Trump calls for end to federal minimum wage

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theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/08/federal-minimum-wage-trump

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forgot archive archive.is/bVoiR

Even with the archive, I felt dirty trying to read that. Goddamn guardian throwing backhanded attacks on the God-Emperor every other sentence.

The idea of minimum wage being different in California and Iowa where cost of living is a hell of a lot lower is iunfathomable to these people, as well as localized government in general

That's because to them, its Feelz > Realz, all day, everyday.

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Reminder:

Federal Minimum Wage != State Minimum Wage

This wouldn't impact the states who set their own minimums. That being said, it'll be nice to have a President who actually understands price floors.

so?

Federal minimum wages are ridiculous anyways, it works better at a state and local level.

When the new minimum wage of $7.25 was introduced prices in places with traditionally low prices like Wyoming shot up (and caused unemployment, rent being too high for the people living there) while people in San Francisco just shrugged at the pennies.

I don't know if I agree about a minimum wage, if we actually brought our industry back and the "lel service industry" wasn't the majority of jobs unskilled workers could do then wages would already be much higher… but if it had to exist it needs to be done by state and locally.

So this is us being one step closer to the end of the Welfare States of America
And we'll finally see actual competition among companies instead of them having to hire the most retarded of the retards just to justify their existence
And this is one actual news story in the midst of all the LUL DRUMPF CONFIRMED FOR BEST ALLY DON'T VOTE GOIYM

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Not only that, but it could be easy for kids to have a part-time after school job.
A lot of businesses would pay people $4 an hour or so to just sit around a grocery store or whatever all afternoon in case there was a big rush and management needed some extra checkers and stockers for a couple hours.
That's almost ideal for high schoolers because they could spend most of their time at "work" doing their homework in the break room, and since it's such a low-wage job, management wouldn't be concerned about filling every moment of every shift with work.

Federal anything stinks to high-heaven most of the time. United States is cursed with a bad Constitution.

It's not a bad constitution.

It's just that they didn't cover literally every base imaginable because they assumed that future leaders would be competent with the voting system.

Or that future leaders would hold the same values as they did and be of the same racial stock as they were.

Fuck. What do people expect? For the constitution to explicitly state 'Do not genocide your own race'? Hell it already does. It's just ignored.

A minimum wage at the state level makes more sense than having a nation-wide federal minimum wage.

If a state wants to decrease or increase the minimum wage it's going to be easier for the local population to have an influence on the decision.

It's the same thing with marijuana legalization. I would have thought California would be the first state to legalize cannabis but it was Colorado. Marijuana is probably never going to be legal in say, Utah, but for example it's going to be legal in Vermont soon.

Decentralization is usually a good thing.

Yes, it is.

“I like the idea of ‘let the states decide’,” Trump told NBC’s Meet the Press. “But I think people should get more. I think they’re out there. They’re working. It is a very low number.”

Asked “should the federal government set a floor” – a national minimum wage – Trump replied: “No, I’d rather have the states go out and do what they have to do. “And the states compete with each other, not only other countries, but they compete with each other.”

Compelling argument.

While Colorado is the only blue state in the west, I think the legalization had more to do with people saying that there are important things to, besides the actual threat of a creeping meth and Rx drug abuse problem in the state allows law enforcement to concentrate on a drug that actually fucks people up and not some over-glorified plant that makes people a little dumb and loopy for a while.

In case you still had doubts about The Guardian's dishonesty, check this out:

Looking toward a general election against Hillary Clinton, the prohibitive favorite to be the Democratic nominee, Trump similarly retreated from tax proposals that would benefit the most wealthy Americans and heavily tax the poor. On Sunday, he said he intended to tax the wealthy.

heavily tax the poor? huh? That's a lie:

Donald Trump's tax plan would help the poorest Americans

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this is the reference in the article:

Donald Trump unveils tax plan with cuts for poorest and richest Americans

web.archive.org/web/20160408022126/http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/28/donald-trump-unveils-tax-plan

two so-called experts say his tax plan could hurt the middle class and the poor:

Dean Baker, a liberal economist with the Center for Economic Policy Research, told the Guardian: “It looks like a huge tax break for the rich. “You’ve lowered the top rate from 43% to 25%, you ended the estate tax and you reduced the corporate income tax to 15%.”

Baker also said that given the elimination of many tax deductions, “this is almost certainly a huge increase for the middle class”.

But according to the CBS article the tax deductions aren't going to be eliminated and Dean Baker is a liberal/socialist – and a Bernie Sanders fan – who writes for CounterPunch and Truth-Out, so he's never going to like Trump or his policies.

The other expert – who doesn't seem to have been contacted by any other newspaper – says the plan could cost thousands of dollars for the poorest:

Rich Schmalbeck, a tax law expert at Duke University, told the Guardian that if such a provision eliminated the earned income tax credit, not mentioned in Trump’s plan, it could cost many low-income households thousands of dollars.

But the CBS article seems pretty clear

For The Guardian reporters and its editors it's probably some kind of reflex to claim that a Republican will tax the poor.

Wouldn't matter, since the state wage is higher than the federal minimum wage.


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I can't wait to hear liberals try to spin this as bad thing and convince their useful idiots that Trump is trying to steal money from the poor.

I think this is dangerous. Too many people are too stupid to get it and will just get upset.

Fuck em. We're beginning to learn that the stupid isn't a majority.

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The Constitution that was thrown out the day after it was signed?

What is he doing?

It will never be like that and I am sorry to say it but they are plenty of Trump supporters that are dumb and are voting for stupid reasons. Just because they happened to be voting for the only descent candidate in a long time it doesn't mean they are very intelligent.

I live in Washington State, and this is the exact reason me and a bunch of others voted for legalization even though we've never used it. There is a large lolbertarian population here that thinks the drug war is a stupid waste of resources.

Once again he chooses a completely logical position that people will interpret as "I hate niggers".

Most people are dumb and are voting for stupid reasons. The fact that they happened to pick a good candidate is a bonus.

This is good. The only decisions that the Fed should have power in is foreign policy. All other domestic and social issues should be decided by the states.

Did you guys know that Mexico's wages increased over a 30-year period as it exported surplus labor to the U.S.?

imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2006/wp0686.pdf

Fuck the Guardian. They're so goddamn dirty and care way too much about smearing American politics for being from the U.K.

question, does the money sent back to mexico by drug dealers make mexico more money than all other export they do, together?

shit, trump got some serious enemies against him.

It's definitely one of their main incomes, alongside with remittances.

Even the people who wrote it knew it was crap.

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kek, saved! source?

nice digits too!

humdinger of a post lad

Perfect answer.

This. Ending the federal minimum would force inter-state competition. You also need to take in the cost of living in different places.

Is trump pro state rights>federal authority?

Is this the rise of the confederacy?

We new universe now.

I actually strongly believe in federal power for nations, but America is such a large, divided country that we need emphasized states' rights in order to force The Happening.

This is good. I think its ridiculous that you're not allowed to undercut the competition by offering to work for a shekel less than someone with job experience.

How are you suppose to get shit on your resume if everything requires years of experience because of how high minimum wage is? Companies wont risk hiring someone with no experience where there are experienced people also desperate for work.

The only option is to volunteer and work for free just to have something to put on your resume. That is retarded, I'd rather work for 5 shekels an hour than work for free.

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Lower wages are good, goyim. They build character. They make us more…competitive.

YES PLEASE I NEED A JOB!!! I wanna learn gunsmithing but nobody will take me in because I have to be on their payroll. God please please please.

But minimum wage means more people out of business. With no payfloor, companies will have to increase their pay to hire on skilled people. Plus prices for products could drop significantly.

Classic Literature about Jews and wages:

"The Jew in the Thorns"
Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm

pitt.edu/~dash/grimm110.html

Aww yee

Well, you are well aware that ANY talk of:
1) Secession
2) Nullification
3) State's Rights
are equivalent to: "Let's reinstate slavery pull them all back in chains", obviously.

Fuckoff Berniebro lol

been there user, it made me want to blow my head off a lot. best piece of advice, just focus on graduating as fast as possible and don't waste time on people who you won't even hang out with after undergrad

cost of living would go down and state minimums would still exist 18 year old faggot

you have to have connections to do anything beyond beep-booping groceries at walmart these days user

Every national socialist knows that the purpose of employment is not to produce the goods the cheapest, but to offer an honorable opportunity to earn a living to every member of the nation willing to work.

If your goal is to make goods the cheapest and lower the cost of living (a stupid argument, since the cost of living realized by the lower price of goods is never a benefit to the person working a minimum wage job) then you should be in favor of free trade and opening the border to whomever is willing to work for the lowest wage.

Trump destroys the 'raise the minimum wage' narrative because he's focused on providing jobs for much more than $7.25 or $12.50 or $18 an hour. It's just so the 0.1% can push inflation and siphon more money from the poor to the rich.

Why would anyone believe an obvious lying jew when he says raising the minimum wage will make everyone wealthier? It won't, because of economics. Because of reality. Because liberalism doesn't exist.

look I am perfectly willing to be a fucking hardcore socialist when and if we get a white republic but until that date I don't give a flying fuck about jewish socialism

you are both putting words in my mouth and at the same time implying I support hard core libertarian principles simply because I mentioned to another user that they wanted to get rid of a FEDERAL minimum wage which fluctuates without mediating itself with the politics of various regions. a state minimum wage would still exist and could fluctuate so as to keep businesses from moving out of state. my goal is not "making goods for the cheapest,etc." I am not a policy maker and you are not one either, but I do support the idea of allowing people to actually be able to compete with walmart which is fucking subsidized by the gov't and can literally dismantle a town's local businesses and employ an entire town within a matter of years of moving into a town.

arguing "economic" theory is just arguing different flavors of materialism. I agree with your original point, the purpose of a state is to allow the citizens to further their own dignity and the health of their nation as a part of their community. the entire argument is about ideals, do we organize society around wealth accumulation? or do we organize it around protecting and preserving and strengthening our people? all the minutiae can be flexible beneath the idealist superstructure

I guess you're technically right. I had to jump in and rep the Fuhrer's ideals, though. A lot of burgers on the right, myself included, have been nurtured on Friedman and the like, and the other side should be heard in a place like this.

Don't be mad. I didn't mean to throw you in with the Jews personally. Hitler realized that both the intellectual German and the less intellectual, everyday, working German should share in the pie, even though one may find it easy to prey on the weakness of the other. I would like to see that ideal come to the fore in the US.

The people in those comments are cultists.

please user, there's machines now that have the good goyim do it for themselves.

That is not likely to happen. The grocery store would know that their rush is from 430pm - 730pm and have those kids on the registers for that specific time frame.

Idle hands are the devil's work is every employers mantra. They wouldnt pay kids to just stand around, but man would it be nice if wal mart had all 64 lanes open during the after work rush.