How the fuck is this piece of shit not in prison?

How the fuck is this piece of shit not in prison?

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>>396065896Because he is a democrat

because a professional actor can reasonably expect that the prop person did not hand them a firearm loaded with live ammunition

>>396065896based sigma male

>>396066011fpbpaka he's cia

>>396066011CHECKEDand a pedophile

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>>396065896didnt he shot a hohol? that guy is based

>>396066068>based sigma male

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Someone gave him the ol' spicy gun. Why would someone give Baldwin the ol' spicy gun?

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>>396065896Because nothing of value was lost. Some commie prop dyke got what she deserved

How based do you have to be to shoot 2 people with 1 bullet.

He is very based, shoot first

>>396066011Got to love the partisan retarded

>>396066045"Oopsie" is never an excuse for shooting someone.

>>396065896As much as I hate this faggot and actually hope he was in prison, you can't really blame him for what happened, because someone else failed to do their job properly, that is, the person who was paid to make sure the gun was safe to use for a movie film. Which basically means, even if you believe he is a villain, there is no way to legally charge him for crime that was committed. Also he is rich. Rich people don't go to prison unless they want to.

>>396068029Demosharts brought us here. You faggots shat in this bed, now lay in it.

>>396068172>you can't really blame him for what happenedYes I can, and anyone who isn't as connected as he is would already be in prison.

>>396065896He mocked trump on SNL. He did his service for the country.

>>396065896Back in the day I was taught all guns are loaded.

>>396066045>the prop person did not hand themI thought that was half the problem, that the gunsmith didn't hand him the gunthe other half is him not CHECKING HIMSELF

>>396066855>>396066011W E WEW

>>396066045>prop personLOL it was a woman you faggot. Also that was not the prop master. Someone else is in charge of firearms (this time it was a woman LOL). You Jews are hilarious.

>>396068306Ok, you are technically correct, you CAN still blame him, but he'll never see a day in jail, regardless.

>>396068172>As much as I hate this faggot and actually hope he was in prison, you can't really blame himWhy not? Because under our standards he's innocent? Fuck him, if I made the same mistake I would be prosecuted under their standards and get life in jail for hate murdering a lesbian or something. He scum and anti-freedom so whatever it takes to throw him in jail so he'll leave me alone, fine.

>>396068172a prop gun and real gun weigh very different weights. plenty of blame for that faggot.

All an act.

>>396065896Cause he's Hollywood leftist dude will probably repent at the next bohemian grove meetup

>>396068172/thread. Also based response on his part

>>396068575>>396068564In the eyes of the law, he did nothing wrong.

>>396065896I bet somebody did hand him a hot gone. This is the type of shit commies do.

It was a job. He was told to kill her

>>396065896Freemasonry in police. Their oaths are the linchpin of corruption in our society youtu.be/E_uz37x_dgY

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>>396068306Sorry, its the first rule of firearms, treat them as if they are loaded at all times. He did not, and that is the only reason why it happened. And if you do not know this rule, you are free to handle firearms, but you are also responsible for failing to follow the long established basic safety rules of handling firearms.

>>396067368I understood and appreciate.

>>396068135You might be missing his point. Who the fuck has a loaded gun on a movie set, and why would they hand it to an actor as a prop gun?? Gun safety plays no role here because nobody could reasonably expect there to be a gun present.

>>396065896He's plugged in with the right people

>>396068694Exactly. Intent isn't the issue, negligence is. He's negligent because he's connected and comfy.

>>396066045Seems forcefully, still I wonder if he would have been more cautious if he had to point it at himself

>>396065896I stand behind Alec Baldwin.'Cause I sure as hell ain't gonna stand in front of him!!

>>396067368To give him plausible deniability for his demonic sacrifice youtu.be/HtI76bH8xy4

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So nobody is getting charged for anything. One person murdered and they just shrug their shoulders?

>>396066855Is that... canteen boy?>dabbssweatfrombrow.jpg

>>396065896Fake quote

>>396068498No. most prop masters discourage this. Actors/extras are not allowed to do anything with a firearm except what the director wants. No cycling mechanisms, checking ammo etc.

Why not put him on trial so the jury can make the final and well-informed decision? I'd seriously like it to go to a jury trial so all the facts can come out. I don't even pick a side, I just trust a random jury of peers.

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pop culture is very important in Corporatocracies, that's why their members are very protected by the ruling elite. Kinda like what happened with Jimmy Saville.

>>396068822lol, come on man, its literally the first rule of handling a firearm, it doesnt matter if you are in house, with a mouse, on the train, or in the rain

>>396068575Not always. If they are meant to fire blanks they will be the real thing if they are used in a close-up. Extras get the dummies if they are in the background.

>>396065896Don't worry, the professional idiots are on the case.

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>>396068694You could do this on a movie set but it will greatly limit how you could set up a fight scene. Imagine the movie 'Heat' or 'Scarface' made by that rule.

>>396065896Because he is a FREEMASON like all celebs

>>396069189Oi Jimmy, you got your hammer m8

>>396068172This is the only accurate take. So many obnoxious 80 IQ faggots on this board now it’s insane.

>>396069156bullshit.

>>396066855That skits a lot darker now that I'm older.

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>>396069215He had no reason to suspect he was actually holding a real firearm is the thing

>>396068688Why though? His acting career is ruined. Like he was A-list as far as mainstream TDS is concerned

>>396065896He'd shoot the prison

>>396066045Basic gun safety best practices aren't needed by Hollywood actors as this case clearly proves.

>>396069571Not sure if that’s the point. Isn’t the saying about known what’s in the barrel? If not why not clear a misfire on an empty magazine

>>396065896Based from Alec "Blanks? No Thanks" Baldwin.

>>396068498I don't like this dick either, but the prop person involved with the fire arm is responsible. What good is it for a prop firearm handler to hand a gun to an actor so the actor can unload it and disassemble the prop ammunition to insure they aren't live rounds if the actor actually knew wtf he was he even looking at.

>>396069497Being friends with the District Attorney pays off

>>396070221It was literally in his hand. If you fail to identify a weapon in your hand that's on you.

>>396068306>he doesn't have connectionssuck my dick slave, sorry your family never ruled anything.

>>396065896>How the fuck is this piece of shit not in prison?Trump lost weight?

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>Anti gun faggot has no respect for fire arms>Scorns firearm safety on the set of a film glorifying gun violence>Murders someoneGet fuckedIf you think Baldwin is dangerous, then go neutralize him. Stop being faggots and shut up about it otherwise

>>396070557>What good is it for a prop firearm handler to hand a gun to an actor so the actor can unload it and disassemble the prop ammunition to insure they aren't live rounds if the actor actually knew wtf he was he even looking at.multiple opportunities to catch mistakes?or is a human life not worth 40 extra seconds on-set?

>>396065896Because he has money and power. You should work on attaining the same instead of whining like a bitch on the internet about how life isn’t fair.

>>396065896how does a loaded real gun get on a movie set. hasn't this shit but super controlled for decades?

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>>396069156yeah no, i always clear the prop piece they give me. but i get cast for 'special ability: service/fire arms experience' and clearing my own is part of my personal piece of mind to do the job.

You guys are as retarded and gullible as baby boomers on Facebook I swear to fucking God

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>>396066045If you and me both got a license to film somewhere and I shot you in the face I'd be in jail right now no matter what excuses. It's the same when Tyrone fucks up and shoots his fellow nigra straight between the eyes while filming a rap video, and yes it's happened many times.

>>396070221this kind of mindset is why the left tries to take your guns, because they know they themselves can not be trusted to handle dangerous things. They still desire ultimate power tho.

>>396070823If a skydive trainer packs a chute for a novice that knows dick about skydiving, does the novice unpack the chute and know if it was packed right then repack it himself?

>>396069952Not at all. Depending on who you are (actor. stunt or extra) and where you are in the scene you get a fake gun made of resin or a 'real gun'. Real guns can be either stock firearms or modified to accept either standard or movie blanks. The blank guns will not accept live ammo. Others are designed to use a gas mixture and have an igniter. Either way no one wants anyone playing with the guns on set. You handle them as little as possible.Also. the muzzle flash you get from live ammo and standard blanks is shorter than the frame ratio of film and digital. Because of this you can not reliably record their flash. Hence the use of special movie blanks in modified guns.

>>396068172>hurr because he has plausible deniability he can't have premeditated it or been an agent of the murder

>>396070221They mostly use real guns in Hollywood though, don’t they? Blanks don’t magically turn them into plastic toys.

>>3960681721. There are emails from the arms master to Alec baldwin(in his role as producer of the movie the accident happened on) saying she needed to go over gun safety with the entire crew. These emails were ignored2. The arms master was not on set that day, as there was not supposed to be a scene using a gun scheduled. The director decided to do a different scene, and the producer/actor(same person, alec baldwin) had no issue. The gun was taken from her desk to be used in the scene at the order of baldwin and the director3. Baldwin, personally, did not follow gun safety.

>>396070453Keyword being 'always'.

>>396068029Only democrats are allowed to be partisan

>>396065896If I was the husband of that bitch he shot i would have sniped him already. But everyone in Hollywood is a cucked pussy ass faggot that cares more about clout than doing what's right.

>>396070557Wrong. If you try to follow these basic gun safety rules then even if you mess up on one then you still won't end up with an unwanted homicide. Where was the safety redundancy in case the prop person fucked up? The shooter is AWLAYS responsible.

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>>396070865I was always an extra. When I had one it was usually resin but as you get closer to the camera they were real. i was always told to leave them alone and I never heard anyone being told otherwise.

>>396068172If OP’s pic is real and he really did shoot at them as a joke and not because he was told to then, yes, he definitely should be in jail right now.

>>396071134The guns that fire movie blanks have been (usually) modified to fire only that type of blank and will not chamber standard rounds. In addition to having a different flash they have no wadding or similar to exit the barrel with the flash.

>>396065896How can he not know it's real from 1 shot? They weren't even using blanks. The gun should have done nothing. Why did he not check to see if it's loaded? Why did he aim it at another human? Why did he have his finger on the trigger? This is murder plain and simple.Proper accidents land people in jail all the time and in those accidents it's a dropped gun that wasn't intentionally aimed at someone. this guy is a piece of shit, being naive as fuck about guns is not an excuse for anyone else, it shouldn't be for him either. Would anyone be making excuses if he had no training on a fork lift and ran people over with it, then got shocked that it was a real heavy forklift? Of course not. His lack of training just makes him more of a liability, but he's also a reckless fool. If he doesn't go to jail for a long time for this then US law is a fucking joke.

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>>396071340Again, try to imagine 'Scarface ' being made by those rules. A movie set is a jobsite and has different rules than real life. Contracts spell out the hazards involved. No one forced anyone to be on a movie set where guns were going to be 'brandished'.

>>396071908The law doesn't change for a movie set. They shouldn't even be using real guns. If you hold a real gun and shoot someone, you are responsible. It's really that simple.

>>396065896That text isn't true. They weren't filming anything, it was a dress rehearsal.

>>396071908Did anyone get murdered for real in Scarface? That's an older movie too. Many modern movies have shooting scenes with fake guns and nobody can tell the difference.

>>396066045Ive worked in the film industry. The guns are supposed to be collected by the armorer between every take. I haven't gotten much work so if I know this alec knows this . He was also the producer so he's still responsible. Too many things went wrong for this to be an accident. He probably hired the armorer because he knew she was retarded and just thot around the set

>>396072107There are indeed different laws for different workplaces. Closed sets are workplaces limited to people who have signed contracts dealing with liability issues. Everybody there was a grownup and knew there were risks.

>>396072471You don't know how the word 'takes' is used in the business.

>>396072368Certainly. With modern CGI there is little reason to have real guns on set. In addition to the risks of using blanks in enclosed areas you have the issue of noise and smoke.

>>396072524Damn, I'd hate to work somewhere where I can legally be shot to death.

>>396071908I’m not following you. On one hand you say always treat a gun as loaded and capable of destroying what ever it covers. And on the other you suggest that Heat or Scarface would be lessened by that rule.

>>396072916I would hate to work anywhere I could be legally killed. Oh wait! Tens of thousands of Americans are killed on the job in the U.S. every year. What's the big deal about a couple more?

>>396073111I am not the guy posting the 4 rules. I was referring to his post. IRL I agree with the 4 rules wholeheartedly.

>>396068917Underrated

>>396073158Tell me about these tens of thousands of Americans who signed contracts and are legally shot to death every year. Are they soldiers?

>>396073276Are you talking out both sides of your mouth? Does Alec have any culpability?

>>396073415What's being shot got to do with this? Dead is dead. Being an extra was a hobby with me and I never saw anyone killed on a set by any means. In my real life job I saw three people killed and knew of others. No one went to prison.

>>396073675As an actor no. As a producer maybe.

>>396068498The actors are not even allowed to do that afaik, they can ask the prop master to check it again in front of them and that's it.

>>396068647>Show me the man and I'll show you the crime. Cool, I don't give a shit. If we can get him locked why wouldn't we?

>be incompetent woman (but I repeat myself)>get other woman killed>this is Man fault!!1

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>>396066045You know that its illegal to shit blanks at people without their permission

>>396067368Because they knew he liked shooting blanks at people like an asshole

>>396074454That would be covered in the contract they signed in order to be on that closed set.

>>396070731Hang yourself disgusting traitor faggot animal.

>>396065896its almost like this is fake newsseriously, do any of you chuds even check politifact or other registered fact checker before you post?its embarrassing

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>>396065896he's a mason,ez pass for everything

>>396066045It's totally against any regulation to aim a gun, loaded or not, fake or not, at another person on set. Or do you actually believe your favorite actors are really shooting each other in your capeshit fantasies?

>>396074585A contract that violates OSHA regulations is invalid and most likely illegal.Why is /pol extra retarded today?

>>396074883Kill yourself faggot

>>396075096That is not true.Neither SAG nor DGA prohibit gun pointing at actors. Happens all the time but usually they are cast replicas. There are no rules against live guns on set just live ammo. Both SAG & DGA prohibit this.

>>396075285What OSHA regulation would that be? If two actors and the director agree to gun pointing they are free to do so. These people are all adults in an adult workplace.

>>396066045My uncle is an ex-cop who worked security on a number of movie productions before he retired a few years ago. He told me that the Baldwin shooting was pure bullshit, that protocol on every film he worked was sure, there's an armorer who's responsible for the guns, but every actor who has to handle a gun in any scene must be given full firearms safety training. No fucking around with guns, EVER. No joking, no mock firing, keep your fucking finger off the trigger and always, always, always, check and double check the gun issued to you yourself before you play the scene.Baldwin is full of shit. He murdered a woman and we should be asking, is there more to this than just a stupid, egotistical shithead recklessly fucking around? Is there?

>>396065896Why would the elite throwaway their senior entertainer?

>>396066011A far left Democrat, and a friend of Epstein. Same reasons why everyone who accused Kevin Spacey of sexual assault has DIED. Literally they are all, all four of them, DEAD. And he won't get arrested either, despite his creepy YouTube videos where he is clearly making threats to persons unknown that he will spill everything if they move against him. And he would've. No doubt. Two peas in a pod, Baldwin and Spacey.

>>396066045It was his production, he was partly in charge of overseeing that safety protocols were upheld

>>396066855I actually want to throw up now. Why did you have to remind me of that?

>>396065896>How the fuck is this piece of shit not in prison?Because laws don't exist for rich or famous people

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>>396065896I bet she saw him molesting some orphans or something

>>396075781You might want to watch a few movies with gunfight scenes. Your 'uncle' probably never worked on a set with gunplay. Lots of fingers on triggers and lots of pointing at actors. Not hard to find. A good one is 'Grosse Point Blank'. All the handguns are non=firing replicas.

>>396066855Did he ever go to Epsteins Island?

>>396065896i don't care about his politics or how many blue haired girls he kills, he was in Hunt for Red October and that movie owns.we don't even put pedos to death in this country and your worried about this guy lol. mcfucking kill yourself

>>396071144Oddly, 11-44 is California police radio code for, "call the coroner, we have a dead body."And you are correct on all three points. Usually I'd go full Holla Forums and remind everyone that the armorer was an immature tattooed twat, but fact is, though she may be that, she is also the daughter of one of the best armorers in the business and probably does know her shit. She is likely a fall guy here. I hate to say it but yeah. Taking that thought one step further, was she hired because she is dumb and unprofessional-looking and lacks decades of experience, so it would be *easier* to blame her for this incident and get Baldwin off the hook? With an older, experienced, male armorer, it would've looked a lot less believable trying to assign culpability to him.

>>396076301Yeah but did you see how they pointed torpedoes at people in that movie? Very irresponsible.

>>396076107To refine what I said, keep your finger off the trigger when you are not shooting a scene. Of course actors playing scenes will point and will shoot, but I asked him again as he was off to bed just now, and on the films he worked (some of which did have scenes with gunfire, yes) actors were supposed to personally clear their guns before the scene, a last check basically. And the armorer was supposed to be present, etc. It has been 20+ years so don't grill him on the details (he also has memory issues, he's an old guy.) But I think he's likely spot on, even if I'm not transferring his words perfectly to my posts. He was a swat team leader for years and as a marksman, definitely knew his shit. I've gone shooting with him in years past. I'll ask him tomorrow if any of the sets he worked used fake guns. I don't think the Seagal flicks he worked on did.

>>396065896He's politically connected like Harvey Weinstein. If he gets shitcanned it makes people connected him look bad, so they're trying to let him squeak through like Juicy Smollet.

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>>396065896If someone died, he needs to be prosecuted for manslaughter. He didnt check the gun chamber to see if it contained live ammo. He had the gun in his hand and he pulled the trigger. He didnt check the gun chamber.Anyone else would be prosecuted.Ergo, there is no justice.

>>396077464At the very least it's negligent homicide. He and he alone is responsible for that weapon when it's in his hands.

>>396065896Guns don't kill people, alec baldwin kills people

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>>396070752kek i didnt realize keanu was based like that

>>396066045Did they ever come up with an explanation of how the fuck real ammo got on stage?

>>396071144Oh, of that's true then easy negligent manslaughter.

>>396065896What a banger joke, Alex.

>>396068172who the fuck takes bullets onto a set where guns are being used in a scene for a film? you just wouldnt do it.

>>396078180ya i just dont get it, indeed I thought any gun they used would have simply been a replica? even blanks can cause injury, this shit seems insane.

>>396077808Yeah, the retard armorer didn’t know shit about fuck about gun safety and proper procedure and they were shooting live rounds in the desert in between takes.

>>396078436obviously the folks that were killed had vids or pics or audio of someone doing something very sketchy

>>396077128juicy went to jail didnt he?

>>396066011not just a democrat but a full-fledged above and beyond dedicated corporate propagandist.

>>396078606>shooting live rounds in the desert in between takes

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>>396068866Guns are inherently dangerous instruments, for something like this negligence becomes recklessness because he knew that he needs to treat guns with a greater level of care than other objects.

>>396068822Bull.Always assume any gun is loaded.

>>396070221It was always a real gun, prop guns that can fire blanks do exist but cameras are so good now and enough of the audience is well informed that Hollywood uses real guns loaded with blanks since it's obvious when the gun is a prop gun.

>>396065896>How the fuck is this piece of shit not in prison?He's rich.

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>>396068692>getting out of a speeding ticket once in a while = widespread corruption that Needs to be fixedThats literally all freemasonry does when in the police force. but yeah no cop is gonna give you free reign to blow 120 every day all day simply because ur a freemason. You do it once, they'll give you a break and say Dont do that shit again, man. And if ur an 18 year old freemason and you do this shit, they'll just call ur mom and daddy over this shit and get ur ass chewed out by them.Do that shit again though and your ass is grass and you're getting a ticket/an arrest for wreckless driving. There are no real free lunches with freemasonry. You cant commit murder and go "yep im walking free for this because I got muh club". Cus said club doesnt condone that shit and said officers are forced to arrest you anyway or else public outcry will occur and then their jobs are in jeopardy and an investigation from the FBI may occur. Go kill yourself you fucking schizo.Actually no ur not a schizo, ur a chink.

>>396069497To be fair he is probably going over the moment in his head over and over again constantly rewriting the events as they happened. 100% cannot be trusted of course

>>396066045I generally agree with you there, except that his production company hired the master at arms or whatever they call themselves.

>>396065896Oh, also, is this fucking movie ever coming out?

>>396066045

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>>396065896Pedophile union.

>>396068172> jokes around with a gun> kills someone> I thought it was le prop!!! xddddd

>>396066045>the prop personso you damn well know it was a fucking bitchalso a grown ass fucking man ALWAYS checks his fucking gunbut this piece of shit never was a man

>>396065896It was clearly an accident and he's 100% innocent.Sent from my iPad

>>396070557>like this dick either, but the prop person involved with the fire arm is responsible. WhatThat person wasn't on set, because no scenes with guns were supposed to be shot. This was changed last minute by the producer (Baldwin) who did not call in the armourer. He is therefore responsible regardless of other factors.

>>396079906they cancelled it

>>396067469Only old fags will remember.

>>396066045well Im certainly no expert, but I seem to recall being trained to treat all guns as if they are loaded until I, personally, have made sure they are not loaded. "remove the food, check the mouth".three simple rules(1) always assume the gun is loaded(2) never point the gun at someone you dont intend to kill (3) dont touch the trigger, unless you want to fire the gunin the very least its manslaughter, he accidently killed someone. Alec is a leftwing hollywood loser, but in this circumstance I feel bad for him. I would be extremely doubtful he intended to kill someone. and perhaps his jury will see it that way too. perhaps he will get a suspended sentence. but he is guilty of manslaughter (by his negligence a death was caused), and there really is no two ways about that.

>>396080666Thanks satan.Wonder why. People die making movies all the time.

>>396067469No one died from that. No charges were pressed iirc.Probably settled out of court? It's been so long.

>>396065896he has lots of money.

>>396080666>666>>396080777>777

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>>396077974u wish, he isnt even being charged

>>396068172>you can't blame him for taking a real gun pointing it at a real person and pulling the trigger>"such a random unthinkable tragedy">"it was someone else's job to check it, not his problem">"following gun safety? lol imagine thinking an actor(who just shot and killed someone) should have had to do that dumbfuck"and now it's your job to shill for him online huh? he also apparently supports gun control btw. hilarious stuff.

>>396066045*producerHe's liable for all the plebs actions, and his own of course

>>396065896Because, get this: he's rich and famous. Shitzville, New Mexico prosecutors are no match for his high-powered Jew York lawyers. They'll do a plea deal where he pleads guilty to a misdemeanor and has to pay a fine.

>>396067368>>396068775Where's this from?

>>396078663eventually yeah, his sentencing was pretty funny. He thought he was going to walk, but they were under enough pressure they sent him to trial.39:39 timeyoutu.be/qElV2JcePiA?t=2379

>>396083717isn't he already out pending appeal?

>the daily mail>twitterWhy aren't you in prison?

>>396083984idk i didn't really keep track of it after that. He got a 120 sentence, everyone was suprised he was punished at all. The courts there are so corrupt, and he's connected to the Obama's. They don't want him sentenced because it makes everyone he's connected to look bad. Also, it's a high profile racial lynching hoax, those optics are terrible. They just wanted to quietly admit he lied, and have him disappear from the media for a while.

>>396080842He got the guy who he shot to apologise for being shot, not even making it up.

>>396084123*120 day sentence

>>396068379>He mocked trump on SNL. He did his service for the country.The Trump Curse is a bitch

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>>396070731No that's Alec baldwin

>>396066045Good bait, user

>>396082838new.txt

>>396084507I've spent hours on Holla Forums every day for 7 years. How many hours daily and years have you spent on Holla Forums?

>>396065896Plausible deniability.

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>>396079363he's right and you're retarded and would be better off on reddit.

>>396071340>all gunseven squirt guns? Because that's basically what Baldwin thought he had: a fake gun.

Could at least somebody go to fucking jail over it? At the very least Baldwin deserves to lose all the civil suits he's facing. He's a piece of shit for running a film set the way he did, he's responsible as co-producer for the conditions there, and he's responsible for hiring a stupid cunt as an armorer. Plus he should have checked the gun himself. Useless motherfucker. He should be broke on the street sucking dicks for pocket change for the rest of his life.

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>>396080777You showed him up.