He’s fucked isn’t he?

Let’s be honest, people have fought wars for less than he did.

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>>257126108Nothing will happen even if he did something. It would be for the best.

>>257126108Run down what he did please. I haven't followed this whole Flynn thing

>>257126108They need to bring back city square public executions regardless of what happens with this.

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>>257126577Obama's wife Michelle has a BBC and Flynn thinks that's weird.

you gotta actually be schizophrenic to believe obama is going to prison

>>257126811well you’re in luck because i am

what did he even do you fags wont speak about it like your little club will not let us newfags who jus want to learn in.

>>257126577Obama ordered his holdover officials in the intelligence and justice departments to fabricate a crime against Michael Flynn in order to try and bring down Trump after he was gone. As the infamous quote goes, 'First we fuck Flynn, then we fuck Trump.'

>>257126986Can they pin it on Obama though?

no hes just gonna say>i-if-if-i-i-if-if-if-if you think.....someone is......a russian asset......you investigate themand you cant prove that they didnt all think it

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>>257126108People are probably going to jail but it won't be Obama. It won't be Hillary. It won't be Clapper, Brennan, etc. It will be some no-name scapegoat who was probably middle management at one of the agencies.

>>257126976he very obviously spied on trump purely for political reasons but its not actually provable so nothing will happen and the country will become more polarized

>>257127064It's not a question of whether they can; even the slightest piece of declassification sunlight shows his fingerprints all over Crossfire Hurricane. It's a question of whether they will. We have never prosecuted a former president for a crime committed in office before. It will be a constitutional crisis when it goes down.

>>257126108No ones going to prison. You retards are just falling for the bait meant distract from covid-19.

>>257127064Obama, and his typical arrogance pinned himself when he ordered them to report directly to him. Strozk and Page BOTH said in two tweets “POTUS wants to know everything” and “The White House is running this”

Obama ain’t dun nuthin

>>257127300I don’t know if Obama will go to prison. But everybody around him well. And when a few of them do, I want you to personally instruct your mother to suck my dick

>>257127231whats the crime genious

>>257127485and come the time when Trump leaves office and no one is in prison yet I'll still be here laughing my ass off at you idiots. even as dirty as Obama is they won't do shit.

This is why obama was out of the country so much, shopping places safe from extradition.

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>>257126108>>257126484>>257126577>>257126915>>257126976>>257126986>>257127090>>257127146>>257127223>>257127231all fake newsflynn was released with a politically biased and clearly fabricated sliver of "counter-evidence", when the actual evidence against him and Trump's son's are enormous, sound and unquestionable, if anyone is going to jail it's Barr for an absolutely banana-republic tier show of partisanshipeven worse STOP trying to inflate this NOW as something big against Obama when it's clear to anyone that's not a QTARD MOUTHBREATHING TURDGARGLING SCHIZO that this is just another misdirection maneuver from the republican party playing to its absolutely retarded and despicable base in a poor attempt to try and cover up Trump's crimes and protect him from the absolute debacle that will come november, one that will hopefully be the last nail in the coffin of republiturds influence in american politics, once and for all>>257126811this

>>257127570unlawful surveillance (of the trump campaign through knowingly illegitimate warrants) and sedition (directing his officials to fabricate crimes in order to cripple and/or overthrow the incoming administration in order to cover up the earlier spying). But I expect you're not smart enough to understand that if you can't even spell 'genius' correctly.

>>257127974>ShizoStopped reading.

>>257128114as a schizo would, schizogo dump schizo copypastas on another thread and talk to your imaginary friends

>>257127974shills mad

>>257126108>He’s fucked isn’t he?Yup, and the only defense the left has is to not talk about it or cry racism.

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>>257128207Nobody who has ever replied schizo has anything of value to say so I see that buzzword and I instantly know you're a tard. Have my last (you), I hope the little shot of dopamine does the trick.

>>257127974>flynn was released with a politically biased and clearly fabricated sliver of "counter-evidence", when the actual evidence against him and Trump's son's are enormouswhat?why didnt they just prosecute them?>>257127992>unlawful surveillancegonna have to do better than this whats the statute whats the punishmenthas it ever been used everprove that they didnt think the evidence was legitimate>seditionoh come the fuck on. your opinion isnt a crime

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>>257127974>flynn was released with a politically biased and clearly fabricated sliver of "counter-evidence"breitbart.com/radio/2020/05/08/tom-fitton-michael-flynn-got-justice-because-he-had-lawyers-willing-to-push-back-against-doj-fbi/https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/05/07/barr-fbi-decided-to-lay-a-perjury-trap-for-gen-flynn/>Barr later addressed Flynn’s guilty plea by stating, “Well, you know, people sometimes plead to things that turn out not to be crimes. … And the Department of Justice is not persuaded that this was material to any legitimate counterintelligence investigation. So, it was not a crime.”breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/07/michael-flynn-prosecutor-quits-case/>Furthermore, text messages released last week reveal that the FBI had found no evidence of any wrongdoing by Flynn. On Jan. 4, 2017, the FBI drafted a memo to close the case — until agent Peter Strzok intervened, saying that senior leadership wanted the investigation to remain open.>The next day, Jan. 5, then-FBI Director James Comey met with President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, and other senior officials in the White House. Comey was told to brief President-elect Donald Trump the next day (Jan. 6) about the contents of the false “Steele dossier,” which was then leaked to the media.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/07/jerry-nadler-rages-outrageous-that-doj-dropped-flynn-case/The Department said it had concluded that Flynn’s interview by the FBI was “untethered to, and unjustified by, the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Flynn” and that the interview was “conducted without any legitimate investigative basis.”

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>>257128478You're probably being retarded on purpose to bait, but I'll humor you for the sake of anybody else watching. The FISA court they got the secret warrants from is usually a rubber stamp court, which is another topic in and of itself, but even they have a bare minimum of effort they require people to go through to legally get a warrant, called the Woods Procedure. In layman's terms, it means that any item that is submitted as evidence to the FISA court needs to be 100% fact-checked and can have it's authenticity vouched for all the way to the top of the FBI, or you have to withdraw the request for a warrant. We know for a fact that the FISA warrants they submitted to spy on the Trump campaign were all based on the Steele dossier, which was verifiable bullshit from the word 'go'. They knew the evidence for the warrant was bullshit - we have the documentation they thought it was bullshit. They used it anyways, and because the FISA court is a rubber stamp, they still got it, and could then spy on the entire campaign thanks to 2-hop wiretapping. And thanks to the text messages from Lisa Page and Peter Stzrok, we know that the White House was kept in the loop at all times, and that Obama wanted to know the results of everything they found.

>>257128249>shills madThey're all gonna do flips before this is over.

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>>257129393>The FISA court they got the secret warrants from is usually a rubber stamp court, which is another topic in and of itself, but even they have a bare minimum of effort they require people to go through to legally get a warrant, called the Woods Procedure. In layman's terms, it means that any item that is submitted as evidence to the FISA court needs to be 100% fact-checked and can have it's authenticity vouched for all the way to the top of the FBI, or you have to withdraw the request for a warrant.

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>>257127485Only people going to jail are trump employees.You q people are retarded as fuck.

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>>257127974fucking brazilian mutt retard, get back to shooting each other in the favelas. i didn’t even read your post on my country’s politics after seeing your flag

>>257129393so at worst they need to scapegoat some low level piece of shit for "fact-checking" the document incorrectlyand the rest of them will just keep going with the same retarded narrative that has not made any fucking sense ever but nobody seems to care

>>257129721>Only people going to jail are trump employees.Prepare your anus for Roger Stone getting pardoned.

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>>257129556oh awesome we have an example of what happens to people that fake fisa evidence. what happened the other 29 times? what were the criminal punishments here in particular? that could give us a good idea of what will happen to these obama folks......

>S2381>Official Titles as Introduced>A bill to require review by the Government Accountability Office of screening protocols of the Transportation Security Administration relating to breast milk and formula, and for other purposes.

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Grenell Gives DOJ List Of Obama Officials Involved In Flynn Unmasking Scandal; Waiting On Barr To Release

>>257128478>oh come the fuck on. your opinion isnt a crimeConspiracy is a crime though.Lets hope shareblue didn't keep a record of your employment.

>>257129807Not how it works. By putting his name on it, Comey became legally accountable for everything related to the warrant. Same with every other person who put their name on the dotted line - If I remember correctly the other two were Sally Yates and Rod Rosenstein.>>257130013The IG doesn't actually have the power to prosecute anybody - it's a toothless organization. Because of that report, though, the FISA court was disbanded; Trump threatened a veto against anybody who sent him a bill to reauthorize the courts, and nobody tried to test him on it.

>>257130013>hat were the criminal punishments here in particular?This was the 1st review of the FISA process ever done in the history of FISA warrants, and the report came out just before corona-meme came along to dominate the entire news cycle.It's no coincidence that corona-meme first appeared as soon as it became obvious Trump wasn't going to be found guilty at his impeachment trial.

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It's really time that we have serious discussion on Balkanization of the states before we end up wasting a decade and 2 generations in a civil war.

>>257127300this "bait" has been around for 3 years.

>>257130104>Grenell Gives DOJ List Of Obama Officials Involved In Flynn Unmasking Scandal; Waiting On Barr To Releasebreitbart.com/politics/2020/05/08/michael-flynn-documents-obama-knew-details-call-russian-ambassador/>Then-President Barack Obama was intimately aware of the details of December 2016 intercepted phone calls between President-elect Donald Trump’s incoming National Security Adviser, Michael Flynn, and then-Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak, according to court documents released Thursday.>The former president’s knowledge and role in his administration’s investigations of the Trump campaign have long been an open question. The revelation puts the former president right in the center of the last administration’s efforts to investigate and target Flynn, whom the Justice Department just dropped their case against on Thursday. Obama had appointed Flynn as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency but had fired him in 2014, and he had reportedly warned Trump not to hire Flynn.Documentation is here:scribd.com/document/460363357/Flynn-Motion-to-Dismiss

>>257130057He's referring to law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381, which isn't quite right. It requires you being acting as such on behalf of a foreign power, which (as far as we currently know) does not apply. Sedition does, though.

>>257130657or you rural mouthbreathing retards can all just fuckoff to the pacific northwest and larp all you want while the rest of the country moves forward into the future

>>257127974Just wait til tomorrow, kike.

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>>257127974Your shilling doesn't work here. We're not 80 IQ redditniggers

>>257127300>You retards are just falling for the bait meant distract from covid-19.We can talk about corona-meme if you want.How do you feel about the fact that every case in the United States comes from JFK in NYC?You know, the airport left open to flights from China to stick it to Trump's travel ban because of racism.breitbart.com/health/2020/05/07/report-new-york-city-was-primary-source-of-coronavirus-in-u-s-in-early-march/>New York City’s coronavirus outbreak grew so large by early March that the city became the primary source of new infections in the United States, new research reveals, as thousands of infected people traveled from the city and seeded outbreaks around the country.>The research indicates that a wave of infections swept from New York City through much of the country before the city began setting social distancing limits to stop the growth.>The central role of New York’s outbreak shows that decisions made by state and federal officials — including waiting to impose distancing measures and to limit international flights — helped shape the trajectory of the outbreak and allowed it to grow in the rest of the country.

>>257127974"IT'S OVER!" ....the post.

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>>257130657>a decade of civil warAnon, all that is required is the will for a civil war which we simply do not have. Of the 10 years you suggest, most would simply be spent getting to that point, the conflict itself would be short.If the threat was death, 50K men could sweep across the united states in mere weeks and remove most of the undesirables without much resistance, maybe 3 to 6 months with.One side has guns, training and the guts to spill blood, the other does not. It's about that simple.The question is entirely whether the military would defend liberal strongholds or not, and if they have enough war materiel and morale to sustain themselves for anything but the most nominal of conflicts against their own citizens.

>>257126108Obama is untouchable and above the law and you can do nothing about it.

>>257127974>when the actual evidence against him and Trump's son's are enormous, sound and unquestionableThat no one could produce during a literal impeachment. Yeah right.

>>257131443>Obama is untouchable and above the law and you can do nothing about it.Sauce?

>>257131574

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>>257126108Nothing happens to real criminals in this country.

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>>257127974>STOP trying to inflate this NOWI honestly don't know anymore when people are parodying shills or when they are shills themselves.

>>2571261082384 (sedition) is more applicable.

>>257131713>or when they are shills themselves.On this particular topic, the shills try and link the whole thing to Q.

>>257131027> Brazil Flag> Calls me Mouth BreatherOk, nigger.

>>257131027>Brazil>”moving forward” as in “progress”? Opinion discarded. Balkanization is beginning. Dem shitholes will become city states with no jurisdiction over the vast rural nations surrounding them.

Weird, the deep state is apparently everywhere and constantly trying to remove Trump. But somehow the evil mastermind of the deep state is going to be put in prison by th... oh wait

>>257132029>Balkanization is beginningNo. Dems are losing power and influence across the board.It's to the point where CA democrats are protesting Newsome and Pelosi.

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>>257127974Up yours Chinksect or China-know-it-all, your King is fucked, go drink some s.oy milk you s.oyboy

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>>257126108milk chocolate gay messiah must always be remembered fondly otherwise (((the plan))) !!!!!!m.youtube.com/watch?v=nBdcQVhOuzk

>>257132070>But somehow the evil mastermind of the deep stateObongo is just a figurehead. Soros and the Chicoms run the deep state.

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>>257126108twitter.com/ellars/status/1260007143559712768What is with americans and old white men?

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>>257131311They said the first civil war would be over in 6 months a year at most. You are already making the mistake of underestimating the enemy. Understand Canada and Mexicans would probably be giving material support to them also. Once you take land you have to hold it. Think about how many troops it took to calm Iraq down a nation the size of California. So would you like to reevaluate your brainlet statements?

>>257126108>all this celebration over a tweet about an event we knew about 4 years ago/nupol/ sure love celebrating false victories.

>>257132473>Understand Canada and Mexicans would probably be giving material support to them also

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>>257132505>>all this celebration over a tweet about an event we knew about 4 years ago

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>>257132029>>257131978>>257131713>>257131574>>257131260>>257131169>>257131131>>257129773>>257129251>>257128478>>257128475>>257128249>>257132264all y'all schizos wittingly or unwittingly spreading disinformation and every despicable republican that didn't vote for the impeachment of Trump will burn in the seventh circle of hell for destroying the fabric of the greatest republic that ever blessed God's green Earth and throwing the world into a spiral of chaos... and to imagine it was all for the republican uncontainable thirst for guzzling down of the cum of "leader", nevermind he's an orange imbecile baboon, for a few seats in the supreme court and the opportunity to gerrymander a few more states red... shameful, absolutely shameful, you're now even less democratic than we are

>>257132795>democratic

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>>257132957we've lived to see the day when red-blooded americans started denouncing their own inventions, the republic, democracy, multilateralism, human rights... wow, just wow... how low they have fallen, must be something in the food

>>257126108looks like the magic negro is just a regular negro after all.

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>>257132795The US never was democratic nor was it meant to be. For a very long time only land owning white men had the vote, landless whites were 2nd tier Citizens, everyone else below that. All this "beacon on the hill" and "leader of the free world" came from Wilson who was arguably the cause of all of US Antics post WW1 which lead to the fucked up situation of today.

>>257132473>we will be fighting with single shot muskets and cannons!Yes, today is very muc just like the first civil war! Weaponry now is far more lethal and the types of people on either side are very very different. Any other "brainlet" comparisons you want to make?

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>>257132957>that's literally what happened on Flight 93

>>257127974Hi r/politics

>>257133353>democracy, multilateralism>American inventions(((desperation intensifies)))This is literally you--v>NOOO NOT MY HECKIN OBAMA

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>>257133545>>that's literally what happened on Flight 93Prove it.

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>>257133513The first man portable mortars, armored ships, heavy artillery, repeating rifles and automatic support weapons came out towards the end of that war leading to huge numbers of deaths and giving Previews to WW1 which rolled around soon after.A Civil War will not be short nor one sided and you overestimate the capabilities of Rural Forces against your Urbanite enemies out of propaganda bias. Such a war will be a long, drawn out and bloody affair with no clear sign of who will win... Provided neither side takes over the Dakota silo's and scorch earths the nation, in which case a "win" there makes a loser out of all.

>>257133659the modern world was shaped by FDR and Churchill during WW2 and they are both saints

>>257134167>the modern world was shaped by FDR and Churchill during WW2

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>>257129773That is called a shill my nufag fren.

>>257126108Obama should have confronted the Israel lobby more vigoursly instead of being a lazy Nigger

>>257134167Churchill? Only if you mean by his clucked concessions to the US to cripple their empire. The first thing UK then does is elect a socialist government

>>257133513> Muh Technology Nice cope. You completely ignore my Iraq statement. Fuck out of COD hero. This is a discussion for men not little boys with civil war fantasies.

>>257126108“Uh, Obamagate. It’s been going on for a long time,” he began. “It’s been going on from before I even got elected, and it’s a disgrace that it happened, and if you look at what’s gone on, and if you look at now, all this information that’s being released — and from what I understand, that’s only the beginning — some terrible things happened, and it should never be allowed to happen in our country again.”-Trump when asked what did Obama do... lol fuckin nada burger

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>>257127974>banana>hue flaggo karate dance in traffic with your little dipper flag

>>257133463This>>257133353Any no one cares what your shitskin ass thinks Brazil. Trump was impeached, if any unquestionable evidence existed then it wasn't even presented. The case was weak as hell, more than once based on incomplete conversations where the context mattered a lot, and hearsay at best, from witnesses whose only requirement for admission was that they present a time and place for what they witnessed and it hat to match Trump's actual whereabouts. 100% of the witnesses failed. Some weren't even in the same motherfucking state. youtube.com/watch?v=16QBPNag-yIA lawyer pushing against Trump even admitted that he assumed he was guilty and hoped they could prove it but failed. The leftists pushing it admitted they failed to find anything and had taken it to impeachment on an assumption. I for one, am sick to death of this guilty until proven innocent shit the left has been trying to pull. You shills are the ones promoting false information.

>>257126108Can someone give me the pol rundown of what this nigger actually did and why is Barr in trouble?

>>257134999>lol fuckin nada burgerHope.

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>>257135448>and why is Barr in trouble?He's not.>>257135448>of what this nigger actually didpic related.

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>>257133353>something in the food>literally eats spider monkey soupliterally karate dance your soccer ball into a snake pit

>>257126108Hey OP, luckily for me some other fag gave the context, but maybe you should give some context as to what he did for the others? I've seen like one thread go into detail about Obamagate and eight others saying how dead Obama is.

>>257126811Obama doesn't have to go to prison, he just has to name names. its like picking a rock up and watching the bugs under it scramble

>>257127974>t. Petista and new christian Let me guess your surname is something like carvalho, leitão, pereira or Souza?

>>257132795Keep going I almost have bingo

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>>257132464The over 50, natural born citizen demographic that makes up the overwhelming majority of elected officials in any republic is 75%+ white.But don't worry shitskin, the whole West will be a third world shithole w 80% inept brown kleptocrats trying to genocide whites in a couple generations.

>>257135824I would guess Shekelstein.

everybody here takes this shit way to seriouslythere are 197K people on average on all the boards here25% are here for pornanother 10% for weird cartoon shit I dont really get but power to them20 % are under voting ageanothr 20% are from countries other than the US so how many votes can you swing on $chanthere wasting there 50 ents

>>257135824t. hrabovsky

>>257135891need to add muttposting, that's the hip new trend.

>>257127974>tfw not a single poster believes the shillChrist soros has wasted so much money

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>>257127974It’s like you’re playing 4D chess!

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>>257126108>QAnon bullshit

>>257127974How come fags like this pop out of the woodwork at convenient times, but are never part of the general discussion the rest of the year? Makes you wonder.

>>257126577>>257126986>>257126108i love Flynn obama intel hires turn me off Flynn is army too no fag navy shit

>>257137008>>QAnon bullshit>>257131951>>or when they are shills themselves.>On this particular topic, the shills try and link the whole thing to Q.lololol, called it

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Sheeit, he dindu nuffin, he a gud boi.

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>>257126108Obama plays The Sims?

>>257136856I don't have to convince the lunatic schizoposters of a thing, you're all already blind and radicalized, my moral duty is to the vast majority that simply lurks, to remind them of how things truly are, that nothing posted here should ever be taken seriously let alone believed, that this place is infested by shill operatives from the right and the gullible fucks that fall for it, so they don't drink the koolaid like y'all did.

>>257127992makes sense that the media was pounding on RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA from the moment trump won the election. At this point half of the country deeply and truly believes that Russia won the election for Trump, so if anything they will consider Obama a hero for this

>>257127974It's funny to me that both sides think that this is the end of the other once and for all.

>>257137558>shill operatives from the right

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>>257126108worst president

>>257137639>At this point half of the country deeply and truly believes that Russia won the election for TrumpSauce?

>>257137881the democraps user try and keep up

>>257138238>the democraps user >try and keep upThat's not half the country.

>>257128207Holy shit he's seething lmao

>>257126108He’s fucked in the send that he gets pegged every night by his tranny wife, yes.He’s not going to jail though. All this Flynn stuff will be used to crush Biden and Trump will win re-election.

>>257126108That's why we have Georgia race riots inc. It's why Democrats are extending the lock down for 2 months and continuing to expand Marshall Law. They are preparing for the worst.The real question is what if Obama seeks sanctuary in Portland?

>>257138854This.I hope some voice of reason rises from the D&C narrative currently foisted upon the American people user. Good luck out there and remember to hate the puppet master, not the puppet.

>>257138663>He’s not going to jail though.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/21/report-ag-barr-expands-probe-into-russia-investigation-origin-after-finding-something-significant/https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/ag-barr-expands-controversial-review-origin-russia-investigation-n1068971https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/breaking-doj-officials-us-attorney-john-durham-has-found-something-significant-in-his-deep-state-investigation-and-critics-should-be-careful/https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/24/reports-doj-investigation-of-russia-probe-origins-is-now-criminal-investigation/>>257138854>The real question is what if Obama seeks sanctuary in Portland?Would he have to admit he's an illegal alien?

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>LOL TRUMP IS GOING TO JAIL>LOL OBAMA IS GOING TO JAILNo wonder the jews control the USA.

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>>257139416Don’t get me wrong I wish it would happen but I doubt it. It will tarnish Biden’s reputation though.

>>257126108I feel like Yates flipped with the way she is being reported.

>>257136396sure

>>257133980Yeah those armored ships man. Those man portable automatic weapons. Those urbanites are quite the threat, their 6 months of food per person, their maximum cohesion, their total self sufficiency. Sure bud. >dakota silosretard alert>>257134968I don't play COD or FPS games. I shoot actual guns if thats what I want to do. I own a few black powder replica muskets as well, have you ever shot one? Technology is everything in war and any mismatch in technology leads to total blowouts. A man with night vision sees the man who doesnt, boom dead. A man with a 3x-5x optic sees what the man who relies on irons does not, boom dead. The man with armor can take a chest hit, the man without cannot, boom dead. Every time? Maybe not, but which one would you prefer to be? My bet is you didnt say unarmored musket wielder in the dark.

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