Who in the year 2016 DOESN'T use an adblock?

Who in the year 2016 DOESN'T use an adblock?
How do the ads continue to matter?

Now I hear facebook wants to serve ads outside of facebook on partner websites and you're basically a dirty anti-semitic goy if you block ads.

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How do we kill the facebook and what business model works best to run a site on to avoid becoming dependent on the ad shekles?

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its like you dont want to support the content you consume that people work so hard to create

:^)

reported.

i would rather donate or pay directly than be subject to ads.

ads make the content producer answer to the ad company. and the content producer whores out with sponsored articles and clickbait titles.

donations and subscriptions make content producers answer to their fans and encourage higher quality content.

if i were to make a site i'd rather avoid ads, they make the site bloated, low-class and low-energy.

so my question is for other anons who have experience running a site, what's the best business model? i will do it for free if necessary, but some shekles from a hobby would be nice.

Have most of your content available on your webpage but have it all compiled together and formatted nicely in a pdf file or physical book that you offer as an optional upgrade.

you would rather have a site ask you to pay money just to view few pages? Hosting, developing and managing sites cost money and time. Ads make this a win win for both sides. You get the content. The site owner makes profit or at least be able to afford keeping the site alive. Some ads are very intrusive and violate privacy, true, but that doesn't mean writing the whole thing off.

The concept of making money site is retarded anyway. The only quality content you'll get (or almost) is from the users, not the money making jews.

No, not almost. Even if this is the case, who hosts, develops and manages the space to allow users to share this quality content?

0/10

Tons of people don't block ads. They're what you call, "normalfags".


>>>/neet/

"HE WHO CONTROLS THE MEMES CONTROLS THE UNIVERSE"

i don't understand how someone would just say "fuck it, i'll tolerate the ads" rather than taking the 2 seconds to find an adblocker.

yes i would rather it ask me to pay money. better they're straight up about it than that they whore out to ad companies.

if i don't want to pay for it i won't use it.

Welcome to the normie mind.

so if you are googling something, you have no problem making 40 payments to view 40 search results? Every page view costs the site owner money.

not sure if you are retarded or trolling

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To whom? The Germans?

Have fun paying at least $50 on top of your internet bill in subscription or visit fees to every site you visit (e-mail, search engines, video, streaming, news, forums, file hosting and downloading, meme websites, support and knowledge bases, etc)

I'm sure everyone will be content with that, especially those in poorer countries (think africa) and those who aren't fond of handing out payment info to random strangers

I know a guy who does not use adblock. Sometimes he would show me some youtube video and we had to wait for the ad to play and so on. I asked why he don't install ublock or adblock and he says "he don't want to miss anything". Whatever that means.

The shit adds pull off is even more unethical than adblocking, so I block them without any remorse, thanks.

Speaking of ads and ad blocking, I just removed Holla Forums from my whitelist. Originally I felt like the site deserved some shekels, but after all that has happened lately I don't think so anymore. Breaking tor, global bans for shitposting, etc. Also tired of seeing ugly naked spics and spics sucking dicks.

having adblock or not adblock does not affect the income of ads

if you actually read what softserve does then you would have said to yourself "Hotwheels lied after all about wanting more reddit users"

Technology and the way people use it changes, and it's up to the creator to keep up with that change and work with it.

The consumer doesn't need to willingly gimp themselves because Content Creator is completely reliant on ads for income/hosting fees. Content Creator needs to figure out a way to become less dependent on ads because adblocking software is here and is never going away, no matter how much they cry about it.

It does if all the advertisers decide to stop advertising here when they see their views and clicks so far down that they can't justify spending the money

I don't even know where else to go that both respects my freedoms™ and gets posts more frequently than once every couple hours.

I'm hoping codemonkey lives up to his promises once his classes end. If not competitors will start to look better and better as the site continues to go downhill.

Terry A Davis doesn't use an adblocker and he wrote a fucking compiler.

It's obvious; they don't sell content, they sell ads and the content is just bait. The web doesn't need such sites and adblocking is a friendly way of telling thes people "get off my lawn greedy jews".

Doesn't matter if you're for or against adblockers. The ad bubble is popping soon with browsers marketed to normalfags that come with integrated adblockers. The only reason anyone watches ads is out of sympathy or ignorance. What kind of business plan is that? I'm surprised it's lasted this long, but it won't go on much longer. I don't know what kind of internet will exist without ad revenue, but I hope it's a better one.

there will always be ads that adblockers can't block.

example: ads that are part of the actual video file uploaded to youtube. I've already seen some of these.

even better example: product placement in videos/images. for text there is just plain shilling. professional journalists and even anonymous posters on imageboards shill for products all the time.

I am awaiting a nice set of plugins that allow users to bracket the start and end of adverts and spam in videos, then upload that data to share with following users so they auto skip sections of videos.

LAIN?

People who "know how to use a computer".
basically persons who do not care, and believe it's some obscure shit.

Precisely true.

most web users

because Facebook, Google and Android matter to normies

I left that site over a year ago. I posted a notice of my departure, a brief Stallmanesque rant and some points of contact for interested people. Then after a week I followed the procedure to "cancel" said account.


you motherfucker

Bunch of faggots LARPing as communists while they spend insane amounts of money on Apple products like good little capitalists. May as well go discuss technology on Holla Forums or reddit if that's what you are looking for

I don't get the second picture, what does that have to do with socialism?

This is beautiful, because we don't have to listen. They can bitch all they want. I'm never turning off ad blocking.

Nothing. It's just comparing Soviet policies to Facebook's data harvesting.

I really don't give a shit what people want to call me. I block ads and I will continue to block ads. Even if it means I have to do it via my hosts file.

/lam/ is still the best programming board out there, don't be fooled by the wannabe anarchists, lain is actually pretty comfy.

It's damn slow though.

That's not how it works, user. At least the old, pre-cucked Adblock Plus didn't directly block image downloads, instead it set the size of the image and the parent element to 0 on both axes, if I recall correctly. I think it did block HTTP requests for JS files, though.

That might mean he actually thinks ads are proper public service announcements.
Holy shit.

This tbh. I'd whitelist Holla Forums if the ads weren't so hideous. I don't want to risk someone looking over my shoulder at the exact moment the fucking penis pumps ad comes on.

Socialism doesn't respect the 4 freedoms.
It also doesn't respect any other conceivable freedom.

First of all
Second apparently it is you that doesn't know how adblocking works: github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Does-uBlock-block-ads-or-just-hide-them?

If I feel somebody deserves money for what they have made, I'll just give them the money, instead of dealing with ads and giving google even more money

The ad system sounded so promising at first.

Now it's just ugly spics, penis pumps, and Trump's mug on the bottom 24/7.

I use ublock on everything except news sites I like and youtube

The right of humans to not be bothered and insulted by ads supercede any attempts at selling crap online.

As someone with experience with trying to run services based on this I say. Bullshit in 99 % of the cases. The problem is that most people aren't willing to do that. They don't want to give a single shekel and that's the truth. So thee you are sitting waiting for a dollar here or two there to come in. Ads are sadly the only reliable source of income to pay for costs etc.

If everyone actually paid even a dollar a month to sites which content they enjoy we'd be in a very different situation.

I turn off adblock for sites who's content I enjoy. I think it's a small prise to pay for them bringing me something I enjoy. If edgy teenagers got that everything would be better.

A good example is music and movies. There both the consumers and the "producers" are retarded. One refuses to embrace technology and allow people to pay for content in a way that suits them and the other refuses to pay even if it's possible. Both are part of the problem. You get services such as spotify (muh special music that I can only buy in a dark alley behind a gay bar isn't there.. fuck off it's an example) and you still have people pirate, use grooveshart etc. Either you support services that are doing the right thing with your money or shut the fuck up.

As an example I pirate movies and I do this because 90 % of all the movies out there nowadays are shit or some fucking superhero BS. If the movie sucks I don't pay. If the movie is good I'll actually go and buy a copy of it. I want to send the signal as a consumer that this is what I want and am willing to pay for. This of course doesn't work for over prised shit but the same philosophy can be applied to everything.

Frequent a site = Turn off adblock on that site
Download a good movie you liked = Buy a copy
Pirate a game and like it = buy a copy
Watch jewtube videos on a channel you like = turn off adblock for that session

The list goes on.

And finally if you like a product and think it's over prised send them an email and say: "Hey I tried your product XYZ and I really like it, but it's way over prised". You'd be surprised how much they listen. I've even got special deals this way. And of course you'll have them who don't care but at least you tried to put your money where your mouth is.

It isn't as clear and simple as view ads and site gets paid. You completely glossed over the overruling factor, security. No one wants to get infected by shitty malware being peddled on major sites. Yahoo infects millions of computers an hour? A blurb on the news. If any of us did that we would be rotting in prison for 30 years.

Then you missed privacy. These aren't just ads, they are also trackers. All that information is scooped up and resold to everyone. It is used against you in all sorts of ways.

You also missed how adblock does more than just block ads. It is a content blocker. There are lists for malware domains, social elements which are also trackers, trackers, cookie law shit, and more. Even if you want to see ads there is no reason to completely turn off adblock.

All of your ideas are wrong and sadly outdated. How you talk is what was being said a decade ago in the 2000s. Not only are you wrong and backwards, what you suggest is flat out dangerous on todays internet.

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I thought that was called totalitarianism.
Pic related is simple english wikipedia, maybe that motivates you to read shit for once.

A handful of mega media corporations hiding everything behind a paywall. Websites will come in packages kind of like cable TV now.

Well you folks sure have been saying that for years, and yet it hasn't happened yet. You're right up there with people who have been waiting for an economic collapse since the 70s. I'm sure it's coming any day now.

Not really. Ad blocking isn't all that widespread.

People will pay once they realize their internet is gone without it.

Since I'm the product, then Google should pay me faggot.

During the Superbowl...they are.
:^)

A lot more people believe this than you think. They want to be "informed" about products.

this, I might not even bother with an ad blocker if ads weren't also an attack surface (and fucking hideous)

Your pic describes communism.

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I saw screencaps of merchants whining about the stupid goyim using adblock plus.

Don't they know that those ads are funding (((FREE JOURNALISM)))?

Here is one of them: Pic related.


How do the normies tolerate this shit?

I don't want viruses and advertisements are annoying as fuck. If I couldn't block ads I just wouldn't use the site and losing users is often worse than losing ad revenue.


but you go faster if you walk up an escelator

How do website know we have an adblock?
I mean, why aren't adblocks working by downloading the entire page, along with ads, and only THEN, LOCALLY, removing ads and reformating the page and displaying it to you? This seems like a logical thing to do, but I've never researched adblocks and their source code.

The worst is the people who know about it and are tech savvy enough to understand adblocking, but choose not to use it.

Because one of the reasons to block ads is to make the page load faster and to prevent botnet.

If you have JS enabled they can check for the presence of particular elements on the page. If they're there, then you're not blocking the ads.
I don't believe it would be possible without some sort of client side scripting. Perhaps the server could check if, when sending you the page, that you've also loaded the resources for the ad.

Aside from the visual annoyance: as others have mentioned in this thread the largest threat is tracking and security. By loading the ads they ALREADY have the information required to track to, at least to a small degree. By allowing JS to execute they have even more information.
Downloading the content in the first place IS the threat.

i dont use adblock because firefug is slow enough without it, and i dont want to run more code by random dudes (inb4 "adblock prevents you from running more code because it blocks code that comes with ads")

dunno but it's not from me. ads only work on consumerists


freenet, for example, but nobody uses that because they're faggots. hosting content is literrally trivial and tangible even on p2p with today's internet. see bittorrent for proof. (inb4 "but who hosts the old torrents" what is 404. what is lost domain name. what is lost hosting)

btw I host my own quality content ad-free on github.io. if they remove it ill simply host it somewhere else. eventually some decent content-based addressing network such as freenet will become popular and ill host it there

they could also just put for example and see whether your browser opens it or not

Just use ublock origin faggot
here's the link
addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/

I don't block ads because it's a dickish thing to do. Like why would you do that? That's how our favorite websites get revenue. If they don't get revenue then they won't be able to pay their bills and will cease to exist. WOW A BANNER! ZOMFG SO TERRIBLE, SO CRUEL!!!1! Is this board browsed by 99.9% jews or something?

Its like you enjoy plebians exploiting clicks and ad revenue.

Also, what is it with people who think they are entitled to ads. Its like they weren't using the internet when not everything was a fucking ad.

Don't use it, refuse to give it any merit in any way.

(((>>611988)))
Nice try.

Tracking and similar Kikery is also a dickish thing to do. I've got no problem with a simple banner (still images are vastly preferable to anything that moves) with a link to advertisers site and nothing more, but when JS, redirections, click counting, tracking, all that jazz get into it it gets downright unacceptable. No one's going to block a simple ad banner imposed into the site's html. Compare that to things such as though and its a completely different story. This should be obvious.

The funniest part is a lot of malls actually have the ad billboards directed at the escalators, not the stairs.

>mfw don't see ads or kikes whining about my adblocker

This isn't necessarily the model we would use. Something like flattr or patreon with free content, but a share of your money for the month.

I agree that it's not necessarily the model that will happen.

But here's the kicker, they aren't trying to spy on you. They're running analytics to better learn about their audience and create ads that are relevant so they'll click on them and check them out. I fail to see how that's so bad.