Masturbation: degenerate?

Fap less if you're in a bad place in life, because you're wasting energy you need to get out of it and rewarding yourself for doing nothing.

Don't fap every day or you'll feel tired all the time.

Don't fap the day of or a day before something important so you can be in peak condition.

Don't fap before putting yourself in a situation where you could meet eligible women, or your pacified sex drive will fuck you over.

Other than that, go nuts.

if I don't fap I wake up with jizz

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Wow what a fucking loser. What a complete-fucking-loser.

If I don't fap at least once every three days I cum in my pants in my sleep. Regardless of whether or not masturbation is degenerate I am still going to do it.

Is it normal to have never had a wet dream?

Yea that actually killed any boner that I had. Fucking weaboo autistismo faggots need rehabilitation. I actually have a friend like this and he really needs help since he's a permaNEET. at least he's chinese so he's not actually a weaboo but that kind of makes it worse

What happens if you stop fapping forever? Maybe you've been fapping so much that you never got a chance to jizz yourself

I've went months without wanking and its still never been a problem.

Masturbation is fine in moderation.

Masturbating more than twice a day is probably degenerate and not good for your physical health or your sexual health.

Chronic masturbating can be a sign of mental illness, hypersexuality and a degenerate mind. It can ruin your libido and can cause you to have erectile dysfunction. Not only that, but the porn industry is ran by Jews and you'd just be contributing to that, if you use porn to masturbate with. Even if it's amateur porn, it's usually still hosted by some kike site somewhere.

How can it be degenerative? What is it degenerating.

Clearly if your fantasies about women are warped by massive fake tits and plastic surgery this degenerates your perception of reality, in this case the reality of the female form.

Clearly if you require pornography to become arouse then your sex drive has degenerated from a healthy natural state to one requiring this stimulus.

Clearly if you're beating off five times a day you're not being productive, so if this "outlet" detracts from your productivity then you've degenerated your progression as a person spiritually and financially.

So because of the culture we're struggling through, for most people most of the time masturbation is degenerative… but isn't necessarily so for everyone.

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Then you are a god among men. Or maybe you're balls don't work.

Wait do you have lots of sex? Because if you do then godammit read between the line slol

I felt like I had to fap to Tila Tequlia at least once tbh

Will I still get the benefits of nofap if I am getting off on the thought of being pent-up?

Wet dreams are normal if you go a while without releasing, are you having sex?
Otherwise you're just not functioning right tbh friendo

You know damn well that you're trying to stir a pot full of shit with that question OP. It won't achieve anything other that shitflinging on both side.

When instead it actually stimulated healthy discussion.

There has been no shitflinging except an obese weeaboo who everyone mocked for being a total NEET virgin faggot

I've never had sex.
Guess I should see the doctor.

Once or twice a week to satisfy the need but otherwise work to strive for self betterment, which hopefully down the road that means you can attract a girl.

The key is to not just be content with fapping and have no desire to improve.

I don't think it's degenerate (maybe in excess, but a lot of things are degenerate in excess). I think the real thing to focus on is what you're masturbating to, not the fact itself.

As for me, I'm 26 years old and have never masturbated in my life.

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This. The whole NoFap nonsense has never gone to the theosophical level of the topic on Holla Forums, which is embarrassing.

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Is sex drive really the only thing involved? Ultimately every view comes down to what you think the universe actually is. Maybe it matters more what your self image is over masturbation; or the connotations of being a lonely virgin.

Some people say solo masturbation is healthy within a relationship, and there are of course many religious cliques that think sex itself is an outright shameful act, or it's tied to sin.

If you can deal with orgasming 5 times in 5 minutes, then that's great for you, but depending on how you or others view it, you may think less of yourself. Same goes for your perceived dependence on porn use, or the relationship you have to the porn (JOI).

BDSM basically asserts that sub/dom healthily diffuses what are otherwise problems of stress and frustration within society at large; and have the potential to become major crimes or social ills. Prostitution could be seen as a social ill that calms social ills.

Orgasm with a partner in the wider society escapes the negative stigma of self-pleasuring. And there is good reason for this: selfish acts abandon social responsibility; they are inherently less connected to the logic of organized, civilized existence.

Public acts which help others can necessarily never be degenerate - unless that society itself is degenerate when viewed externally. Masturbation will never reach the height of being innately connected to social reality, therefore the status of a suspicious selfish act is rightly sustained.

It's your own responsibility to deprogram your mind from establishment trancemanship, and claim back your control over your future. If sex is anything important to life, then that includes how you view sex for your own use ("sex" can include masturbation). It's your fucking mind. You decide.

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This is all they talk about on CuckChan.
Sage this shit like its a Cruz Campaign.

I don't masturbate to 3DPD.

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The Jews dominate the porn industry, and were behind the sexual liberation of our nations. That tells me right there that masturbation is a degenerate and destructive practice.

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There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, user. I like what you are getting at, but I think the reason why masturbation is even a question is because it is like saying "is a hammer good?" Masturbation is a tool, and I've found not a huge correlation between engaging in the activity and my spiritual health. My verdict: God seems to think it is a natural course of things just like rest and pursuing internet bantz, but not to be abused. I think using anything that wouldn't be available to a medieval peasant when reaching climax (i.e. your imagination) is probably a sin and definitely when used chronically.

That said, I don't engage in sex magick but have read some about it and refuse to engage in it because of the spiritual implications. I would rather not ride that tiger because I know I don't have the discipline to keep from being eaten.

excellent summary, user

That's a good point. Independent from the objective merits a practice could have, if Jews are involved… be suspicious.

That's the ideal solution.

No, it's a loss of semen and ipso facto of life energy.

My question is, does mastrubation cause hair loss?

Masturbation itself is not degenerate, but pornography for the most part is. A Jewish design to control the white man's impulses.

Semen is a higly valuable substance that serves the sacred purpose of creating new life, it is filled with precious minerals and nutrients you'd otherwise need, a lot.
This is not news, people, mainly whores, go on an on about the benefits of eating spunk or using it as a beauty mascara to halt aging, but what do you think busting a nut regularly means to YOUR bodily integrity?
Unless you have some life force to spare, you shouldn't masturbate that much, if at all.

What a brilliant political debate.

That's a complex question, given those digits.

moderation is key

This.

Sperm only have a 3 day shelf-life, so abstaining for longer than that doesn't really serve much purpose.

Go nut, I think you mean.

I fap 2 times a day is that degenerate?

Ancient Jews, Indians, and Chinese all recognized semen as a valuable life-essence. (Look up "Jing" in traditional Chinese medicine or Taoist Sex Magic and "Ojas" in Indian Ayurveda if you don't believe me.) Waste of semen was seen by all as akin to a waste of blood.

According to many learned Jewish Torah scholars, The Flood was symbolic of manking spilling too much semen on the ground, and was a punishment for that specific transgression. The water was hot and came from the depths of the earth in the same way that semen is hot and comes from the "depths" of the body. In the bible it says about the pre-flood people "they spilled their blood on the ground." Torah scholars recognized that this means that they spilled their semen on the ground.

Recommended reading. Jews dominated the porn industry with the specific goal of subverting WASP morals.

What if I just eat my own cum?

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do you use porn? because a brain that is addicted to porn will also dream about sex and make u nut.

this is different from proper nocturnal emissions which are used to empty ur balls when they are full up.

You think masturbation is natural but you are afraid to do sex magic. You should understand that each time you masturbate you are unknowingly participating in a sex magic ritual that feeds demonic forces.

Masturbation to pornography is making semen sacrifices to demonic idols (images of wicked people doing wicked things and images of kikes themselves fucking our women) at a regularly worshiped altar (your computer).

Look up stuff about the relationship between semen, the occult, and kabbalah if you don't believe me. Why do you think Jews have been kicking our asses for the last 100 years? They separated us from our own spiritual traditions and simultaneously used Kabbalah against us.

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Use common sense. Are you going to get nearly as much energy from drinking your own blood as it takes to produce it? Of course not, otherwise people would just drink their own blood to survive starvation.

Semen may even require more energy to produce than your blood, considering that each sperm has enough DNA to produce an entire new human.

Is drinking degenerate? Is smoking degenerate? Is sex degenerate? It's only bad for you when you indulge in it too much, it's as simple as that. But the problem, of course, is that some people are naturally predisposed to addictive behaviour and I am one of those people. Couple that with a culture that praises mindless self-indulgence and yeah, masturbation can become a huge issue.

I can offer a personal perspective on nofap as a drug addict who has been clean for almost 9 months now. I went through a month of rehab where I quit LSD, weed, cigarettes and alcohol. And after reading about nofap and the experiences these people have had before and after, I can tell you that they match up perfectly with everything I went through with drugs and everything alcoholics go through. The little details can differ, but the fundamental problem remains exactly the same. From the outside, the outcomes of porn/fap addiction might not seem that bad, we don't hear a lot of sad stories about people becoming bums because they fapped too much, but addiction is addiction and whether you lose your friends because of drugs or you don't leave the house because you're stuck watching porn, it doesn't really matter that much.

I've only just recently found out about all of this nofap business, but I have tried abstaining even for a few days before, just instinctively realizing that it might be a problem. for me. And I must say, there really is something to it. I'm generally a socially awkward skinny dude, but even 3 days without make me feel like an animal. It forces me to get out of the house, it forces me to lift, if only for the sake of releasing some of the tension. And it genuinely makes me not give a shit when talking with other people, none of that fake it till you make it nonsense, which for someone like me is as close to enlightenment as I have ever gotten.

So in short, if you haven't had any addiction problems, then fapping is probably fine. But if you have the slightest doubt about the way you're handling things, I suggest you watch out for the signs and see if you can spot them in your life. What's the worst that could happen?

Napoleon Hill wrote a book called "Think and Grow Rich".

This fucker didn't just decide to write a book about getting rich, he was set on this task by Andrew Carnegie, one of the richest men ever. Carnegie set Hill up with interviews with basically the who's who of rich people at the time. Hill spent many years researching how to become wealthy.

Sexual transmutation was one of the things he found that many rich people shared. Sex plays an incredible role in keeping people motivated and driven. Diverting sexual energy into other tasks seems to produce great results for many people.

Personally after I abstain for a few weeks my brain feels like it's wired in a different way. It's almost as if, without the brain stimulation and lethargy associated with porn/masturbation/sex, the baseline capacity of the brain increases. I can talk more fluidly, I feel awake, I look different and am able to communicate much more easily with the opposite sex. I feel a sense of confidence and drive. Negative thoughts rarely cross my mind and I am more likely to pursue positive actions. I am more prepared to stand up for myself, and feel physically and mentally more able to do so.

This exactly.

If Holla Forums collectively did nofap, we would win easily.

Saving your semen also naturally attracts women to you, and you can fuck your future wife with extra energy and hardness. Seminal retention eliminates both metaphorical and literal cucking.

Masturbation helps restore sanity.

I'm saying if you DON'T use pornography, then it is reasonable to masturbate.

Funny I used to masturbate about a girl until she seemed to tell me 'something that no one else would know' in a cryptic way. Then I realized I was violating her and that it was not desirable or wholesome to continue.

I can think best after I've jacked off, If I haven't for a while I have a lot of sexual energy which makes me think less logically. I guess It's subjective. That moment after I ejaculate I can think the most logically, otherwise sexual feelings which increase other feelings as well, and a lot of feelings are just not necessary for rational thought, makes it way harder to think.

Masturbation? No.
Porn? Yes.

can we can the voodoo thinking and understand that the only true magic is meme magic?

by the way, the jews are against masturbation, which is why they try to steal foreskins to process and resell as facial cream

I don't like to fap, I always feel a massive endurance nerf afterwards.

I still do it once or twice a week though, it's very hard to get past the urges specially when you are in college and see hot girls all the time.

Max I've lasted is two months, still trying to figure out how the fuck did I went that long.

The testes make sperm at about 5000 sperm a second at peak. They put these sperm into what are called the seminal vesicles, [Micrograph by scanning electron microscope (SEM) of human sperm cells magnified 3140 times (c) No specific author

What happens when you feed demons for years and then cut the tap?

Do they go somewhere else or are they starved for your energies like crack addicts?

Please respond.

My guess, if say, ethereal beings feed off of you like parasites in some way or another, they will have formed a parasitical bond with you, and in many ways attempt to psychologically manipulate any host to continue carrying out whatever keeps them satiated.

But to be honest, if say, there's no such being, you come out looking like a /x/ tier retard.

Better to assume "demons" are weakness. Do not give in to weakness user.

the amount coming out in your piss is far less than the amount that will come out if you masturbate. As for wet dreams, I have been doing nofap for 3 months and haven't had sex and also haven't had any wet dreams. Some advice is to not look at porn, eat healthy (not too much sweets and greasy food), and take care of your body. If you're too tired or overworked you're more likely to leak semen.

It's a pretty big group, you can't generalize it. Many Orthodox jews are against masturbation for their own people, but don't care about whether goyim do it or not. Secular Jews just don't care period and will sometimes encourage it. The Jewish domination of the porn industry seems to indicate that they're for it.

The original purpose of circumcision may have been at least partly to help prevent masturbation. But that's not the case any more with secular Jews.

I just like to have all possible bases covered. A parasitical bond would be severed by not giving into it over a long period of time I'm assuming. Though this kind of being is basically a characterized weakness, if it's not real.

It just seems to me that if Earth was some sort of energy farm, it would be a pretty good one, given all the people wanking, fucking, doing drugs et al.

So in a lot of Western art there's this theme of overcoming the serpent. Is the serpent simply allegory for libido? Because I feel as though these people would still have been doing sexual things.

Could they have been into some old school Taoist-type thought that we're not aware of? Taming the serpent may not mean starving the serpent. I know I can jerk off without nutting and not blueball myself if I relax, have good posture, move my energy up and control my breathing.

Or am I just being a weasel looking for a way to avoid celibacy?

General Jack T. Ripper was right after all. I'm dead serious.

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I'm just here to check 'em

Damn that's a get.

I don't have a PHD in serpentine trickery over the millennia, but I think there's more to sexual power than most people give credit for. If you could transmute that energy like a proper alchemist it would be a valuable supplement.

It's conjecture, but I've read that NatSoc Germany was aware of this and made use of it on a macro level. So instead of people wasting their energy aimlessly, they contributed it to something greater. And those people were pretty receptive to anything in that nature, the Weimar Republic was pretty much a failed state and as degenerate as you could get in that time.

In a way, Nazi Germany was an entire country that collectively overcame the symbolic serpent. They weren't celibate, they just weren't degenerate about sex.

Alternatively replace energy with will, and you get the same thing.

According to the Jewish mystical understanding of these demons, you're exactly correct.

I'm not sure if these parasitic cum-loving demons are real, but the topic fascinates me nonetheless.

If you want to know more, just google some of the terms in the following passage.

If this is the case, I've got lots of fam to liberate.

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In one interpretation, the "serpent" can be seen as the "kundalini" energy, that primal fire that wells up from deep within mankind, and to "overcome the serpent" is to harness and master that power.
An extra two cents to consider anyhow.

Unless you want to become a monk, it is better to have a wife and produce children than to be celibate. As for your prana yama masturbation, its good because it can help redistribute your sexual energy, making you less sexually-frustrated and more enlightened. It's only a problem if you lack self-control. Whenever I tried stuff like that I always went too far and ended up spilling my seed.

By the way, saving your seed will make your dick more swole.

tl;dr, what you're really asking is:

The answer is yes. The anglosphere holds the de facto monopoly on tantric mastery.

this.

Did nofap for 9 days. Not that long, I know, but all that happened to me was that I got incredibly anxious 100 percent of the time to masturbate.

If anything my thinking and focus was worse as a result of constant anxiety in the worst kind of way.

Turn that shit into something else. I spent hours reading up on what Buddhist monks, Hindu yogis, and new age gurus wrote about cum science. Then I saw vid related and it all sort of clicked.

Elliot is an honorary Aryan.

I don't know why you retards nuthug that faggot so hard. He's a pseudo intellectual imbecile who's ego has been way overfed by youtube imbeciles desperate for a father figure.

I'll brake this down…

Degenerate.
Degenerate.
Degenerate.
Degenerate.
Degenerate.

I'm sure I'll see more posts from you ITT and you'll contribute something other than replying to one thing and disappearing.

Basically.

I couldn't.

Everytime I sat down I thought about fapping. At least after I fapped I could put my head to good use and learn a ton of shit to better myself, even if my situation and status as a person wasn't improving.

Real men don't watch porn.

They live porn.

They are the devil their woman craves.

Channel your beast into satisfying your mate. Temporary abstinance can do wonders to get your instincts and desires re-aligned if prolonged pornjewery has got your cravings wacked up.

But yeah, channel that urge into winning a qt3.14's heart and filling her ripe body with cum.

Make dem babies. That's how we win. With our dicks and father instincts.

Being a decent father figure is better than being a bitter shitposter.

Yes, and when the 4th Reich rises all masturbators will be publicly flogged and shamed.

That's like someone who has a short attention span, aka a weak will, or known as the fake disorder as ADHD justifying their adderall script. Yes your head is more clear after you wank, but that doesn't mean it's a good thing in the long run.

yeah that withdrawal m8, you're hooked on dopamine, give it another week or so and you'll be wanting to chase girls

it would be difficult to catch masturbators. A better idea is to flog anyone found publicly PROMOTING masturbation. For example that brazen-faced Jewess Lacy Green.

The jews are behind most forms of porn, so forget that shit altogether. It also creates extremely unreasonable expectations. If you REALLY need to, just do it to your imagination, preferably about someone who actually exists. It's pretty much the only exception to the rule that masturbating to porn is degenerate and unacceptable.

i would fuck her into submission and out of feminism in a mountain cabin

Only if you're a fetishist. I fap a couple of times a day but I've never practiced casual sex anyway so it doesn't matter.

My stance is, if you're not having sex, rub one out once in a while. I don't see the harm. Hell, it's probably healthy, just like it's healthy to exercise/stimulate any other muscle in your body. Anyone conflating a porn obsession with masturbation is a fool. Most people masturbate, and most people don't regularly watch porn. Hell, you can have a porn obsession and not even masturbate to it. I just don't see the point in that nofap shit. I mean if you want to go a month or two for the sake of discipline, to test yourself if you do it a lot, by all means, give it a try. Other than that I don't see the point.

She looks like a young Hillary Clinton. No thanks…

We already talked about this extensively in the thread. Either you didn't read the thread or you're being a Jew. Pic related, a common Jew debate tactic is to forget everything the opponent just said and go on as if nothing happened.

No, but masturbation addiction and porn exposure is.
/discussion forever

We have already discussed many of the benefits of semen retention in the thread if you wish to browse it.

Sure. I actually didn't realize that I posted in here already like a week ago, as my stance on the issue has changed slightly since then, but I'll look at what you have to say.

I think this is the best way to approach NoFap. I would just fap everyday whenever I was bored. Not only does it feel more rewarding when following these guidelines, but it also gives you the positive effects of NoFap without the teeth grinding abstinence

Wait for your balls to drop.

stop looking at porn because that will put more sexual imagery in your mind and influence your dreams

don't eat right before bed or let your body get too warm at night. Maybe let your feet hang out of your covers.

don't eat too much greasy food, meat, or sweets.

work with your mind and/or body to use your excess energy, but not to the point of exhaustion. If you are exhausted it is easier to leak semen.

There is little scientific backing for this advice, but if you try the advice I bet it will make a big difference.

Of course its degenerate, most people don't want to admit it because its the one drug thats legal to abuse in their lives.

A man whose masturbating is both living in a fantasy world, and stimulating a very influential part of his psyche to go along with this fantasy.

He imagines he's having sex with a woman. In reality, he's touching himself with his hand.

He imagines he's fornicating. The woman that exists in his mind is nothing to him. Just an object to fuel his lust. Once he's done with her, she's just as easily forgotten.

There is no concern for the image of the woman as wife and mother. How can there by, when it only exists for the purposes of stimulation/ Hence, the masturbatory mindset is inherently antimarriage and pro sterility. It's no surprise birthrates plummeted around the advent of the sexual revolution.

This is how fornicators, adulterers, and other degenerates view sex. This conception has a deleterious effect on the human soul. Just look at the difference of the people of the west pre and post sexual revolution.

There is a natural cosmic order that's been laid down. Human nature exists. When men step outside the bounds of their nature, they become out of harmony with the cosmos. Unbalance follows.

That we no longer have the vocabulary in modern society to talk about sexual morals, but the reality remains that chastity brings man in harmony with the truth. Masturbation, as a form of unchastity, disrupts that harmony.

It's why the left continue to push it and other forms of degeneracy. It helps destabilize the minds of men and make them easier to bend to the leftists' control.

It gives you man-tits. Prolactin, which is the hormone responsible for milking and loss of sexual urges, is released after masturbation.