Women should not be allowed to vote

Women should not be allowed to vote.

This is written in the Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

All MEN are created equal. WOMEN are NOT created equal. Thus, no woman is on the same level as men. Some women are above men, some women are below men. In either case, the statement in the Declaration does not apply to them.

Women are NOT endowed by their Creator with unalienable Rights. They are NOT guaranteed Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Thus, they should NOT be guaranteed to take part in our political process. Women do not DESERVE to vote.

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Until recently, "man/men" was a sex-neutral term, referring to humans in general. That said, women should not be allowed to vote, for the reasons outlined in Against Woman Suffrage:

lewrockwell.com/1970/01/lysander-spooner/against-woman-suffrage/

You.. you lost me on that one user.

That's just some bullshit people came up with in the 60s to stave off the feminists. Everyone knows what they really mean when they write about "man".

But there are some women above men.

Ever heard of cuckolds?

But you said men, user.

The sooner you get used to saying Madam President, the better.

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OP is a faggot but I agree with him.

"Men" as in "Man" as in "Mankind".

A lick of lesbians

Women don't care about being fucked by the State since they're programmed to be beta bitches and let their husband control the resources.
The problem is when they use this eagerness to be subjugated, to subjugate others- that is by voting for a state which is huge, wasteful, and rapacious

agreed.

Allowing women to vote, gave them power to take over the work place.
This basically in less than 2 decades flooded a stable, competitive and high paying job market. With 50% more workers. Basically dropping the wages and increasing unemployment over night.

The aggregate effect would only be temporary. In the long run average wages almost certainly go up with a larger body of workers since people can be more specialised and you get better gains from scale.
Also way to just ignore all the work they did saving lives, educating people, and paying taxes

I'm a white man and I think only white and asian men are capable of holding the authority of humanity and morality, I'm not disenfranchising the natives of north america, these people are intelligent and were precluded from success largely due to their capacity to domesticate animals, we say their success under 100 years of systemic genocide and they were certainly intelligent enough to carry forth humanity's mantle. but south american natives the mongrels in south west asia all of africa and a few other native tribes to the pacific are not up to the task of carrying the mantle of humanity and I would consider them lesser humans.

These lesser humans are intelligent life, the are self aware, mostly, and I don't want to cause them suffering but them being in leadership roles in the world going forward brings me varying degrees of disgust and concern.

I believe it should be taken upon mankind to set up a disease that spreads via mosquitos like zika that paralyzes sperm cells. Whites and Asians will be able to afford to reproduce and the poor lesser humans wont. by the time we offer the cure there will be no women of reproductive age in Africa the mid east or among poor peoples.

As to women they are of lesser mind all about and their neurology lends itself to primal attitudes; they are like pigs, if kept in captivity they are truly domesticated but once set free into the wilds of the world they grow tusk and become wild hogs in a few short months.

Only white and asian men should have voting rights. No other demographic is consistently as intelligent as these two.

bullshit.

If you have 100 stock for a dollar. And you suddenly add another 100 stock. Your stock is worth 50 cents per stock now.

Same goes for the work force.

What kind of fucking pill are you swallowing?

adding 50% more workers to the same work force pool. Means employee's no longer need to compete for workers. And infact, wages go down. Or have you not noticed how single families can't make ends meet any longer. Yet in the 50's. A single man could raise not only a 3 to 4 child family (which was the normal child amount back then) but buy their home, and afford a car. And retire.

Have you not noticed in all countries they are increasing the age to retire. It's because the average family cannot retire any longer at the old standard age of retirement.

Hurr durr.

not to mention his wifes car, home insurance, pay for the kids college AND go on vacations with the family

BINGO

Allowing women to vote, and giving them force to join teh work force with equality of men. Have made the family nuclear unit, obsolete.

Hence why the rise in divorce rates.
Forclosures of homes
The lower salaries,
higher unemployment.

it was the single biggest mistake any society can do.

or what i think should be defacto

Democracy only works if you allow voting based on IQ.

As it stands, the stupids outnumber the intelligent. It's a genetic fact.

So as democracy stands. The politicians pander to the lowest common denominator.

Democracy will always fail if left this way.

Democracy and the right to vote should be IQ based.
You want your voters card. You must write an IQ test. Fail it, you don't vote. Pass it, and you get your voters card for life.
That way, the intelligent decide the fate of a country.

Not the stupids.

I wipe my ass with the Declaration of Independence

Adding workers to the pool raises the value of other workers, it doesn't diminish it.

Compensation has gone up for almost everyone even as people take more leisure time.

And your analysis is too simplistic.


It's possible some wages have gone down due to competition but only in limited sectors and they're dwarfed by everything else

you are delusional.

Its' a fact that the rate of inflation has outstripped the wages people make

Why the fuck do you think that is

It's because the over abundance of workers.

It's that simple.

Compensations has gone up for almost everyone LOL

because the cost of living is fucking sky rocketing.
Tell me why this inflation wasn't as bad in the 50's and 60's oh not so simplistic minded know it all.

yesbut it shouldn't be take it once and earn the rights forever
you should have to take an IQ test every time you vote
and politicians should also be required to take an IQ test at the beginning of each term, fail the test and they're out the door real fucking quick

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I once said to a guy that we erred giving women suffrage. He said, "No, we should never have given them shoes."

was he a muslim?

Almost everyone's wages have gone up.
Average wage hasn't gone up because of relatively unskilled women entering the workforce (and women just do less work in general). And because of changing demographics due to immigration and birth rates.
BUT if you look at white people only, or white households, or black households, you see the real gains due to technological advancement and capitalization.


It's true
Higher working population = more specialisation and gains from scale, thus higher average wages.
Your 'muh supply and demand' doesn't work because people spend the money they earn

more paper doesn't mean more money
the value of each dollar has dropped, you need more of them to buy the same ammount of stuff you could in the past

he doesn't understand that.

"inflation" escapes his grasp.

Never of these escape my grasp
You don't need to say 'adjusted for inflation XD' after every sentence if you don't want to

he also doesn't understand that "because of specialization" doesn't increase wages. When you fucking double the amount of people with a specialization.
The stupid fuck doesn't get it. And I am scratching my head trying to grasp his small minded concept of specialization.

Maybe he thinks women cannot join the same universities and same classes as their male counterparts

Or understand that modern society with women voting have stacked the odds against men, and the preference for jobs is for women in those roles. Which destroys the family unit. Economically and unilaterally.

*shrugs. Can't argue with stupid people.

If you take a global IQ curve the front of the curve down to the end is all white and asians, Everything in the rear or left part of the curve is what I describe as lesser humans.

I want to avoid violence simply because I know the horror of war isn't good for my race in the least and it will only harm our future. so to do this with a reproduction bottleneck that is not violent is the best choice but to restrict rights based on IQ leaves behind the masses of idiocy ready to rise and usurp power at any time and dash our mantle of power and responsibility upon the rocks.

For the security of mankind we can't simply require IQ as a standard of voting, action must be taken to eliminate the poor genetics.

I think gene modification comes into play at some point but so must eugenics and epigenetics.

The most important thing genetically speaking is intelligence the second is that which combines all ideas of beauty humanity beholds, power, strength perseverance and literal beauty.

All three factors are engaged in the pursuit of intelligence and beauty.

Gene modification will used to cure persistent diseases, genetic impurities, and to effect the appearance and intelligence of future children.

Eugenics is to be used to purge earth in a systematic and bloodless way through genetic science we can engineer a virus that effects the reproductive capacity of the lesser breeds of human male so that he can never push his seed onward without a significant amount of money which would likely denote his intelligence.

The use of knowledge of epigenetics should be evaluated in restructuring our society; we must remove pollutants from our air and water be they pharmaceuticals or simply runoffs of production like mercury in our water supply but further more we must stop intentionally poisoning the minds of our people with fluoridation and lithium through programs of neutering dissent among the masses.

Furthermore epigentics is concerned in the social order; it is bad for the health of our progeny that our women bare seed in dried wombs and pollute themselves with modern conveniences when pregnant. We must remove the woman's voting rights and of course offer her some compensatory rights of divorce in a youthful marriage, ideally a girl off 11 should begin seeking out a husband and at 4th grade we should divide our boys and girls in schools so that the girls may not have their minds clouded, virginity has proven to the greatest marker for a successful marriage and successful marriages have proven to be the greatest indicator alongside education of both men and women of a successful society.

A girl marries young and binds her self to her husband, they are taught family planning and they wait until she is finishing compulsory education, which must be improved, to begin having children, the man in this relation ship should have finished higher education of some sort before marrying.

simply the age of wives to husbands should be at youngest to oldest 11 to 35, this is the case of a doctor marrying a young girl though, by no means should society force these marriages but make them legal and show their virtues in birthing healthy children and creating a loving and wealthy environment. The more common age of such marriages would and should be 15 to 24 a teenage girl marrying a young man she may come to know him truly and he may know her in this time a considerable bond may be accessed and the female will have bonded to the male; the younger a girl is the more likely she is to bond firmly but the taking of the girls virginity is key along with her proper treatment.

Low productivity
Not much demand for their labour
Low wage for everyone

Highly productive
High demand for their labour
High wage for everyone

EVERYONE benefits with specialisation
This one of the earliest and most important insights in economics. Adam Smith tier

now double both, but you still only have enough money to pay 100 people

he 5733121 just doens't get it.

You can spoon feed this mother fucker, and he still won't open his fucking mind and get it.

*throws up hands in the air.

The fact that we have stated MULTIPLE times. Double the amount of workers. If he had half a brain he would also put together, that means double the amount of specialized people, yet still the same number of jobs.
Means less fucking pay.
Maybe he thinks employers aren't in business to make money, only in business as a fucking charity.
*shake my fucking head

nigger, Teal Deer
if you're too stupid to pass a test that lets you vote just fucking accept that you are too stupid to take part in deciding the future leaders for your nation

you don't exactly belong here either with all of your text emotes

Economic wealth when discussing females entering the market two factors need to be involved: fiat currency and production

With a fiat currency women entering the jobs market only creates a problem of labor devaluation in specific capacities, I'm not suggesting women be barred simply that we do not encourage them to enter the work force until after their children are raised or mostly so and that they pick better mates who can provide for them, in a few short years the wages will normalize to this reality.

As for production in america we are a low production nation and all of the unemployed men could fill the production jobs of women working to day with more men left over for new growth if it ever came.

65 years ago our economy did benefit from women in production but the contrary has been true since NAFTA.

i belong here, a hell of alot more than the idiot who believes "specialization" means more pay when you double the amount of workers with specializations. With the same amount of jobs.

You don't get it
The extra wages for workers comes from the increased output.
They don't have to be in it for charity. Extra specialisation means the workers are more valuable and so employers will together bid up the wage to reflect that.
And so the increased productivity comes to pay for the increased wage.

You are both wrong and fighting against basic economic consensus
So you can stop being arrogant.
People seem to think they know economics but they don't

OK, TLDR:

Passing IQ based voting laws isn't plausible stupids wont vote for it, if we forced it they would get violent and we still have the problem of niggers making babies that are just as dumb as they are.

Bottleneck the reproduction however and you can stem violence from stupid lower humans.

GUHHHHHHHHHHH

*bangs head against desk.

OH MY FUCKING GOD.

he just doesn’t get it.

*sobs. "he just doesn't get it"

I'll let you in on a little secret
nobody cares


that would require increased infrastructure, which costs money
you truly don't fucking get it
you can't just fucking double the workforce and expect to see the same increase in productivity and income
economics doesn't work like that, physical resources doesn't work like that
and you can stop pretending to be 2 different people

so it's better to let the stupids vote. And the nearest politician saying "if you vote for me, you get more welfare"

guess who's going to get elected. And guess what country will go bankrupt faster than you can say bankrupt.

Cause that in it's simplicity is what has been happening for the last 50 years.

And as far as voting it in, you don't.
You make your government mandate it in. And in the first year, you say "EVERYONE is allowed to write the test, see it's fair and democratic".
IT's not anyone's fault they are stupid.
And then the smarter ones decide the fate of a country.
harder to pander to smart people. They will have a higher percentage of "seeing through the bullshit".

Just sayin

they are fucking stupid, sell it the right way and they'll beg you to take away their right to even go to the fucking toilet without asking for permission

Complete autism


Holding infrastructure and capital stock fixed doesn't reflect reality. Of course wages would go down a little if they were fixed.
But in reality they aren't
There would be different infrastructure and more capital to reflect a bigger workforce.
The changes would come over time.
Women entered the workforce over time and wages rose. Just like the country's population rose rapidly at a time of increasing population- partly because of the increasing population.
And I think it's likely that women's presence in the workforce changed the economy in such a way that men's wages on average were higher than they would otherwise have been

I am done with this guy. Anyone else want to give it a shot?

"he thinks that job creation follows the amount of people in the work force" guess in his world there is no unemployment.

Okay smart ass, if your theory is right.
Remove all the women from the work force (except for secretaries and real women work like that)
What do you think happens to the salaries of those jobs? Huh?

But your saying the reverse can't happen.

Stopped reading at

Say you strip back all the laws then, you realize you have to have rules for murder right

So you need to have a set guideline, some people say murder should be death penalty, some say life imprisonment etc.

pretty soon you'll realize you need to set laws regarding theft too, the victims want the offender killed, but you realize that although it was their great grandmothers ashes, thats probably not the way to go

Eventually you realize businesses need laws too, embezzling and fraud and such need to be stopped

This has now become a lot to handle, so you decide to hire specially trained people to help you apprehend the criminals

You also realize that you don't have a real indepth knowledge of say construction places, businesses, hospitals, etc. So you decide to hire people to help advise you and give you all the information

You now have a government with a police force

Job creation exactly follows the number of people in the workforce.
It's true that in a free market there is no involuntary unemployment. If you're worth at least two cents to an employer, he'll pay you at least a cent.
Job creation is misleading, what matters is the wage rate and the wage rate follows productivity.
Productivity increases with a bigger workforce.

They no longer exist.
People produce and the production pays for their salary. No production no salary.

Imma agree with this guy, logical and dope

Trying to make me look like a samefag person because you lost

No, I'm a different guy. No production no salary is just logical…?

I don't know who's Jewing who any more

No jewry, I just saw that you were correct and was letting you know I agreed with you

What a pile of shit is the Declaration.

"Self Evident" that all men are created equal? REALLY? We're all equally tall, equally strong, equally smart?

And where's this "creator"? Not self-evident AT ALL unless you mean Mom.

They don't mean it in that way, they meant it in each man has the same intrinsic worth, just because you're born to the smiths instead of the johnsons doesn't mean you're worth less

That we have the same basic rights
As opposed to the English tradition of kings given more rights by God

Also your fedora is showing

wrong. The business's who cannot find employee's to produce will offer bigger wages.

Or let me guess, you will just say Ahh fuck it, im going to close my business and be unemployed. Give your head a shake, kid.

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That's a completely different salary though. There's no fixed pie of salaries which women are stealing from.
I'm not an expert but I think your example simply implies removing women from an area, and thus reducing production in that area to raise the amount of money going to producers in that area- which seems to improve welfare but actually doesn't.
It raises nominal wages but the price level is also higher.
Without women the whole economy would be different. Firms would be smaller and less efficient on average and men would be drawn from work they are good and specialised at to work they're less specialised at.
On average people would be less productive and wages would be lower.

wages would be higher

Because of supply and demand

No one wants to close their doors

So they would have to offer significant wage increases to keep their positioned filled if all women left the work place

it's as simple as that

Yes, some business's would fold. But that would mean more business for the business's left open.

Supply and demand.

But what you are saying is, increase the number of workers by 50% and business's will offer more for wage, because increased production. WRONG. It simply does not work that way.

or if you need an example
RIGHT NOW in canada. Electricians are in short supply.
So, they can command 200 dollars an hour
FLOOD the country with 50% more electricians. do you think for one fucking second. That the electricans will be able to ask for 200 dollars an hour any longer.

NO…because everyone's work load just fucking went down by 50%.
they will need to adjust their wage accordingly

amd I talking in a language you can understand now?

So now we will have smaller, less efficient firms. Some specialised jobs will no longer exist because the economy is smaller. Wages will go down.
Things will also be less efficient.
Like I said.

Yes wages can fall in line with prices in one industry. But people will eventually specialise more and differently because of the bigger economy.
Eventually total wages are higher and the price level is lower.

So now we will have smaller, less efficient firms. Some specialised jobs will no longer exist because the economy is smaller. Wages will go down.
Things will also be less efficient.
Like I said.

Yes wages can fall in line with prices in one industry. But people will eventually specialise more and differently because of the bigger economy.
Eventually total wages are higher and the price level is lower.