Venezuela a Failure

Except for World War 2.

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Now now, user. We don't move goal posts around here.

Like all socialism, they had not run out of other people's money to spend yet. Venezuela had the same, it worked great initially, then the money runs out.

The national-SOCIALIST were socialists in many of the ways Venezuela is, including price controls, wage controls, nationalized industries. You need to admit that it would have failed just like any other country that does those economically stupid things. But nationalistic, but dont be socialist, have a FREE MARKET for white people where people need to compete. (also outlaw degeneracy)

Be nationalistic*

Socialism YES!

People on this board actually have little knowledge of the economic policies of National Socialist Germany and refuse to acknowledge how they have been replicated to varying degrees in other countries (some even going further than what the NatSocs did) since 1945.

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Venezuela is crashing because it is a banana republic, entirely reliant upon oil export. It really has nothing to do with socialism. Even if they were 100% capitalist they would still be fucked.

It just reinforces the need for autarky.

These people don't understand the national socialist monetary system, so think it is comparable in any way to monetary system and resulting economic structure of other dirigist countries after WWII.

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But it did. And it doesn't matter how many threads you will start to circlejerk and samefag, that's what happened.

Nationalsocialism isn't socialism at all. Socialism was just added so Hitler could sway the working class away from communism by offering his own "socialism".

Also Venezuela is a racemixed spic shithole, not much different from Brazil which is failing aswell despite being capitalist. In the end race is what matters the most.

lol under capitalism nobody would put all of their eggs in one basket. Not to mention that Venezuela hasn't even been doing any investments, their oil reserves were a lifeline for them that delayed the inevitable.
Socialism always fails.

you'll get rekt soon, the good times on your parents money will end, and "free market" will kick you in the balls.

go back to lefty/pol/, commie

yes just like all of those norwegians who are constantly dying in famines.

the petro-curse is real but it only manifests in countries run by shitskins. and not all of those (see: UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain)

The Scandinavian countries are socialist in name only really at this point. They have a mostly free market, although they still have crushing taxes.

Mob burns Venezuelan man alive over $5

seattletimes.com/nation-world/mob-burns-venezuelan-man-alive-over-5-as-justice-fails/

Can any one tell how much Venezuela imports is food? How can't socialist country feed it's people even when all cash is spent on boy prostitutes.

Brazil is not "capitalist", or at least it hasn't been in a long time. We have one of the most bureaucratic systems and the highest taxes in the world. You have no idea how many million small, private companies and business closed last year

And Hitler's "Socialism" wasnt just a name, it was Prussian Socialism as defined by Spengler.

Venezuelan minimu monthly wage: Bs. 15.051 (13 dollars)
>articulo.mercadolibre.com.ve/MLV-464982138-vendo-lavadora-general-electric-con-la-transmision-danada-_JM
a washing machine literally costs 4 months of work
>articulo.mercadolibre.com.ve/MLV-462647119-coche-para-bebe-tipo-moises-en-aluminio-happy-face-nuevo-_JM
a pram costs 330,000 bolivars

SHEET

Not truly socialist. If it was it wouldn't have failed!

But we have a law against private monopolies.

meanwhile, in caracas

5 dollars is a lot there

So what will happen now? Will we see the suffering people rising and lynching each and every politician and commie supporter? The government thugs mowing the peasants down? This would be a fantastic message for the rest of the world either way

all criminals actually want to kill maduro but he has fanatical military supporters
thousands of commoners will die violently for months until someone else grabs power

Meanwhile, on Holla Forums

Maybe compared to tax rates internationally, but their corporate and income taxes are still substantially lower than the US, corporate tax is 30 instead of the US's 40 percent, and the highest tax bracket is 45 percent, but that is only for people making over a million per year unlike the $250,000 cutoff for 40+ percent in the US. The Scandanavian countries actually tax less than the US or places like France or Italy, compared to most of Western Europe they have one of the lowest tax rates.

Except Europe also has VAT on top of income tax

National Socialism isn't "Communism but with racial homogeneity"

National Socialism can be as free market, free enterprise as you want, such as the American Nazi Party under Rockwell. The 1933 Nazis were divided on how much economic socialism they wanted. And while they did some price fixing, we now know today that this crap was stupid.

The "Socialism" part is a remnant, but it is still important because National Socialism not liberal in principle. You have limits to freedom of speech (i.e. you're not allowed to shit over the nation) and uppity commie niggers trying for revolution might just end up in the Endlösung.

National Socialism is not necessarily totalitarian. But it is anti-liberal - It is fascist: Unity is Strength. And it certainly isn't going to be a rothbardian libertarian utopia.

A more accurate name would be National Fascism. But re-branding is too expensive to be worth the effort.

fucking retards being retarded as usual, do give me a heads up when they say something not retarded for a change

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You know nothing about NatSoc if you want to call it "National Fascism".

FIFY

Fascism means Unity. Socialism is too easily confused with planned economies & communism.

eat thumbnails

probably the wrong image tbh

For us Germans the fundametal historical national doctrine is: "Be unified!"
The word "united" [einig] however does not mean "unity"[einheit] but "being in agreement" [einigket].
NatSoc isn't about unity rather "volksgemeinschaft". That's why they differ in economic policies.

The craziest part is that Bolivar was actually a proto-fascist who opposed the secession of Venezuela from Colombia.

Pic: Bolivar's flag.

We don't suck dick here either.

Doesn't seem to stop you.

What are they doing?

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Poor, you're shitty. Just like all the countries from that region. And you proved the point: you get money from oil so you get good social payouts. Money ends - social payouts end. You have good salary - you have a good life. It's ends - you need to start living frugally. Completely normal and expected result. Oh wait, it's not capitalism where there has to be constant growth at any cost, until everything explodes (and it's still fine because "free market giveth and taketh"). The payouts end - SOCIALISM FAILS!.

So you understand what we mean when we say that socialism cannot exist in a vacuum, right?

Yes it can. You just do what i've described. It's not a "failure", it's a normal response to outside conditions, like in this case, oil prices.

They are poor always, it's that region of the world, just have a nice break when oil price is good.

Meanwhile, in capitalist Chile…

A banana republic has nothing to blame but itself when it suffers total economic collapse due to the price of its commodity falling.

Fascism is a better idea. A return to the guild system that worked for centuries

Welcome to the 21st century witch-hunt.

You Lolbergs are all the same, obsessed with money like jews and leftists. GDP does not indicate a high quality of life.

But I'm sure in your true capitalist paradise you will be the rich one right? Just like how all communists think they'll be new Lenin

YOLO right fam? Who cares about civilization collapsing or being taken over by people of crime? XDXD

An entire economy shouldn't tank with one single product. The fact of the matter is that Venezuela's failure isn't due to low oil prices, but rather that its temporary success was only made possible by high oil prices. And that's no real success at all; just a normal response to outside conditions.

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Copper provides 20% of GDP and 60% of exports. Yeah, no dependency here. Just with better stuff. Fine, less than oil in Venezuela (50% GDP and 95% exports), but still, i'm sure the freedom would help them if the price for copper went to the bottom.

All the economy. Oil went down - economy gets poorer. Socialism has nothing to do with it. Oh wait, they should do quantative easing to their financial markets, i'm sure capitalist ways would help them.

Gas is still the cheapest in the world, won't that show socialism wins?.

Venezuela is surrounded by countries with no oil who do not experience massive economic meltdowns.
There are dozens of countries who get by without oil and there are even countries that do exceptionally well with practically no natural resources like germany & japan.

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GOD DAMN YOU KARL MARX WHY
DO YOU MAKE EVERYWHERE
BECOME DEGENERATE!!!!!!!

socialism is truly the Scrödinger's cat of ideologies