So this is the level of Bethesda's writing prowess

So this is the level of Bethesda's writing prowess..

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>>517539318youtube.com/watch?v=G8akM5pAlNg

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>>517539318Imagine waking up one day and deciding you’re going to make shit tier bait posts on Holla Forums. Go to the gym you loser

yep and they only added a voice acted mc out of pure laziness to skip put on meaningful dialogue in lieu of sarcasm

>>517539318No one plays fallout for the writing, retard

>>517539413fuck off todd

>>517539413lol typical bethesdrone faggotcan dish it out but can't take it

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>>517539674i hope you arent implying thats good writing.

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>>517539318Voiced protagonists are a mistake

>>517539897I think he is implying that you should kill yourself, retard.

>>517540061kek

>>517540061Really... Do go on.

>>517539318This really makes me yearn for quality Obsidian writing...oh wait...

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>>517539318bro youre like 5 years late to get upset over this

>>517539318How is that bad but Witcher 3"Kiss Triss""No kiss Triss" is different?How is that bad but Disco Elysium"Kill poor people""Kill rich people"is different?Have you even played Baldur's Gate and seen the dialogue options you have? Hell, have you tried any Dragon age? No matter what option you pick the answer is always the same, like in Telltale games.Also, this kill the New Vegas fags.

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>>517540613chris avellone shits all over Bethesda

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JUST ONE DIALOGUE OPTION LMAO.

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SUPPORT BOOBS?YesNo (Yes)Sarcastic YesYes, but let me see them first.

This kills Obsidian fags.

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This kills Obsidiano fagerinos.

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>all these recent anti-nv threads >instant deflecting to new vegasreally activates my almonds lmao

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>>517540915>>517541029>>517541141>>517541445>2018Bethesdrone butthurt over 76 confirmed.

>>517541646 lol definitely

Holy fuck he just keeps seething

>>517539318What the fuck Todd

I'll just drop this hereyoutube.com/watch?v=Bi51-wjcwp8

>>517540613>(SPEECH 100) If you're over here, you can't be over there!

>>517541478yeah as I said bethbabies can dish it out but can never take it

I truly feel sorry for anti Bethesda fags. They are miserable suicidal haters and won't be around in this world much longer.

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HEY COURIER, LOOKS LIKE IVE GOT ALL THE SOLDIERS![Speech 100] HEY LANIUS LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE DAM

>>517539318>>517539375youtube.com/watch?v=Scfv1phAJcw

>bethestards still but their all these years later that they can’t measure up to NV >so brand loyal to Todd’s brand of stink they eat up half finished games that just workLol every day

>>517540672>>517540915>bro youre like 10 years late to get upset over this

>>517542278>but theirdumb phoneposter

>>517542102at least it took 100 speech unlike >>517539674

>>517542390>implying this thread is worthy of me waddling to my pc with my fat greasy asshole to make a post Lol

imagine defending faillout 4

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>dude it’s like your responsibility ito just kys yourself to save the capitol wasteland >never mind the fact that I can easily survive the radiation

NO Lone Wanderer, I cannot go in there to turn on the water machine. Yes, in fact I'm immune to radiation. Also yes, Charon is a ghoul and is literally healed by radiation. But, no, we cannot. YOU must go in there and kill yourself because it is YOUR DESTINY.

>>517539318Still better then 76.

>>517542680>>517542952>3 has depth and stakes >4 has a personal motivation. >nv is just some wage cuck who cares about a job WOW

>>517542680>>517542952I don't think even devoted Bethesda fanboys can defend 3's ending.

>>517542092From the mouth of the children

>>517543180>>517543176kek

>>517543176>3 has depth

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>>517541646my fucking sides

>>517541646>76 damage control is nitpicking NV

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>>517540915Your autism is entertaining.

>>517540915those are all shit games, I agree play a man’s game, like DUSK

>>517541646It just shows how hard Bethesda has worked to deliver GOOD games

>>517540915>>517541029>>517541141>>517541445>same date

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>>517543949go to bed todd

>>517543949It just works... kek, that myth got blasted away with the launch of 76.

>>517540915what's wrong with this image?

>>517544312nothing it's autism

>>517539413S E E T H EEETHE

Never have I ever taken any user claiming that it’s “just one autist” because most of the time it’s bullshit and anons make the same shitposts. But this takes the cake.

>>517540061LOL

>>517540672Bro your like 1000000 threads late to get upset at someone getting upset at this

>>517539413>never once saw this style of post in all of the recent NV hate threads

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>>517544903Bro you’re about 10 years late and dollop short to be pointing out the obvious. But hey, it’s a doggy dog world.

fallout as a whole is mediocre at best.

what's with all the betheshitposting lately is someone really that upset over 76 that they needed to attack NV for several weeks

>>517545568It’s some underage retard upset with the reality that new pew pew loot and shoot , does not actually make a better game.

>>517542575Based

Fallout 3 had the best writing. :3

>>517542952>NO Lone Wanderer, I cannot go in there to turn on the water machine. Yes, in fact I'm immune to radiation. Also yes, Charon is a ghoul and is literally healed by radiation. But, no, we cannot. YOU must go in there and kill yourself because it is YOUR DESTINY.What is broken steel?

>>517546278>He has to pay for the characters to not act like total retards

>>517544056I like new Vegas but he is funny for making you retards upset. Why do you all feel the need to seriously argue with someone fucking with you? That is so autistic. Just laugh and move along niggas

>>517546278Buy my dlc so your pc doesn't kill himself

>>517546378I live vicariously through calling people who don’t like games I like stupid

>>517546278>what is broken steelA retcon dlc to address a stupid story plot

>>517539318Boobs?‘Ate boobsLuv boobsShow me

>>517546351>Oh noooooo I have to payy for all this awesome content and new quests, armors, locations, and weapons. Noooooo I’m getting all this great content for the game I love but I have to pay 15 whole DOLLARS! Noooooo they even fixed the story and extended it but I have to payyy whyyyBased retard

>>517546604HATE. NEWSPAPER

>>517546604Obshitian fag desperately trying to deflect criticism from his baby. P A T H E T I C!

>>517546648Still doesn't make the ending of 3 less shit.

>>517546753‘Ate Bethesda, Ate Fallout 4, luv Vegas, simple as

>>517539318You are coming back to tell them that you dealt with the thing they asked you to deal with.what is the problem

How to trigger bethesdrones with one simple sentence>beyond the beef

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>>517547095I don’t ged id?

>>517539318>Do you work for the casinos?>Yes>Speech 30:No

>>517547095>Softlocks

>>517548530Buggy NV quests are better than perfectly working 4 quests

>>517546803For you

>>517548703Was getting caught all a part of your master plan?

FO4 is one of those games that you don't need to play to understand that it's a bad game.Fuck BethesdaFuck ToddAnd fuck zoomers.

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>>517549147?

>>517546278A shit DLC that epitomizes Bethesda's lack of artistic integrity in their own game.Fallout 3 had a lot of problems, but the finality of its ending wasn't one of them. Fallout 1 and NV also had complete endings with no free roaming afterwards, but it didn't hurt the experience at all.

>>517549560it isn't a bad game though?it isn't as good as it probably should be and it has some dumb shit in it but it's still a fine game.

>>517549961It’s mediocre.

>>517549961>it isn't as good as it probably should be and it has some dumb shit in it but it's still a fine game.Constantly lowering the bar with dumb copes and rationalizations like "it could have been worse" is why developers can get away with releasing more shitty games each year.If a developer doesn't deliver an impeccable product, then the response shouldn't be 'it could have been worse'. The response should be "do better".

>>517539318>>517539318Is that a the mod that shows you what each option will actually do? Wtf?

>>517550150I mean I don't know what you want me to do. I bought it when it was 75% off. I got a lot of hours out of it even though it was mediocre. I want them to do better as well. We're on the same team, you're just higher level.>>517550006I agree. But I don't think mediocre is bad.

>>517539318Imp v Stormcloak is the power of Bethesda's writing.

>>517550239One of the first mods put out after release

>>517544312You mean aside from whatever horrible graphics mod he's using?

>>517549961The gameplay and world design are very solidShame about the writing/quest design, the most important things in an RPG

>>517550478true, they dropped the ball hard on the narrative and it's a fucking shame.

>>517549961No, it's a shitty attempt at a Fallout game. Period. No question marks here.People need to fucking stop giving Bethesda a free pass for being lazy shitters, and in the same breath Obsidian should've be given one for making a shitty game like Outer Worlds either.

>>517550349>I want them to do better as well. We're on the same team, you're just higher level.If you really want them to do better, you shouldn't say things like "it could have been worse". All it does is reinforce the mindset that there is no need to improve, learn, or reform.

>>517546648>unironically shilling for dlcKill yourself, but unironically

>>517550609I don’t think outer worlds was ever really praised.

>People actually defend FO4's gameplay>The game with zero difficulty curve and automatic recoil compensationYou faggots don't even play video games

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>>517550609>should'veshouldn't*

>>517550715but I didn't say that although some other user in this thread might've.i don't believe that either. i need to do some research into 76 to see how it's turned out.

>>517544056Oh no, I finished Fallout NV in a single day, HOW DARE I!? HOW DAREEEE II!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!11111

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>>517550928don't forget how laughably unthreatening deathclaws are

>>517550775Bethesda fans still live in this weird fever dream or dimension where Obsidian's games are showered with 9.5/10 - 10/10 ratings from all the major reviewers and publications and gets undeserved GOTY awards or some shit.NV got like 6,7, and 8 out of 10 ratings. Same for TOW.Meanwhile in reality, mediocre games like FO3 and Skyrim get 10/10 ratings all across the board and are undeservedly lavished with GOTYs like there's no tomorrow.

Watching fallout fags argue over who's fallout is better is like watching a bunch of retards eating shit off the ground arguing which taste best

>>517551015Calm down sperg we are done with you amusing us.

>>517550478>gameplayKill, loot, return. Over and over.>world design4 is barren with copy-pasted raider dungeons and unoriginal settlements replacing actual interesting locations and NPCs to interact with

>>517551048That's bullshit, you never played in Survival mode then, hell, you never played it at all. In previous games Deathclaws are a poorly modeled poorly AI shitty reptile. In Fallout 4 they actually feel like a threat.

>>517551048People on the west coast struggle with deathclaws.People on the east coast keep them as pets.

>>517551048I must've got some good mods because I routinely get fucked by deathclaws. they one shot me (in my power armor) and I can't hear them coming most of the time.

>>517551202They’re so threatening that you kill one in the first hour of gameplay.Kill yourself, avatarfag.

>>517551153Obsidian fags are all suicides waiting to happen. Can't wait for all of you to die so Fallout 4 threads can stop being filled with haters.It's like Taylor Swift says.>'Cause the players gonna play, play, play, play, play>And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate>Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake>I shake it off, I shake it off

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>>517541830youtube.com/watch?v=Xa5IzHhAdi4

>>517551136that's a pretty rude thing to say, to be honest. the fallout series is overall very good.

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>>517551382No it isn't

>>517551290After getting a minigun and a power armor, you mongolian retard. Oh, right, you're the kind of autistic gamer that cares about level and thinks "no no, despite level being a meta thing, it's part of the lore! I do get XP every time I kill stuff haha that's part of the story!"Kill yourselfie retardelfie.

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Could fallout 76 have been good if it wasn't multi-player and it was actually finished? "Fallout in Appalachia" is just a really based concept on its own, It seems like it could have been awesome if they hadn't chosen profit over everything else 99% of the time.

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>>517550928I mean it's more polished and fun than 3 or New Vegas' combatUnless you think no iron sights, choppy animations, and VATS spam is somehow better? Did it have more SOUL or something?

>>517551315If fallout 4 was a decent game, it wouldn't get all this hate.

>>517551468Wow, you used console commands, good for you.

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>>517551543well I don't know why you think that. which games do you think aren't any good and why?

>>517550478The world design is godawful what are you smoking?

>>5175513156/10. You’ll do a good job of convincing underage retards they have opinions of worth.

>>517551554Killed him with a bbg, he cant enter doors, bugthesda can't make games.

>>517551554Are you mentally ill?

>>517551554imagine defending getting power armor after 20 minutes into the game.imagine defending having no level cap and maxing out your SPECIAL by just gaining XP.

>>517551652The only people who hate it are obsidian fags. Fallout 4 is a good and extremely fun game, if you don't like it, don't play it. Imagine making your life revolve around stuff you hate.

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>>517551015take your meds

>>517551590It doesn't have enough content to make it fun in singleplayer. No looty shooty is fun in singleplayer.

>>517551606The combat is more fun than 3 and NV, definetely, but it ruins it by having the same gameplay loop over and over again with far fewer interesting landmarks (like fallout 3) or interesting main quest that affects everything in the world (like NV). In Fallout 3, its just more fun to wander and find stuff, there are little things you wouldn't expect. In New Vegas, the story touches everything and it feels like the world is really coherent. Fallout 4 has neither. It just has the same loop of going to a shitty building, killing everything, looting, then going back to your base, then repeating.

>>517551774Wow, you cheated and used bugs to kill an enemy, how pathetic, you might as well open console command and type "killall". Fucking noob. "Hah, I exploited a bug! now I can say how the game is bad! i am very smort!".Fallout 4 haters will get cancer and die.

>>517551202yes I have and they're still a joketheir speed and ai is another laughable aspect

>>517551887It is okay, but a giant step backwards compaired to previous fallout games. Only the combat was an improvement.

>>517544792it's literally one sperg lashing out at nv while defending 4really not that hard to believe tbqh

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>>517551708in what way?

>>517551884>imagine defending getting power armor after 20 minutes into the game.What's the problem with that? Ohhh noeee, it should be an end game reward?? Ohhh poor little baby wanted an orgasm and a power armor after finishing the main quest?Imagine seething because you get a power armor so early, specially in the only game having a power armor actually feels good and is not just shitty metal attached to your skin that doesn't make you slower or helps on anything.

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>>517551990There is an open door right next to where he spawns. You walking and he begins to flip out not knowing where you are. This isn't cheating, this is bad game design.

>>517540061top fucking kek

>>517551606The combat in 4 is better than in NV, but they did drop some cool features from the last game, like multiple ammo types and different special attacks for unarmed combat, also most perks in fallout 4 are boring and I really think that conversations are an important part of a rpg's gameplay

what are some other RPGs with quests like >>517547095 ?I recently tried FO4 again so I don't feel like replaying NV yet.

>>517552110Show me in the doll where people not joining your circle jerk of hate hurts you.Imagine being so pathetic not only do you obsess over stuff you hate, but get mad when other people don't hate it too. Worst part, you probably only hate it because you were told to hate it, most people in Holla Forums didn't even play it.

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>>517551887Stop getting ass blasted because anons rebut your shit opinion. That’s more of a problem for (you) to get over, not the other way around

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>>517552128How empty it is. There’s little but dungeons to clear out

>>517551887Even the most die-hard Fallout youtubers like mrmattyplays or juicehead have admitted that 4 is a step down from nv. You're mentally ill

>>517552351>you didn't even play it lmaothis is when you know a fanboy is backed up into a corner

>>517552164The game already is piss easy. Giving a full power armor from the start, makes half the power armor you might find worthless. Thankfully i played it on pc and modded that shit so it only spawns the frame.Only someone on Holla Forums can defend giving a power armor in the first 20 min, fucking retard.

>>517551176>gameplayI guess I mean mechanics, combat is much better than the other games and there's a lot of QoL improvements like sprinting>world designI had fun exploring Boston sorry you didn'tThere was a good variety of environments across the map and interesting locations like the U.S.S. Constitution

>>517552186> Hah! It's Bethesda's fault for letting me go into this house with the open door! They shouldn't have allowed me to do that! Do you even listen to yourself? You're a complete and utter retard, fucked in the head, YOU GO INSIDE THAT HOUSE BY YOURSELF and you blame Bethesda for it? You could have fought the deathclaw right in the open. You exploited a bug and you pretend it's their fault and not yours. Kill yourself.

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>>517552469This bug is in New Vegas too

>>517539413seething

>>517552338Fallout 1 and 2

>>517552351>every post should only be a circle jerk sucking off things I like or what anons like If I wanted to waste time with retards beneath me I’d post on twatter plebbit, resetgender or some other lesser shithole.

>it takes severe autism to defend horrendous games like Fallout 4 and Final Fantasy XV

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>>517552490i'm not sure i understand what you're getting at. there's lots of quest locations, settlements, towns, things like that. there are plenty of unmarked areas too. mostly just shacks and such but it's out there.what kinds of things would you like to see more of?

>>517552534Pretty much

>>517552542Good for you that you used mods to make your game less enjoyable, I also like to torture myself for attention on Holla Forums so I can pretend i'm some sort of boomer that likes hard games.Remember nobody thinks better of you because you used mods to remove a power armor, stop seeking attention so bad.

>>517552351>didn’t play it But that’s wrong retard. The only other thing Bethesda got right was returning the brotherhood back to form. Which was funny when secondaries got upset about seeing a lore accurate version of them.

>>517552596that post didn't bring up New Vegas at all, user...

>>517552578How exactly do you enjoy killing raiders in old buildings over and over again? That is the extent of 4’s world design. New Vegas has a more interesting world to explore because there’s more than 3 settlements

>>517552534But it's the truth. People who hate it know nothing about the plot or gameplay. Hell, the people who hate it didn't even touch NV.You all just want attention and feel like you belong, "oh oh... i was told to hate F4 and love new vegas! so that's what i have to do!". Then you guys wonder why you're all depressed and suicidal, look at yourselves.

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>>517552848It's in Fallout 3 too if that makes your weenie feel better

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>>517539413Fuck off to your containment thread on /vg/

>>517552512> Holla Forums hates e-celebs> E-except when they agree wi-with me!!111!Pathetic. Those nobodies are literally that, nobodies. Even F3 sold better than NV, nobody likes your shitty cowboy fantasy. Go play Outer Worlds and help dyke parvatti get a girlfriend, Obsifag.

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>>517552849agreed. they should have created raider factions. even if it's a small thing, it makes a big impact.they kinda added it in nuka-world but it's stuck in the dlc.

>>517552584Yes i blame bethesda for bad game design. It isn't as if i jump on some wierd ledge or something. I just walked into a house next to where he spawns. He immediately starts sperging out, more bad game design. This isn't a bug, or an exploit. This is bad game design.

>>517552687>settlements, townsA grand total of 3.>bunker hill>diamond city>goodneighborCompare to NV>Freeside>Strip>Goodsprings>Novac>Primm>WestsideNot even counting the faction locations like Camp Golf and Cottonwood Cove

>>517552862The only mentally ill fag here is you, why are you projecting? Everyone else here is just shitposting, you're the only one here who seems to have a stake in this argument you obsessed faggot

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>>517540915Poor Arcade.

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>>517552663>If I wanted to waste time with retards beneath me I’d post on twatter plebbit, resetgender or some other lesser shithole.You're in Holla Forums buddy, 90% of the shit here is anime or coomer crap. Dunno why are you pretending you're in good or elitist company. Grow up.

>>517539318Test

>>517553045Freeside and the Strip aren't really settlements

>>517540915Holy retard

>>517552943didn't bring up Fallout 3 either

>>517552739Lol, keep seething. Putting that armor there was bad game design, we all know it. There was nothing fun about it. Dont get me wrong, i like how they implemented power armor in 4. But that shit right there was complete bullshit and was pretty game ruining.

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>>517553190They are, what are you on?

>>517552849The dungeons were different enough from each other at least aesthetically and there's a good variety of enemiesIt's nowhere near as bad as Skyrim's dungeonsThe gameplay loop is just fun, it's the only enjoyable thing about the game when the writing is so fucked

>>517553045Nuka World, The Institute, Far Harbor, Acadia, Vault 81...There's no reason to be disingenuous. Also Give NV the Ranger Outpost and add it's DLC towns as well.They're comparable. When you add in the Settlements you can make, f4 goes way beyond though.

>>517553183did it work?

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>>517553024> I walk into a house> It's Bethesda faultOk, you're a troll, bye felicia.

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>>517553121>get a load of this fag cam.mk4

>>517553240Nobody lives there it's all vendors and services apart from Vault 22 and it's just a motel not a settlementEveryone living in Vegas doesn't live in Freeside or the Strip

>>517553074> Hah! I am literaly not cutting myself because it hurts me how successful Fallout 4 is and how everyone but us sad losers love it, I am just shit posting!!!11!Right, the good ol "pretending to be retarded", try again girl.

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>>517553190The strip is definitely a settlement, what else is it?

>>517553121Oh you really are doubling down on being a retard who thought they were in good company. You think it be like it is, but it do.

>>517553552A Strip

>>517553235Right, stay mad over the fact they give you power armor at the beginning and not at the end, keep seething or something. A shame Bethesda didn't hire a suicidal loser like you to tell them what "good game design" is, I'm sure someone who will be dead by 2021 knows a lot about good vidya design.

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>>517553501>resorting to normalfag 3DPD shitposting It’s okay lil user, we accept your concession

>>517553306>When you add in the Settlements you can makeBut who has any time for that, shit UI to build anything, and needs mods to be remotely fun.

>>517553456The casino factions definitely stay in their own hotels, or at least the leaders doBenny had a room in the Tops

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>>517553306>DLC>Radiant quest spam that you don’t even get to unless you complete the horrendous first and second acts >DLC>DLC>There's no reason to be disingenuousI want to kill whoever introduced this word into the popular lexicon because no one knows what it fucking means>When you add in the Settlements you can make, f4 goes way beyond though.You’re a fucking idiot. 4’s settlements are copy and pasted uninteresting shitholes that have nothing to do other than accept Skinner box quests

>>517553456Freeside has lots of missions and merchants tho, the strip is the one that is barebones

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>>517539484I don't understand that though. Surely it would have been easier to have a silent protagonist

>>517553762fair enough I guess

>>517553362You keep saying that as if it means anything. Yes walked into a house that is meant to be walked in, game broke instantly. Bethesda's fault.

>>517552164It does make you slower though

>Why have I spent the past few years sowing chaos, attacking and disrupting governments, replacing people with synths who are capable of making decisions while also degrading synths as being non-sentient machines? You wouldn't understand, it's too complicatedwoah..

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>>517553784Diamond City makes the strip look like an entire game in itself

>>517553838Nobody likes silent protagonists. It makes main characters completely unrelatable and empty. Look at Outer Worlds, who tf can relate to that shitty protagonist with no voice?It's only kids pretending to be those elitist boomers "old good, new bad" who complain.They are no different from 13 years old saying AC/DC is the best shit ever and they were born in the wrong generation, go get a nirvana shirt retards.

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>>517539318imagine derailing an entire thread because you have no arguments. this is your brain on Bethesda.

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>>517553294>The dungeons were different enough from each other at least aesthetically and there's a good variety of enemiesHoly Crap, instead of raiders to kill it’s Super Mutants!

>>517542628MVQ his official height has changed finally from Google

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>>517539897okay, write something better. Go on.

>>517539318yeah it's pretty bad

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>>517553659Hiring me would only have done the game good. It is prettt difficult to make that game worse. But you are clearly not old enough to post here, so maybe it is bed time for you?

>>517553991Sshhhh it’s okay little baby, you’re okay little baby. Your parents are scared of you and worried for you

>>517554126That’s not how it works retard.

>>517554168Stop giving them (you)s

>>517553991Genuinely can't tell if this is bait. If it is, well done.

>>517554141OHH BUT THEN THE GHOULS THEY'RE JUST HUNGRY BUT LIVE FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER WITHOUT FOOD OR OXYGEN OR WATER EXCEPT WHEN THEY'RE KILLED BECAUSE I HAVE NO EVIDENCE TO SAY OTHERWISE

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>>517553769You not liking the Institute doesn't mean it's not a settlement or town. I also didn't include the Railroad. And then I said to include NV's DLCs as well.And he was being disingenuous, as it's definition, he was being insincere about the towns to prove a point.>You’re a fucking idiotAnd you're very rude. You not wanting to make something more than a copy pasted shithole isn't my fault.

>>517554078And synths, and security robots, and Gunners, and ghouls, and wildlife...I'm not saying it's amazing, but was New Vegas really lightyears ahead in enemy variety? Not really if you're just looking at the base game

>>517554271that's not how it works for you, because you're all bark and no bite.

>>517554584New Vegas had more to do than kill enemies.

Holy fuckITT NuVegas fags seething hard

>>517553991I can relate to gordon freeman quite profoundly

>>517552862>But it's the truthNah, go fuck yourself. It's only a playable timesink with very excessive modding. The vanilla game is absolute dogshit.

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>>517550609>>517551127the outer worlds was made by an entirely different team than any FO games. BI is gone, most of Obsidian that made NV is gone. outer worlds was a cash grab attempt from "THE ORIGINAL MAKERS OF FALLOUT".

>>517541029>>517541141>>517541445its over, Obsidian is finished.

>>517552862I love how it's only a bohoo matter for you now, when you're most likely the one making all the recent anti-NV threads. Autism is a helluva drug.

>>517554798well luckily you bought a game on an easily modded platform from a company that is literally famous for the modability of their games, ya?

>>517554798This is the average Bethesda hater.Wastes lots of money on them.Spends the entire day playing and modding their gamesComes to Holla Forums to talk about how much they hate it and joke about Todd Howard.Top fucking kek, how are you different from racists who watch blacked? or alt right nazis who love being cucked? God you guys are a fucking walking joke.I'm a huge bethesda shill and I don't have 300 hours in F4.

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>>517554654Yeah and New Vegas is good at conversations and skill checksFallout 4 is good at combat

>>517540613The only thing that bothers me about this, is that charisma should have more of an impact, it should require your character to be "skilled" in speaking but also to be charismatic as fuckthe S.P.E.C.I.A.L stats all have an impact on both combat and dialogue, but CHR does fuck allyou shouldn't be able to (or at least you should be required to do other things before) pass this speech check with 1 CHR, it doesn't make any sense role-playing wisesame goes for FO3 with telling the president to kill himself, but FO3 also uses a % chance system, so I guess you'd have to factor in both speech and CHR into that dice-roll

>>517554968Awww it hurts you when people say that New Vegas is shit? Because, guess what, is pure pure pure PURE shit, the companions are awful, the plot is ridiculous, the protagonist is forced into a shitty courier role and given a backstory, the DLCs are lame AF and one of them is literally "haha penis joke", Mr House is an overrated retard who appears in the game for like 10 minutes and the gunplay is the worst of any game EVER MADE. How tf Holla Forums, the place that hates cutscenes and game movies and loves gameplay, is ok with how guns work in NV? BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING SHIT, UNBERABLE, FUCKING FUCKING CRAP.I'd rather die than having to shoot something in NV again.

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>>517554468>You not wanting to make something more than a copy pasted shithole isn't my fault.Show me all the interesting quests and NPCs you can find in player created settlements in 4

>>517552862holy fuck you're reaching hard to defend this universally shunned game

>>517555040CHR modified your Speech skill in Fo3, which increased the %%% chance. In that regard, it was a better designed system (except for being unable to get max chance on some checks).

>>517555012I don't hate Bethesda you autistic fuck. I just said 4 at it's core is a weak game that needs to be heavily modded to be enjoyable.

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>>517555259>reloading over and over so an immortal child will let you kill shoehorned super mutants

>>517555220There was a clear distinction between the two, which is why I put them in separate paragraphs. Now it is you that is being disingenuous.

Anons, I think we broke him. He’s ranting about things that don’t even matter and have no relevance to this board or site. Truly bizarre. Rest in peas user kun.

>>517544792I would generally believe this sentiment but in this particular thread it's literally just one autist, the one posting screenshots and normie reaction gifs farming (you)s. Stop replying to them you fucks you're giving them what you want

>>517555369You don’t know what “disingenuous” means, do you?

>>517555012>I'm a huge bethesda shillwow you don't fucking say>>517555212you're the only one crying here though bethesda shill

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>>517555387I don't know when, maybe around 2014-2015, but that's when I first remember legitimate autists like this going off becoming the norm.

>>517555224Nobody hates F4 but you retards. It's literally the best Fallout game out there, 1 and 2 are unplayable, 3 is good but nothing special, NV is barely a fallout game. So keep seething and I'll keep enjoying Fallout 4, which has an awesome gunplay unlike NV.

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>>517555365true, but that was your choice.>>517555475I am pretty sure that you don't. Unless you're just being silly on purpose.

>>517553892why did they build up the institutes motives as the big mystery of the plot and then never explain what the institutes motives were

>>517555012>autist isn't aware that's he's the unhinged one classic

>>517555502>wow you don't fucking sayWanna hear something else? I have never EVER bought a Bethesda game. Not a single one. Have like 9999999 hours on Skyrim because I pirated it over and over and over since 2011. I never buy games and I got Fallout 76 as a gift, how do you like em apples?

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>>517555608>1 and 2 are unplayable>NV is barely a fallout gamekek

>>517552164I LIKE HOW IN FO4 YOU CANT USE UNARMED WEAPONS WITH POWER ARMOR ITS HEAPS FUN AND VERY ENGAGING FOR MY PLAYSTYLEOH WAIT NO ITS VERY LIMITING

>>517555602>actually thinking anons were autistic virgins was a meme user, I don’t know what to tell you. That’s always been a reality

>>517555608alrighty sweetiedon't forget your meds

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>>517555259I didn't know this, thanks user.I really wish NV would've done something similar with combining speech and CHR, maybe requiring you to do something (small) for the person if you lacked the CHR but had the speech, however, considering how cumbersome that would've been to implement, and the deadline, I understand it not being more than CHR modifying speech and barter.

>>517555698the institutes motives were to replace "people" with "synths". did you not understand that?synths are healthier, stronger, smarter, they are better than people. synths wouldn't destroy the world again.

>>517555698Because it was too complex or wouldn't sound right put to paper. >we do things>why?>because we canIt's the easy way out

>>517552943>its been a bug for 10 years that means its fineok sure it totally doesn't reaffirm that bethesda is not competent

based shitposter making obsidrones seethe

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>>517555719>autist doesn't have a job and most likely lives with mommy punching the walls everyday I'm shocked.

>>517554141Whoever did that fridge quest was a fucking idiot. I just ignore the brat.

>>517555719And just to rub salt in the wound of Fallout 4 hates, my boyfriend gave me this a few years ago.

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>>517555765>UNARMED WEAPONS WITH POWER ARMORBRO LET ME PUT A BOXING GLOVE OVER THIS EXOSUIT AND LET ME SCREW A POWER FIST ON THE SIDE LMAO.>but where is muh PA training?>its just a regular armour lmao

This autistic sperg is as pathetic as pipe weapons.

>>517555975post bucci

>>517555917It's really sad that you have to do thatI mean I know you're autistic but damn

>>517555839But they're not transhumanists they don't think synths are capable of free will or want them to replace humanity they just use them as slaves

>>517555975>t. pozzed

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>>517555719ahh yes, the I've never even bought a single game dfenseclassic shitposter tactic when they are backed into a corner and "you didn't" play it" doesn't work

>>517539318Giving the protagonist a voice was the worst fucking decision they could have made

>>517555839>the institutes motives were to replace "people" with "synths". did you not understand that?Then why do they spend the entire game shitting on synths and saying that they're just unthinking machines with no free will and that justifies the institute enslaving them?

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>>517555839>FO1's plot but again, bladerunner editionThat's not the worst thing in the world but don't they see the synths as less than human?I'm also certain they never actually tell you this, which is dumb because this is an incredibly straight forward motive.

>>517552669What is it with autists and liking awful games?

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>>517555874>it was too complexHow?

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>>517539318he's singing a blues song, don't be intentionally dense

>>517556252yikes

>>517556281But user think about the mass appeal! It's like Bioware games, people used to love those right?

>>517555985Power fists were concurrent tech with power armor, there is no reason they couldn't be used while wearing it. In fact, the best way to make a h2h build viable was to wear power armor. This is an example of Bethesda not thinking very hard and just going "we don't want to work out how power fists+power armor would work visually so we just won't let the player do it".

>>517556414They get fixated on a single thing, good or bad, they can't tell.

>>517540613People like to shitpost about this but it makes sense.

>>517556475

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>>517556475Based and Robert Johnson-pilled

>>517556282you might not have been paying attention to the plot. i know it wasn't extremely engaging, but you've got a quite inaccurate view of the events there.

>only aspect to gamepplay is gunplayI fucking hate this mindset.

>>517556846I understand that they replace people with Synths, I'm asking what's the point with their end-goal of replacing people with Synths since in their view they might as well just be killing humans and replacing them with toasters? They clearly don't have this big love of synthkind since they don't think they're capable of having "free will"

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>>517557134It’s actual underage retards and tourists from lesser shitholes. Like real children and retards, you just have to pretend they have merit.

>>517557134It is the only aspect that improved.

>>517556691Not sure what everyone else's problem was but it felt very anticlimactic and out of character for Lanius to just accept your argument and turn around right as he's about to conquer the dam he's been fighting for for yearsThe fact Lanius is even talking to you at all instead of rushing to murder you ASAP is retarded

>>517557209I'm assuming the main idea is for shaun and his cabal to get made into high tech synths who would lord over the "lesser synths". Hence the improvements they make each generation.Again, this is just context clues but it makes sense to me.

>>517546648Defending a dlc that KINDA fix something, fuck off

>>517557653Lanius isn't a caveman who goes UNGA SMASH, he's just brutal in his actions

>>517539674>you're an abortion of science. you need to diewhat did the lone wanderer mean by this

>>517556475

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>>517551606I absolutely agree.It's still the worst FPS on the market, if not in the genre's history.Comparing games to their own franchise is arbitrary as fuck. The Nintendo mentality.

>>517557717Shaun literally dies at the end naturally though and mentions multiple times that synths are just simulacrums of humans and he believes that they don't posses true free will >It's a synth, not a human being. A simulacrum. Try to be more open-minded. >However closely they may approximate human behavior, they are still our creations.>This... "Railroad." Willing to sacrifice humans for the sake of synths. Think about that for a moment>These people are zealots. They have continually shown no regard for human life, in their bizarre crusade to "free" synthsAlso Shaun doesn't mention at all the idea of uploading his mind into a synth, the only time this happens is in Curie's quest, right? Shaun consistently looks down upon the idea of Synths being humans and possessing humanity and even when he's on his death bed he still doesn't do anything like Curie does.

>>517557717That's just your headcanon to try to make it more believable

>>517558224All of what you said is true. Perhaps Shaun made his own vision (of creating slaves for the wasteland) and he was at peace with that.It's difficult to get around the poor writing to see what they wanted. Like I said, all I have is the bits and pieces so I was just trying to fit them together.>>517558301Yes good job. Thank you. The game doesn't explain itself so I'm trying to come up with reasonable ideas, you found me out.

>>517539375Can't they just make exact same robot again? Why even bother sacrificing people for them? I mean holy fuck just have sex and make more kids. What's the fucking point of spending so much time and resources to just make useless fucking clones that are pretty much exactly the same as shitty people but only live longer? Am I retarded? Is Todd with his tolerance lessons and Blade Runner references smarter than me? So many questions.

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>>517558537I'm just saying you're wasting a lot of brainpower doing the writer's work for them

Imagine joining the Legion and all they give you is some football pads and a stick LMAO

>>517558615They can make a bunch of the same synth but for some reason when they replicate someone, they only replicate the one. Can they make more of that copy? I don't recall if they say anything about it in any of the terminals around the Institute.>Am I retarded?No user, you aren't. It's poorly written AND intentionally vague. They really don't explain much of anything directly.>>517558795Oh that's okay man, I'm just having a conversation while watching some youtube. I'm glad there are anons actually talking with me instead of just calling me stupid.

>>517558537>Shaun made his own vision (of creating slaves for the wasteland) and he was at peace with that.But even then it's still intensely fucking stupid to the point of absurdity, why would you create sentient or quasi-sentient machines capable of feeling things that humans feel only to have them do labour, when the Fallout Universe has had AI and machines not only capable of doing labor, but actually enjoying labor and finding purpose in it, specifically being designed around the idea of doing labor and being equipped with the tools for it. Instead of getting a weak synthetic human that has all the pitfalls of humans in being weak and putting them through mental stress, they could just start producing robots that do the jobs more efficiently and much better. The institute is such a mindbogglingly fucking retarded faction in literally every conceivable way, it's ironic that they're meant to be the smartest faction with the most technology descended from scientists who have done nothing but spend the past few hundred years focusing on science.

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>>517556140do what? laugh at the obscene amount of butthurt ITT?

>>517559002>when the Fallout Universe has had AI and machines not only capable of doing labor, but actually enjoying labor and finding purpose in it, specifically being designed around the idea of doing labor and being equipped with the tools for ithaha holy shit, I completely forgot about that.yeah, it's so bad that it makes me wonder what they were TRYING to do with it.

>>517551606there's more to gameplay than shooting you fucking zoomeryou don't improve gunplay then gut the rpg mechanic

>>517557653Lanius can command armies and knows strategy, he isn't a fucking domehead, he just outbrutalizes everyone in the Legion along with his imposing size and differing backstory on how he joined the Legion's fold. Caesar definitely plays him up to a mythical degree which he knows to use to his advantage.

>>517559212>Caesar definitely plays him up to a mythical degreeAnd gets free advertising from Mr. New Vegas, scaring the fuck out of everyone listening to him.

>>517540915I don't get it.

>>517559331That's part of it yes. Lanius is a more interesting Frank Horrigan if you ask me.

>>517559498It's close, but I agree. You get to see Horrigan do some damage and that's a big help but Lanius has a much more developed presence in the world.

Did it make sense for Ulysses to have the SPECIAL stats that he did?

>>517559002>>517559104The best part is that they came up with a bunch of convoluted ways of circumventing the fact that the Synths have free will by installing specific chips in their brain that wipes their memory if they escape or whatever. They're specifically creating machines for the purpose of sweeping their floors and have multiple failsafes and divisions designed to catch their floor-sweepers in case they run away, and not a single person in the institute stopped to question "Hey, why don't we just use those robots that will sweep our floors for us until the end of time and that requires no maintenance and don't suffer?"

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>>517559212I'm not saying he's a domehead but the Courier is an enemy, the greatest enemy Lanius has who did so much damage to the Legion(especially if they killed Caesar)Lanius' priority should be to kill the Courier as fast as possible, not waste words with him over long term military strategyOr does Lanius usually negotiate with enemy commanders on the battlefield?

>>517559757He had austistic tendencies akin to that of a savant.

>>517559425it's severe autismnothing to get here

>>517539674that's awful

>>517560141Sure, but a 10 in Charisma seems to be a bit much for a gravelly-voiced dude who speaks in nothing but symbols.

>>517560096Lanius has never commanded a military operation the size of the Legion, he knows the stakes. He does not give a shit about the Courier, he gives a shit about the state of the Legion's forces (despite what Caesar claims to say) and possesses enough wisdom to know that commanding a last ditch attempt to break the enemy lines is foolish when most of his forces have been overrun. Lanius is an orator himself but despises shit like what Vulpes does. Even Lanius himself was hesitant in expanding westward so quickly IIRCWhat would be out of character would be something like Lanius taking off his helmet when speaking to you giving you special privileges within Legion ranks when you join them.

>>517551315underrated post

>>517560881Probably augments, I don't know.

>>517560881He was a high ranking frumentarius or whatever the fuck they're called so he should have a way with words.

>>517560096Or he's just fake shit and tries to bail from the fight or maybe it's just there for the sake of "diplomatic" solution in case someone doing pacifist run. I bet people would complain if it was just straight up fight instead of classic fallout "lets have a talk with a main evil guy". Actually Fallout 2 didn't have that, well never mind then.I don't think anyone from Obsidian ever commented on him. Usually Sawyer writes a fucking book about some generic NPC. It's probably one of those mysterious finales, like in Sopranos where you left to figure out shit for yourself. Fucking lazy if you ask me.

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>>517552469>what is BlizHuh?

Holla Forums is so filled with virgins trying to outbait each other with outrageous takes that everything becomes pure cringe when you think about it for more than 2 seconds.

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>>517560881All black men have 10 charisma, it's not about what they say, everyone speaking to black men is just fantasizing about their big black cock, specially white men.

>>517562089wow what amazing insight

>>517561559The game gives you some tidbits of information (unreliable or otherwise) about the new Legate. IIRC, Lanius was the one that actually devises the plan about attacking the NCR in two separate fronts in the upcoming battle to overwhelm them quickly and to cut off reinforcing their lines. Hanlon even confesses that Lanius would be an even more dangerous foe than Graham and that the NCR leaders are underestimating him.

>>517539413Not him, but I do push-ups and pull-ups at home semi-regularly and I don't gorge myself on food. I'm still more fit than 90% of normies. Why bother going to the gym if I look fine as is?

>>517559002>it's ironic that they're meant to be the smartest faction with the most technology descended from scientists who have done nothing but spend the past few hundred years focusing on science.The institute was basically the Big MT Scientists, but played completely straight-faced and with absolute no self-awareness.

>>517563339Well you definitely won't see gigantic TV monitors masturbate while watching you breathe in the Institute.

>>517559807>design a fail-safe chip that wipes their memory>instead of implementing into that fail-safe chip their deactivation code

>>517558615

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>fallout has always had clunky robots and large, unwieldy computers>fuck it, Blade Runner synthetic flesh transhumanism

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>>517539318Why does this surprise people? Bethesda LITERALLY had a single game with good writing and that was due to one of the writers being a key developer on it. Which may have resulted in other game-related problems, but writing was better for it.

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>>517564817Morrowind is not as good as everyone says it is and the writing is not deep nor complex just because it says "you are the nervearine... or mayybeee you're not! :O"

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>>517564921Personally I'd say Morrowind has the worst writing of the modern Bethesda titles, purely due to how absolutely soulless the dialogue is

>>517564260That would be a more plausible explanation for the retarded Legendary guns.

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>>517539674I liked the one where you find his override code. The other choices are pretty shit

this alone makes me not want star field

>>517557551It was a downgrade from NV's ammo types and uniques. 4 had a shit weapon selection and stupid magic effects. the only improvement was in the animations.

>>517551015patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish LEON WOULD FUCK MY SISTER

>>517569756NV's ammo was pointless and convoluted.No way to know what an enemies DR is or if a -.80 DR modifyer is worthwhile to use against them. I always use regular ammo in NV and do just fine

>>517569756Todd is just noguns retard. Nothing can be helped.

>>517539413Based, Obsidian lards seething.

>>51754164676 is better than Outer Worlds though.

>>517542680>kysHuh?

>>517552596Pretty sure that's a perk, at least in NV.

>>517574215cope

>>517553237A shame they patched that out.

>>517557209>>517559002THose synths are infiltration units. They never said they want to replace everyone, just few people to observe the wasteland. The Institute only uses gen 2 synths for labour.