Spanish uncovering". Yes, a lot of naughty publications came out after Franco's fall.

just ask the french, they give no fucks about that shit

This post made my soul sing An Die Schadenfreude.

I just want you to know: I feel your pain.

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There used to be one actually. Haven't you heard of Manara, Serpieri or Crepax?
Amusingly, those three (considered to be the best of the erotic comic industry) are italian.
I'd reccomend you to read Altuna too but the american versions are censored. However, while Altuna has made a lot of erotic comics (for Playboy, even), he managed to be recognized as an actual artist instead of "the guy who draws porn".

If we don't publish porno comics soon, the market will become SJW-centric.

We used to have Cherry Poptart, and Horny Biker Slut, and XXXenophile (Girl Genius' Phil Foglio!), and the furry stuff, like Genus.
Glen Danzig got some big names like Grant Morrison to write for his Verotik imprint.

The comic shops started to pussy out of selling western erotic comics after a comic shop owner was charged with distributing child pornography when his shop was raided and they found a copy of Frank Thorne's The Devil's Angel #2.

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Now do me a favour and tag this stuff, lazy fucking niggers.

This. The simple answer to the OP is: Every time the industry has grown, flourished and begun to take risks with itself to the point a market may grow, it has been burned, poisoned and slashed back. Rather than being protected by those who take artistic freedom seriously, it's been hijacked by well-meaning authoritarians each and every time for a different agenda every time.

The reason for this is that despite the bulwark of the US Constitution, law follows custom follows culture, and the American culture has been infested with a thick streak of Puritanism since the very start. (Compare the French, who do have a thriving respect for the erotic.)

The Japanese are the closest to a first world fascist society you're going to see but they have a better handle on this because erotiscism's been a legit thing for artists to do since pre-Edo period. The ability for five separate thriving 200-page ero-manga magazines to be published at the news-stand level every month is no accident - it grew over a period of decades into what it is now, and that in turn germinated from centuries-old tradition of eroticism.

Yet observe what happened when the Americans showed up with their Black Ships, and saw shunga (1800s erotic art):

The Americans subsequently pressured the newly-changed government to ban such things and they got their way. But did it work? Fuck no it didn't work, it was too much a part of the culture for anyone to seriously try and stamp it out. That's why it survived through to today, despite the obsolete law that forced porn to be censored being resurrected and put back on the books by the post-war occupation government that was helping to write the new country's criminal code.

tl;dr the reason you don't have a thriving erotic comic industry is because your culture's incompatible with it.

Pretty much this. The UK had a long story of popular culture involving parody, double entendres and all that sort of thing; this was present in their comics even during the Beano and Dandy days. The Japanese actually had legalized and controlled prostitution, and sex was an industry long before the americans arrived (kabuki was basically a form of topless dance when it started). The French had the Moulin Rouge, which was basically a big whorehouse. Note that those countries did had strong religious backgrounds, and even engaged in religious wars, but the USA was created by a bunch of cunts that were kicked out of their home country because they were too close minded.

Which is so fucking ironic when you consider how sexualized super heroes have always been. I mean, skin tight costumes and everything.

It is at this point that I feel I should point out that if you aren't seeing the kind of stuff you want, you could at least try to write some erotica of your own to see if there is a wider interest, or even do a colab with a artist.

Pretty good stuff.

Ex Libris Eroticus and Tijuana Bibles are the direct ancestors of the Western erotic comic.
Cherry Poptart was the first flat-out porn comic of the modern age, basically with its roots firmly in the underground comics of the Sixties, but pretty much just porn for porn's sake instead of doing it for shock value.
There was a proliferation of prons in the early 90's, but a moral panic ensued, and the comic industry do what they always do; trip each other for the zombies to catch. There hadn't been such an orgy of backstabbing since the Comics Code was written to put Gaines out of business. The cherry on the top was Don Simpson, of Megaton Man, drawing the guy behind the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund, as a rat wearing a suit, asking for money to defend Mike Diana's right to distribute "hand drawn child pornography", when Simpson himself, as "Anton Drek" had The Child-Bride Of Frankenstein in reprints. That could have been him on the stand if they'd picked Forbidden Frankenstein up in the raid instead of Devil's Angel.

user, read City of Eros. It'll blow your fucking mind- it begins with an Anglican pastor giving a homily decrying EXCESS prostitution, mentioning that he himself has only bought sexual favors TWICE in five years.

America had (and still has) a thriving market for erotica and commercial sex going back to the colonial period. There were printed woodcuts and guides and erotic "parodies" all through the 19th and 18th century.

We lack erotic comics partially because of the CCA but also because photographic and film pornography developed in the same period. Why would you want to pay for a shitty scribble when you could buy a moving picture?

That's fucking great.

Boiled Angel

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Boiled Angel was Mike Diana. Separate moral panic, against small-press comics. No-one gave a shit because the larger companies would be happy to see the vermin eradicated. I'm talking about the bust where the police confiscated a copy of Frank Thorne's Devil's Angel, the sequel to Tales Of The Iron Devil, specifically issue #2, that started a moral panic against eros comics, which is what we're talking about. The sore owner was arrested and charged with distributing child pornography over a pseudo-loli character in the book, and put on a sex offenders register, which caused every other comic retailer in the county to panic an stop selling adult comics.
It's important that comic fans remember their own history, that these events are recorded accurately and documented, because they happen again and again, it's a standard tool of politicians looking for an easy score to start a witch hunt, because we, the professionals, the amateurs, and the fans, are a pack of cowards and vipers who turn on each other at the slightest threat.

*store owner

But I can change.