We Need to Stop Promoting Failed Tactics

All the same person using diff ID's, trying to derail debate. Go shill harder some one else, only jewish shills want white nationalist sperging out and being focused on dead end strategies.

I would at least agree on one point (yeah, with a shill), but Holla Forums pushed back aggressively on the idea when I suggested it once:

The "White Genocide" meme could use refinement. If the same concept was relabeled "White Extinction", it seems like a much more PLAUSIBLE scenario to the average person, then begs the question, "Well what would CAUSE such an extinction", which then opens the door for redpills about our enemies.

It should be noted, the current logic under which "White Genocide" is called such is by applying the UN's somewhat expanded definition of "genocide" and demanding that it by applied equally to whites (which jews and their puppets never do, because double-standards), but it begs the further question, "Why would we want to use kike euphemisms?"

First day coming over from /r/The_Donald?

Fuck off back to 4cuck and worship E-celebs like RamzPaul, Mendacious Moldberg, Milo, etc.

You can't be serious man. I have told at least a 100 white people about white genocide and none of them understood what i was talking about. You have to understand the average white person now has a very short attention span due to over use of internet and media.

Donald trump can pack stadium filled with white people because he simply says we need to close the border, they are rapist, criminals, etc. people understand that. they don't care about these complex issues like white genocide and Bolshevism or ww2.

Lol obv shill is obv. Dumb kike, whites own the majority of arms in the USA. Spics and blacks are generally too poor to afford anything worth a damn.

Go back to Breitbart, kike. We don't want your kosher nationalist faggotry.

Well maybe you should have told them about White Extinction instead :^)

I don't support any of those things. Again being an intellectual will do nothing in our movement, the public doesn't understand intellectualism for the most part. Ramz paul, Richard spencer, Gage, damigo, all these people are a joke.

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Wow dude you are so intelligent i can not believe nobody ever thought of this

B-but niggers are always talking about how they own gattling guns…

Fuck off woes

Or maybe we've seen this same thread 6 million times. Your whole post is basically an ad for the John Birch Society. They've been doing all the things you're talking about since 1958. Have you ever heard of the JBS? If you have, how big are the meetings of your local branch? Did you read the part in your school history book about how the JBS saved Western Civilization by not mentioning Hitler or Jews, and never offending anyone? No? Me either.

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It is failed tactics and you know it. BNP, Golden Dawn, National action are really killing it in the poll numbers eh guy? fucking idiot.

Check these triple-dubs. Remember that 6 million is upon us.

The fuck is that kike on? Cuckolds have been cuckolded by white men too. The kikes aren't even trying anymore.

White Nationalism is killing the White Race.

naming the jews and being a NatSoc really worked out for GLR? and i have no clue what jbs is. im talking about 21 century nationalism, not hollywood nazi sperg failed nationalism.

If it did not work, then how could you be aware that it is stupid?

Not that I think I will get an answer, as you anti-mantra pro-whites never defend the shit you post, just like the professional shills?

MY PEE ARE

Play nice and they fuck you. Playing nice got us into this mess. Now the gloves come off.

Keep sucking those cocks goy, I'm sure the world will get better any day now.

Race traitor. You should be shot.

REMINDER TO SAGE+REPORT+HIDE

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And that is?

Anti-whites want policies that end in white genocide, while the pro-whites want whites to survive.

You can't really make it simpler than that.

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here,
There is literally zero reason to be lumping me in there, you faggot fuck.
Un-trigger yourself.

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kill yourself

Genocide can be punished with the laws we have today, kike construction or not.

Extinction is not illegal, and that might be why you want us to use that?

I'm not sure if you're a paid shill or are actually this much of a newfag, but I think you'd be much more at home here:
>>>/Reddit/

Seems like White Extinction would work as an entry level into eventually realizing a White genocide is happening if the person continues investigating for himself

>>>/autism/

What is "sage"?
Posters may reply to threads without bumping them to the top of the index by putting "sage" in the email field.

You are misunderstanding the nature of our position. We will never gain power while people are fat and happy. We will never gain power through the democratic system, either.

We will only gain power when the system goes down and nature takes over. No tricks you can think of will work before then.

Our goal now is not redpilling normies because that is impossible (normies are normies because they are dumb and complacent). It is to get the best on our side and form a vanguard. Those groups you mentioned already have done this. If you look at the Nazis, they had no luck until things hit rock bottom. That is what we need. Until then, educate, organize, agitate.

Something I don't use.

Are you paid to say this?

I wish I had hard liquor for this post, but fuck it, here I go.

You little faggots wanna know what works? Being a bigger man.

I'm lifting now and working hard and managing my shit, and people follow me. If I explain to friends the innate greediness of Jews and play fun of it, they believe me.

If I tell them Blacks are lazy works and less intelligent and their work ethic is sub-par, eventually… they believe me.

One convert at a fucking time, that's how it works. Nothing through the internet works, not /Namibia or the NFP worked and while shit-posting and tweeting on twitter is a valuable effort, the real front is in your daily life.

The struggles all around. I just lost my first live in white-blonde girlfirend to meth. Right under my nose. I lost my second girlfriend (I was dating two women at the same time to start a harem to propagate white children) due to jealousy with the first. I was a weaker man.

Now I realized if you're fucking shredded, dudes won't talk shit. No one wants to bump with you if you're big and know how to fight. And niggers especially, back down real fucking quick.

I work a real fucking basic job flipping burgers. I hold shit down and I've dated two women at the same time and converted people to a "NO NIGGER AND NO JEW STANCE."

You do it through humor, through intelligence and craft and you get the people that matter seeing how you see it. You don't bring up Trump and you don't get in people's faces, you bring it out subtly was is right and what is wrong.

“Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one.”
― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

I spend every day either taking care of bills or working on my future business. There are many avenues to bring converts in. Church, sports clubs, your local campus, the gym, the mall, anywhere you meet people.

Learn game. Learn to walk up to people and start conversations. Grab girls' phone numbers like I do. They'll remember you, trust me. Dress well. This is important. If you don't look the part, you aren't the part.

Rise above. Right now the CIA and Heebs are pumping more and more drugs in the streets than ever before. Everybody is falling. Right now, the Fed Reserve is pumping more currency our than ever, eroding everyone's savings more than ever. Right now, there is more Black Man/White Woman propaganda than ever in movies and TV.

But that just means if you're a white man, a big white man, who's shredded, got a big heart, is generous, works hard, earns even meager money and watches after himself, people will follow you.

The white race is at war, but there are no cannons, no guns, no artillery, no missiles. Our fucking war is cultural and so we fight at it right back. In the gym, in the club, in the bar, at parties, at work and by talking to people.

Nobody trusts the system. Nobody. But people trust people. And even talking to others and explaining your viewpoint will change things, especially if people respect you. Don't start with your family, that's dumb, spread out. Start with acquaintances, than work from there.

This war can and will be done. And we'll do it only by taking care of ourselves first, by pushing ourselves first. Every single one of you is a God damn SS Lieutenant reincarnated.

The pain is great. But the price of failure is greater. Don't spend all day here. Find a basic job. Get a gym membership. Struggle. Find a way above. Find a way to find your inner-self. Fight back against the walls that close around you and take a candle to the darkness to light it up.

Darkness, with all it's might and all that it swallows can never fight the light. For the light, no matter what it does, the moment it goes off, it shines and it fucking shines through any dark. That is why we will win brothers, because we are light and they are darkness.

We are the match, you must be the candle and the motivation inside is what will lead you to prosper to build a lightbulb out of the scratch around you. Work through it. We are here for each other.

Our war is a face to face war. And you are representative for it. So act like it. HEIL HITLER, 14/88, GAS THE KIKES, MAY VICTORY LIE WITH THE GREATER!!

Maybe we should stop acting like we share an insectoid hivemind.

TRUMP DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOUR SHITTY OPINIONS – HE JUST TROLLS HARDER

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MY GODDESS BEAUTY!

Only actual jews and shill's are using the shill meme now, it's been used so much it's totally pointless now. Make an actual argument faglord or go back to 4chan.

They don't have to try anymore. They are comfy.

And you are a legit poster?

I wonder if OP has finally learned how to keep his tongue behind his teeth yet.

Usually.

You have to make damn well sure your political rise is impervious to being co-opted. It's so easy for our antagonists to get their feet into the door and divert us from our intentions. As much as we meme Trump as the Teflon Don, he is prone to being reshaped by Sheldon Adelson, the Establishment, all kinds of people with dubious agendas or degrees of separation from said agendas

Wrong, our war is racial. Kikes and marxists are working on total destruction of Europeans.

We did that with making the genocide memeplex open source, and not having an organization that can be infiltrated.

I don't think it can be done, to be honest.

You got called out cuck. Tell someone in your drum circle about it. Your limp wristed apologist bullshit will not be forgiven, regardless of whether or not you believe in it or you're too stupid to realize you're diluting the reality of what is occurring. Eat shit faggot.

I was talking about USA in particular. Elections can work in Europe because they have proportional representation.

In America, we will not be voting our way out. The nature of our struggle is more like a guerrilla army fighting regular army. These are the tactics we need to adopt. We cannot take them head on or we will be squashed, so we fight them to hit their weak points and break them down.

You're a smart guy, huh? You get your low IQ from those Semitic genes

I'm glad you are doing good and influencing people around you, but I am trying to offer a different point of view. If you believe NatSoc or fascism is going to work in the USA in any way you are insane. We are a nation based off of liberty and freedom, we can only win if we go this way. If NatSoc was to work in the US, it would have taken track by now. Trump has woken up more white people than ever.

My point is we need a new era of nationalism, I believe that with the Trump era coming in, we can get a lot of smart white nationalists into politics. I don't see how we are to gain power unless we become the power. I know running for office is lots of work but the baby boomer gen is cucked and we just need a new movement after trump gets in office. take BNP for example, in the beginning they were clean cut and were sensible, then you had people talking about white genocide, Zionism, kalergi plan, and his whole movement got co opted by Zionists.

I fear we are becoming like black people, who do nothing for their communities and blame da white man all day. We are becoming more and more degenerate like blacks did and we are blaming da jews all day and thinking posting on twitter will save us.

oy vey, we must infiltrate these fringe groups, moshe

Oh yes you will, and Trump is only the start.

kek

Are you talking about civic, ethnic or racial nationalism?

No, you do it through struggle

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MY GODDESS BEAUTY

MY SPIRIT TRUTH

lol you are bad at this

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No we won't. Trump isn't the start of anything. He is a centrist liberal. The only reason he looks like something good is because of how far gone the country already is.

anything that implies its for white people. as long as we don't have pagan flags and nat soc symbols we would be fine. It just would be hard to say america for white people which would be heavily looked down upon.

Because the ones that hold power, don't want to lose it all by being loyal to the cucks?

Must be a sephardim.

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Then you're a Nazi.

That's if you're PRcuck.

So fucking what? If you want a cheap route to political success, go liberal.

Yeah, always compromise like a bitch. You've all been bitches your entire life and you'll all keep being them. Go on, tell them what they want to hear because you are afraid, your cowardice will bring you a deeper grave than anything else.

Obvious D&C shill. SJW was a tiny minority even 15 years ago.

REPORT + HIDE + SAGE
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Why don't you answer questions, rather than act as a professional that just moves on with your talking points?

so what do you think of UKIP then? Front National? AfD? these parties are gaining lots of seats.

What is your question then?

The reason to why they have that haircut and that fancy suit is because they never have any hard labors and they never work with machinery where that hair can get stuck. It's a way of saying "fuck your country goyim, I don't have to work a single day of my life".

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They're civic "nationalists". In best case they'll save us some time.

I don't know much about them, sorry.

Marxists/liberals are gaining even more seats, so what?

Survival ≫ seats, political correctness or PR.

Op is right.

You fags talk about national socialism, but I bet none of you could tell me how what we're doing differs from what Hitler did in the early days of the party.

If it genocide memeplex or paradigm did not work, then how could you be aware that it is stupid?

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They will save us time, time is all we have. If we dont get our shit together in 30 years we are fucking toast. Non whites are getting prepared and in europe they WILL fight against whites and do a coup.

If you think a DOTR or you can win in a race war is nuts. we must not let it come to that. What do you suggest?

It's getting old mods, please.

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because i was one of the few people who understood. Just because a minority of people understand something doesn't mean the majority of white people will understand you. I have told lots of whites about white genocide, replacement and they didn't understand.

We talk about pro-whites, anti-whites and white genocide in this thread, but you are too stupid to understand that, and yet think we will listen to you?

It's the synagogue-poster.

Well do they know what rap is?

How stupid are these "people"?

I know, right?
Cuckservative "nationalists" aren't preparing for that. They're just milking the goyim, like liberals.

Whites are the best soldiers.

It's inevitable. Sooner or later there will be a full-scale racewar.

You are only proving my point by not answering my question and dismissing me.

Why aren't the mods banning people like this. This is fucking ridiculous. You aren't even a real person.

But you have shown that you don't understand anything?

You know nothing about BUGS that created the memeplex, but hey, you know and understand?

Watch this, OP.

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oy vey rabbi

I obviously know more than you. Go ahead, keep sitting on twitter all day posting white genocide and keep trolling with the alt right. Go turn on some red ice radio and learn about Bolshevism for the next 40 years while we get more Muslim mayors, anti whites in the government. Jared Taylor and ramzpaul sure woke up lots of white people, i think if we listen to AmRen or Richard Spencer all day, that will save us.

You had one stupid post, about nat soc in a thread on the white genocide memeplex coined by BUGS, that are not even nat.soc, and still manage to complain that nobody answers your question?

You know have two stupid posts, so you are not making it better for yourself.

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But all those you mention was against the use of the white genocide meme, although Spencer looks to have come around, and you claim to know a lot?

You are a joke.

We are nat.soc here, aren't we? My question demands answering. Answer my question you fucking slut.

Pro-white

True.
Redpilling takes time and as soon as you associate yourself with white nationalism then everybody will tune out and you lose.
You have to be selective about what you present to bluepilled.

is exactly right.

I also think youtube is one of the best places to spread information. We need to make more htings like With Open Gates. Notice how that film had nothing to do with national socialism or anything and just showed people what was really happening.

You're literally quoting Marx lol

He's not necessarily "right", but his statement seems reasonable.

Why do you keep bringing up the white genocide meme? I never said i was against it, i said its a failed strategy. My whole point is to get people to run for local office and try to get into politics. We can only replace the anti white establishment if we become the establishment. Look at how scared of Trump the jews are.

Now imagine if 10,000 of us got into politics in our lives, it would make a load of difference. I do not believe we have the time to waste to be sitting online all day spreading memes. I'm sayign the MAJORITY of white people don't care about cultural marxism, white genocide, or want to learn about Hitler, they don't care. they want jobs, security, and an end to crime in their neighboorhoods.

We keep trying to put the cart before the horse. Hitler took action, he didn't sit inside a small room all day talking about the jews, he went out there and told germans he would help fix their lives.

What's with the jobs meme?

No-one wants to work, they want welfare.

Anyone watching modern western cartoons is 100% liberal and 200% incompetent.

First rule of nature is self-preservation of a species, being a cuck is willingly surrendering your self-preservation and breaking that first rule for no gain to your species. Not everyone has to breed, but doing something that deteriorates your kind, especially by your own will, is why cuck is a huge insult. It's basically collective suicide wrapped around moralfaggotry (because they believe surrendering themselves to other tribes is a morally good thing, because the opposite would be RAAAAAAAACIST).

Then get into politics and promote policies that cut welfare. I don't believe most whites want welfare, i have statistics to back it up. The majority of white millennials want a smaller govt. and isolationism. 80% of non whites want a large govt and welfare.

Some people do but most want jobs. Hense why Trump is promising to get them back

Back to Holla Forums with you.

Except Marx was wrong because people do not start identifying with their economic class and kill all the capitalists. They instead go to tribal loyalty.

Then they won't get "jobs, security and an end to crime in their neighboorhoods", it's that simple. If you're not pro-White, eventually you'll lose your job to mahmud, whose brothers will rape your daughter.

That's why redpilling is extremely important.

white nationalism isnt as big as you think? did you play xbox from 2006-2012. any black guy in the lobby would get called a nigger by every 12 year old white kid. all we need is control of the pozzed school system and media, these kids are born loyal to their race.

That's because they are twats on xbox. They don't give a shit about politics. They were fucking 12. They were just saying an edgy word they had heard other people say on Xbox

Don't make me smash my hand from the computer screen and grab you.

It's meme magic.

lol I'm not agreeing with Marx's ideology; I'm pointing out that the previous user was essentially talking about how "'we' will never rise up until it gets so bad there must be a violent revolution" and that we are too complacent and so will never fight back.

That is literally a yuge part of socialist/communist takeover strategy.

Except what they found was that people didn't rise up, things didn't get worse, and the glorious proletarian masses didn't start lynching the bourgeoisie.

So all the Marxists decided to actively make things worse, to try and instigate their revolution. They also decided that if normies wouldn't rise up, they'd have to do it for them.

Accelerationism is literal Marxist ideology.

I find it ironic that user was almost word-for-word detailing Marxist takeover strategies.

Was it too tough for you cupcake? Does it bother you that you'd lose your teeth if you publicly declared your actual intentions, or were genuinely a useful idiot?

You're really fitting in. That /r/sub-faggot handbook is really paying off.

Neither is anything that the jews do to us to facilitate their gentle genocide.
The law becomes THEIR weapon when they control the lawmakers; trying to cite the law when your enemy owns it is a loser's game.

Why the fuck do you think White Genocide hasn't taken off outside of existing communities? Successful meme magic means using ideas that are going to SPREAD, not nit-picking over what word-choices sound best to the existing believers. (Insistence on that kind of purity is why people like US are replacing the old skinhead and Stormfront types)

Basically this.

look at who we have representing us in politics. Old, washed up, boomer cucks for the most part. Thankfully, these kind are going away and will be replaced by a vacuum. We need to become that vacuum. The tea party movement and libertarian movements have gained lots of support, a lot of young libertarians gained power in 2009-2011. Now we know free trade doesn't work, so we should run on local, protectionist policies like Donald trump. there is a shit load of young, white men going to trump rallies, if we don't gain power now, all hope is lost. Once we gain power enough, we can implement policies such as welfare sterilization programs and pro white breeding programs.

Again my whole point is to encourage most young Holla Forumsacks to get into politics as i plan on doing it, there has never been a better time. I wasted months red pilling people on twitter and spamming NRO. It was just a waste of time.

It's like calling someone a cunt or a faggot. You don't literally mean that someone is a vagina (or one of those weird little Navy sailor hats) or that they are homosexuals (or little bundles of sticks).

You're just saying naughty words cuz you're 12 and mommy can't hear you.

Fuck off.

Are this this massive of a faggot? or are you a shill who realizes what an improvement my suggestion would make?

I mean really, you're like one of those "opposing position" caricatures, where they make the guy's head giant and he screams everything.
You may feel entirely free to stay exactly this salty.

Hmm, I wonder why?

Are you going to admit that you know less that me?

it's not a meme, it's an objective description of reality. it's there whether you like it or not.

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Why is it a failed meme? maybe because your average hard working white person doesn't care or understand it. they are too busy paying bills, and want jobs. If trump can pack stadiums and arenas full of white people just by saying he wants a border and will give them jobs, what do you think they are clamoring for?

They will be punished for genocide when we get power, as they will be judged by the precedence set in Nuremberg.

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You are just like "don't vote for the Cuban, vote Trump" Taylor, that think you can take pro-white, anti-white and cuck out of the white genocide memeplex, and think you have something better, when the definition of anti-white and pro-white are gone.

You do like the words cucks, pro-white and anti-white right?

Do you know how much shit we got when we tried to introduced those words?

bro…
Since we're using liberal words like we're on god damn tumblr, I'm gonna have to ask for a trigger warning next time you want to commit such a gross act of cyber-violence against the word "objective".

That's a more valid point, since then you're at least basing the legal accusation on something other than the UN definition (an organization we pretty regularly deride). But with that, the "White Genocide" concept becomes even FURTHER complicated because now its tied up with the presumption of a nationalist takeover.

Strong memes need to be SIMPLE. The ideal is something like comparing the white race to "The Waking Lion". That shit doesn't need any explanation. Its a fucking glorious concept.

Replace "White Genocide" with "White Extinction", and suddenly instead of having this loaded, complicated concept that requires HUGE explanations to get normies up to speed, you have a SIMPLE two words that has a normie saying, "Well why would white people be going extinct?" And now they're asking YOU for more information.

If you want to promote/save the white "race" (in quotes because there are many races that could be classified as being white) this is probably on the right track.

You're only gonna draw attention to it by calling it white extinction instead of white genocide.

Before I give you an example proving this theory, here's why it's correct:

"Genocide" implies a perpetrator. A deliberate antagonist attacking and trying to destroy Whites. This is obviously happening, of course… BUT… Nobody buys it. People don't believe that someone's out there trying to kill/breed out all white people.

That's too big of a leap to expect the typical person to make.

So, call it "extinction" instead. This implies the end of Whites, but without the difficult-to-swallow notion that there's a bogeyman out there trying to kill 'em all.

But the "end result" is the same.

So from there, people go "gee, i wonder why Whites are going extinct, I better look into this…"

Indoctrinate them slowly. In order for someone to believe that Jews/Zionists/Globalists are deliberately trying to destroy the White race, they must first accept several ideas. And these ideas must be accepted in order.

It's not so much a SINGLE Red Pill as it is a course of antibiotics that must be fully completed in order to have an effect.

Now here's the proof:

Everyone accepts the meme that Redheads are going extinct.

How many people would believe that Redheads are being genocided?

Nobody would believe you if you started talking to them about "Redhead Genocide" and happy merchants.

But people readily accept "Redhead Extinction."

Holla Forums has become so shit with the election. People don't get that right and left are bullshit, or they do but just choose to forget it for this board.

But instead of actually being somewhat interesting like it used to be Holla Forums got nudered into basically just being a mirror of SJW's and the left. You all want the same shit as lefties now which is so have total control over everything and everyone, good job falling for the actual Jude plot.

Now that you're all so closely alligned to the left it'll be extra ez-pz to disguise them doing the same shit they were doing anyway as "red-pilled" and have you all believe it's different.

I can't believe people fall for this "now it's totally different" shit so hard.

The point is that people here try so hard to be different from Jews and the left now but instead of doing it where it's important you're only different on artificial bullshit.

You fell for the meme. If you all want to see the extent of the Jew ploy then look at yourselves. If you showed anyone posts from here and from tumblr to the average public they'd all think they were from the same place.

Just the fact that the IDEA of libertarianism is laughed at show's how many retards have infested this place since the election started. I don't think that libertarianism is necessarily the answer to the world's problems but the fact that it get's shot down so fast here just proves that all these new fags are the same as the left. But the left is the "establishment" now so they have to be edgy as fuck and do the "opposite".

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Suck's ass too, I wouldn't even give a shit either if the actual Jew ploy didn't fuck this place too, I don't give a fuck about halfchan and all the summerfags soon to be there but now it's here too.

Time to find a new imageboard I guess.

And for the record, I'm not White. I'm a mongrel halfbreed just in it for the lulz…

I also think your goals are noble, and your enemies are the enemies of all free peoples.

kill yourself

If I've said it once I've said it a trillion times: stop saying white. Start saying European. "White people" has become a tired liberal hate meme. We were never white anyway. We're shades of cream. I am milk, you're espresso. Great. But we are ALL European and European-descended people, and we should be fucking PROUD of that. Skin color is a red herring and another thing libshits obsess about.

Then when you begin to talk about how European people are being crushed and pushed out of their own homelands, and how some maniacs out there actually want us extinct, people will go "wait…what???" and they will get interested. Especially when you show them the mountains of fucking evidence to prove your point.

Rail about white people and they can just dismiss you as another white supremacist.

Rather like "nigger", certain terms are not redeemable and I don't believe it's worth trying. Stupid niggers will keep on trying to make some variation on "nigger" cool and it will never work. Let's not emulate them.

Disagree with you about many of your points, OP–particularly symbolism, though I agree that it's unlikely the swastika will ever win friends again anywhere but in India or Nepal or whatever. I still think it's stunning, though.

Also whenyou say "most whites will not care about zionism, kalergi plan…" etc., it's not because of the subject matter as much as that most modern people are idiots with the attention spans of gnats, and find me a person who still READS so I can be shocked for a sec here. You want to teach people this stuff, simplify it and spoon feed. Slowly.

Disagree about Twatter too. I hate it, but it's surprisingly influential. I think commenting on various sites–even Fartbook–is even more so, but yeah.

I do agree that tactics which have been used for many years without much success should be periodically re-evaluated, BUT….times change. Even the strongest stone is worn away by the action of water. Shift position, take a deep breath, put it out there again. Now is the time if ever there was one. People were not ready before. They are getting there. Timing is everything.

To the last point here, about redheads, I'd also point out that it is not acceptable to say, "Well that's not applicable because redheads AREN'T being exterminated. If they were I'd believe it in a second!"
If simple truth and facts equated to belief that easily, we'd have won over the public on the holocaust hoax a long time ago.

Oh, I meant to say race war.

Or whatever you guys call it… multiculturislam.

Thanks for proving me right and giving ur jew overlords something to jerk off to

Also good job not even reading past that sentence retard, I'm not even libertarian.

Isn't that just every human with a fucking backbone.

If you're actually socially retarded and can't converse idea's with people.

If I wasn't against someone's ideas then i'd have no reason to converse or argue with them, fuckhead.

It's created diffuse so people can discuss if it is real or not, as that is what people like to do.

It's the same with cuck and meme magic, as it is the possibility for lay people to say this is stupid or correct, that makes them auto-viral.

Yeah, I have to admit, that's probably a far more important adjustment to make/ habit to break, since it applies across all of our memes.

To a certain extent, liberals have trained themselves to hear European advocacy as a "dog-whistle" for white nationalism, but it makes little difference, since for the purpose of their talking points, the best they can do is either shout "racist", SHIFT the conversation to whiteness, meaning they they're suddenly focusing on skin color (dose raciss bastids XDDDD), or they argue against Europe, which makes them sound like assholes.

I somewhat agree with a few of the things you said, but they don't apply universally to Holla Forums.

And the whole
>Dumb _ don't know what's best for them why won't they listen
thing applies to all people in general. People are retards.

And, I think 2 separate definitions of Libertarianism have arisen.

The first is the political/economic Libertarianism. I think that due to human nature, this is as impossible as Socialism. This is what I believe most people are referring to when they say "lolbertarianism".

The second version is what people have begun calling Social Libertarianism, which is the idea that nobody has a right to dictate how I should best live my life: Personal freedom, individual liberties, constitutional rights, all that jazz.

It's more efficient and I think better overall to split the social aspects of Libertarianism from the strictly political/economic ones. (Like open borders, zero government, no antitrust stuff, "the free market", etc.

That has nothing to do with your original post. You're said that lolberg ideology is "laughed at" because of elections. That's wrong, we're laughing at libtards because their ideology is a total waste.

You have some good points, but someone needs to call the
TONE POLICE

I had a long reply, but fuck it. You just want more standard conservatives.

kek

Get a real job, or establish your bona fides by making yourself useful to a politician if that's what you want. Your piece of paper will be worthless and, you are too young to get elected to anything for a while anyhow, and you'll get to put up with more years of indoctrination. Unless you were homeschooled, more indoctrination is not what you need.

No thanks. I'm an american, but that has come to mean anything they want. No one cares if my background is british or german, or european.

I'm fucking white.

Y'know what cuck and meme magic have in common though?

They're simple concepts.

Good job proving me right that you're socially inept as shit and can't even understand context in my post.

there is a difference between defending your views blindly following what Holla Forums told you to. When you just shut something down your doing the ladder.

The fact you can't see how close you sound to a tumblrina is hilarious.

Nope, didn't say it's because elections, I said the influx of idiots who blindly believe everything here is because elections. and they just read that someone posted lelbertarian with a pepe and think it's what they should say too because if they don't then they get shamed for it.

Literally tumblr

Sorry for doing the ladder m8, I wish i was as smart as you, alas I shall forever be a socially inept retard.

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Addendum: the other thing that they have in common in contrast with White Genocide as a meme is being highly successful, but that might go without saying.

Sorry I left part out, it's 2:30am here.

There's a difference between defending you're beliefs by discussing it and just blindly repeating what you saw on Holla Forums.

Atleast you can admit it

Except I wasn't repeating anything m8, I didn't even attack you. All I said is that Most people with backbones are against beliefs that are different to theirs.

lolbergturdism is incompatible with Holla Forums ideas, of course people are laughing at it
Accept it or get out.

If you try to persuade using only facts, you'll die hungry. I wasn't arguing that we should use facts only.

Humans aren't rational beings.

We need to be drip-fed little bites of truth or we OD. And those truths need to be wrapped up in context and narrative and semantics and story.

It's like getting a dog to take a pill; you've gotta embed it in a snack.

The redhead thing was only to illustrate that we/you could use a similar starting point to get this into the public consciousness.

The point is that people won't believe in redhead genocide, but they accept redheads are going extinct.

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Fine with me, I'm not a libertarian, I'm conservative.

I'm just not retarded enough to fall for going so far right that I become essentially the same as the left.

Ah, a Centrist!

Meme magic and cuck simple?

It's only simple because you don't know much about them.

How come cuck means anti-white, if somebody did not start to use cuck metaphorical to insult anti-whites?

The real proof of the success of the genocide meme is all the people arguing how stupid it is though, as they don't understand that they are only spreading the genocide meme.

So you want to preserve the current state of things? You're on the wrong board, get back to >>>Holla Forums

What do you mean by "far right"? Nazism isn't a "far right" or left ideology.

Here's a post I made to a similar thread some weeks back.

P.S.

And, basically, to get a person to believe in "White Genocide" they have to accept these 8 claims:

That's a lot to prove all at once.

Getting them to accept potential white extinction is far easier, because it's only one claim that they need to accept.

Then go from there.

I personally wouldn't even call it White Genocide until the very end, where they've accepted each point. This way, you're not making a claim, you're naming a conclusion they've already drawn.

(checked)
breddy gud

Yeah, we're in agreement on this. I suppose I should have clarified that I was sorta speaking ahead to what I anticipated might be the rebuttal to your point about readheads.

It doesn't. Not in its viral form.
If you become more familiar with the meme and learn its real meaning, you'll learn the true implications, but a cuck, as somebody who loses his woman to adultery, simply summons connotations of a "weak man".
That is the simple nut of the meme that allowed it to spread; the tip of the root, if you will.

Reality check: People don't LEARN about memes before using them. They get fed clues every time they hear it based on etymology and context.

thanks for that post. I take a small amount of pride knowing i had figured out some of what you said - meaning the reasoning i use in my daily life isnt terrible.

Exercise is the high point for me - i can feel myself becoming better.
Now I just need to read more and get a classical(debate) education.

We don't need good PR. All we need are the memes.

We're molding the world the way we want it. It's not easy or precise, but it's the most powerful force ever found by man, and we're the best at it.

wew jew

Here's the video I talked about.

I later added:
This does not mean that you should lie. When someone comes to ask you 'Gee, user, I wonder who's behind all this shit,' then you can go further into detail. But the machinations thing is all that most people need or care about.

worse than that, it's someone who keeps her

memes = propaganda

and that's a good thing

The current state of things is hardly conservative, maybe by new meme definitions it is where everything has flip flopped around like crazy.

I mean that once you go far right enough like a lot of this board wants to you basically just circle around to the left, this is a pretty accepted thing.

tbh I just think that people were never meant to live in cities really. people just need to live in settlements that are the minimum size to prevent inbreeding and not go any larger than that. Size is where most issues in society come from. That's why the US is going to shit, too many people.

I see. Well you wouldn't actually use redheads as an example when indoctrinating people to the idea of white genocide, so it shouldn't come up as an objection.

Your response to

Is very close to what I was gonna write.

To add: memes spread when the main driving concept behind them is immediately graspable.

"Cuck" is immediately understood as "sell out".

Everything else is just refining that base concept.

It means pleasure derived from allowing something you're supposed to hold dear get utterly fucked.

That can apply to most anything, which is why it's spread so far, so fast.

Also… I hope Bill waits until after Trump wins the deneral to die.

or maybe you need people on the very far right to make sure that those things "stay" right.
you can't always try to appeal to the common denominator.

and if you turn it into a popularity contest we automatically lose.

That is not what people on the net write when they are discussing it, as I have been paying attention to how it has spread since may last year.

Not everybody get it at once, because of the multiple definitions, but they are normally told by the ones on the know.

Why don't you seem to realize you're agreeing with him?

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How new are you?

Trump marketers confirmed for controlled opposition.

This is a blatant attempt at shifting Holla Forums from everything it stands for.

SUBVERSION

REMEMBER YURI

How new are you?

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Just admit it. You modern Americunts are nothing more than shitstains, noting more. Not worth even sucking the cum off the boots of your grandfathers.

You fucking know so little and think you know it all, that I can't be bothered, even if you help spreading the BUGS memes by being the stupid one that don't get it.

gr8 b8 m8 I r8 GTFO my Holla Forums

Breaking character is against the rules.

But I'm sure most people who come here know it's mostly losers talking shit man.
If you put anyone from Holla Forums in the room as a nignog they'd just roll over and let him fuck them in the ass.

so yeah chan's are satire what else is new.

…is this a popular pastime where you're from?

You forgot this.

Actually Holla Forums was meme-jacked by stormfront.

So it's only mock satire.

Race War Is Our Strength.

The age of the stormlord is here.

YOU WILL BURN ON EARTH BEFORE YOU BURN IN HELL

Thanks for staying in character user.

This is actually very true. In fact both physical strength, height and brain size have been declining for the last several thousand years, the peak in human fitness was reached in ice age Europe. Urbanization and farming were a dysgenic disaster, basically we domesticated ourselves into lesser beings.

It has been mostly serious for most of us for many years. Just because we joke around sometimes, that doesn't mean we are not racial/ethnic nationalists.

You would fit in better on 4chan. Why did you come here?

I read all of OP's post in Morraiku's merchant voice.

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Yup, cities are where all this "degenerate" shit comes from, not from farming villages. If a brony popped up in a village of like 25 houses everyone would just make him conform or not get laid. But once your society gets to big it's not feasible, and definitely not feasible to govern it.

But with the internet all the problems of the big city can now come straight to everyone on the whole planet including previously nice towns and villages HALLELUJAH.

Plus most smaller towns near me are all meth addicted shit holes :/ other wise I'd move to one.

sage

Ok, I just finished watching the video.

His claims are that

Local politics are important and you win at local politics by talking to the people about what they care about (what that is he doesn't say exactly).

American Renaissance and similar groups don't help as they are too intellectual.

Right wind media like Red Ice doesn't help for the same reason.

We have to work with what we have ie. Trump, Front National, UKIP etc.

Angelo John Gage works for the feds and that a disproportionate amount of ex-military in right wing organizations work for the feds.

We don't have the time get fit for a supposed race war.

Did I miss anything?

Yes, now we have the chance to go back to proper human lives without giving up what's worth about civilization and our common future.

Example of article pointing out the link between population density and idiocracy: discovermagazine.com/2010/sep/25-modern-humans-smart-why-brain-shrinking

Yeah, I'm just saying that I think even in small towns, because the sjw shit and these larger society issues would follow us with the internet. And people won't get off the internet now that they're on it.

I wish Cuckerberg never made facebook. Now gram-gram is posting her favorite memes she saw on the 6 o'clock news and shit. It's gotten so bad like jesus fuck. I think most people can agree the internet and real life have gotten shittier since facebook got everyone on it.

Wow, didn't think i'd ever see a real upfront JIDF post again.

Stormfront is mild and tame compared to Holla Forums, only a fucktard or buttblasted salt miner would compare Holla Forums to Stormfront.

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Isn't it desirable to attack their machinations in everyday politics, while at the same time naming them directly on the internet/social medias?

Literally. And that's a good thing.

You can't tell if I'm bragging or complaining.

That's not true, farming and civilization propelled mankind.

And they all lived their greatest when everything you know today as 'Leftism' was not around or was stamped out rigorously and consistently.

Decline starts with Leftism. It's a simple 'R vs K' matter.

Well I guess the question is whether or not going to the moon one time was worth all this shit. To be honest I'd be fine with living in a small village for my whole life, even if technology doesn't really progress. Like a lot of people would be if they didn't have some retarded view of it that they got from TV.

But I think more and more people are starting to realize that large societies inevitably turn to shit, so the best way to keep a community nice is to keep it small. TBH we should all know this since most people here are pretty internet savvy and are mostly here because we left 4chan because of this very reason a while back.

4chin got too popular and normie and and went to hell with gamergate leading the way. So we had to make a smaller community, and as this one gets bigger it'll happen here as well. I guess mankind has a natural reset built in when we get too big, kind of comforting to know that we're probably going to have an infinite amount of chances so long as we don't devolve so hard we just nuke ourselves out of existence. But at least the earth will still be around.

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Stop playing their game!You will never win because it is rigged from the beginning.The only your way to win is to flip the table and call them out for what they are! Now go shill your PR shit somewhere else!

Also

It's almost like you want to be called a shill.

We started as /n/, we got deleted and remaded as /new/ (because OMG so racist much oy vey), then we got axed again by Christopher Poole because by that time he had already become an SJW, having gotten in deep with the SJW crowd, the LISTEN & BELIEVE cultists.

When /new/ was deleted we had become such a large and active board that we spilled all over on 4cuck, all boards took up our beliefs at a rapid pace, and Cuckopher Poole had no other option than to restore our board, hoping to 'contain' us. But he was so spiteful, and he could not stomach the fact that a board dedicated to collecting and analyzing the news, being a go-to-point for information, had caught on to the jews and actively spread the message. And so he remade our board but this time labeled it 'Politically Incorrect'. That was his last attempt at thwarting us. Think about that every time you type out 'Holla Forums'. It's a rebel label.

Now, about Stormfront then; already at the time when we were still called '/new/' Stormfront was mild and tame compared to us. They were already playing the PR-concern game. There used to be a time when Stormfront had actual IRL WN's and KKK members, but that time has long since gone under a history of drama involving FBI plants and snitches. You can actually piss people off on Stormfront by reminding them of their past, when they had real pro-whites and nationalists. Swastikas are banned there, 'inciting racial hatred' is banned there and so is 'hate speech'. That's what Stormfront is.

Funnily enough, this is how you can easily pick out shills; any chucklefuck passing by with words like "Stormfags" or "Stormweenies" or "Storm-anything" is a SafeSpace™ SJW who honestly believes Stormfront is the source of all White Evil and everything wrong with the world. Because these 'morally superior' status-signalling homos would not even dare to visit Stormfront or even engage any sort of people that their Cult might deem 'racist' or whatever.

As such, Stormfront is the ultimate evil in their debilitated opinion, even though they're posting right here on Holla Forums which is 6 million times worse than Stormfront ever was, even in its heyday

t. a /n/ews sman

yes, that's /n/, not even /new/

*remade

That's what i get for posting after sitting in the sun and drinking beer.

How about no. Precisely because those things are true we care about them in the first place.

I will not deal with half-truths and self-censor because you think our method is not working.

Completely right, Cuckerberg and cia are lying down the proper conditions for degeneracy. It's not like we don't know that all this senseless shit is harmful, it is known that social pathology arises not only from population density, but also from excessive social interaction. Social networks accelerate the decay into a behavioural sink (breakdown of gender roles, senseless agression withdrawal,…), what happens next is a collapse into a massive shitstorm.

nihrecord.nih.gov/newsletters/2008/07_25_2008/story1.htm
returnofkings.com/36915/what-humans-can-learn-from-the-mice-utopia-experiment

You sound like a big guy, are you tall?

Holy shit you just gave me the last piece of the puzzle for what I've been trying to figure out for what feels like years now.

We need to stop wasting this meme magic and start using it to bring social networks down. If people on chan's can make people melt their iphones with memes and elect a president then surely we'd be able to get people to turn on social networks in general and make the public opinion on them slowly turn negative?

Shit people need to start getting to work on this. If these articles are accurate taking out social networks would fix basically all the degeneracy problems we all hate, Why aren't more anons focused on this?

Daily reminder about Ted Kaczynski and his manifest
>9. The two psychological tendencies that underlie modern leftism we call "feelings of inferiority" and "oversocialization." Feelings of inferiority are characteristic of modern leftism as a whole, while oversocialization is characteristic only of a certain segment of modern leftism; but this segment is highly influential.
See 24-32 chapters for more information about "oversocialization".
cyber.eserver.org/unabom.txt

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We aren't running a political campaign here, Shlomo.

You missed the part where everyone you named is a cuck, pandering to the kikes.

We won't work with UKIP or Trump cuckolds. We will support and subvert them, but never work with them.

For the whole our point, the whole reason we are doing this is the complete annihilation of the jews.

until there is a power that names the jew, there won't be any working with them.

The whole point of Trump campaign was to make Hitler popular, not Trump. And if you failed to see that, you have to go back to plebbit and stay there.

He has been kicking around the web since 2001ish, he got his start in the GNAA. Lurk moar.

So when are you "National Socialists" and "White Nationalists" going to go outside and do something? You think posting pics and cartoons is going to save us?

All talk and whining, no action.

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Those that name the Jew are not in power and those that name the Jew are cowards that will never do anything.

Post you vulgar WN for the next 100 years. No one is going to embrace it.

That means the problem is WN. And yet you will keep doing the same thing over and over.

Actually all we need is Trump, who is already compared to Hitler in every MSM, promotion of the liberal hate of Israel and "palestinian genocide", then Israeli connection in 9/11.

The new holocaust will roll in in about 3 years.

This was checkmate. You should have shut the fuck up right here.

Who but weev would know that?

g8 b8 14/88

DROPPED. Fucking degenerate filth.

YEAH NO SHIT SHERLOCK. Wtf did you think was going to happen?

Daily reminder that a functional society can only work through monogamy. Men are only motivated to work and be civilized if they have a woman, so if men at the top take more than one woman, then you're left with men at the bottom who just become niggers. This is why Muslim countries have such a huge horde of single young men, horny and violent, who they're sending by the millions into Europe. If those men had wives back home, then they'd stay there and work to improve their home countries. This is one of the central reasons why Islam is stagnant and doesn't grow, because it wastes the motivational energies of large portions of its population and they turn into violence and crime instead of being turned toward productive purposes.

sage

So sage, you fucking retard.

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Anyone who's been on the internet for longer than last summer.

This strategy is constructed exactly for the purpose of getting the masses on your side

In the Simpsons back in the day, Homer said

"Homer: I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me, no matter how dumb my suggestions are!"

Of course, no one listens to the white man now - the MSM hates us.

So why not create some shill accounts on social media and turn the enemy against itself?

1. Using a Black woman account, ask why the media is full of Black-man white woman couples? Is it a plot to keep the black womyn down?

2. Using a white feminist account, accuse successful black men of using white girlfriends as sexist trophies.

3. Create white transwomen accounts and constantly attack black/minority feminists. If they counter-attack, accused them of Transphobia.

ETC

I suggest that

my friends and I tried to start one of those infiltrative fake feminist accounts, but it takes a lot of time and effort to maintain a believable online identity. You just get bored of it.

sage because ive posted itt twice already

Good God, someone that can actually think.

You are famous Weev, but none but Weev know he started when he was 15-16?

yeah you got moxy and I like your post OP, but you are just a little kid and a bachelors ins poly sci is literally a waste of fucking time. when you grow up you'll try to get a MPP and you'll get railroaded out of the program if you even speak up once. and you'll intern at a capital stapling papers for free in some neo-cohens office and then you'll have to get a real job and then you'll burn out and realize you are faggot.

t. guy who tried to do what you did

But all of the faggots in the GOP are promising the same thing without the Wall and are saying that the Wall is going to make the economy worse.

What you are saying is that you can say whatever random bullshit so long as you are promising bread and circuses to those goyischekopf voters. It's clear they aren't as stupid as you Jews think.

I've literally never met a white person who wasn't a turbofaggot SW already who didn't "understand" White Genocide. You are saying that they are having trouble paying bills and getting jobs. Well they are having trouble starting families too and affording children. They can see with their fucking eyes that no non-whites are having these same fucking problems and that its' an exclusively white problem.

The jig is up Moshe.

This isn't the first time you've made this argument. You are saying that what is happening is not Genocide by trying to jaundice the term by association with the UN. Presumably you'd promote that all concepts that the UN embraces (such as the existence of Nations) should similarly be discarded?

The UN concept of genocide is perfectly functional, and pushing White Genocide works better then your faggot ass argument over semantics because Extinction is natural and the argument is easily made that it isn't the governments job to combat the natural outcome of a laissez-faire system. The Far Left to the Cuck Right can all agree on this principle. The Left can support White Extinction without any moral baggage.

What we get with Genocide instead is plenty of Leftist's supporting White Genocide openly as their rebuttal to that meme which is bad PR from them. You are just trying to salvage the Left from bad PR because you know you can't control the mouths on your horde of low IQ savages which you rely on for political power.

BlackLivesMatter is a fucking disaster for the Left and BlackLivesMatter is exactly the kind of thinking that is reactively spawned from memes like White Genocide. At this point we are controlling our own opposition and choosing the form that this opposition takes because we are smarter than them and we don't source our morality to the emotional whims of brown teenagers.

This has been explained to you in the past more than once and yet you still come back over and over again as if it never happened.

The modern Left is suffuse with post-structuralist philosophy which is all about identifying and exploiting power structures for personal and political gain.

What you are objecting to is the Left being opposed with effective tactics because you believe that they lack decorum and that decorum is the most important thing in the world and is the definition of being correct, moral, couth, et cetera. This is totally false and is an idea actually pushed by the Left wherein they hold their opponents to a higher standard than they themselves adhere to. The tactics they are using are basically warfare and all of your decorum is designed as a means of diplomacy. Diplomacy is designed to avert war. It has no use once war has been engaged. Diplomacy at this point has broken down, meaning no decorum.

Your argument boils down to the fact that you think soldiers are immoral, and so when you get shot at you have to take the high road and not return bullets with more bullets because the entire practice is immoral. You'd rather die on your knees than live on your feet.

Good call.

Yeah no I'm talking about traditional politics not tumblr identity politics when I say that.

Both of those posts were me.

And Marxists are right about revolution, but they don't understand human nature so they don't know that the revolution will be around ethnic and religious lines, not economic ones.

The first time they tried, they got fascism and Stalinism, two things they definitely did not predict. This was because leftists are generally autistic and lack real empathy, so they don't understand other people. They assume that everyone else is about as autistic as they are themselves, so they also assume that other people will drop everything they care about in life to fixate on solely on economy the same as they do.

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That was very well written. (checked)

Thanks based stoicposter.

Here's some more good advice for anons working to be better men.

How pathetic is it that you think in a world with the kind of daily television advertising and non-stop emotional appeal that that bombards us that you can motivate people with pictures of white children. I mean, least of all BAWLING children, which people hate.

I have a serious suspicion that people who most loudly resist even minon changes to create more effective memes are disinfo shills, intent on keeping our meme magic (aka our propaganda game) completely pathetic. If not, then you are at least that harmful to memetic efforts, and that we're succeeding in spite of people like you.

Oh my fucking God.

Trump marketers confirmed for controlled opposition.

White nationalism is an ideology, not a tactic autisit.

If you want to move the overton window for normies (you can't only the "rulers" can) then good luck. I'm a white nationalist kind of guy though.

>Its just so VULGAH! OY VEY!

Where the fuck are you getting that that's a Trump person?

Look at the OP you fucktard, he's spewing the same shit.

Trump marketers have been trying to subvert us for a while now.

I agree with a lot of this but would say this: we need both. Clean cut nationalism for the party politics, and intellectual and countercultural shitposting for the metapolitics. While the two ends of the spectrum may have to signal against each other, they ultimately work together.

That's a good breakdown of his description of the jewish trap.

I thought he nuked his channel a while back. Interesting to see he's back.

It is, user.

Don't let shills tell you that you should reject any one tactic because it isn't ideal in every situation.

Use different tactics at different times and in different places.

Change it up to keep our enemies off balance. If they are attacked on multiple fronts via different tactics it's much harder for them to put up a proper defense.

Tried using Angelo's tactics in person and they work. You need to use humour. One of my favourite techniques is to agree in principle with someone and then apply that principle to his other beliefs to refute them. In private, he will usually rethink his principles or his beliefs. If you use this in public, you've exposed your adversary as an unprincipled hypocrite.

Don't bother arguing with women in public or in private. In private she'll just think you're being mean and in public other people will think you're being mean to her too because she'll cry, play the victim and actually get sympathy.

You can tell the truth to women, but if she disagrees or tries to give you shit for your beliefs, brush her off like an unruly child. You have to find it cute that she's so naive. Convince women with rhetoric and not logic.

This guy gets it:

Oh my god, you're right!

I mean, everybody knows that any old filthy kike couldn't just post a Trump image and then start spewing retarded nonsense!
Its illegal! :^)

GET OUT JUDEN!

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