How soon Until Marvel stop pretending people give a shit about the Inhumans...

How soon Until Marvel stop pretending people give a shit about the Inhumans? No gives a shit about them until The Disney buy out. Hell the Inhumans didn't even get a Ultimate Universe counterpart.

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To be fair. Mutants being hammered as being a methaphor for being gay/transgender so much. They don't work as methaphor for race anymore. That's where the Inhumans come in. You don't see marvel randomly turning straight Inhumans character gay.

Inhumans are literally Mutants with the serial numbers filed off, but because tgey aren't mired in the Mutant/Nonmutant retardation, Marvel is free to tell other stories about them.

Now if only they would do that.

They didn't really work as a metaphor for being gay or transgender either.

I'm pretty sure they did

Ultimate Fantastic Holla Forums?

Yes.

Johnny Storm uses his fire powers to burn Jews.

I never understood why all the big budget fantastic four movies were base on the most hated ultimate book.

I imagine in some sense it's practicality, like how all film iterations of Spider-Man have him bitten by a genetically altered instead of a radioactive spider. Or how Hulk is always a victim of genetic manipulation rather than being blasted by gamma rays.

When Fantastic Four #1 came out, people didn't really know that much about space travel and what's out there, so having the four gain superpowers by being bathed in Cosmic Rays seemed plausible.

Now we know that much more about space travel, having them gain superpowers by being bathed in cosmic rays sounds ridiculous. Rather than come up with their own explanation, the movie people find it simpler just to borrow the explanation from Ultimate, that they had their molecules scattered by teleporter.

Tell that to marvel comics

They've been trying to push the Inhumans since the goddamn 90's with that awful FF cartoon.

Hasn't worked then, hasn't worked now.

Which one? The one that basically adapted Kirby's comics?

When Marvel Studios finally commits to a solid script draft and a release date.


Actually both the Ang Lee film and the reboot use gamma rays in conjunction with genetic manipulation in different ways.

And the first Fox FF film did use a variation of the space cosmic rays origin. I'd argue that it has nothing to do with plausibility, since all superhero origins are functionally ridiculous at their core.

But only the Marvel ones have exposure to radiation = superpowers as their theme. Which, as we now know, would be more like exposure to radiation = death.

All fiction has got to be believable up to a certain point so that when it starts being unbelievable the audience just believes it regardless. If these films were made in the 60s when the comics were, audiences might swallow it. But these films are coming out after the Moon landing, after Chernobyl, after a bunch of stuff that tells us that radiation doesn't work the way Steve Ditko/Jack Kirby thought it did.

Didn't the comics explain that Humans mutate instead of dying from radiation because aliens injected mutation genes in early humans?

They were probably the only thing I enjoyed reading Civil War. Even then their brief issue was forgettable besides Iron Man showing up to be a cockblock.

Not sure which was more contemptible- Tony being the royal piece of shit, or Reed 'cuck me harder' Richards going along with it and leasing use of his pocket dimension all because he was traumatized by the red scare.

Hell- that alone should have given him reason to say no and grow a spine immediately- especially when everyone he loves already abandoned him.

What the fuck is this shit?

You just heard of Motion Comics?

It's all movie studio politics. The Mouse can't make any shekels off the muties because 20th Century Fox owns the licensing rights, so they're decreasing the X-men profiles in the comics while raising the Inhumans up, as part of their strategy to make Inhumans the new muties in the MCU. The comics already had that Inhumanity event while mutants are dying out, and Agents Of S.H.I.T. has been laying the groundwork for lots of Inhumans to start popping up in the coming years. No one gives a shit about the comics anymore anyway, they're just extra support for the movies nowadays.
Same reason the Fantastic 4 aren't getting too much publicity these days. No chance Marvel can give them their own movie at this point.

They probably could if they had the rights.

Why there no inhuman cartoon yet on Disney XD?

Are you fucking for real? The inhumans come in when marvel can't put the X men in an Avengers film. Money. That's where the inhumans come in.

Because inhumans don't have brand recognition.

Why would disney spend big bucks making expensive animation for a property no ones gives a shit about or even worse, don't even know?

Because firstly animation isn't that expensive and secondly if they're making a much more expensive feature film about them it would make sense to do a kids' cartoon.

Still, the cheap crap Marvel puts out are based on Spider-Man, Avengers, GotG, and Hulk

In which case it would make perfect sense for them to do yet another show about a team of superheroes.

Compared to what? A space program?


Except that they might not even do it in the first place: collider.com/inhumans-movie-release-date-marvel/

Only after the movie. Seriously, that's why they didn't make a guardians of the galaxy BEFORE the fucking movie. They did a GOTG cartoon AFTER the fucking movie.

Your lack of understanding of how properties are developed is great. You should apply to a high executive role in Fox or Sony…

How much is a copy of Flash? That's all it would be, or else they ship it out to Korea for $30,000 an episode, which is still way less than they'd make a big movie for.


Doing a cartoon series before a movie is not unprecedented

They establish a fanbase for this shit before they do a big budget motion picture. What do you think the comics are for?

Nobody gives a shit about Inhumans, ergo you have them guest star in an existing property. Or you do a trial run on television or something. If doesn't work, at least you haven't spent hundreds of millions of dollars on something you can't sell to a potential audience.

They released it after the movie, but greenlit it before out of confidence

So… More than 50 years of comics were for establish a fanbase for the movies. Fucking millenials… seriously. You guys are the worst.

Exactly
Which is the same thing as developing a cartoon right? You just moved the goal post to hell.

Like, IDK, Agents of shield. Results of the trial run: nobody fucking cares.

They greenlit it after the movie was done. But before it was released to the public. There's a difference

AoS in general?

No. No. Nobody cares about Inhumans. AoS is fine I think. But even they are dancing around the Inhuman mythos.

Marvel dances around mythos in general, MCU characters basically aren't superheroes.

The only people I see fully embracing their comic origins right now are the flash writers. They've had
>Jay Garrick kind of with a faithful as fuck costume

Yeah. This is why the DCEU is so exasperating to me. Warner has people that actually understands the properties. Why aren't these people in charge of the cinematic universe?

Yeah that's right

Warner is the problem, although they may say otherwise, the public doesn't want superhero movies. They want marvel, and Warner knows it. They're not ready to risk millions on something faithful to the source material like The Flash, where literally every scene could have come from a comic. Instead we'll continue getting MCU movies where every plot is the same, and DCEU movies that are "grim and gritty reimaginings" of characters that could only benefit from the opposite treatment.

Does the Inhumans even have any porn?

Sure. Like everything else from the 20th century onwards. Your point?

Nah. The public wants escapism and pop corn fodder. Whether it comes from marvel or any other source.

Nope. They don't know it. They are too deluded to even understand what the public wants. Else they would've given them what they want and got drowned in shekels. But they haven't…

They don't even understand the source material. MoS or BvS, anyone?

I'm not entirely sure this is true. Maybe the conflicts are quite similar. But plots, not quite.

Disney may be the only one left that basically never bothers with stuff like Oscar bait

Exactly, MCU movies.

They actually think the public wants MoS and BvS. They're trying to appeal to dudebros that like movies that are "bad ass", the kind that get tattoos of the bat symbol from the dark knight movies and talk about how heat legend was a great joker. Basically, the people who like the nu52.

The stories are pretty much the same, loosely, except maybe the first thor movie and iron man 1. You can see how they're almost interchangeable at points.

This is a motion comic. That's just a series of panels arranged on a video timeline.

Fuck it, might as well storytime this

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The Inhumans have always struck me as being extremely pretentious. Every version of them has this holier than thou attitude that puts me off.

That's why they never actually caught on. They had a secret city for themselves and they focused on the adventures of the royal family. So yeah…

Meanwhile the X-Men are hated and feared.

When they get the film rights back to the X-Men.

And there's a 1% chance of that ever happening

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if they do, it's lowbrow and shit.

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This art was.. Really REALLY bad. Like every other panel they drop heavy shadows over the page with no sense for lightsource, like they are trying to do Mignola's style, but it comes off as lazy because of how sterile and digital everything else is.

Also, why the fuck are all the inhumans disgusting freaks in this version?

It's like mignolia's style mixed with photorealism.

And photorealism was god awful.

Thing is that Jae Lee did a much better illustrated Inhumans miniseries written by Paul Jenkins. He just followed the trend of all these photo-realistic artists in that his art just became too reliant on digital effects and is thus painful to look at.

This has been Marvel's biggest problem since Civil War.

I'd go back even farther, I'm pretty sure it's been Marvel's problem since at least Avengers: Disassembled..

The fact that they do it every year, multiple times in past years, and then force themselves back to the status quo, more or less, only drives sales farther and farther down.

It's why the movies make billions and the books struggle to break 500k total sales across a worldwide market.

A new fan picks up a book wanting to read about these cool characters doing cool shit and it's nothing but weird politicking, new characters they know nothing about in the spotlight, and all the old characters that people know and love are replaced by third stringers and nobodies because.. Diversity or some shit.

Give them a series with Game Of Thrones level intrigue & things might take off.

I'd level Antilla & have the Inhumans split into factions. Some would claim islands swamped by the rising Pacific Ocean. Others would claim abyssal areas Namor wouldn't deign to rule over. Antarctica is also an option. Have various houses feud with one another & drag all of Marvel into the fray.

I don't think so, there was some space between Disassembled and everything else, so much so that I'd even call it a big story arc.

The gap gets smaller every time, look at how soon they did new events with

They could still make the cosmic rays thing work. We still don't know what all is out there in space.

Fuck you! That show was awesome! Chuck McCann was awesome as The Thing!

This, I remember in the old movie, they had it be some kind of "cosmic ray storm".

The last time anyone gave a shit about The Inhumans was when they were shot into space and powered their way to the head of a huge cosmic war.

However, since the movies trump the comics these days (not to mention most if not all of this event has been retconned):


Last I checked they pulled Black Bolt out of a plothole, returned to earth for reasons, gave out the Terrigen mists like candy just to fuck with people, and Medusa is the sovereign while Bolt goes out to destroy parallel Earths with Tony Stark.